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terdon

yst 17:56

Seriously though, you do make good arguments. Go ahead and add the tag back, just add some explanation of why in the edit message. As I said, while I am not convinced, I am also not 100% that I am right and the tag doesn't belong. So if you feel it does, go for it.

terdon

yst 17:55

I'm just having trouble seeing this as being about filesystems (none were mentioned; yes, the ctime handling changes depending on filesystem, but that doesn't seem to be what the question was about).

terdon

yst 17:52

Honestly, I think you're grasping a bit cause you're close to the tag, but that doesn't mean you're wrong :P

terdon

yst 17:49

If you say so, I'm sure you're right. I really don't know how this kind of thing works in detail.

terdon

yst 17:49

Yeah. See that faint line back there in the distance? That's the limit of my understanding of this sort of thing, and we have gone WAY beyond it.

terdon

yst 17:48

That said, I also see where you're coming from, so I won't object or roll back if you want to add the tag back. @JeffSchaller @Kusalananda wanna weigh in?

terdon

yst 17:48

@jesse_b Two things. First, I could have sworn that meta post I linked wasn't something I had asked and answered. That... kinda weakens my argument to be honest. Second, you're not wrong about the filesystems, but the kernel? Is that involved? In any case, the OP was focusing on find and generating a list of files for a virus scan and that doesn't seem related to Linux.

terdon

yst 17:46

Q: What is the Linux tag for?

When should the linux tag be used? Should it be added to any question when the OP is using Linux? Should it only be used when the question is about the Linux kernel or GNU/Linux operating systems? I've seen some people use it to indicate that they are running Linux, although the question isn't a...

terdon

yst 17:46

Or Linux in any way, really.

terdon

yst 17:45

@jesse_b Heh, sorry. Because it has nothing to do with the Linux kernel.

terdon

Nov 14 13:36

@DanLarrabee if it's not required to export them it would probably be better to use an array instead. — jesse_b yesterday

terdon

Nov 14 13:36

Ah no, almost, it was a comment:

terdon

Nov 14 13:35

Heh, if I remember correctly that's exactly what Jesse's answer said.

terdon

Nov 13 19:34

grrrrr :)

terdon

Nov 13 19:34

jlericson.com/2023/06/26/problem_ai.html

terdon

Nov 13 19:34

Oh, FFS!

terdon

Nov 13 19:33

This is a very good analysis by an ex SE employee: jlericson.com/images/SO_posting_2023.png (and the source of the image I posted above)

terdon

Nov 13 19:32

for posts, genAI seems to have perhaps accelerated the trend, but it was there long before

terdon

Nov 13 19:32

terdon

Nov 13 19:30

I am very familiar with the equivalent graph for number of posts and the decline began long before chatGPT. Maybe views only started declining then, but that seems unlikely.

terdon

Nov 13 19:30

@jesse_b yep, sorry and thanks for the pointer. Yeah, I really wonder if that's real. I expect reality to be pretty close to that, but it isn't quite as clear cut as evidenced by the fact that SE are still running around like headless chickens trying to arrest the downward trend and not really knowing what has caused it.

terdon

Nov 13 19:26

@jesse_b I wonder if that's true. There has indeed been a dip, noticeable in questions and answers, but I don't think it was that clear and the image seems a bit off. Where is that from?

Discussion between terdon and Cris Lu…

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terdon

Dec 2 19:09

Si pregunto, te aviso :)

terdon

Dec 2 19:08

Que fuerte. Creo que preguntaré en Spanish Language. Ahora tengo curiosidad de si es algo regional o si simplemente me equivoco (muy probable) o que.

terdon

Dec 2 19:06

Puede ser que estoy traduciendo de otras lenguas, pero me sale super natural "2 de la mañana".

terdon

Dec 2 19:06

No, en serio? Una de la mañana te suena raro entonces?

terdon

Dec 2 19:05

I find about as many hits on Google (not NGrams, so take that with a healthy grain of salt) for each of 12 de la mañana, del mediodía, de la tarde. May I ask where your Spanish is from? I admit I stalked you a tiny bit and saw on your linkedin that you went to school somewhere in Alicante, right? In which case, the Spanish I learned is likely to be relatively similar since I was living up in Cataluña.

terdon

Dec 2 18:30

I spent 7 years in Spain and my foreigner's ear is more accustomed to "12 del mediodía" or "12 de la tarde" but as a non native, that might just depend on what I happened to have been exposed to.

terdon

Dec 2 18:29

I think it would just confuse me since neither 12pm nor 12am match with "12 de la mañana" for me, but I would probably lean towards thinking it's midnight since "la una de la mañana" (or, granted, perhaps madrugada) is unambiguously 1am (right? That isn't just me?)

terdon

Dec 2 18:28

@CrisLuengo Oh, that's cool! Thanks, Cris, I didn't know that etymology either. How interesting! But would you really understand las doce de la mañana as 12pm in Spanish?

terdon

Dec 2 18:27

@CrisLuengo my point is that the English word noon means 12pm. The Spanish mediodía does mean "the moment the sun is at its highest" (RAE), but that is not what the English word noon means. What we call morning (mañana) vs afternoon (tarde) is indeed completely culturally dependent, but that isn't what I was discussing. I admit I am more familiar with 12 del mediodía but I suspect your Spanish is better than mine, so I'm sure you're right.

