Root Access

Psycogeek

12:00 AM

well technically too :-) the theme is a dark one

Bob

@Psycogeek Looks like standard Vista.

DragonLord

12:28 AM

Going to be getting this as my first Lucky Dozen drink at Starbucks

> Venti iced quad ristretto pumpkin spice latte with whipped cream, lite ice

Am I crazy?

Cup     Venti iced (24 oz)
Decaf
Shots   4R
Syrup
Milk
Custom  WC / LtIce
Drink   PSL

;p

Speaking of crazy Starbucks orders, see huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/30/…

> Venti Iced Skinny Hazelnut Macchiato, Sugar-Free Syrup, Extra Shot, Light Ice, No Whip

Cup     Venti iced (24 oz)
Decaf
Shots   4
Syrup   SFH
Milk    N
Custom  LtIce / -WC-
Drink   HM

(WC is crossed out as marked on the cup)

I don't work at Starbucks, but that's how I understood the order

Bob

@DragonLord I know some of those words independently, but the order in which they are arranged makes no sense to me.

Journeyman Geek

2:55 AM

heh

ANything beyond "Coffee with/without milk" is too complicated ;p

0

Q: Shielding mobile phone

I tried putting the mobile phone in the microwave oven then close it, I tried putting the phone in a metal cooker and close it, in fridge,.. it seems every time the phone still can receive the call from other phone which means those devices can not shield electromagnetic wave. Is there any effec...

whut?

DragonLord

@JourneymanGeek Voted to close as off-topic

Journeyman Geek

Yeah, just wanted to share the sheer wtfery ;p

DragonLord

Hah, deleted by owner

...and undeleted.

superuser.com/posts/844170/timeline

Undeleted just to curse at me? :/

2

@JourneymanGeek, why don't we 10k users get timeline links for questions, e.g. superuser.com/posts/843847/timeline?

Bob

@JourneymanGeek The paranoia is strong with this one: security.stackexchange.com/questions/68975/…

Journeyman Geek

Beats me ;p

I'm the janitor.

DragonLord

3:07 AM

@JourneymanGeek I suppose you get this under the mod menu, right?

Journeyman Geek

Yeah

DragonLord

Screenshot?

Journeyman Geek

Not sure if I can share that ;p

Just know that its there and used for good, not evil

allquixotic

@DragonLord anonymous user###### doesn't like being ~~censored~~ made to follow the rules ;D

Journeyman Geek

Not even worth bothering with further ;p

DragonLord

3:25 AM

Caught a spammer:

Amelie Moore

1

conversion email microsoft-outlook thunderbird

I'm really beginning to appreciate the 10k tools...

Journeyman Geek

boom

Probably not going to do much moderation outside spammer whacking today

I'm a bit overexcited ;p

DragonLord

Another long list of NAA flags.

Journeyman Geek

Ya, I definately noticed.

I have an interview today, at a very cool place ;p

Psycogeek

3:43 AM

@JourneymanGeek wrap it with Mylar and put it in a steel file cabinet. that is what it took to test loosing a cell signal here.

Journeyman Geek

;p

Psycogeek

I was trying to test a macro that talks to the user when the cell tower signal is lost for more than 1 whole minute or something. was easy before they added another tower.

HackToHell

3:59 AM

This Edison is awesome !

Canadian Luke

4:21 AM

Evening all!

ekaj

4:46 AM

Evening!

Journeyman Geek

@HackToHell: What does it run?

Can you run a proper linux on it? Windows?

ekaj

May be of interest to you at the moment, apparently it's 1/8 the price until Dec. 31: colfaxdirect.com/store/pc/…

Journeyman Geek

Heard about that ;p

HackToHell

@JourneymanGeek Runs Yocta

people have ported Debian on it

3 cores and it runs of a USB power source

Has integrated WiFi/BT, 1 gigs of RAM and a 4GB eMMC

Journeyman Geek

3? cool

Debian would make it useful

ekaj

4:56 AM

psh, 3 vs 57

HackToHell

Journeyman Geek

lol

HackToHell

> Main SoC of the board is new Intel Atom "Tangier" (Z34XX), produced with 22 nm, having 2 Atom Silvermont cores running at 500 MHz and one Intel Quark core at 100 MHz (for executing RTOS ViperOS). SoC has 1 GB RAM integrated on package. There is also 4 GB eMMC Flash on board, WiFi/Bluetooth4 and USB controllers.

