Root Access

CBenni

12:15 AM

so ive encountered a huge problem

my servers inodes are all used up.

what do I do now? lol...

Bob

Your whats are what?

CBenni

i-nodes

those things that map a file to a hard drive location

i have 1.3 mil of them, and have 1.3 mil files and counting

I thought I had WAAAAAAY more than that (I read that I have 4+ billion somewhere)

Bob

???

What on earth gives you the impression that they are "used up"?

CBenni

rootfs 1310720 1310703 17 100% /

Filesystem Inodes IUsed IFree IUse% Mounted on
rootfs 1310720 1310703 17 100% /

thats the output of df -i

Bob

...rootfs

pretty sure that's a ro filesystem

CBenni

12:24 AM

?

Bob

=> serverfault.com/a/186064/174582

but rootfs is a special cookie

Michael Frank

12:51 AM

wow... this D-Link PowerLine is amazing.

Just plugged it in, and it instantly started working!

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

wow. I let my Surface Pro discharge in a drawer (by accident) and now it's telling me it can't install Windows updates until I fully charge the battery

Journeyman Geek

@MichaelFrank yeah. Though changing the network name is a good idea

Michael Frank

@JourneymanGeek I'm not sure how to do that from Linux :P

Journeyman Geek

@MichaelFrank there is a tool for that. Can't really check now. Sitting in a military camp :p

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

@JourneymanGeek what language is the instruction given in?

oyyy chat going down :(

Michael Frank

1:19 AM

What will we do?!!

That Brazilian Guy

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ IIRC android does that as well

> Sitting in a military camp :P

@JourneymanGeek is the new mascot of Singapore's Army!

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

@ThatBrazilianGuy "don't invade here -- we'll make this little dog bark angrily at you"

That Brazilian Guy

> we'll make this little dog ~~bark angrily at you~~ hack all your gadgets and networks

@CanadianLuke Interesting, didn't know that, gotta check

Although I suspect it could be one of those cases where blogs hosted on wp.com have some extra features not included out-of-the-box on the self hosted WP

Like the Twenty Whatever default theme has lazy-loading endless scrolling, but only on the wp.com version

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

@ThatBrazilianGuy he already got it working

That Brazilian Guy

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ Did he? Where does he say that?

Your username makes me feel weird. It's like you're possessed by lovecraftian entities.

Hm, the comments on the blog post about markdown says:

> Will this feature be released as a standalone plugin for self-hosted WP sites?

> Keep an eye on Jetpack. :)

> Care to tell us if it will be in Jetpack a) soon, b) in next few months, c) when hell freezes over? :-)

> We don’t have a firm timeline right now, but stay tuned. In the meantime, there are quite a few Markdown plugins already available.

That is, (quasi)-native support in "6 to 8 weeks".

Bob

1:36 AM

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ pretty standard (and bloody annoying) with many phones and tablets

If I have the damn thing plugged in, it had better install the updates, battery charged or not.

That Brazilian Guy

Yeah, but there's a reason for that. Running out of power in the middle of an upgrade can be... bad.

Wait, it won't upgrade even when plugged in? O_o

Bob

@ThatBrazilianGuy Requires a minimum of 25% charge or something. I've seen up to 50%.

If my phone needs >1hr of battery life to install an update, You're Doing It Wrong (TM)

especially when it's also plugged in!

That Brazilian Guy

Great. For the last 2 hours my modem/router decided to reboot every 15min.

Bob

o.O

That Brazilian Guy

@Bob ditto.

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

1:48 AM

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2299306

Who the fuck thought "you won't stop hiccuping! Let me try sticking my finger up your but for a few minutes" as a treatment

Michael Frank

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ O.O

Also, almost finalised my Guinea Pig cam :D

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

Read the abstract of the article lol

I can't stop hiccuping ahhhhhhh

Michael Frank

I was confused for a second when they said 'digital'.

That Brazilian Guy

Oh, sure. There's probably an app for that.

