Conversation started Feb 25, 2014 at 17:06.
ToddersLegrande
ToddersLegrande
Feb 25, 2014 17:06
@JoshPetrie looking at your answer regarding hiring practices, I have a hard time finding it as a useful (subjectively good) answer if you removed the "But that said" portion, if we deemed such an answer as correct (objectively good).
user4704
I'm not sure what you mean.
ToddersLegrande
ToddersLegrande
The way I interpret your meta answer is that your answer should only contain:

The answer is that it depends. Hiring practices, needs, and wants are different in every studio and even vary over time. Often they vary wildly. It may be a benefit, or it may even be disadvantage.
Because this portion is based on experience / opinion:

But, that said, generally your resume, which includes your degree, is only going to get you in the door for the part of the interview where you actually talk to a human. Once you get to talk to a human, what you can actually do is far more important than what the papers say you can.
The answer as a whole is much more useful than my interpretation of how I would correct your answer
user4704
I think experience is okay, but opinion is subject to the good subjective / bad subjective rule.
user4704
I see that, for example, as meaning I can answer things based on my experience as a hiring manager and use that to provide context around when, for example, there are two different ways to do something.
user4704
(and thus disprove by counterexample)
user4704
Feb 25, 2014 17:11
But I explicitly left out "my advice is to..." (and put that in the comment instead)
user4704
We use our experience to inform answers all the time; "it's been my experience that <this is bad> because <this happens>" for example.
Jon
Jon
like this: gamedev.stackexchange.com/questions/71006/how-to-learn-cocos2d
ToddersLegrande
ToddersLegrande
So the expression of experience is ok but opinion based on experience should be left to comment?
I think there is a very fine line which makes me nervous about the whole situation
Because what about definitions of terms (going back to the 3D camera one) that come from experience?
The "It depends" answer is probably more correct but I don't think the definition answer itself is bad if its based on experience... hmm
Blue
Blue
There you go @JoshPetrie :
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A: When should we answer "it depends" instead of closing?

BlueI would say... it depends. If the presumption is that the answers that can be given branch out too much then we can call it too broad and close it like normal. However, if there is a general standard of a few choices for the answer (see example) then we could construct an answer that is specific...

ToddersLegrande
ToddersLegrande
"Over the course of my career the most common terms I've seen are: x, y, z" vs "I use this because it made sense to me" (good vs bad example)
@Blue facepalm over the first line
Blue
Blue
Feb 25, 2014 17:22
:D
The point. He got it.
Have a lolly pop.
ToddersLegrande
ToddersLegrande
I would appreciate it if you structured your answer so that your definitive points were much clearer and more concise
(joking in case that wasn't obvious)
user4704
@ToddersLegrande Yea; I think this is true of all answers (that we leverage our experience to answer them, but should leave our opinions, usually, out of them). I do agree that in these scenarios the line is much finer.
user4704
Which is potentially problematic.
user4704
But on the other hand, maybe it's a good opportunity to teach this site how it's supposed to work.
user4704
For example, we have a perfectly usable tool for addressing answers that veer too much into the "this is my opinion without any sort of objective backing to it," a tool that nobody seems to want to take advantage of because too many people are too concerned about posting dumb image memes and farming reputation: vote that shit down.
Blue
Blue
Feb 25, 2014 17:28
@ToddersLegrande reading it back it was pretty fucking awful in punctuation, redid it with pretty formatting
@JoshPetrie If only I too had 45k to downvote the stupid into oblivion.
user4704
You have 2888, it costs 1.
user4704
(heh, not k! :D)
ToddersLegrande
ToddersLegrande
@JoshPetrie This is actually a really good point. For questions with multiple answers its especially important to make them objective or based on experience and not opinion because people post silly answers to farm rep as you point out. That being said this truly should be something that applies to the whole site and not just it depends / questions with multiple answers
 
Conversation ended Feb 25, 2014 at 17:30.