prosody-Gabe Vereable Context

@forest Yo, I remember you, we talked b4:), you might remember from chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/784?m=57204812#57204812 in Crypto room. You asked me a question, but gave me the silent treatment;), did I stun you? There are so many empty rooms, by joining lots I can at least try to be sociable. (I mean, listen/read=quiet/shy behavior. If I'm too talkative, mod judgements get mean, so some self-censorship helps I guess.) Requires eery skill to just find/remember our past chats...

@FaheemMitha True, even though of course we're being misled, because I gather the Chrome Android build shuts tabs aggressively/quickly, giving the appearance of speed. If only there was a chrome://settings to set exact memory usage/cost as a user in Chrome builds. I imagine even moderate academics might appreciate the logic being a preference option. (I bet I can run a custom build with customized, though I may not make it past the compiler sadly, but theoretically a 1-line change in the code?)

^Exactly. (I mean, I love Chrome, syncs to Google well, I trust.)

:] I had to first learn about "out of memory" errors, then went to setting up SWAPDISK, then learning SWAPPINESS, if I remember correctly... lord. (I went from Mac OS System 7 in 1999 handling 100 windows with ease, to 2020 with "bleeding edge" Linux distros that can not handle 100 tabs in chrome's "active memory", though Chrome v95+ began offloading tabs so not all on RAM. I think I had Chrome crash ~500 times before got it to work. I mean should I "blame" UNIX, AJAX/Javascript or Chrome? :)

Or in other words, I hear you, though part of me wonders, if nobody else in the room had the same painful memory_swap issues? :) Maybe if we had more people from bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=swappiness&can=2 bug tickets here, I would have gotten a clap or smile? Keeping Chrome cool (and memory available) has been an education. :P

@terdon Fair, I mean, I guess that's an issue sometimes, it depends. I can feel the tenseness, sometimes. Some people respond to a 300 character/2 message interaction in other ways, I guess I am programmed (well, human "program") for the friends who respond better to my talking emotionally about my iMac than others. Is it possible some might label S-o-C, while some might key into my UNIX references? I mean I make exclusively computerized friends in real life, these conversations made me me. O:)

@terdon Just talking like at a WAP.org (Washington Apple Pi) meeting, fixing computers (did not mean to complain about UNIX really) and talking openly.

I still do not get why "SWAPPINESS" (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_paging#Swappiness) is a range from 0-200 and not 100, and further, why it's not a default en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Default_(computer_science) GUI button yet. =/ (Dare I ask why I even need to change swap just to run Google Chrome Stable with 100 tabs open, when I have 10GB ram and nothing else open? I should tell Alexa to tell Chrome to swap itself. What's Chrome doing to my memory? Why do I even know what swap is.)

Segal means Legal, or Links does not mean en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynx_(web_browser), I do say. Please do not tell me Lynx means something else, and someone better not start teling me that renaming systemd was bright, it's enough you're all making me question what "Lynx" meant. =/ What litany am I relying on if these kinetic nomenclatures be like broken pipes which do not regulate their spelling, what world has UNIX created if bash.org is Sense of Style, this broken UNIX English.

Watch Patriot (Amazon) <3 TVTropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Series/Patriot "Every statement touching on industrial piping is rendered as an impenetrable string of technical terms. "Using a field of half-C sprats and brass-fitted nickel slits, our bracketed caps [...] How? Well, we bolster twelve husk nuts to each girdle jerry, while flex-tandems press a task apparatus of ten vertically composited patch hamplers, then pin flam-fastened pan traps at both maiden apexes of the jimjoints." :)

With a bit of imagination, I was powering the Manhattan Project. At least we were not having real learning shocks and fires like our parents.

Today there are better options for interacting with actual programming code, but lord those learning kits were tough. Actual puzzles (like building Toys R' Us lego skyscrapers) I could build well, but Radioshack circuitboards haunt me. A cheap Rasberry Pi would have been good instead, would have taught me actual computer code along with the freaky jarring kit buzzing sounds. :/

Is it okay if I tell you I think Radioshack's $20 Learning Kit Lab Circuit Boards reddit.com/r/electronics/comments/nnlih/… are "Code Golf" && if I do not really have a supercomputer? :∫

@GingerIndustries Supercomputer, plus being a en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mentat mentat. (And chat experience. Sadly though, so many quiet/empty/silent chat rooms...)