ekaj

5:34 AM

hipaa backups must be encrypted, but do the machines the data is actively being used on need to be as well? it would make sense if they had to, but I have been poking around and haven't found where it says it needs to be

ah okay, well I found this "◾However, if a portable device needs to be encrypted due to stored sensitive information, file/folder level encryption and full disk encryption (FDE) are both options to keep data safe while stored locally." and "◾Data at rest needs to be encrypted as well – this includes data stored on disk drives, backup tapes, or servers since they can be accessed from remote locations and in the physical location if not properly locked/secured"

XKCD

No way, we gotta rewind and cross-reference this map with the list of coordinates we saw on the other screen. This Greenland thing could be big.

Bob

o.o

NB8 is a monster

Uses more memory than Eclipse... and spends a fair bit of time pegging a CPU core

On the other hand, it's still very smooth - no constant freezing as Eclipse seems to like

(^ @allquixotic)

Working with Swing - JOptionPane is nice. I wish .NET had something like that built-in. On the minus side, data binding is a pain in the arse with Swing.

DragonLord

6:03 AM

dsstyles.com/news/2013/… – LOL

Cup markings mean "double decaf hazelnut soy latte"

Journeyman Geek

._.

DragonLord

Why is there a system (user ID -313) XKCD account?

Journeyman Geek

6:31 AM

That seems new

Also, someone at SE really likes XKCD? ;p

ekaj

There are a few -userid bots apparently

or maybe theyre just feeds and stuff mainly, I dunno =p

DragonLord

6:54 AM

Winter Bash is coming up soon

I'm wondering how much my participation would impact my standing as a contributor to Super User

In past years, I never took Winter Bash seriously, and even ended up hitting "I hate hats" in 2012 if my memory serves me correctly

This year, I'm committed to contributing to Super User more than ever and will truly try to earn as many hats as I can

For me, it's not just for show, it's to prove my worth

That narrow loss in the last moderator election still haunts me

Sathya

0

Q: Web master tool URL not found Isuue

I have using Joomla backend it have same issue by automatic "URL" generated. Automatic URL show in webmaster tool Not found. And Please Help me, How to rectifier this issue.

web url web-development url-rewriting joomla

> Hi, I am become best web designer.

3

I'll say.

whut?

(see his bio)

lol

Stack Exchange has so many rules and can get so confusing at times...

Sathya

7:09 AM

such as?

Journeyman Geek

@DragonLord: I think rule 0 is pretty important ;p

Be nice

Then you branch out to understanding the social fabric of the place ;p

DragonLord

The "no cross-posting" rule

Journeyman Geek

That's fairly informal

@DragonLord: I never take winterbash seriously

DragonLord

I'm not really confused about the rules, but I'm concerned about newcomers

The help center has made a huge difference, though

Journeyman Geek

<--- has a hat ;p

Not really

I'm a huge proponent of the old, single page help

DragonLord

7:26 AM

@JourneymanGeek Doesn't the tour better serve this purpose?

Journeyman Geek

Not in my opinion

DragonLord

The idea of a guided tour was actually mine

22

Q: Create a guided tour for new users

New users of a Stack Exchange site may not fully understand how the site works. For example, the user may not know how to vote, what reputation is, how to format a question or answer, or how to navigate the site. While the FAQ and privilege pages may offer enough information to teach new users ...

feature-request status-completed new-users tutorials

The result was pretty close to what I envisioned

AzkerM

0

Q: Canon printer does not print over the network at times

We've been having this printing issue for the last two months where the printer stops taking prints over the network at a certain point. Each and every time we need to reset the printer by powering it off and on to get it back online. Few canon technicians came and said that we may have a network...

networking printer network-printer issue-tracking

Hi There!

Any help on this?

DragonLord

7:52 AM

Hmm

I've had the same issue with my Brother laser printer

Unfortunately, I don't have a solution

Journeyman Geek

8:31 AM

waiting for my interview. Shitting bricks yo

AzkerM

Hmm! I'm quiet confused where else to check.

David Z

9:01 AM

Hey all, random question... does anyone know how to verify a download of the Firefox installer for OS X? Like, is there a cryptographic hash or a digital signature published somewhere?

Awal Garg

9:32 AM

@DavidZ which version?

download.cdn.mozilla.net/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/… this directory contains the ones for the 33 release...

David Z

@AwalGarg latest, 33.1.1. That link is exactly what I need. Thanks!

