Root Access

Tanner

12:04 AM

O_o peculiar

Hennes

zipping it results in the same sizes.

Tanner

Time to invent a new compression algorithm?

Hennes

Wondering why it is not doing anything with the same file patterns.

I expect the file not to grow when I added a copy

Journeyman Geek

2:27 AM

Hmm. I'm impressed. Someone else did a presentation without a script on hand

(In class. Group presentations are usually boring

Journeyman Geek

3:02 AM

And.... Stirring shit up :p.

I probably should not ask the next group anything. Lecturer is playing bad cop with the last group

Journeyman Geek

6:53 AM

/me sets a tumbleweed on fire

Bob

Journeyman Geek

lol

dumb question, but do memory ranks need to be filled in some order?

I'm going to troubleshoot my old desktop, and I'm wondering if I can move ram from one slot to another to test

Bob

7:14 AM

uhh

some MBs say slot 1 needs to have a DIMM in it

check your manual

though I'm pretty sure mine said that and booted with just a stick in slot 3, though

Bob

8:11 AM

HackToHell

8:43 AM

tombull89

can someone get a shot of the deleted answer on this question? superuser.com/questions/518275/how-to-detect-a-usb-rubber-ducky

Journeyman Geek

Bob

@JourneymanGeek nice theme :P

HackToHell

how did you integrate the navigation toolbar and tab bar like ie ?

Journeyman Geek

lol

oneliner

addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/prospector-oneLiner

Bob

8:54 AM

tombull89

@JourneymanGeek okay. Someone get this guy a tin-foil hat.

Bob

@tombull89 tin-foil isn't enough

nothing less than sheet lead for this guy

Journeyman Geek

I assume thats what you wanted

tombull89

Yes, thanks.

Journeyman Geek

there was another deleted answer

but not as lultastic

HackToHell

8:59 AM

Bob

what is this...

0

Q: Unable to copy multiple usb's to work on PCand MAC

We have created a website to run off a USB for a client. The client wants to distribute these USB websites nationwide for both MAC and PC users so we have to duplicate a couple thousand USBs, no biggie. I am using a Aleratec 1:21 USB duplicator Cruiser. Using the software to duplicate USB's has ...

usb

uhh.. website on a flash drive?

uhh... disk cloning utilities renaming files for some reason?

uhh.. what?

Sathya

9:20 AM

@HackToHell ololol

@Bob O_o

tombull89

9:32 AM

@Bob surely the defention of a website is to run...on the web?

I'd reject it, personally.

Bob

@tombull89 well, I could see a local testing site... but... on a flash drive is odd enough, and to be distributed to thousands that way just screams I have no idea what I'm doing

also, exe? app? that ain't a website.

Sathya

pardon the swears but what the fucking fuck.

6

Bob

WUT

the comments.. what is this I don't even

tombull89

@Sathya "what the fucking fuck" doesn't ever cover it.

Bob

it's not April yet, is it?

tombull89

9:40 AM

6 upvotes, 7 favs? wtf?

Sathya

I don't know whether I should be crying at the question or at the answers or at the comments or at the jokers who upvoted that crap

Bob

@Sathya you should just close gemsfromstackexchange. this wins.

slhck

@Sathya Okay, WHAT the hell is this.

Sathya

@Bob a-frigging-men

slhck

This already made my day and it's just quarter to 11.

tombull89

9:49 AM

Is this an Indian thing? I've noticed a couple of...odd...things in WorkPlace, an area 51 dating and relationships proposal, etc.

Journeyman Geek

er

I blame movies ;p

and a whole unrealistic portrayal of romance

Sathya

Movies + society

HackToHell

@Sathya translations please ;p

Sathya

don't understand telugu

HackToHell

oh it's telgu :/

Journeyman Geek

9:55 AM

damn

my dog is sitting on my chair so I cannot mo ve it

HackToHell

10:33 AM

True orbit of planets i.minus.com/iAtC2afkODS6U.gif

Bob

@HackToHell relative to what?

HackToHell

aether maybe ;p

Bob

...