@GingerIndustries IF NOT ur mom = THEN ur dad actually, mate.

@S.M.T Well, a 'minimum degree of knowledge about who is to become president', hopefully not a "voting literacy test" which has a terrible meaning in USA, versus the www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_Rights_Act_of_1965 before, so better as a 'standardized democratic press score system' (I'm making up a term for it, what political scoring systems do/would CNN and Fox ever be able to agree? Can we agree that tax records should be a "yes"/"no" question maybe?) for said electability/ability?

@Robusto +1 Thank you @Robusto for bringing back yesterday's topic (maybe because I publicly Starred that entry, that worked, woo hoo :) :]

@Cerberus chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/60528302#60528302 ...Good, so I finally know democracy is not demon+crazy, was my first thought when reading your Greek fact "A demos is a people". I wondered if the word inventor meant that, but I guess they did not account for Greek being transformed by English later in language. (I was too scared to type that in yesterday, how stupid does that sound, but I can not be the only one who ever asked.)

@S.M.T Some form of ~Democratic_Intelligence, er, ~Intelligent_Democracy, would help. (I mean, that might just mean internet access, or public tax records, maybe asking for greater/deeper disclosures in general. Even autocrats use/abuse some democratic tools oddly, some better/worse than we do in the USA ourselves. Record-keeping makes democracy-keeping, but the press is not required to report all conflicting interests in elections information, background checks are not standardized vetting.)

Hmm. :}

@tchrist I said "comment", I did not say give me an "answer". And now I might have questions too. Now what do i do. O:)

@tchrist chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/60528304#60528304 would be a good question comment for english.stackexchange.com/questions/585188/…? Or I may quote your permalink.

Between Axios's "algorithmic news", and Google News putting Snopes.com at the top of every page, I thought programmatic A.I. analysis would lead to these differentials being clear. But we do not even have linguistic nuance standards.

Well all the pings sound the same, the least S.E. could do is custom ringtones. Maybe after SE goes open source. :P

And sorry for the unruly ping, but I wish 538 and that NYT column had a ruled chart of said positions of great powers. Sometimes there are such diagrams (if not, shown comically), but it is not a method of expression (or what do you call such chart/diagram/tree?) sotospeak.

@Cerberus "specifically says", "refuses to say", are some of the good/better expressions, which can be (beyond the Security Council resolutions) difficult to summarize. :/

@Cerberus fivethirtyeight.com / freakonomics.com should have a chart with your summarized lingual/legalist voting angles. ...what are our keywords, "specifically says", "refuses to say", "but"... is that a Decision Tree or Theoretical Linguistics (does "but" cause buffer overflows in Law, at "but specifically says", with error msg E_Difficult_to_Summarize)? :∫

washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/02/24/… from Ignatius on CNN TV yesterday, talks about how it's the (psychological?) end of one war, if not the start of another. Good they/we've waited for President Biden first, at least: "When Russian President Vladimir Putin launched his all-out invasion of Ukraine on Thursday, he effectively ended the post-Cold War era. A new architecture for global relations must be built, and its shape will depend[]"

I just found about the room here from chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/60513627#60513627 where we're also talking about WWIII in the chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/95/… English Language room. I guess we're all speaking the same language, & on th same page, ...We want to know if its WWIII yet, and can not fit that into a proper StackExchange question format. O:) Wait, there must be a Poli q about if it's WWIII yet somewhere.

@Fredy31 I thought it was because they're getting older? They're almost 70 now, they're asking themself if there is still time to conquer the world (and before Starlink Satellite Internet, drones delivery, and 5G are ready to give people ammunition/power to live to speak about it)?