Apps are the new ~~digital bubble~~ universal answer for everything

Michael Frank

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ Well, if this is the case, then they recommend a digital rectal massage before any pharmacological agents. :P

Bob

1:54 AM

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ well, did it work? :P

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

@Bob no way am I trying that lol

That Brazilian Guy

"Dr. Goldfinger -- Proctologist. Also, Hiccup Exterminator".

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

@MichaelFrank your fingers are your "digits"

Michael Frank

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ Yea, I figured that out after a couple seconds.

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

unfortunately, laughing about that article only made my hiccups worse

termination of intractable hiccups by reading the article about digital rectal massaging is definitely not efficacious

I should publish a paper about it

That Brazilian Guy

1:58 AM

I never got a hiccup from laughing too hard, only brief stomach pain.

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

I don't get hiccups from laughing; it just makes them last longer once I already got them

I must have taken a drink and swallowed too much air or something

Bob

> The new implementation is also more maintainable, with only 4,167 lines of C++ code compared to the previous 81,865 lines of code which had been auto-translated from Java to C.

@_@

blog.mozilla.org/security/2014/04/24/…

Michael Frank

I don't remember when I got hiccups last. But they've never lasted more than a minute or so.

That Brazilian Guy

Is there in the US too (or elsewhere non-brazilian) the common belief that a scare will cure hiccups?

ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ

@Bob whoa, awesome, they talk about graph theory a bit! :D

so I'm not the only one who struggles with graphs. Mozilla does too.

also, wtf @ auto-translating Java to C using an automated tool? wouldn't they even attempt to, you know, clean it up or something after that? that's really ... um... dumb

even though I like Java (and have no qualms with C, either, since it's the grandaddy of all modern runtime environments, so we have to have it) I have never heard of a viable use case for an "automatic Java-to-C translation tool", especially not for production software >_>

probably whatever they were using also had to run a Boehm GC or similar on the buffers... ugh

Journeyman Geek

2:34 AM

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ bite ankles. :p

Michael Frank

2:55 AM

So how do I RDP into Ubuntu with xrdp installed? All I got was a grey X looking screen.

Journeyman Geek

Hm. Got unit swag

Socks... Of all things, a towel and a jacket that may not fit

Michael Frank

Make sure you always have a pair of dry socks. Nothing worse than trenchfoot.

Journeyman Geek

These are those newfangled ankle length ones. Barely large enough for a chew toy :p

also, there's these really cool short throw projectors here

Journeyman Geek

3:32 AM

Oo. They're playing Taylor swift over the PA

Bob

5:17 AM

@JourneymanGeek sound.stackexchange.com/questions/29902/…

Journeyman Geek

5:32 AM

Thats cool

(and home!)

hm, the socks have the word 'terror' on them. They mispelled terrier. That or they ran out of space for the full unit motto.

@Bob: also, most home studio monitors are near field monitors

proper monitors are bigger

Michael Frank

@JourneymanGeek Uhh... Terror? o.O

Journeyman Geek

@MichaelFrank: yeah, its part of our unit motto. It apparently alliterates with tracks, and we're armour.

Michael Frank

@JourneymanGeek TONKA TRACKS OF TERROR?!

Journeyman Geek

lol

I'm not sure how much I'm supposed to talk about the military XD

jacket fits, yay.

Bob

6:58 AM

@allq heh, we were migrating from CVS (!!) to SVN at work... I just migrated to git-svn and it's beautiful

ChatBot John Cavil

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ ^

Bob

I can commit parts of files now! :D

I can make branches easily now! :D

IDE integration isn't as good, but I'll give that up just for the branches.

jackopen

how to find which motherboards are compatible with amd athlon 64 cpu?

Bob

@jackopen First, find out which specific CPU model it is. ("amd athlon 64" is a rather large range)

Then find out which socket it uses.

Then find motherboards with that socket.