-________________-

stupid luminiferous ether thingo

maybe two centuries ago :P

HackToHell

relative to what :P

Time is relative too :P

imgur.com/a/GRsFN

HackToHell

11:00 AM

This is just amazing ! youtube.com/results?search_query=do+the+harlem+shake

Bob

11:24 AM

...

Photosensitive Seizure Warning
A very small percentage of people may experience a seizure when exposed to certain visual images, including flashing lights or patterns, such as the ones generated by this demo when viewed on some hardware and browser combinations. Even people who have no history of seizures or epilepsy may have an undiagnosed condition that can cause these "photosensitive epileptic seizures". These seizures may have a variety of symptoms, including lightheadedness, altered vision, eye or face twitching, jerking or shaking of arms or legs, disorientation, confusion, or momenta…

HackToHell

@Bob o0 ????

Bob

@HackToHell that harlem shake thingo

Sathya

> Just you have to check the VGA cable that is proper or not and after that you have to check the place where you kept your Computer because this tings happen due to the Magnetic waves or any power fluctuation also you just

...

apparently lot of people forget to complete their answers

you seem to have forgotten to complete your answer — Sathya 42 secs ago

HackToHell

It does not show that for me , did you click a video ?

It's a youtube easter egg

Bob

@HackToHell no, I'm saying that message should be there

HackToHell

11:33 AM

@Bob u photosensitive ?

Bob

@HackToHell no, but that could potentially be an issue

what?

Isn't it triggered by more rave videos like ^^

and not harlem thingy

Bob

it could be triggered by things that seem relatively minor to us

most 'harlem shake' videos would probably be fine

text vibrating/shaking/darting around the screen like that is often not fine

HackToHell

11:36 AM

Ah, you know someone with that syndrome, It would hard for someone with that syndrome to browse the internet effectively

Bob

there's plenty of static pages, and even pages with some animations, that would be fine

it's a pity we can't have some effective warning mechanism, though

HackToHell

yeah, eater eggs can be especially dangerous for them

Bob

even an standardised HTML meta tag or something, then people could have an option to display warnings enabled/disabled in browsers

hm

there seems to be somehting

HackToHell

Or an software that scans the video output and shuts down the monitor when it senses abnormal patterns of colour

Bob

not necessarily colour

apparently, mostly flashing

I guess if you had a low enough refresh rate, though that would kill most animations

HackToHell

11:41 AM

Then it's easier for a program to detect .. hopefully ....

There seems to be one actually trace.wisc.edu/peat

Bob

yea, but that's for developers

I highly doubt the majority of developers care

HackToHell

And you are a developer ;p

Bob

...not really

well, not for web

I dunno

:P

HackToHell

> Hazardous, seizure-inducing content has been inadvertently broadcast on television in the past, causing mass seizures in children.

Scary !!

HackToHell

12:10 PM

omg ! steamcommunity.com/id/dota2bot/inventory/#753

23k dota 2 invites !

user58869

12:22 PM

is super user a site where I could ask a question about office 2013 preview licensing? I've had it installed since October last year and it seems to work fine and never prompts me to buy office 2013, does office 2013 come with windows 8 pro? or do I need to buy office 2013?

HackToHell

You must buy Office 2013 or subscribe to Office 365 in w8

user58869

hmmm, am i doing anything wrong by continuing to use the office 2013 preview? shoudn't it prompt me to buy or subscribe to something? it hasn't done that

HackToHell

@axrwkr neowin.net/news/…

user58869

so I can just carry on using it and it will eventually prompt me to buy or subscribe. thanks for that

HackToHell

12:46 PM

Journeyman Geek

lol

Oliver Salzburg

Argh! I asked a client for their PowerPoint master, so that I could prepare a presentation... it uses em dashes in place of dashes O__O

Bah!

slhck

@OliverSalzburg In place of en-dashes or in place of hyphens?

Oliver Salzburg

@slhck Hyphens O__O

They also use stuff like "word -word" instead of "word-word" or "word - word"

slhck

@OliverSalzburg Like, to separate words at the end of a line?

What a weird style.

Oliver Salzburg

12:57 PM

@slhck Like to separate the extension from the phone number

It's not a "style" :D It's just nobody caring

slhck

@OliverSalzburg Oh gawd.