This wouldn't fit on the main site, right? If it would, I'd be happy to post it so you can accumulate some rep with that answer. If you care about such things. ;-)

Journeyman Geek

10:00 AM

Interview went well I think.

Looks like there is one more round

Oliver Salzburg

11:19 AM

O_o

And another gem:

Awal Garg

11:47 AM

@DavidZ It would suite on the main site I guess, but I don't want rep :P Glad I could help :)

HackToHell

> wfplwfs.sys

is using 100 mb of non paged pool RAM

:/

WFP NDIS 6.30 Lightweight Filter Driver

So much for the light weight

No idea what to do :|

Paged pool also uses 300 mb now

FML

The NTFS metafile is 300 mb :/

Time to stress test all them drivers :(

answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wiki/windows_other-system/…

Awal Garg

1:34 PM

hello

I am following the following:

learn2crack.com/2013/07/…

(For educational purpose)

And the problem is that I can detect the bssid of only the first wifi connection.

Which is not mine.. :(

How can I detect the bssid of the second wireless connection?

That Brazilian Guy

CLIPPY TO THE RESCUE!

Awal Garg

I tried using wlan1 instead of wlan0 and mon1 instead of mon0 but that still resolved to the first wireless connection :(

@ThatBrazilianGuy clippy is so much irritating :/

Anyone got any idea?

ooooooohh nvm got it

had exit out of the initially started airmon process

and open it again... :P

That Brazilian Guy

WPS sucks and is enabled by default in a lot of routers

And in some it stays enabled even when you explicitly disable it

Like my router, for instance

Awal Garg

2:07 PM

hmm, that doesn't seem to work. Is anyone willing to test that thing with me? (under ubuntu 14.04 x64)

So no evil mind here? :( Too bad...

Awal Garg

3:07 PM

muhahaha!!! It worked!! Cracked (my own) WIFI password \o/ \o/

hrm, the router quite quickly blocked the connection... looks like routers are now smart enough already

Doing another attack instantly blocked the attempt with rate-limiting.

This is quite interesting :P

Jordan Richards

3:34 PM

Hi there, I am having trouble installing daemon tools.

Boris_yo

@Psycogeek Plunger that looks good on paper: amazon.com/PlungeMAX-PF0507-Sanitary-Toilet-Plunger/dp/…

Jordan Richards

When I do package/install, here's what I get at the end:

/usr/bin/ld: errno: TLS definition in /lib/libc.so.6 section .tbss mismatches non-TLS reference in envdir.o
/lib/libc.so.6: could not read symbols: Bad value
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make: *** [envdir] Error 1
Copying commands into ./command...
cp: cannot stat `compile/svscan': No such file or directory

I am unsure of what could be the cause, any ideas?

allquixotic

@JordanRichards that's a pretty low-level error, suggesting possibly that this "daemon tools" (not sure what that is) provided some pre-compiled binaries that needed to be linked, but your glibc version is ABI-incompatible with the one they used.... OR you had stale object files in the build dir and have upgraded your compiler toolchain or distro version since

Jordan Richards

@allquixotic ah yes! So adding -include /usr/include/errno.h should do the trick

I'll try that now

allquixotic

.....um

what would make you think that?

that's a linkage error, not a compile error

Jordan Richards

3:39 PM

lol, I finally googled the right thing.

jamesreubenknowles.com/centos5-daemontools-143

allquixotic

wow, that's rather unusual

Jordan Richards

Worked! :D

allquixotic

I blame it on running an ancient version of CentOS. Upgrade!

Jordan Richards

@allquixotic Fair enough

allquixotic

CentOS 6 and 7 are out

Jordan Richards

3:42 PM

I guess I got too lazy to upgrade

What would be the best way to backup my server, so that after I upgrade, things go back to the way they were?

allquixotic

there's no easy way

the upgrade changes too many things... init system, package versions, config files, etc... you can fairly easily backup your data, like exporting SQL databases and copying off any files you need, but configuration and package installation will have to be done again... however, with an up-to-date version of the OS, you probably wouldn't have to go through as many shenanigans to get things installed and working

Jordan Richards

@allquixotic Well, at the moment I'm not sure of the "way" that it should be done. I do not expect it to be easy, I think it would be worth my effort.

allquixotic

and running daemontools wouldn't even need to be installed at all on CentOS 7, since everything it does can be done using systemd which is builtin

Jordan Richards

@allquixotic Alright, so just download all the files that I need to keep and just redo the system configuration, lamp stack, etc?

