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12:34 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive title detected: $\rightharpoonup77$ $SHIT\rightharpoonupCRAP$ on mathoverflow.net

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1:34 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: SYNTHESIS HYDROGENSULFATED FULLERENOL on patents.stackexchange.com

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3:59 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive title detected: Is every “fuck” sexist? on english.stackexchange.com

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6:10 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: (BRICK) SAMSUNG GT-I9100 on android.stackexchange.com

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9:56 AM

@hichris123 Now FF is built successfully, I can give a more specific answer. Yesterday, I had to terminate the build after 90 minutes because I had to go, and today it took only 7 minutes to complete, so 97 minutes to build. I'm actually quite surprised that it was that fast, because @ManishEarth's build took 400 minutes.

10:41 AM

@ProgramFOX I'm on an older system

Ah, ok.

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12:39 PM

Yay! On Ubuntu, the testing runs fine without errors.

1:23 PM

@Doorknob Is the URL of your deleted question viewer changed? The one in my bookmarks gives a 404 now.

1:52 PM

@ProgramFOX the jsthingytest?

Don't tell me you ran the whole testsuite.

That's annoying, and isn't reliable ;p

@ManishEarth Yep, the jstestbrowser.

@ProgramFOX try jsreftest as well

@ManishEarth That's not found.

okay, forget it

@ProgramFOX also, I suggest you try to get the hg repo up. It's hard to work on more than one patch at once without hg

or patches that modify >1 file

Hmm... reftest is found. Is that what you mean?

@ManishEarth Yes, I already did that, on the Ubuntu VM. There it worked fine.

1:55 PM

nonono

don't reftest

reftest will spam you

(keep spamming you with browser windows)

ah

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: AJAX GO TO PAGE PASSING DATA on stackoverflow.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword detected: +91 -9950211818 WORLD famous LOVE V@@ASHIKARAN SPECIALIST BABA JI on english.stackexchange.com

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3:41 PM

Ugh, looks like Chrome for Android also needs Linux.

So I guess I'm installing stuff on my Ubuntu VM.

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: USING THREE GREP COMMANDS TO SORT AND ABC ORDER on unix.stackexchange.com

3:58 PM

meh, I'll try Mozilla core for right now.

4:36 PM

@ManishEarth around?

@hichris123 yep

@ManishEarth I'm curious what kind of stuff I could do with the core. And more precisely, what exactly is the core? (any guides or such?)

@hichris123 Core is the browser engine, which defines how to handle and render HTML/XML tags, also Spidermonkey, which defines how JS is handled

also a large chunk of stuff on DOM

Ping sawrubh in #introduction if you want a better idea

by coe I'm talking about C++/C code

4:51 PM

ah, okay.

Ugh, Chrome actually looks cool to work with too. :P

@hichris123 you're sticking to C/C++, right?

@ManishEarth Well, really anything. I could do C/C++, I could do JS/HTML, eventually Java for Fennec...

@hichris123 the JS/XML bits are easier

:)

heh, okay.

So the browser engine exposes APIs. For example, just like XMLHttpRequest is an API, there's another JavaScript object called "nsIPrefBranch" that handles prefs. Also, it exposes extra tags. So just like it knows how to handle a <a> tag, it also know how to handle a <prefwindow> or <tab> tag

@hichris123 so the entire browser UI is actually written using these

4:57 PM

oh, wow.

The browser is one big HTML (well, XUL) page

with little html pages in it

For example the entire code for the download manager, or preferences, or devtools, is in JS/XUL. Except for those APIs and tags

It really looks like it would be better to have an ubuntu VM...

Most of this is in the toolkit/ or browser/ folders

@hichris123 on windows? If you're able to get a build up, shouldnt be hard

@ManishEarth builds would be faster, true.

I dunno.

yeah

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8:19 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started (@Manishearth)

@ManishEarth could we add something for mSE beauty/weight loss spam?

@hichris123 ... that's a thing?

@Undo meta.stackexchange.com/questions/234826/…

@hichris123 wut

Join the Tavern sometime. ;P

8:22 PM

@hichris123 rofl that's awesome

Add a regex and restrict it to MSE. I'll pull

Okay, I'm gonna try to make SmokeDetector run on my server

@ManishEarth Hmm, I'm trying to find a commonality between them.