Oliver Salzburg

This presentation is part of an Office training session... How fitting :P

slhck

I mean, I love the em dash, but it has nothing to do in German :P

Oliver Salzburg

Office replaces hyphens with em dashes automatically in some cases. People just never notice

slhck

Well, it makes an en dash out of two hyphens, which makes sense. And an en dash if you do something - like this.

But I've never seen it make em dashes?

I'd rather have Word just stop autocorrecting everything :P

Oliver Salzburg

1:01 PM

Maybe they aren't em dashes after all...

slhck

Probably ens. At least that's what I know Office likes to do.

Reminds me of the time I wanted to enter "dna" into a cell in Excel and it kept replacing it with "dann".

Oliver Salzburg

@slhck That must be it then

slhck

And I'd go back to fix it to "dna" and it would auto-correct it again.

Oliver Salzburg

Tell me about i, I use US Office... :D

Sometimes I write perfectly fine, German, sentences and Outlook will completely mess them up with auto-corrections

And the second I switch to German, I have to write an English mail

slhck

Haha

Yeah, it's quite a pain to be a German who likes to use English software.

Oliver Salzburg

1:05 PM

True :D

I was also blown away when I looked up the correct German term for dashes just now

Geviertstrich

Der Geviertstrich (—) ist in der Typografie ein waagerechter Strich, der ein Geviert lang ist. Er wird verwendet als Spiegelstrich und in Tabellen sowie als Gedankenstrich in verschiedenen Sprachen wie dem Englischen und dem Spanischen. Andere waagerechte Striche sind das Minuszeichen, der Viertelgeviertstrich, der Halbgeviertstrich und der Doppelgeviertstrich. Verwendung Der sehr lange Geviertstrich wird oft als störend empfunden, da seine Verwendung durch die Länge des Striches recht große „Löcher“ in einen Text reißt. Daher wird er im Deutschen kaum noch verwendet. Als Spiegelstri...

It took me a few attempts to even understand the word O__o

slhck

@OliverSalzburg Yeah. Remember where typesetting was invented :P

English probably has the most confusing rules for dashes.

Oliver Salzburg

Damn. I just realized our company made that PowerPoint master :D

slhck

lol

Oliver Salzburg

Someone is getting a free 2.0 upgrade as it seems :P

Bob

@slhck hit ctrl+z just after an autocorrect (or whatever undo is on OS X)

or just turn off autocorrect altogether :P

@OliverSalzburg can't you set a language for a single document? heck, for a single character...

Oliver Salzburg

1:15 PM

@Bob Not to my knowledge

It's been a while since I looked into it. But as far as I remember, I could install the German language pack, or not install it

slhck

@Bob That erases the cell :P

Bob

@slhck gah. works on Word

Oliver Salzburg

@Bob In Word, it's a lot easier to switch languages. My main focus was Outlook

Bob

come to think of it, I've never had anything autocorrected on Excel

not did it have a spellcheck at all, last I checked

@OliverSalzburg doesn't it use Word as the editor?

Oliver Salzburg

Word works very well in this regard actually. It detects which language I currently use and adjusts automatically

@Bob Not to the extent that it would have an impact on this. Unless I missed something! :D

Bob

1:18 PM

o.O

Oliver Salzburg

I'd be happy to learn that I overlooked options

Bob

I just discovered Excel has autocorrect... wtf...

@OliverSalzburg sorry, can't help you there. I don't use Outlook at home

Oliver Salzburg

Outlook uses Word for HTML rendering. I know that for a fact

Bob

:P

Oliver Salzburg

@Bob I only use it at work, but it's the same thing here :P

Bob

1:19 PM

Word + HTML = FML

Oliver Salzburg

@Bob Given that it's the default renderer in Outlook, it matters if you do email marketing. :(

Bob

I remember I had a series of regexes saved somewhere to strip Word's tags

Oliver Salzburg

I use Word + DreamWeaver + Expression Web Studio and lots of <table><table><table><table><table><table><table> to handle those jobs :P

Bob

don't have Dreamweaver installed at work, unfortunately

and notepad++'s built in Word HTML cleaner breaks things

as does the couple of online services I tried

it was easier just to run a couple of regexes against <w:[^>]*> or whatever it was

Oliver Salzburg

I wonder if there's some hidden nuggets within the word-specific markup

As in, something cool that would only work in Outlook/Word

slhck

1:24 PM

@Bob Word's built in HTML cleaner. What an oxymoronic sentence.

