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npst

12:00 AM

We're struggling with "Meisterparade" here

BESW

...Oh, dear. Storium just added a private messaging feature.

npst

"Wuchtschlag" mioght suffice as well

Murch

@Airatome Stamina would be what he means.

Airatome

right then

sounded like it from the version of the book I'm reading

I jsut got to the section that talks about 'Combat Talents'

Murch

@npst I have played the fourth edition only once or twice, I am familiar with stamina and the fighting system in general though, I think it stayed very similar to the third edition.

I do have the rulebooks here though, I think

Airatome

12:02 AM

"...Combat Talents are used to Modify the Base Value for Attack, Parry, and Ranged Combat..."

SevenSidedDie

@BESW Is that as bad an idea as it sounds?

BESW

@SevenSidedDie I really suspect it is.

Iron Heart

Hello!

BESW

I'm pretty sure that when the whole point of your service is providing loose structure for collaborative freeform gaming (an enterprise which requires a lot of trust and group cohesion to be healthily functional), institutionalising table-level secret-keeping is not the way to go.

When you're talking about doing all of that on the Internet, the potential for mishap increases exponentially.

Murch

@npst Sorry, only ever played in German

BESW

12:05 AM

Hmm. [pokes translators]

Airatome

I'm horribly confused by this book......but it's all in english

npst

re

Airatome

I can't find anything precise to answer your question npst :/

my apologies

BESW

"Meisterparade" seems to mean roughly "expert countermove."

Airatome

my brain hurts.....

npst

12:05 AM

Well, in the german books (4.0 and 4.1) Endurance is always marked as being optional

SevenSidedDie

@IronHeart *waves!*

npst

there's also the mention of "using a combat talent costs 1 endurance point"

Murch

@npst I've just read, if you want to play with Stamina, you should get "Wege des Schwerts" (Way of the Sword?)

BESW

(Well, literally "master parry," but yeah.)

npst

Well, we decided to play wihtout endurance.

And the question is if there#s anything restricting us from using talents each and every action?

Murch

12:07 AM

@npst Well, then you have two options, I guess. Either allow moves that cost Endurance all the time, or limit them in some other fashion.

Airatome

yea since I can't find the part where it mentions endurance is optional......because it seems any sort of Technique costs Endurance and doesn't give an option for what it would cost or how it would operate if you were NOT using Endurance.....

it almost seems like Endurance is NOT optional

npst

And for that purpose the GM looked at Drakensang (the Dark Eye PC Game) for that one dongeon

oh, that's weird

Airatome

or else dogs and cats would live together, and mass hysteria would ensue

npst

maybe this has grown annoying enough for us to open a different room?

Airatome

but more than likely there's some sort of system where such a cost is optional and I'm missing how it explains it's optional use.

Murch

12:10 AM

@npst Are all the special maneuvers from the book that gives the extended rules on endurance? Then you'd also have the option to just play without the maneuvers. ;)

Airatome

I quit :/

npst

i feel like a third grader again, not knowing every second word

Airatome, thank you VERY much for your help

Airatome

Of course.....I found a PDF but combing through it really didn't provide me with knowledge of how to answer your question....

Murch

@Airatome I think the main problem is that nobody ever plays with Endurance. It is way too much book keeping.

Airatome

attack versus parry versus Armor Points = damage to Vitality Points?

?.?

npst

12:13 AM

Oh, those are the basics :D

(did i mention it#s a german game?)

Murch

@Airatome I believe there is an extra roll for the damage.

Airatome

then I just opt for continuous allowance for formerly Endurance based techniques. If they would normally expend Endurance to be able to use, but Endurance is somehow 'optional' that means one of two things

if you throw Endurance out the window, you also throw all Endurance Requiring techniques out the window......or you have free reign to use them as often as needed

Yea....I found out it was a german game that never saw a North American release due to Wizards of the Coast having just released 3.5E at the time

along with other contenders it didn't want to try it's hand against

shame...it looks rather fun if I could wrap my head around how it works

npst

What.. i just opened a chatroom with murch and lost it.

ah, there it is

Airatome

oops

/end the Dark Eye Troubleshooting
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we now return you to your regularly scheduled shenanigans

BESW

That was fun to watch. [lurks in German chat with auto-translate on]

Airatome

12:19 AM

........

Auto - Translate.....

Murch

@Airatome ^^

Airatome

why didn't I think of that

apparently it's over 9000

my brain just can't....

Iron Heart

Mechanical translation is notorious for not retaining the spirit of the original message.

BESW

Auto-translate is not very good (Google uses United Nations documents for most of its translation database, so the less like United Nations documents the subject material is, the worse the translation is), but it's not nothing.

Murch

hehe

if you have quesitons, I can translate

BESW

12:22 AM

Don't want to interrupt your flow. I can get the general gist of things, though Google just gives up every now and then.