Then pick a motherboard and check its compatibility list.

jackopen

i have faulty motherboard

from motherboard manual i found that socket is 754

how to find complete model no. of CPU model? should i need to isolate it from mobo?

which is old

Bob

7:05 AM

@jackopen hm... good question

if you could boot, it's easy from within the system

but if you can't... well... it helps if you know it already but obviously not :P

jackopen

which sites(if you have anything on top of your head) may be helpful for compatibility chart mobo vs cpu?

Bob

I suppose it might be marked, and if you're committed to replacing the motherboard you might as well take it out (or at least take the heatsink and paste off) and seeing if there's a number on it

jackopen

i cant boot; computer is not working & hence replacing mobo

Bob

@jackopen there's so many motherboards compatible with many CPUs that I tend to just go with what's in stock locally and then look up their spec sheets

I think @JourneymanGeek favours pcpartpicker.com though

jackopen

yeah anyways i have to take it out one day whiel replacing

Journeyman Geek

7:07 AM

yeah

... 754?

@jackopen: if the motherboard isn't working, pop it out and check

BUT from what you're saying it may be a REALLY old system

like... its a socket introduced 10 years ago

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_754 is where I'd start

jackopen

yes it is 10 years old system

is it possible to find any compatible mobo for my CPU?

nowadays

@JourneymanGeek & @Bob

thanks for info

Journeyman Geek

Erm

chances are no

jackopen

going reverse

little bit

if new mobo are not compatible

Journeyman Geek

A computer is a bit like a dog. Sometimes they do die of old age, no matter how sad it is

jackopen

which is the old-latest mobo compatible for my system

so that i can check on craiglist/olx

Journeyman Geek

7:16 AM

@jackopen: any motherboard for it is likely to be old

you're better off getting a slightly newer system and mix-matching the parts if you want to go cheap

jackopen

3 years /4 years? if that then may be available on olx/criaglist

do you mean i have to replace both? (CPU+mobo)

Journeyman Geek

And the ram

jackopen

also RAM

Journeyman Geek

meh, I don't do older systems unless its free ;p

jackopen

as old DDR ram may not compatible new boards

how to find which is the old-latest mobo compatible for my system?

Journeyman Geek

7:18 AM

Thats a waste of time.

Awal Garg

what is?

oh hello btw... o/

Journeyman Geek

Read up ;p

WE DO HAVE TRANSCRIPTS.

Awal Garg

i don't have that much power though ;p. I request you to tell me what is a waste of time...

Journeyman Geek

@jackopen: makes more sense to look up AMD boards of approx 2004-2006 when they come up

(2006 is roughly when they switched to the next processor)

but its still a horrible idea

5 yearish is the oldest you should go for, IMO

Bob

That sounds like the kind of CPU a current Atom would piss all over :D

Journeyman Geek

7:22 AM

PRECISELY

jackopen

i thought it may increase little bit my knowledge @JourneymanGeek

Journeyman Geek

@jackopen: there's knowledge worth having

Bob

@jackopen If your goal was to improve your knowledge in computer-building, it's far more useful to know how to build a modern system.

Journeyman Geek

da

or to fix up a slightly malfunctioning system, like I did with juno

jackopen

i prefer having some background of old systems & then jump into new systems @Bob isnt it good practice?

Bob

7:24 AM

Heck, it's probably cheaper and almost certainly more reliable to just replace the whole system with the absolute cheapest one you can find today.

Journeyman Geek

not really

Bob

@jackopen Not really; I couldn't care less how RS232 ports and ISA slots and configuring IRQ handlers work.

Journeyman Geek

if it WASN'T your motherboard, I'd say go ahead

jackopen

bob saying bob?

ok

Bob

Some historical knowledge is useful.

Mostly the stuff that's still in use, or closely related to what's in use.

Journeyman Geek

7:25 AM

historical knowledge is best gained historically

or if the device is exotic.

Awal Garg

@JourneymanGeek I have been told that you happen to be an expert in keeping old hardware up to the standards.... can you please help me with getting an old PC to work properly?

Bob

@AwalGarg s/up to the standards/crawling along waiting for someone to put it out of its misery/

Journeyman Geek

@AwalGarg: expert? No. I do tend to occationally know how to check things, or asking the right questions, or telling people that its not worth the effort

Awal Garg

@Bob hahaha.