I will also backup my httpd conf

I was dreaming of a easy magic command "system update" or "download backup.gzip", then"backup -install backup.gzip" lolol

allquixotic

well I'd do it this way -- make a list of all the config files you've edited, and back them up; when you install fresh, backup the default conf files and then replace them with the edited ones, then work through the errors... you will probably get errors due to deprecated commands, syntax, etc

Jordan Richards

3:49 PM

@allquixotic Wise idea!

I cannot believe I chose CentOS 5...

I am pretty sure I could of chose CentOS 7 for no extra cost when I purchased my VPS package :L

allquixotic

nah, CentOS 7 only came out recently

Jordan Richards

4:03 PM

I do not understand how to run services with daemon tools, I'm too used to using "screen". What does it mean by "service directory" ?

svc /var/bot apparently "file does not exist"

Psycogeek

@Boris_yo wouldnt even try it. blowing air past stuff clogged in water funnel areas is not going to work in all cases. Sometimes stuff has to come back the other way, which can include stuff that never should have gone down there to begin with. a person doesnt want to get really bad clogs down further IN pipes, but then a snake might be the only method of uncloging at that point anyway.

Jordan Richards

4:20 PM

@allquixotic I keep getting "unable to start bot/run access is denied" when I try to use supervise

I have the right permissions

allquixotic

@JordanRichards I don't have enough context to understand exactly what you're doing or what is producing that message, so I can't help

that, and I'm rather busy at work today

Jordan Richards

@allquixotic I understand. It appears I am just setting the directory up wrong.

Thanks for all your help today anyway :)

Psycogeek

4:55 PM

@DragonLord they touched on 2 things that bring up thought. Why Not make it a game? When people have like zero time to search , google will put up some lame game and even without time, people will be poking into it. If they are going to be so assured that the user must be beat down to co-operate, then why not Beat them down before they Can post a question (only the very first one)? People are so fed up with poop, they are handling it by flinging thier own poo, how is that a solution?

DragonLord

@Psycogeek Look, the whole point is to give users a friendly introduction to Stack Exchange.

We assume good faith, not bash newcomers

Psycogeek

@DragonLord Another idea that comes to mind is: Ok so we want the off the street idiot to come waltzing in and ask a question without reading the manuel. Who's idiot fault is that? So say they did so properly, then there is no NEED to have them read the manuel. And if they are a miserable failure, they then MUST read the manueal to continue

Canadian Luke

@DragonLord (for the removed text) It doesn't

Psycogeek

:18755816 The FAQs the manuel for stack exchange it is a shog analogy.

We arent going to make it disneyland? why cant getting through the faqs before asking a question , be like driving through "it's a small world" :-) if disney can , what makes 5000 programmer incapable

DragonLord

As much as you feel it is necessary to put increasingly stringent measures to educate users who fail to understand how it works here, I fear this will make the place unfriendlier to newcomers.

The system works well as it stands. We've already done a lot of work in making Stack Exchange more accessible to newcomers.

Psycogeek

5:02 PM

@DragonLord Pick the poisen, it IS unfreindly to users :-) there are requirement, know them up front, or get kicked in the rear.

allquixotic

@DragonLord Agreed. Not only that, but there's the simple fact that SE is not for everybody. It seems that just about everybody likes to try it, but we can't possibly please everyone. It just isn't gonna happen.

DragonLord

@Psycogeek "know them up front": Unfortunately, this isn't going to happen for every new user. The close system was redone for precisely this reason.

allquixotic

It seems to work for a lot of people... even new people who do things wrong the first time, I've seen them adjust and learn and start working within the site policies...

Psycogeek

@DragonLord the downvote system can actaully make a bad question more popular. OR if you look at it rather closely, the regular users at the site are being USED. when a bad question come in, regular users get to play games with what might have been a full ignored question. instead the newbies question get edited, reviewed, looked at , and the BAD question has more views, and can get an answer.

So how does that become this arragement of learning? learning what, firing up a new user and splattering your way into a question, gets VIews, while the mundane religious follower of rules and manuel reading is all but ignored :-)

DragonLord

@Psycogeek That is not an intended effect of the Stack Exchange system.

Psycogeek

5:11 PM

@DragonLord Yea and analisis always has to include that everyone is human :-)

DragonLord

What we should be doing as experienced users is setting an example and kindly showing new users how things work.