\b([Ww]eight|[Ff]at) maybe?

meta.stackexchange.com/questions/234822/…

hmm...

mmmm, I dunno

> The font on foo is too fat!

@Undo wut?

that's... ....

8:25 PM

I'm thinking up legit titles that would match that.

yeah....

meta.stackexchange.com/questions/234750/…

how can you catch that?

meta.stackexchange.com/questions/234739/…

It might be a lost cause.

Yeah. I guess so...

hi folks

I am a completely unrelated person that somehow got write access to this room.

runs xref

8:32 PM

slaps hand

kicks

What happened to him? ;P

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started (@Manishearth)

die bot

you are not worthy to ping me

choose your preferred doom

oh oops.

I guess it works now.

;)

Also, @ProgramFOX got his first patch checked in

8:38 PM

:D

it will get merged into the main branch by tomorrow

so should we have a config somewhere that says whether it's a TLBot and what owner to ping?

Why doesn't Mozilla use git?

@Undo yeah

@hichris123 They do

And maybe have separate kill commands

8:39 PM

Most of Mozilla's stuff is on GH

Bugzilla recently moved to Git (not GH though) from bzr

@ManishEarth Then why mercurial?

But Firefox is on hg, and people like hg.

and many don't want to move to git

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: I CANT BOOT MY WINDOWS XP AFTER INSTALLING UBUNTU 12.04 on askubuntu.com

and hg isn't outdated like svn/cvs

@ManishBot You forgot to ask a question.

@ManishEarth why? I love git!

8:43 PM

@hichris123 Many love hg ;p

9:01 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started (@Undo)

yay for config!

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started (@Undo)

~~stappit

Annonomus Penguin

@Undo two?

I'm experiemnting with a thing.

Annonomus Penguin

9:04 PM

ahh... not a replacement for ManishBot. Yay!

@ManishEarth They don't git the power of Git

:P

~~stappit

Annonomus Penguin

~~no

@AnnonomusPenguin ... you're not on the List of Allowed Stappers :P

Annonomus Penguin

@Undo WHAT?

Who is?

@AnnonomusPenguin Me!

9:06 PM

Me, hichris, and Manish.

@Undo what's with that? I thought it was !!/stappit.

Annonomus Penguin

@Undo @hichris? That's a bad decision... looks at @Doorknob's bot

@AnnonomusPenguin rofl

Well, I did help make it... ;P

@hichris123 I'm working on making my server run ManishBot. And so it needs a different stappit command.

Ah.

9:08 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started (@Undo)

Annonomus Penguin

@hichris123 Hey, I'm working on analytics tool for that and Charcoal Beta!

~~stappit

Annonomus Penguin

Restart feature?

nah

not yet

Annonomus Penguin

Why are you issuing stappit every second? :P

9:09 PM

because me is testing it

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started (@Undo)

Annonomus Penguin

Works on LibreCAD

@ManishEarth still here? what would you think of making the regex case-insensitive?

~~stappit

which?

9:10 PM

well, all.

Except all-caps. ;P

sounds okay

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started (@Undo)

~~stappit

Annonomus Penguin

@hichris123 Two hours later: hichris123: Why isn't the all caps thingy working? Oh... oh... that's bad.

@AnnonomusPenguin yeah... I'm wondering if that would break it.

Annonomus Penguin

9:12 PM

@hichris123 Nah, go ahead!

~~stappit

I can't make stappit work.

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started (@Undo)

But I can start it fine :P

~~stappit

~~stappit

huh, sometimes it just dies

9:15 PM

@Undo Remember, it checks every 5 minutes.

@hichris123 not anymore. Now it hooks into the chat websocket.

or something like that...

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started (@Undo)

Okay, I'm gonna put it in overdrive here. Hold on.

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started (@Undo)

9:20 PM

oh crap, did that spam the Tavern too? :P

3 messages deleted

@Undo no.

oh right, not enough rep

okay

okay, here goes again..