What I've always wondered: Is there a figure of speech for talking in figures of speech?

2

Bob

part of Notepad++

Word has no such cleaner :P

TiDy clean Microsoft Word 2000 document

yea, it's rather outdated

slhck

yup

Bob

cool

codinghorror.com/blog/2006/01/cleaning-words-nasty-html.html

Oliver Salzburg

@slhck Ask on English Language and Usage and be sure to link me ;D

slhck

1:41 PM

@OliverSalzburg lol… either massive downvotes or gets into Hot Questions

Oliver Salzburg

1:57 PM

> ...the group, called Broadband for the Rural North, or B4RN (it's pronounced 'barn')...

I bet somewhere in the US there's someone with the official job title "Acronym Designer"

Bob

lol

slhck

Acronyms for university projects are also fun.

Our cooperative systems group is called "Cosy"

Journeyman Geek

2:17 PM

my mouse is giving trouble

though ROCCAT's support is awesome

user973810

Thanks for the interesting article about word and html.

Journeyman Geek

@OliverSalzburg: naw, there's a half mad military AI that's spitting out those acronyms

and begging for death

Oliver Salzburg

:D

Bob

@JourneymanGeek WOPR?

RIPLEY?

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

3

I love that

Virus Venn Diagram

HackToHell

2:31 PM

Thing is modern viruses do no cause any problems ;p

Journeyman Geek

lol

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

That would be bad design.

Journeyman Geek

they usually don't break things badly

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

Keep the user in the dark for as long as possible

HackToHell

adwares on the other hand sigh

Bob

2:40 PM

@William'MindWorX'Mariager Perfect! I complain about this every time I see a question/answer suggesting that without good reason...

btw, you can onebox the xkcd link directly. better than the image link, since you still get the mouseover text

Within five minutes of the Singularity appearing, somebody will suggest defragging it.

slhck

2

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

I actually knew that. How I'd forget, I don't know.

slhck

Just made myself an espresso and wanted to show off :p

Bob

lol

nice :P

slhck

First time free pouring a macchiato o/

Oliver Salzburg

2:43 PM

@slhck Mission completed!

slhck

Actually the coffee itself tastes like crap (because I let it run for too long) but at least it looks nice, right? (That's the Starbucks principle™)

Journeyman Geek

lol

Oliver Salzburg

2:56 PM

> The password you have chosen contains illegal characters.

Why?

Tanner

@slhck cappuccino?

slhck

@Tanner Espresso macchiato. A cappuccino would use more milk :)

Tanner

Isn't that mug too big to be a macchiato? I thought those were like 2oz

(Note: I'm not really a coffee snob. There's just a really, really awesome local coffee shop =D)

Oliver Salzburg

Searching through stock images is awesome

Tanner

Oh the things we could photoshop in to her hand...

Sathya

3:07 PM

can you guys access this site? barcampbangalore.org

Oliver Salzburg

@Sathya Yeah, quick response as well

Sathya

@OliverSalzburg alright, thanks

slhck

@tanner I don't know how many oz that is, but it's really just a single espresso and a shot of microfoamed milk.

Perspective probably :)

@Sathya Can you suspend superuser.com/users/203393/kevinshmein, just on my mobile

Sathya

@slhck yep, done

slhck

Thanks :p

Bob

3:21 PM

@OliverSalzburg ah, those

lemme guess, no indication which characters aren't allowed?

Those 'your password isn't allowed to contain' rules generally worry me: if it was being hashed, then that shouldn't matter. On the other hand... well, it still shouldn't matter :P

Oliver Salzburg

@Bob My point exactly

Why are there any restrictions in the first place?

