Root Access

1:21 AM

D link switches. I don't want to use my laptop though with everything else. Was hoping I could get a small device or adapter, hook it up to a kvm, ???, then profit

Journeyman Geek

2:35 AM

theverge.com/2014/2/28/5456374/windows-8-1-with-bing-experiment

I kinda hope its true, It would be perfect to throw on a VM

HackToHell

3:04 AM

And the Nokia X rom dump is on XDA

It's only a matter of time before it has roms

Oh wait, they have rooted it already o_0 xda-developers.com/android/…

Journeyman Geek

XD

This suprises you why? ;p

allquixotic

@JourneymanGeek yeah... eating 100% CPU while it data-mines you and throws you ads and bing search results for things you searched for in windows explorer

HackToHell

@JourneymanGeek Nokia isn't running fully patched android

allquixotic

also i would be astonished if it exposes the Desktop, even on x86(_64)

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic: meh, A non-expiring testing VM? ;p

@allquixotic:that actually sounds possible

allquixotic

3:15 AM

what? that it does, or doesn't, expose it?

Journeyman Geek

Verge seems to hint it leaked

That its metro-only

allquixotic

i wouldn't put it past them

"you want the desktop? ohhhhhhh... you must be an enterprise customer... plz pony up $299"

Journeyman Geek

The p-bay comments on the leaked version seem to indicate its almost the same as regular windows 8 though

allquixotic

@JourneymanGeek with no license key?

....come to think of it, why the hell would you download a gimped version of windows with builtin spyware from pirate bay...

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic: its a torrent, so obviously someone's leaked a licence key and a way to activate it too ;p

allquixotic

3:17 AM

Windows 8.1 Professional is available, cracked and free

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic: Never said anything about downloading ;p

I don't run pirated software. I ~~only read the articles~~ was looking at the comments ;p

allquixotic

still, if you're going to break the law, why go half house and use a gimped version? why not Pro?

not saying you are breaking the law, I'm saying, people who would actually torrent that

what possible motivation could there be for hosting it at all

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic: People will download anything new ;p

allquixotic

@JourneymanGeek ...true...

HackToHell

scared to flash this forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2596271 ^_^

DemCodeLines

3:43 AM

So, I heard Microsoft might release a version of Windows 8.1 as free for everyone.

allquixotic

1 hour ago, by Journeyman Geek

http://www.theverge.com/2014/2/28/5456374/windows-8-1-with-bing-experiment

we just talked about that

DemCodeLines

I just came, sorry about that.

I doubt it will be metro only.

that'd be dumb

allquixotic

"dumb" for who? Microsoft wants everyone to get all their apps from the Microsoft Store, where they can take 30% off the top of every app sale on the Windows platform

they have an enormous financial incentive to get everyone locked into Metro-only

the sooner they can eliminate the "open" desktop, the richer they'll be

Journeyman Geek

It may still be locked down in some way

DemCodeLines

I know, but when people didn't buy Windows 8 along with a desktop mode, what makes you think they will buy Windows 8 without a desktop mode, for use on a desktop.

Journeyman Geek

3:48 AM

@allquixotic: don't forget wanting to move people into ~~skydrive~~ onedrive

allquixotic

they could make Windows operating system licenses 100% freeware (not open source, but $0 price) and make more money than they're making right now, if they shut off the desktop and make all paid app sales go through their walled garden

@DemCodeLines eventually, people will have no choice -- at least, that's what Microsoft thinks

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic: or even enough of them, a-la-apple

(Though, a unified way of updating software on windows does sound potentially neat)

allquixotic

once Windows 8.1 is as old as Windows 2000 is today, people will have no choice but to avoid obsolescence, so they'll upgrade... into the walled garden of Metro-only, and buy all their apps through the Micro$oft Store

it's Microsoft's survival strategy for the next few decades

it's a very farsighted move

in the next 5 years it's not going to help them hardly at all

but it will help them decades from now

DemCodeLines

I feel people will never upgrade, like ever.