Written news chat transcripts are better than TV. (For news, I always had Mac not TV at home in my room, pre-iPhone. Fam was all network/antennae TV. I/family never had cable growing up. Just tried DirecTV for first time ever this month, at a shelter hotel (a Holiday Inn). It seems transcripts.cnn.com was coded in the early 1800s? Lord CNN Transcripts (& Tweets) suck compared to StackExchange transcripts. Why's transcripts.cnn.com not have the teleanchors chatting while talking?)

Interesting. (In time, me too, now I organically am redirected back to Stack/Quora for every search I make sometimes, it pattern matches my style now, there are often not any other reputable alternative results than these.)

Err, presentation, I mean representation.

Well I mean, versus government entities and regulated organizations, in terms of required presentation.

<-- ~10 years too :) Probably read the same YCombinator posts about Quora and Stack coming into being.

I do not mean to impose, was just a thought. StackExchange is a young network, barely has rules yet, for a lot of presentation.

* /me git push/add Charcoal -"Adding bio information" <insert @tripleee's last few lines>

@tripleee Ah, correct, good point, what are these independent entities called, sister projects? I rem now, Git or chat I read said that, I guess like the Math(?) section is/was not SE-owned. Is just not labeled, like WordPress puts Credits everywhere. (P.S. The About page for Charcoal is hidden/sparse, then again my own About profiles are sparse too, just saying. If each project had a crypto token there would be better labeling, but then again if tokenized/incentivized your modeling may suffer.)

@tripleee I thought SE was ASP (language), how are you Ruby (lang) Cowboy huh?

@tripleee Oh my you speak Emacs don't you. Emacs need an applause_sound_effect upon pressing M-x yay, with a hollergirl feedback yip, from the yip.py Python lib. And a standing ovation when you get past a dozen commands memorized. (Well, maybe for Spacemacs.)

I understand, like an office. Had to learn, not Yahoo/AIM/IRC. I am normally quiet, is okay. StackExchange and Matrix seem to be first completely open/archivable/public chats, mainly impressed by that, as a reader. (For the record, if that's what you were curious, prosody is partly becase of LibPurple/Pidgin, but the poetry and linguistic meanings sometimes work. I replaced my birthname "Gabriel" (religious) with "Prosody" (computigious) which both have sound/language meanings. I prefer P>G.)

@tripleee I always register for fancy web tools (even if I do not know what I will do w/ code, I just want to log-in. Just a curious fan, I'm not API-ready. :), i did not realize the robot would identify me by name in the chat room after. (Beforehand, I muted said robot, so I did not notice, then I happened to read your mention.) Maybe I should go back to being quiet. O:) Was the robot talking to me or am I being homoglyphed? Then again, you could be talking about "prosody.im/libpurple/pidgin".

Hmm.

What also is difficult to make sense of, is why do we drive cars and always carry ID/insurance information, but not for computer vehicles?

@bertieb That does not make sense, I thought the point of "911" versus "999" is that you need to use your brain to hit the keys, you can not accidentally call by hitting keys from across the keypad?

chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/151 is better integration (profiles, search, individual message permalinks) than view.matrix.org/room/!OGEhHVWSdvArJzumhm:matrix.org currently. <3 Good problem to be bothered by, but small team (@matthew:matrix.org wrote "E_NEED_MORE_PEOPLE" in the pub room, good variable usage :), takes time. Starting a specification from scratch (where is gov funding, I want Presidents on secure PUBLIC chat too), that must annoy the CEO-Dev Matthew deeply.

I mean I do not count weird Discord and FB Group Chats (and we all know Quora mod chat logs are a pandoras box), which, good luck proving that... citing a chat is special to specify. Only Matrix and StackExchange give public archivable transcripts with timestamps for proof, that is newsworthy?

Speaking of "People at SE don't use SE" being memeworthy, and probably nearly part of C... am I correct that Matrix.org's crew is the only major (YCombinator level) attempt at the primary employees/programmers writing by _chat_ openly/publicly nearly from their beginning in ~2014? I mean you can tell Stacks staff are not here and neither is @zuck in a public chat room 24/7/365, is Matrix.org the first 24/7/365 public chat office room, with the CEO who writes the blog in main room active?:∫