Journeyman Geek

the first rule of working with old hardware is to be realisitic

today you couldn't pay me to take a system without at least SATA and DDR2 from you.

If the processor or motherboard of such a system is messed up, I'd consider it BER

jackopen

7:28 AM

my friend gave me another CPU+motherboard. All of my computer parts(PSU, Drives, HDD) are isolated. I want to start my friends mobo+CPU with my parts.What should be the first step?

Bob

@jackopen Figure out what brand and model those parts are.

Journeyman Geek

ja

Bob

Rule 1 of assembling computers from random parts: find out just what the heck you're trying to put together

jackopen

@Bob how it is important? i think he has given me CPU+mobo together

Journeyman Geek

and benchtest a LOT

@jackopen: think != sure

Bob

7:29 AM

@jackopen Because other parts will rely on some features of the CPU and motherboard.

jackopen

sorry sure

i am sure

Bob

With the model you can look up specs and manuals.

Journeyman Geek

Even when they have the same pinouts sometimes.

jackopen

which parts you are talking about @Bob

Bob

Without the model, you're clueless.

jackopen

7:29 AM

PSU or drives?

Bob

@jackopen every part

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: though PSUs haven't changed TOO much in 20 years

outside PSU power connectors

jackopen

ok may be i ll inform you later

Bob

@JourneymanGeek 24 pin. given an old enough system...

jackopen

as system is not infront of me now.

Journeyman Geek

7:30 AM

yeah, 20 vs 24, 4/8 pin CPU power

Bob

@JourneymanGeek That was ~2003. Since we're talking a system from approx 2005, it isn't out of the realm of imagination that it has a PSU about that old

Journeyman Geek

true

I have a big gap in PC building around then

jackopen

i have still not get any reply about my query , "which was the last (latest) motherboard that can support my amd athlon 64 CPU(socket 754)?

Journeyman Geek

@jackopen: no one really knows

and its not really something that's of practical use to me

jackopen

i want to find via google. can you help me?

Bob

7:33 AM

@jackopen For any given CPU there's hundreds if not thousands of motherboards that "support" it.

jackopen

for keywords

Journeyman Geek

precisely

Bob

It's utterly impractical to try to list it.

jackopen

let us filter rightnow with brand ASUS/other reputed @Bob

Journeyman Geek

"How heavy is a pile of feathers?"

Bob

7:33 AM

I mentioned about: you're better off looking at what's available locally and seeing if they work, though it's difficult with such an old system.

Otherwise, look up the socket number and pray you'll find something.

Awal Garg

Specs:
1. Intel Core2Duo
2. Kingston 2GB DDR2 Memory
3. Stock Fan and all stock components
4. Chipset Intel G31+L
5. Moserbaer DVD-RW drive //doesn't matter though...
6. Logitech Keyboard with both the Alt Keys not working
7. A completely local mouse worth INR 100 ($1.5 or something)
8. SAMSUNG SyncMaster 632 NW Monitor
9. Speakers with Woofer from Creative TM
10. TP-Link MR3020 Router
11. HDD
a) Seagate SATA 250GB 5400RPM //smart status OK
b) Western Digital IDE 80GB 5400RPM //smart status GOOD

@JourneymanGeek ^

Journeyman Geek

Thats not too bad.

What's the problem?

Awal Garg

@JourneymanGeek don't tell me you read that entirely...

Journeyman Geek

ahh

Bob

!!tell 16778205 google asus socket 754

ChatBot John Cavil

7:35 AM

@jackopen * The ASUS K8N-E Deluxe Socket 754 Motherboard - HotHardware ; Asus K8V-MX Socket 754 MicroATX Motherboard Overview - CNET ; AnandTech | Socket 754 Roundup, Part 3: Asus, Soltek & DFI

Journeyman Geek

"no budget" = what can we really do?

are the USB ports rear?

are they both on one side or top and bottom?