Just like 7 guys and XP guys are just not upgrading.

allquixotic

@DemCodeLines they will... eventually

HackToHell

3:52 AM

XP hangs up way too much.

allquixotic

when the software they use is no longer supported on those platforms, and not receiving updates, and they can hardly get on the internet without getting owned by automated security exploits, and their fancy new printer or VR glasses or whatever doesn't work with their OS, they'll upgrade

HackToHell

I can't get myself to use it, it's tooo old

DemCodeLines

If an XP user from 2001 upgrades to the next version 12 years later, then it will be a long time before Microsoft can get its users on updated hardware.

allquixotic

@DemCodeLines but only a tiny minority of people will continue using that setup for 12+ years... the vast majority will keep relatively current, within 5 years of the latest

just like how today the biggest shares of Windows installations are running Windows Vista or later

(the total # of users running Vista+7+8+8.1 is more than any other OS)

DemCodeLines

But they must get on the Metro part of the "latest" OS because if they don't, then MSFT won't be able to build that App store like software distribution center.

Also, big time applications like Photoshop are not going to convert into touch based applications.

They will force the desktop to still be around.

allquixotic

3:57 AM

@DemCodeLines I disagree -- Metro is going to be flexible enough to accommodate any application you can imagine... the point of Metro isn't to stick to any particular design, it's to sell apps through the Microsoft STore

DemCodeLines

So Desktop mode will stick around?

If it is there, then why would people develop and sell through MSFT store when they can simply continue the current trend?

Unless of course, they just stop using the registry to and create a new file database, kinda like how they planned to do for Vista and did in Longhorn.

allquixotic

@DemCodeLines no, but I think people will design Metro apps that behave like desktop apps as far as the UI design

basically, they'll run in the metro UI but they'll be optimized for keyboard and mouse instead of touch

that's probably the direction photoshop will take

Start Screen -> Windows Store -> buy Photoshop for $599 (or subscribe for $20/month), download the "App", Microsoft gets X%, installed, tap the icon to start, and the UI will be similar-ish to the desktop app of old, but run on the Metro framework

maybe with an optional "Touch Mode" that changes the layout of the UI to work well on a touchscreen

DemCodeLines

So basically a maximized version of a regular Win32 Window? So that means that the legacy Win32 api will still live on for backwards compatibility and continue to make Windows slow? Also, what about the fact that Microsoft is reportedly bringing back the Start Menu in the upcoming update?

allquixotic

4:14 AM

@DemCodeLines in the near term they'll continue to support the desktop for sure, but their plan is to phase it out

Journeyman Geek

ahh, technology. Just sent pictures of a broken pipe to my brother from my phone so he'd know what to get. He got the right parts ;p

@allquixotic: I also suspect part of the reason is they really want to move people off XP

whether or not windows desktop/winapi gets killed off

Thats new. Google now seems to have a seekrit fitness tracker thing

DemCodeLines

People will go crazy if winapi gets killed, meaning everything stops working.

Journeyman Geek

@DemCodeLines: true. On the other hand, they can kill off the pre vista driver model totally

which saves everyone a bit of work

likewise with some parts of the API. Same reason its a complete PITA finding software that works on win2k :)

HackToHell

4:35 AM

nice :D play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.stdiostudios.now

allquixotic

5:48 AM

@Bob @HackToHell @JourneymanGeek working on my YASDown :P

Journeyman Geek

;p

Boris_yo

6:34 AM

Morning

Nexus 4 - Vibration function restoration results:

1. Factory Reset - futile
2. Upgrade to Jellybean - futile

Conclusion - Bring to service provider

Anonymous

@Boris_yo or open it up and heat it with a gun

Anonymous

like i did

Anonymous

and desolder everything by accident

Anonymous

like i did

Anonymous

;_;

Boris_yo

6:43 AM

@PatoSáinz Good boy!

After upgrading to Jellybean, there's now KitKat upgrade waiting for me. No way @HackToHell!

Anonymous

@Boris_yo i saying fuck it

Anonymous

and buying a moto /g/

Journeyman Geek

lol

@PatoSáinz: Join us. JOOIIIN USSSSS

Anonymous

@JourneymanGeek you have it too?

