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12:35 PM
@gnat - thank you for taking the time to review my suggestion and it's clear you've thought through quite a few of the implications. I was aware of, and agree with, the fundamental premise behind using dupe as the closing reason. I don't think I had considered using stretch dupes as a forcing function. Of all the questions that had created a tickle about their dupe closure, none of them were great or even good questions. Okay to poor was my assessment as they were written. ...
... So I can see the power of using a marginal dupe to say "you're really asking this, right?" and draw out the OP's actual intents. And maybe they can learn a bit more about the site that way. If / when the sites see the changes to close voting and "on-hold" then this approach will become more useful.
Getting back to my suggestion - I hesitate to call it negative feedback and more like course correction. Yes, that's a nuance that's a bit too touchy feeling but I think it's worth pointing out. Colloquially, "negative feedback" is loaded and implies an intent that's not there. "Course correction" accomplishes the same result but makes clear the intent is collaborative. Now, if you happen to be a control systems guy then negative feedback then negative feedback is an essential aspect of ...
... the feedback loop in order to keep the system response critically damped. If that's the case, then yes, it's negative feedback. :-) I'm happy to call out when I see suggested closes that are pushing the edges too much. It definitely sounds like my concerns were heard and considered, which is honestly all that I can ask for.
I do periodically worry about close votes piling onto a question. Gilles has expressed on meta what that can do to the site's reputation. And while I disagree with his phrasing, I acknowledge the underlying concern. All that said, I haven't seen much to really substantiate excessive close voting. I've gone through the review history logs and reviewers are varying their votes. It's not always "close, close, close."
We just have a larger number of active close voters as compared to our question volume. Crap gets treated harshly and quickly due to our active reviewers. I'm hard pressed to explain how that's a bad thing. Yes, there can be a snowball effect with close and down votes. However, a well placed comment can offset that too. That would be ... "working as designed" by my book.
Thanks again for listening to my suggestion and wading through the examples. I'm glad they provided a degree of insight for you, which is all I could ask for.
 
 
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2:09 PM
@GlenH7 your second guess about "negative feedback" is correct, I used it as in the feedback loop in control systems. So yes, I have no hard feelings talking about negative feedback on my actions. :) Calling it course correction woul be OK, too. :)
As for how active closing could be a bad thng, well I personally am not hard pressed explaining this. You see, concerns I expressed above regarding my dupe crusade, generally could be applied to active closing. Without proper "negative feedback", this also could get out of control and start damaging site instead of improving it.
I think recent meta question about senseless OT closure shows an example of possible damage...
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Q: help me understand why this question was closed as off-topic?

coriis this javascript property defaulting pattern horrible? is the question at, um, question. I'm not upset or offended by the closure; no ego involved here, and I got the feedback I needed before the question was closed anyway, but in the interests of being a good citizen I'd like to understand wh...

 

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