Awal Garg

@JourneymanGeek two on front and two on back... front are dead.

jackopen

thanks @Bob for efforts

Journeyman Geek

rear and back are the same thing

Awal Garg

@JourneymanGeek ain't sure what you mean....

Journeyman Geek

7:36 AM

ok...

Bob

@JourneymanGeek lol

jackopen

rightnow i am loking here

hardwaresecrets.com/article/A-Complete-List-of-CPU-Sockets/373/…

Awal Garg

@JourneymanGeek monitor sometimes flickers.

Journeyman Geek

find a motherboard manual, and mark the broken USB ports for me ;p

Bob

@JourneymanGeek shit I'm trying not to laugh too loudly at work

Awal Garg

7:37 AM

oh c'mon, can't I make a silly mistake???

Journeyman Geek

is flickering monitor could be busted caps

can be fixed cheap when it dies, but its a pain

Bob

> Last Updated: September 20, 2012

That list is not complete.

Awal Garg

@JourneymanGeek caps?

Journeyman Geek

capasitors.

VERY common on older monitors.

Bob

Heck, that list starts with 486 sockets.

Awal Garg

7:39 AM

@JourneymanGeek 2007

Journeyman Geek

Honestly, an USB 3 card may be a nice investment

Bob

Did they not hear about the 386? 286? 8086?

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: many of those were soldered on?

Awal Garg

@JourneymanGeek ok. how to replace caps?

Journeyman Geek

soldering iron, solder sucker, and a LOT of patience.

Bob

7:40 AM

@JourneymanGeek At least the 386 had a socketed version, IIRC

Journeyman Geek

and they often fail after you replaced a previous one.

Awal Garg

@JourneymanGeek no solder.

Journeyman Geek

meh. If you're going to deal with junk you NEED to learn to fix shit.

You don't wave a magic wand over gear and get it to work.

Sometimes you need to spend a little to get something working better.

Awal Garg

does flickering monitor need to fixed? I don't seem to have any major problem with it. it is operable and normal.

Journeyman Geek

(or do what I do, and save your bones for a while and get good gear)

hmm

flickering how?

is it in native resolution?

Bob

7:43 AM

@AwalGarg ...I don't think "flickering" fits under the definition of "operable and normal"

Awal Garg

@JourneymanGeek nope.

Journeyman Geek

....

Bob

well, maybe "operable"

Awal Garg

@Bob it flickers just sometimes.

Bob

certainly not "normal"

at least I hope not

if it is, then tell me the manuf so I can stay far far away

Awal Garg

7:44 AM

@JourneymanGeek native resolution = 1366*768 mine is 1280 and 720

Journeyman Geek

Don't run an LCD at anything other than native resolution

EVER.

Awal Garg

@JourneymanGeek so sorry. what to do now? please guide me.

Journeyman Geek

That should fix your flickering.

set your OS to run at the monitor's native resolution.

Awal Garg

@JourneymanGeek I can't get the option for 1366 in the resolution list.

its windows 7 ultimate 64 bit. //I know 64 bit on 2gb is bad, but AE13 not runs on 32bit

I have tried to install the drivers, but it doesn't help

Journeyman Geek

which is wierd

wait. You don't have drivers installed for your video card?

Awal Garg

7:46 AM

Onboard graphics card--- Intel Graphics Chipset

Journeyman Geek

which should handle that res fine

Awal Garg

"that res" as in the native one or the one which I am running now?

Journeyman Geek

Native

Bob

@AwalGarg wtf is "AE13"?

Journeyman Geek

Have you tried going into advanced options, Adaptor and List all modes?

Bob

7:48 AM

@AwalGarg How did you install them? Where did you get them from? What's your CPU and motherboard model?

Awal Garg

ok. On ubuntu, I once fitted in a friends old MACH64GM, and ubuntu immediately automatically catched the native res. and yes, flickering stopped immediately.

Bob

I'm asking that last question a lot today ^

Awal Garg

@JourneymanGeek yep... done so.

Journeyman Geek

then I have no idea

but luckily its not caps.