Journeyman Geek

@PatoSáinz: erm, yeah?

Anonymous

6:51 AM

I'd go for a Nexus 4 but the price is simply irresistible

Journeyman Geek

I've only mentioned it a lot of times ;p

@PatoSáinz: Suprisingly, there's quite a few decent semi-cheapie phones on the market right now

Anonymous

@JourneymanGeek since you are a power user, is 1 gig of ram enough for you? (i'm sorry i'm asking this but you've got to understand i come from BLACKBERRY OS 6 LAND)

Journeyman Geek

@PatoSáinz: well, I've never had ram issues on this

Anonymous

@JourneymanGeek also is there enough graphics power on it for you?

Anonymous

also also, what's your batt life

Journeyman Geek

6:53 AM

@PatoSáinz: I don't really game much on a phone

the way I use it, at least a day

Anonymous

@JourneymanGeek me neither but i dick around the net a lot

Journeyman Geek

very little phone calls, and lots of web and ebooks

Anonymous

>not reading your ebooks in a kindle

Anonymous

ISHYGDDT

Journeyman Geek

ISHTGDDT?

(and seriously, the screen is beautiful)

Anonymous

6:54 AM

i surely hope you guys don't do this

Journeyman Geek

@PatoSáinz: I spend a lot of time being stuck in public transport ;p

Anonymous

@JourneymanGeek same

Journeyman Geek

so, yeah, I do read ebooks on my phone, and the screen is seriously nice

Anonymous

@JourneymanGeek do you use headphones?

Anonymous

with the /g/

Journeyman Geek

6:55 AM

@PatoSáinz: not the stock ones.

Anonymous

@JourneymanGeek LOL NO

Journeyman Geek

Its a pain the the ass finding headphones that fit

Anonymous

my headphones are a little impedance heavy

Journeyman Geek

Not a Sound quality thing, most headphones fall off

Anonymous

so i want to know if the /g/ can handle them

Journeyman Geek

6:56 AM

How impedence heavy?

the 'worst' I have is my FA003s and they're fine

Anonymous

@JourneymanGeek they leech my dying blackberry let me check the specs...

Journeyman Geek

oh, battery life?

Anonymous

graphs.headphone.com/…

Anonymous

the pioneer ones

Anonymous

@JourneymanGeek yes

Journeyman Geek

6:58 AM

I don't use my proper headphones for extended periods of time on the phone ;p

so no idea

Anonymous

oh i do

Anonymous

:)

Sathya

7:52 AM

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wireless-networking

HackToHell

Also spoof means I hear voice over my husband — user304175 21 mins ago

@Sathya gem :D

Boris_yo

@PatoSáinz Is Motto G better than Nexus 4?

Good thing Google Contacts have periodic backups. I messed my contacts yesterday and had to restore earlier version.

Boris_yo

8:34 AM

google.com/… To find specific app that shoes its rated result in search results of Google. I don't know other way how to do this in Google Play anyway so this is what I came up with. I also know technique to set minimum votes and reviews if you are interested.

Boris_yo

8:55 AM

Would it be not smart to buy used HDD? ebay.com/itm/…

Journeyman Geek

@Boris_yo: is about as good as a galaxy S3 benchmarkwise.

and that HDD looks like a bad idea

hm, I'd guess roughly on par

But the moto G is cheaper ;p

Boris_yo

@JourneymanGeek What HDD has to do with Galaxy S3 benchmarking?

Journeyman Geek

You asked two questions. ;p

Boris_yo

@JourneymanGeek Oh your quote discrepancy again...

Journeyman Geek

;p

KEEP UP WITH THE PROGRAM!

Boris_yo

9:07 AM

Moto G is and Galaxy S3 are better than Nexus 4? Camera-wise? Vibration power-wise?

Journeyman Geek

nope, benchmarkwise, a moto G is about as good as a galaxy s3. The benchmark I ran has the galaxy S3 having better native performance, and the moto G having better java performance.

Might be the version of android.