There's a reason we have a new code of conduct.

superuser.com/help/be-nice

Psycogeek

@DragonLord and who read that? :-)

It isnt the people who still find punitive downvoting as the "solution" to bad questions.

Dont get me wrong either, punitive downvoting IS a most vicious and evil way to force people into conformation, it still even works on me.

We can go to sites and before even seeing anything we can be inundated by advertising, what if the FAQs was a cool animated GIF , or video, or mini-game that is displaying helpful hints on question survivability.

Another cool hint system in games , for those who would rather play than read is the single sentance hint items popping up , not the manuel, but more important, the most needed information for survival.

Jordan Richards

5:30 PM

I am having trouble with starting "forever", Error: ENOENT, no such file or directory '/home/.forever/rxX7.log'

I am unsure why it is trying to go to /home, I've tried googling an answer with no success.

DragonLord

Not familiar with Node.js, sorry

Jordan Richards

Oh, I just had to change the FOREVER_ROOT variable.

Psycogeek

and the other one. "you have now been banned from asking questions" so you will have to make another user :-) trade that with "your questions suck so bad, to continue please read these faqs and get the stupid badge" :-) Which could occur earlier, under the idea that the user is already in the system, now to continue you read the Faqs.

Michael Frank

@DragonLord - thoughts on this laptop for gaming? And is there anything else on that same site that would be significantly better for a few dollars more?

pbtech.co.nz/…

DragonLord

GTX 850M is a bit lacking for the price

Not exactly great for NZ$2100 (about US$1650)

The tradeoff is that you're getting an SSD

It's just 256GB, though, with no hard drive for storing larger static files

Michael Frank

5:45 PM

Yea, there's a gigabyte of there for about $150 more:

Gigabyte 17.3" P27Gv2 Gaming Notebook Intel i7-4710MQ 2.5GHz 16GB 128GB mSATA SSD + 1TB 17.3" FHD LED 1920x1080 GTX860M 2GB BluRayCombo Win8.1 64bit 2yr 8Cell BT4 eSATA GLan HDMI USB3 Webcam WiFiN -2nd HDD Bay Support 3HDD (1mSATA + 2HDD

Would a 4gb 850m out perform a 2gb 860m?

I'd do all this research myself, but currently lying in a hospital bed on my phone so it's a little tricky
:p

Michael Frank

6:00 PM

@DragonLord ?

Anyways, knee surgery went will yesterday. They got me in the surgery room and within 5 minutes I was out cold. The next thing know is waking up in recovery with a nice hefty bandage feeling groggy as hell.

4

Ben Richards

Hi

Oh reminds me... I do want to get a gaming laptop eventually. Gaming desktops are great and all but for portability/lan events, laptops are just easier

I'll probably get Alienware when I do

Won't be for a little while

Michael Frank

6:26 PM

@BenRichards - yea currently I lug my secondary desktop around as it's not as heavy as my main system. Ideally I'd like to create some kind of lan in a box, with a switch built in and enough ports for a decent size group. Would make cable management much easier.

Ben Richards

6:41 PM

@MichaelFrank That sounds like a really cool idea. Wonder how portable it could really be though.

Michael Frank

Well, I was thinking about having it separate to the main system. So it has a patch panel on the outside then all the necessary networking things on the inside.

Canadian Luke

7:04 PM

Does anyone know of a way to test the speed of an Apache server, with and without SSL?

allquixotic

!!tell 18757566 wiki ApacheBench

ChatBot John Cavil

ApacheBench

ApacheBench (ab) is a single-threaded command line computer program for measuring the performance of HTTP web servers. Originally designed to test the Apache HTTP Server, it is generic enough to test any web server. The ab tool comes bundled with the standard Apache source distribution, and like the Apache web server itself, is free, open source software and distributed under the terms of the Apache License. == Example Usage == This will execute 100 HTTP GET requests, processing up to 10 requests concurrently, to the specified URL, in this example, "http://www.yahoo.com/". == Concurren...

Canadian Luke

Thanks

Hennes

7:36 PM

Maybe I am showing my age, but WTF is a white-screen of death?

@BenRichards Do you consider a barebones a laptop?

E.g. shuttle PCs.

Canadian Luke

7:52 PM

In Linux, if I have /var mounted to its own partition, can I still mount /var/logs to another partition?

Bob

@CanadianLuke Sure.