Awal Garg

@Bob chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/16778216#16778216 antionebox

Bob

7:48 AM

@AwalGarg model please

Awal Garg

@JourneymanGeek please please don't say so.

Journeyman Geek

I'm not omnicient

If I was I'd go buy a lottery ticket.

Bob

"Core2Duo" means about as much to me as saying "I watched a film by George Lucas"

which one??

Awal Garg

@Bob intel core2duo. not sure what else you mean?

Bob

...................

List of Intel Core 2 microprocessors

The Core 2 brand refers to Intel's x86/x86-64 microprocessors with the Core microarchitecture targeted at the consumer and business markets (except servers) above Pentium. The Core 2 solo branch covered single-core CPUs for notebook computers, Core 2 Duo – dual-core CPUs for both desktop and notebook computers, Core 2 Quad – quad-core CPUs for both desktop and notebook computers, and Core 2 Extreme – dual-core and quad-core CPUs for both desktop and notebook computers. == Desktop processors == === Dual-Core Desktop processors === ==== Core 2 Duo ==== ===== "Allendale" (65 nm) ===== ...

See how many there are there?

That is the problem.

Though, if it's c2d-era then the motherboard is a bit more important. But you haven't included that model number either!

Awal Garg

7:51 AM

@Bob just to narrow down, I'll provide more details. 2.66GHz

Bob

@AwalGarg I'm not here to play a puzzle game.

Awal Garg

e7300

@Bob E7300 sorry

Journeyman Geek

@AwalGarg: meh, lets save some time

go run speccy and give the output to us

Awal Garg

@JourneymanGeek ok...

I have speccy, wait

Bob

1 min ago, by Bob

Though, if it's c2d-era then the motherboard is a bit more important. But you haven't included that model number either!

Awal Garg

7:52 AM

@Bob intel g31+L...

pastebin.com/fLZUkUAT

Bob

@AwalGarg That's a chipset... not a motherboard model. Though in this case it doesn't matter as much.

Journeyman Geek

How's your monitor connected? Would switching to DVI be an option?

Bob

Now, back to an earlier question: where did you get the GPU drivers you tried?

Awal Garg

@JourneymanGeek through the very normal cable by the very normal port

@Bob intel website. automatic driver detection process.

Bob

@AwalGarg Ya, that generally should work, but there are some odd mobos out there where nothing but the mobo drivers will work.

@AwalGarg ...I'm beginning to think you're just trolling now.

Awal Garg

7:56 AM

@JourneymanGeek aint sure what DVI is. there is a blue cable, blue port. silver pins, the plug is in the form of a parallelogram with a lot of pins, and plugged into the port with hole for the pins. same for the other end of the cable.

Journeyman Geek

....

Awal Garg

@Bob nono. please don't think so.

Journeyman Geek

analog cables.

eww

Awal Garg

@JourneymanGeek should I post a pic?

Journeyman Geek

naw, I know what that is

meh, I hate those.

Awal Garg

7:57 AM

showmecables.com/images/catalog/product/… <--exactly this. the blue one.

is it bad?

Journeyman Geek

People don't use them much any more

and I find video quality is sometimes slightly worse.

Awal Garg

there are other ports around the same port. but not sure what they are for. seem to be like for projector etc. no hdmi though.

Bob

@JourneymanGeek They can run 1080p@60fps without many issues, over a short length.

Awal Garg

lemme check

Bob

1366x768 should be perfectly fine, assuming the cable isn't terrible.

Journeyman Geek

7:59 AM

@Bob: I had one doing full HD, it was a bit fuzzy.

Bob

@allq stackoverflow.com/a/15161760/1030702

ChatBot John Cavil

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ ^

Journeyman Geek

His issue, if any though is that its not detecting monitor info

Bob

> Moving forward to .NET 4.x, those dependencies on previous frameworks have been dropped and, on the same time, they support fewer (and newer) operating systems and platforms (take for instance ia64 support - which was quite heavy on file size - and is now almost disappeared).

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