The only restriction I ever placed on people was a max length

slhck

Maybe because they only use Latin encoding or something

Bob

@OliverSalzburg even that's a bit odd

slhck

(or some other stupid way of hashing)

Bob

@slhck but.. that shouldn't matter

as long as you use the same encoding every time, it won't make a difference

the hash is supposed to be one-way anyway

slhck

3:28 PM

Well, yeah, true

Bob

@OliverSalzburg I mean.. the hash is a constant length anyway.. so unless it's so long that a string variable can't hold it all.. O.O

(and I'm hoping you aren't using a constant size char array :P)

slhck

Wouldn't be surprised if the password is a VARCHAR(8)

Bob

...that's only if they stored it as plain text

slhck

I know

Just kidding :P

Rudá Almeida

I grab a really old DVD with lots of MP3's and play it on random. What does it start playing? Village People .____.

Bob

3:31 PM

AFAIK all commonly used password hashing algorithms generate a constant-sized output

Oliver Salzburg

@Bob We used bcrypt in the application, which imposes a max length on the input. I could have just cut off the user-supplied input, but I didn't want to give the user a false impression of security when he provides a longer password.

Bob

@OliverSalzburg oh. what's the max?

(I find it odd that there's a max at all...)

Oliver Salzburg

@Bob I think it was 16

Bob

wow

what bcrypt library are you using?

Oliver Salzburg

But testing the validity of 1 hash takes like 10 seconds :D

Bob

3:34 PM

1

Q: Using SHA hashing to allow for longer bcrypt inputs

I'm looking at the various bcrypt implementations across several languages and noticing the character limitation across most - specifically, the 72 character maximum that node-bcrypt, php's bcrypt, and py-bcrypt all exhibit. What are the advantages and disadvantages if an application were to run...

cryptography bcrypt

72 for PHP's one, apparently

@OliverSalzburg well, that's a lot of rounds

Oliver Salzburg

@Bob None actually, I don't remember where the source came from

Bob

here we go

21

Q: Pre-hash password before applying bcrypt to avoid restricting password length

Good practice is not to unnecessarily restrict password length, so that appropriately-long passphrases (perhaps 35-45 chars for 6/7 dicewords) can be used. (See e.g. Should I have a maximum password length? where a maximum of 1K is suggested, to protect against DoS without restricting users' abil...

cryptography passwords hash passphrase

Rudá Almeida

I'm running apache on ubuntu. If I try to browse to a local address that's not on etc/hosts, it shows the nginx welcome page. service --status-all won't show nginx running. WTF?!

Oliver Salzburg

@Bob Those aren't characters though, but bytes

Just wanted to note that :P

Bob

ah..

Oliver Salzburg

3:37 PM

So for us, that was 72/4=18 IIRC

Bob

anyways, apparently it's fine to just SHA hash the password before passing it into bcrypt

@OliverSalzburg wtf.. UTF-32?

Oliver Salzburg

@Bob Sounds like that would have been a smart move

@Bob You have to expect the worst :P

WikiWitz

hi guys!

@everyone How can I get unbanned from stack?

Bob

@OliverSalzburg I hope you mean you're using UTF-8 and expecting up to 4-byte characters

and not directly using UTF-32..

Tanner

@WikiWitz lol what'd you do? :P

WikiWitz

3:40 PM

it's been like a year

just got a rejected question and poof!

i was new then...

Tanner

So you're question banned?

Bob

182

Q: What can I do when getting "Sorry, we are no longer accepting questions/answers from this account"?

Do not repost the question you were about to ask until you have READ EVERYTHING WE ARE ABOUT TO TELL YOU. While trying to ask a question, one could get: Oops! Your question couldn't be submitted because: Sorry, we are no longer accepting questions from this account. See http://go...

support faq asking-questions post-ban

WikiWitz

yeah

Tanner

@Bob Yeah that

Oliver Salzburg

@Bob I'm not using anything. But when you work with an algorithm that processes 72 bytes of text input, then it could be a worst case of only 18 characters, so the text input element was limited to 18 characters. That's basically the whole story :P

Bob

3:43 PM

@WikiWitz Are you only talking about Stack Overflow?

Do you have any deleted questions there?

A question ban for a single -3/closed question seems odd...