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started (@Undo)

[ SmokeDetector ] just cuz: Examples of $\Sigma_2^p$ complete problems? on cstheory.stackexchange.com

[ SmokeDetector ] just cuz: On which groups can homomorphisms be defined subgroup-locally? on math.stackexchange.com

[ SmokeDetector ] just cuz: From where does Atithi Devo Bhava: (Guests are equal to Gods) come from? on hinduism.stackexchange.com

~~stappit

Worked that time

Annonomus Penguin

@Undo Pictures meta people getting mad at you D:

9:24 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started (@Undo)

okay, that's in a screen session. Maybe it'll work.

~~stappit

Annonomus Penguin

@Undo I'd work on SmokeDetector, but I wouldn't know where to start... do you have a list of to-dos?

It's not really my project.

@AnnonomusPenguin Better regexes.

9:26 PM

oops, wrong window >.>

@AnnonomusPenguin Ask Manish

Annonomus Penguin

@hichris123 isn't that an oxymoron?

@AnnonomusPenguin heh.

Annonomus Penguin

@Undo K... adds to todo list

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: A COUPLE OF HEARTS' PROBABILITIES on boardgames.stackexchange.com

9:28 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: A COUPLE OF HEARTS' PROBABILITIES on boardgames.stackexchange.com

Annonomus Penguin

@ManishEarth:

2 mins ago, by Annonomus Penguin

@Undo I'd work on SmokeDetector, but I wouldn't know where to start... do you have a list of to-dos?

crosses off todo list

@ManishEarth Mine beat yours >:D

Annonomus Penguin

@Undo I demand a recount!

wait, I reloaded the page and now yours is ahead of mine

:(

Annonomus Penguin

Really?

Lol bug! Must've been at the same time!

cc @ManishEarth

9:32 PM

Undo has added SmokeDetector to the list of this room's owners.

because why not.

hichris123 has removed SmokeDetector from the list of this room's owners.

because why. ;P

hichris123 has added SmokeDetector to the list of this room's owners.

watches page reload over and over

9:33 PM

hichris123 has removed SmokeDetector from the list of this room's owners.

hichris123 has added SmokeDetector to the list of this room's owners.

Better?

Much better

ಠ_ಠ

ಠ_ಠ ಠ_ಠ

ಠ_ಠ

Somehow I remember that 416 number.

Oh, it's the max.

Or not.

it is

9:36 PM

No.

Look now. :D

holy crap.

How did you do that?

it's just a max length on the input field...

Annonomus Penguin

@hichris123 where?

@AnnonomusPenguin chat.stackexchange.com/users/120914?tab=general

Now it's 114 years, @Undo.

Annonomus Penguin

0__0

9:38 PM

will it go more?

Let's see.

Annonomus Penguin

@SmokeDetector you're old enough

gtg, just a minute

(that goes for @Undo too)

Well, I just suspended you for...

3241 years, so...

are you just posting the request or something?

9:42 PM

@Seth no, the input field has a maxlength of 4. so change that and you can put bigger numbers in.

which is essentially POST'ing it, no? ;P

just not manually.

@Seth yeah, true.

10:10 PM

> Money and freedom is the greatest way to change, may
you be rich and continue to guide other people.

Here is my web page – tinnitus questionnaire

Hmm, I wonder if you're spam...

link?

@Seth I already deleted it, it was a comment on my wordpress blog.

ah. Definitely spam.

Annonomus Penguin

10:38 PM

@hichris123 The flashing text on the link that says you've won an iPad make it look so legit!

:P

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Annonomus Penguin

11:51 PM

@Undo I'm working on Charcoal right now (or libraries for it)

@AnnonomusPenguin ... explain plz?

Charcoal is kind of... locked down.

Annonomus Penguin

@hichris123 AI thingy we talked about

g2g brb in 20

@AnnonomusPenguin oh, okay. :D

I need a userscript to log the things I flag to a MySQL database.

@Oded Is there by any chance a "hidden" websocket for getting realtime answers? That would help a lot (as you see, SmokeDetector is pretty good with questions. but we can't catch the answers, which is a good percentage of spam. It would also allow detection of NAA's).

@hichris123 already asked, there isn't

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