Boris_yo

@JourneymanGeek Tried KitKat already? Satisfied?

Journeyman Geek

@Boris_yo: yup

I didn't have JB very long though

@Boris_yo: ^

(As I said before, elsewhere, the moto G is essentially a flagship phone, just from the last generation)

and it feels solid, screen's pin sharp, and readable in daylight if the adaptive lighting sets things correctly, or you turn up the brightness

HackToHell

9:24 AM

Mine does 14k

Journeyman Geek

(I'd also add I went from a phone with a monochrome screen to a HTC one V to a moto G. All were considered low end when they came out. PROGRESS!)

Bob

1:25 PM

@allquixotic @JimmyHoffa well... I'm bored. time to try to figure out the chat login :P

probably with C#, though. can't be arsed to use Node

hmm

> This Agreement shall be governed by and construed in accordance with the laws of the state of Delaware without regard to the conflict of laws provisions thereof.

Delaware?

(SE ToS)

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delaware_General_Corporation_Law

Probably cause of that ^

Bob

1:44 PM

@JourneymanGeek ...

Hennes

2:23 PM

Random blah because I am bored:

Hennes

3:03 PM

Time to go nuclear: Trinidad Moruga Scorpion Red

6 seeds planted.

Boris_yo

3:34 PM

lol?

amazon.com/review/R20R9ATTX3XFET/…

Hennes

I tried to read that, but I just do not have the time for it

GFSE

3:50 PM

gemsfromstackexchange: Ah, yes, the mysterious magic cord that turns non-HD TVs into HD...

posted on March 01, 2014

Ah, yes, the mysterious magic cord that turns non-HD TVs into HD TVs.

Braiam

4:06 PM

@GFSE OMG...

Anonymous

Meanwhile on Australis

Tom Wijsman

Looks normal to me.

Bob

@PatoSáinz Link?

user3236180

Hello, any image processing/vision experts out there?

Bob

4:14 PM

@user3236180 Maybe, maybe not, but feel free to ask.

user3236180

I am using Matlab to get the gradient of an image using:
[Gmag, Gdir]=imgradient(im);
I modify the Gdir:
GdirI=(Gdir+180)*(255/360);
Now I want to save the same image but with the new gradient. Anybody knows how I can infer this?

Bob

@user3236180 I have no idea, but maybe start looking here? mathworks.com.au/help/images/geometric-transformations.html

Or one of the other things here: mathworks.com.au/help/images/index.html

user3236180

ok thanks!

Bob

Alternatively, you could try asking on the main site.

I'm not sure if this would be more suited for SO. Maybe.

This image stays roughly in sync with the day (assuming the Earth continues spinning). Shortcut: xkcd.com/now

:D

especially the alt text

no more googling for "time in X" :P

allquixotic

4:31 PM

@Bob we all need to get out and push, because the earth is slowly losing rotational momentum!

Ash

6:28 PM

I am confused between containers and file formats .Whats the difference ?

a container contains the information on which codec is being used to encode the video , so can a container consist of information on more than one codec ? ie, can a video be decoded with more than one codec ? (I guess not)

if a video container is mp4 then the file extension (which depicts file format) like mp4 in wow.mp4 simply tells which container it uses ?

why is it that i can play wow.mp4 even if its renamed to wow.avi

(with vlc)

is a.mp3 a file format or an audio container ?

these questions are not organized , they came to mind randomly.

(it may be silly : and that's what I do : ask silly/stupid questions )

@allquixotic ,@Bob

Hennes

7:33 PM

Whoa. Hold it. several questions.

As to renaming: You can open an excel sheet with excel, even if you rename it to mySheet.doc.

Because the file name has nothing to do with the file contents.

(OK, small exception: Windows often thinks that it does. But that is just where it is broken)

As to a container: Think of a literal container, like a box.

Or a postal parcel

I can but several things in to.

Some with a video container. It has a generic extension, and the program will have to look inside and read what is stored in it.

Boris_yo

8:33 PM

@Ash That's how we learn...

KronoS

would like to get your guy's opinions on this:

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