Just flagged a commend and it disappeared before my eyes! Never had that happen before.
@El'endiaStarman I can highly recommend the app YNAB (except that they changed from a one-off purchase to a subscription model). It is extremely helpful for us keeping to our budget
I have looked around the site for related questions, and I found some good contextual information for Corinthians, but why does Paul say that women must be under men in Timothy, as well as they must be silent?
In 1 Corinthians 14, Paul give forbids women from speaking in church.
1 Corinthians 14 NIV
34 Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to
speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. 35 If they want to
inquire about something, they should ask their own husb...
"Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church." (1 Corinthi...
In 1 Corinthians 14 Paul says that women must be silent in churches and ask questions to their husbands when they get home:
Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. If they want to inquire about something, they shou...
@Mr.Bultitude I appreciate this nuanced take on the politics and sociology of this past election season. I especially appreciate the fact that I now know that conservatives generally fall into three camps; that'll help me understand arguments and ideas I come across in the future.
@El'endiaStarman and @curiousdannii Unless it offers some kind of speedboat features, I favor a spreadsheet of my own design, which I can easily manage on Google docs.
@Mr.Bultitude I haven't read your whole post yet because I keep getting hung up on you using the word phenomenon to describe Trump's support and win in the election.
I don't think there was anything particularly unique about his level of support or his win (in relation to the fact that he's very different). it's happened before and I bet it'll happen again too.
So far, I'm not sure I buy "authoritarian conservatism" as a real thing either.
There's plenty of "obedient liberals" too, they just frame it in different terms especially focusing on "social morality".
They both argue that "do the right thing" is the most important point. Naturally, they argue on whatever the right thing actually is. But they both follow a laid out ideology all the same.
Okay, back to the article now.
I think you hit it with populism. The politics of ancient Rome is filed with populism. Very interesting how people rose to and fell from power in that environment.
> Surprise! Turns out there are authoritarians in both parties, and they largely fell in line after the primaries.
And that's why I stopped talking when I did. This has happened more than once to me. I start commenting on a post before I've read the whole thing only to find that our conclusions are the same.
@fredsbend Sometimes when that happens I think it's more the fault of the post than the commenter. I may revise the post to reflect that Stenner is pretty clear in believing that authoritarianism is not properly considered a form of conservatism.
@fredsbend I think populism might be a good explanation of Trump's rise in the primaries, but fails as an explanation of his general election victory.
@fredsbend Maybe I'll revise that part too. But it makes sense to me to call it that given how surprised most people were. Even if the conclusion is, partly, that his support wasn't that unremarkable, that conclusion is still an explanation of what was previously a mystery.
In 1 Corinthians 14 Paul says that women must be silent in churches and ask questions to their husbands when they get home:
Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. If they want to inquire about something, they shou...
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