WikiWitz

@bob yeah only SO

i don't remember any deleted question

Sathya

@Bob guessing there are deleted posts there

Bob

You could try deleting that -3 question

15

A: I apparently got question-banned for deleting some of my old, zero-upvoted questions. Is there a better way to handle these?

So long as your self-deleted questions are more than 30 days old at the time of deletion, they no longer count against you. This is necessary because of a large contingent of abusive users that ask, then delete, and re-ask. (More philosophically, asking lots and lots of questions that nobody ca...

WikiWitz

@Bob like I deleted them or mods did?

Bob

@WikiWitz if they were deleted at all

though this was never answered:

Does this apply to votes against the post as well? Say the user has a self-deleted post 31 days old, with -6. The self delete no longer counts against him, but what about the -6? Is that still taken into an account? Or is the question in its entirely gets ignored? — Madara Uchiha Feb 8 at 22:47

WikiWitz

3:46 PM

@bob I can't delete it, it says something like "call mods attention instead..."

Bob

oh yea. you have upvoted answers on that...

Sathya

0

Q: How to clean low-quality content?

I agree that I posted low quality content but I did it to solve real technical problems which all are solved now. Now I don't have actual technical problems but I wanted to ask about MIPS processors here but now this site no longer accepts questions from me because of this specific question ("How...

discussion support specific-question user-accounts

allquixotic

WTF Monster

Bob

lol

that question... I wasn't sure how to respond when I first saw it

allquixotic

years ago I put my resume out on monster.com and I've been getting these emails from Monster saying that soandso is hiring, and most of the positions they find are for these REALLY senior level people serving very niche purposes in like, shipbuilding technical director, VP of engineering, etc

I don't know how they could see me as being even remotely qualified for that

Bob

3:50 PM

@WikiWitz I'm not too sure what you can do in this case...

Question bans are finicky. You are expected to try to improve exiting posts to lift the ban..

WikiWitz

@ bob I believe it was a spam ban thought

*though

Bob

You could try posting on Meta Stack Overflow about it, I guess, since your situation isn't exactly easy to recover from

but don't go in expecting someone to clear your ban for you

at this point, you're more asking for advice on how you can clear the ban, start with a clean slate (and maybe figure out just how many deleted questions you have hanging over your head; a mod on SO should be able to see)

Sathya

ban's automated, not manual

Bob

@Sathya yea, but he only has one question he can edit

which isn't really improvable

the permanency of question bans bothers me a bit.. it's all too easy to be banned for unrecoverable questions early on, and then find it difficult if not impossible to get unbanned (unrecoverable and/or deleted makes it impossible to improve)

though I guess you'd have to mess up quite a lot before the ban kicks in

slhck

It takes quite a bit if posting crap to be banned honestly

allquixotic

3:55 PM

@Bob it's also all too easy to change your IP or go through a proxy and make a new account

slhck

sshhhhhh :P

allquixotic

no matter how much crafty detection they try, you can change your IP, username, email and make a new account and they have absolutely no way of banning you because they don't know it's you

WikiWitz

@allquixotic nah... proxies are not practically useful in my case (with slow internet)

allquixotic

or they will just make the ban so wide that they'll end up banning legitimate users

slhck

Hey. No cheating.

Bob

3:56 PM

@allquixotic funny thing is, that's what help vampires are more likely to do

fire and forget

long term people who actually want to contribute would probably rather not have to dodge a ban every time :P

allquixotic

@Bob ....and people who are honestly trying to learn and improve are less likely to do that, and more likely to get stuck in @WikiWitz's scenario where he doesn't want to cheat but can't get back into good standing

WikiWitz

@allquixotic somehow I agree with you...

Bob

best thing to do is probably try MSO first, and maybe email the admins as a last resort..

WikiWitz

@bob and the admins are....

allquixotic

I wonder if it's possible to get answer banned at my level with the number of answers and upvotes and badges I have... I mean I guess if I posted about 300 horrible downvoted/deleted answers I might get banned

Bob

3:59 PM

@WikiWitz you can find the email address at the contact us links on the bottom of every page

but that's really last resort

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