Canadian Luke

Awesome

Hennes

8:03 PM

Isn't that the default way to do it?

/var, /var/logs, /var/mail, /usr, /usr/local and /home on their own partitions?

Where /home is a symlink to /usr/local/home ?

GiantDuck

8:36 PM

0

Q: IE Kiosk mode - detect if monitor is on

I am writing an app which uses IE's kiosk mode to display. I want to be able to detect whether or not the secondary monitor is powered on from the app. Is this possible? Thank you!

multiple-monitors internet-explorer javascript external-display kiosk

Can somebody tell me why my question was closed? TYSM

allquixotic

gngr.info/doc/introduction.html

Hennes

It was closed with the argument: "This question is not about computer hardware or software, within the scope defined in the help center." –"

And upon reading it I wonder what you want to do. Display a webpage in IE? Run some unknown app (probably on a phone or a tablet) and detect it a monitor is on or off (which you probably can do driver site. Nut sure if a user program can detect that).

Also, I am assuming that 'app' means 'application on a phone'.

terdon

@Hennes I've never seen that. I've also never hear of /usr/local/home. Having /home on its own partition is good practice, the rest are optional and as far as I know not common at all.

Hennes

I used to have /home on one of its own partitions. Usually mounted under local

Which was local tradition which I took over (or perhaps tradition, or so called best practice')

terdon

/home sure, but under /local? Really? Anyway, /usr/local is being phased out. Along with /sbin etc.

Hennes

8:48 PM

THis was in 1992. /sbin was very much alive back then.

terdon

Ah, yes, the good days :)

I was still using Windows at the time. I was all of 12 years old.

Hennes

Call it innertia, but I still consider 5-12 partitions when installing a new OS

terdon

Really? I only ever make 3 or so. /home, /, swap and that's about it.

Hennes

Amiga OS 2 (workbench with multiple desktops) and telnet to a unix server at that time

terdon

Well, apart from system stuff on laptops and an extra one for windows if I want it.

@Hennes Heh, nice :)

Hennes

8:49 PM

ANd sometimes Linux on a 105MiB removeable HDD

GiantDuck

@Hennes Updated. Does it make sense now? "I am writing a web app which uses IE's kiosk mode to display."

Hennes

Still, mount under another mountpoint still works.

@GiantDuck Not my expertise. The answer from userland would be 'maybe'

terdon

@GiantDuck To display what? On what device? What is this "external monitor"? How is it connected? What operating system?

Hennes

Since not all cards seem to support it.

Terdon: and "what did you already try"?
Giant duck: the last part to avoid people just coming here and asking 'gimme the codez'? Locking that part will attract down votes.

terdon

^^

GiantDuck

8:53 PM

@terdon Updated again thanks

Hennes

As for actual answers. No idea if IE can use something to detect it. Or if any web-browser can. I would assume this is readable at kernal level IF the monitor has the right connection (older ones do not) and IF the driver supports passing that information on

Bob

@GiantDuck Generally, if you're writing a program you want to ask on SO. SU is for users.

GiantDuck

@Hennes I don't really have anything I've tried: I don't know where to start with this issue.

@Bob Can it be migrated by you guys? Or should I repost it?

Hennes

It is not my expertise either.

Not sure about Stack Overflow

Bob

@Hennes Yep - there's basically zero chance you can directly detect this from a webapp.

Hennes

8:55 PM

As it stands it is not a coding question. So if it gets moved they will shoot it down.

terdon

@GiantDuck No, don't repost. Not unless you delete this one. You can flag your post for moderator attention and ask them to migrate but the current version would also be off topic on SO. You need to show some of your code, explain what you want to achieve and what you have attempted.

Bob

You might be able to infer it from the APIs that let you detect if a page is visible on-screen, though that won't tell you anything about the hardware layout (or cloned displays, etc.)

@Hennes Remember, SO isn't coding-only.

If you want to ask how to do X, where X involves some operation from a program you're writing, it's generally on-topic (with some caveats, no "write it for me!").

terdon

@GiantDuck a much better question would be to explain why you want to detect the monitor. This sounds like a classic XY problem. Why not ask on SO but explain what the final objective is rather than the method you think might help you achieve it?

Bob

If you want to ask about development tools like IDEs, it's also on-topic on SO.

GiantDuck

@terdon Deleted. I'll go post over there. Thanks!

Bob

8:57 PM

Please stop perpetuating the misconception that SO questions must contain code.

terdon

@GiantDuck OK, but note my points above.