terdon

Dec 2 18:27

@CrisLuengo no, in Spain, noon is at 12pm, not 2. The word noon means 12pm by definition, that isn't something that changes. While the Spanish mediodía is relatively vague and can indeed mean any time around 12 (see RAE), the English word noon means 12pm exactly. If you're instead thinking of tarde as in por la tarde, then that still isn't a translation of noon but of afternoon which is a different thing.

terdon

Dec 2 18:27

@Edheldil well yes, so does English though, and Greek, Spanish, French etc. I don't know of any language where "12 in the morning" would mean noon. Which is part of why I found mirabilos's comment confusing.

terdon

Dec 2 18:27

@mirabilos what continental Europeans are these? I don't know of a European country that does not use this exact system. Even the Greeks, who have a different alphabet, still use two abbreviations which stand for "before noon" and "after noon" (although, confusingly, the Greek πμ—which is the Greek p and Greek m—means before noon, not after it). What countries in Europe use a different system? In what language would "12 in the afternoon" be taken to mean midnight? Are you thinking of "after noon" as opposed to "afternoon" perhaps?

Room for Bml and John Rennie

terdon

Dec 2 17:37

OK. Just make sure you don't target the user.

terdon

Dec 2 16:42

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I just noticed that I lost a bunch of points from my reputation score, and I used the "reputation" tab on my user profile page to try and track down the cause. During my investigation, I noticed there was an unusual event of type "reversal". In the normal place of a question title, it says "voti...

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terdon

Dec 2 16:41

You should vote on the posts, never on the user. Upvoting because you like someone or downvoting because you don't like them are both equally against the rules. If you want to reward a user, you could offer a bounty on a good question they have answered. And you can of course vote as you want on every one of their posts, but if you go looking for their posts in order to vote them up, that is against the rules. Instead, just vote on them as you find them naturally while browsing the site.

terdon

Dec 2 16:41

@JohnRennie Please don't suggest that! @Bml this is what is known as targeted voting, voting for the user and not for the question. It is a form of vote fraud and against the rules of SE. So no, please do not under any circumstances do what John suggested. I know it seems perfectly reasonable (which is presumably why John suggested it, I am not implying anyone is doing anything in bad faith here), but it is absolutely against the rules.

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terdon

Nov 13 13:41

!!/report askubuntu.com/q/1532832/85695

terdon

Nov 13 12:14

!!/report askubuntu.com/q/1532819/85695

Discussing Romans 1:20 scientifically

Scientific evidence for God's existence

terdon

Nov 10 19:13

@Matthew Why are you making these points? I am not arguing against the existence of a creator. I don't believe there is one, but that isn't the argument I am making. If you don't have a point about the model we were discussing, please don't try to pull the conversation towards something else.

terdon

Nov 10 13:16

@Matthew yes, that's what I am saying. Inbreeding could theoretically also lead to extinction. Observations with wild animals don't suggest anything of the sort. And humans aren't particularly successful on this scale. Bacteria are. Insects most certainly are. Grasses have been doing particularly well.

terdon

Nov 10 13:13

@Matthew accident? What accident? As for examples, off the top of my head, take the crystallins. They are structural proteins in the eye of some species, and an oxidoreductive enzyme in others. That's just one I happen to remember. As for how many mutations, relatively few, the sequences from the different species are easily aligned and retain very significant similarity.

terdon

Nov 10 13:12

@Matthew Not at all, but that isn't a good analogy. If you tried with several million cars, over the course of several million years and instead of cars, you had something many orders of magnitude more complex with many more bits and pieces that can be tweaked, and a system that makes more copies of those cars that are slightly better at flying than others, then you might be getting somewhere.

terdon

Nov 10 13:10

@Matthew I wasn't trying to demonstrate common descent. I was discussing a particular model that tries to reproduce the way species may change.

terdon

Nov 10 13:08

@Matthew Sure, no argument there. Although it is still a little bit more complicated (and this whole thing is all about the complexity) since even if it breaks one system, it might help an adjacent one. But yes, I am pushing it and this will be the exception rather than the rule.

terdon

Nov 9 12:41

@Matthew It really doesn't. We do not see this degeneration, this decrease in fitness over time. There are some arguments that it is happening in humans in the past hundred years or so but that's because modern medicine is significantly reducing the selective pressure and people who wouldn't have survived to reproduce in the wild, do so due to medical progress. Non-human species, however, which lack this medical advantage, do not display the degeneration that this model predicts.

terdon

Nov 9 12:41

@Matthew How is selection unable to weed them out? Inbreeding is actually a great example of how it absolutely does weed them out since inbreeding increases the chances of homozygous deleterious mutations and ends up reducing the fitness of successive generations.

terdon

Nov 9 12:41

@Matthew the accumulated changes are no longer invisible unless one assumes a constant rate of change across all individuals and constant level of detriment per mutation. There are no recessive genes associated with health issues, there are specific mutations associated with health issues. Some of which, intriguingly, also provide benefits. Ity is rarely as clear cut as good vs bad. Although it can be, granted.

terdon

Nov 9 12:41

@Matthew Not sure what you mean here, again, but we have dozens (thousands, actually) of examples of proteins that have acquired wildly different functions. Often even the same protein does something absolutely different in different situations in specific species. Have a look at the so called "moonlighting proteins" for instance.