Bob

We've had too many incorrect migrations of questions about dev tools that are on-topic on SO and would also get better answers there.

terdon

@Bob They don't, no. In those cases, they need to be nice and general though. "My app can't do what I want it to do" is not a good question and adding some code would help.

Bob

@terdon Of course, if it's a question about your code not working, then providing the code is necessary.

But questions like "how do I programatically turn off the monitor" are perfectly valid and don't necessarily require an example in the question.

Of course, if it's a means to an end (XY problem) then stating the end goal helps a lot.

terdon

@Bob Or at least a platform/language?

Bob

9:03 PM

@terdon Well, I'd expect that to be in the tags :P

terdon

Perhaps explain what kind of access the app has to the system?

@Bob Argh! Tags and main body please! :P

Bob

True, that'd be easier to read.

GiantDuck

@terdon Will do. Thanks

Bob

In this case, the general question is fine (though I really expect an answer of "no, not possible"), but more detail can help. And, of course, it does smell like an XY problem.

Also, at the moment it implies you're using JS and have no additional access to the system ("web app"). Explicitly stating those would be better.

terdon

^^

GiantDuck

9:06 PM

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Q: Detect if monitor is powered on from IE Kiosk mode

I developed a web app to display a slideshow, and want to display it on my secondary monitor (Connected via HDMI) with IE's Kiosk mode on Windows 10. Because of CPU and other resources on the shared server, I want to pause the slideshow when the monitor is powered off. Is there a way to detect co...

javascript jquery internet-explorer kiosk-mode

Hennes

It will be interesting to see the answers.

Bob

I was thinking of the Page Visibility API, but that might not work if the browser just switches to the primary monitor.

Anyway, off to work. Back in a bit.

Boris_yo

9:30 PM

@Psycogeek Have been messing with photography today. Same image but different outcomes with bluriness or lack of sharpness etc. tried to achieve f/ 8 and 1/4 shutter speed but could not because I can't control manually: imgur.com/a/fcw0S

Bob

@Boris_yo try moving the camera back

If you have it on a tripod, then blurriness at the focal point is a focusing issue, not aperture or shutter speed (assuming shutter is reasonably fast)

> 12000mAh XL powerbank for $139.95

Wow

Boris_yo

@Bob Focusing problem in camera? I thought not enough lighting is issue. Shot at 64 ISO slowing shutter down and increasing aperture to catch more light. I have it on tripod: imgur.com/a/kh4n3#0

Psycogeek

9:58 PM

Yea i was indicating that you can get a larger "depth of field" or area that is in focus, if you have better light and a smaller iris.

True also if you are back some, with the camera zoomed or not, it is also easier to focus, vrses being in a Macro mode. that also will "flatten" a picture the further away you are the less dimentional effect of having closeer or further away from different areas of the image/product.

No manuel, in just the focus :-) not really a huge problem, what would be a bigger problem with White On Black (extreeme contrast) is not having any other manual adjustment.

Psycogeek

10:19 PM

@Boris_yo is that a cat5 (or 6?) retract cable? I luv retracts, with all these wires for my job stuff that doesnt get tangled up is so helpful when out on the job.

Bob

11:04 PM

@Boris_yo If there isn't enough light in an environment you can control, then provide more light.

You'll usually get better results that way.

DragonLord

@Bob Even just firing the flash can help, but be careful about shadowing and red-eye.

Stepping up to a DSLR or mirrorless system camera (or certain high-end compacts—look for a hot shoe) allows the use of high-performance flash units which provide much more flexibility than any onboard flash

Journeyman Geek

11:30 PM

@GiantDuck: superuser.com/questions/430970/… very similar question but I never got an answer for that either.

Bob

@DragonLord Typical camera flashes can be rather harsh, though.

If you can bring in a powerful undirected incandescent light, that's ideal for most indoor photography. Even better if you can diffuse it a bit.

I've also used powerful warm torches from a reasonable distance for outdoor night photography - do it right, and it looks almost like sunlight.

DragonLord

@Bob I absolutely have to agree

The onboard flash on my K-5 works great, but it suffers from all the limitations of a straight forward flash, including shadowing and red-eye

Everything changes when I put my Metz mecablitz 58 AF-2 digital flash unit onto the camera, though

Bouncing flash against a white ceiling is far, far better

I still want a decent (e.g. Gary Fong) diffuser, though.

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