5:04 AM
Please let me know if this should be asked on main board instead: I have large latex file with many sections. Is it possible to tell pdflatex to make separate PDF file for each section (numbers of sections, toc, is NOT important to get right for now), or each chapter, on its own, instead of one PDF file for everything? Or do I have to split the pdf file myself afterwords using external tool?
I found this answer, which seems to say what I want. tex.stackexchange.com/questions/5228/…

5:22 AM
Is it possible to separate the bibliography in two: one part of only links to webpages and one for all the other stuff?

@leo Do you mean separate out the references that are just to online sources or have the same references, but one with links only and one with the actual reference?

@AlanMunn separate references that are just to online sources

This is easy to do with biblatex. It's probably also possible with multibib. Here's a similar kind of question. tex.stackexchange.com/q/36028/2693

@AlanMunn Thanks

5:38 AM
@leo That might not be the best one; check through other biblatex + multiple questions and you may find something better.

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6:55 AM
@josephWright I earnestly suggest using XML as syntax formalism for LaTeX3. Of course there might be a familiarisation effect, but @egreg's answer here for instance is completely impenetrable to me for its syntactic verbosity. With XML you also have verbose syntax, but you also have a Schema providing syntax checking, tool tips in the editor, and (if you use schematron) basic semantic checking.
And of course the editor will provide all mandatory parts of the syntax by completion, so writing verbose code is easy. Has AUCTeX already been extended to support LaTeX3? Has anybody checked whether this syntax lends itself to excessive completion?

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8:11 AM
@StephanLehmke I'm not about to write XML as my main input form, sorry
@StephanLehmke If you go down that route, then you get back to the 'should we simply abandon TeX entirely' question. See for example patoline.com for an alternative approach
@StephanLehmke No one said that Yiannis's idea for an input syntax was a good plan, after all :-)
@StephanLehmke There's also the point that people expect us to continue to support the \documentclass ... \end{document} structure: if you say 'right, forget that, everything is XML' then you get 0 users
@StephanLehmke I'm also unclear on how XML would work with user-defined mark up in a document, but then I know very little about XML formalism

8:24 AM
@StephanLehmke Of course, providing a route to use XML is on the 'to do' list: that's a reason for the code/document level separation (same internals, different interfaces)

@JosephWright Ok, all these are compelling arguments ;-)
So I'll just wait until the new syntax grows on me with time :-)

@StephanLehmke Feel free to raise on LaTeX-L: I'm just pointing out that this has not been ignored :-)
@StephanLehmke Well the code-level syntax is entirely separate from the document: you can't code in XML that I know of

Still I wouldn't worry about people moving away from TeX. I have a pretty good picture what other engines are capable of, and so far no seriuos competitor seems at hand.
@JosephWright Not sure what you mean by that. XSL and DocScape are both languages with an XML-based syntax.

@StephanLehmke But I thought the code for DocScape was not written in XML but in TeX?
@StephanLehmke Perhaps not: I suspect the 'parse in one step, typeset in a second' runs out of steam with complex cross-refs for example

@JosephWright That would be the same for the LaTeX3 kernel I assume. But if I write a 10.000 line DocScape "design rule base" most of it is basically script programming (with code and data abstraction, recursion, loops, whatever).

8:31 AM
@StephanLehmke That is to say the DocScape sounds like it reads XML as the native user input format, but the 'back end' is in a separate language. (In the same way that TeX reads TeX for the user but is written in Pascal)
@StephanLehmke Design level is different from both document and code level :-)
@StephanLehmke Frank is the man to talk to about design-level stuff!

@JosephWright Yes, I notice "FO power users" moving to DocScape because of inherent limitations of the computation model recently.

@StephanLehmke FO?

@JosephWright "Formatting Objects", the document description part of XSL-FO.
Which is behind most "visible" automatic document generation systems, like Online Tickets, Invoices etc.

@StephanLehmke Ah right

8:56 AM
Checking up on some biblatex stuff, I found we have tex.stackexchange.com/questions/48400 and tex.stackexchange.com/questions/23832. The two are very similar: any thoughts?
Hmm, perhaps the comments are enough

Wow. I just opened my inbox today and saw this entry:
Proposed F19 Feature: Replace MySQL with MariaDB

Morning Folks =)

9:22 AM
@JasonBourne: Jasper, I see you have a darker blue outfit. :)

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@PauloCereda Yes.

@JasonBourne nice dress ;)

user19161
@Rico I see you have a new name.

@JasonBourne I decided to switch since everything is really familiar here ;)

One vote for @DavidCarlisle, one vote for @egreg in the same question. I think that's fair. :)

9:30 AM
:P

@Rico And one for Yiannis, I believe.

Am I brave enough not to vote for @egreg?!

@JosephWright: I think we need migration: tex.stackexchange.com/questions/94833/… :)
Unless of course David writes a TeX answer for it. :)
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Yesterday I was pairing the socks from the clean laundry, and figured out the way I was doing it is not very efficient. I was doing a naive search — picking one sock and "iterating" the pile in order to find its pair. This requires iterating over n/2 * n/4 = n2/8 socks on average. As a comp...

@PauloCereda No. It's clearly the wrong approach

@DavidCarlisle :)

9:40 AM
@PauloCereda That's why I have bought many pairs of the same kind of socks, so I don't need to pair them anymore after laundry. It saves sooooo much time.

@topskip :)

@topskip Did it the same way till i noticed that some of them are nike and some puma :D

@PauloCereda Done

@JosephWright Merci. :)

9:53 AM
@Rico up or down?

@DavidCarlisle ;)

@PauloCereda Wikipedia does that, too, right?

@topskip No idea.

@topskip Ah.

9:57 AM
@DavidCarlisle not sure which question @PauloCereda was speaking about i voted for your answer on this "escape curly brackets" question ;)

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11:28 AM
!!/eightball No more emacs answers, ok?
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: only egreg knows the answer.

11:44 AM
@DavidCarlisle I'm becoming also a Metapost expert. :P Just 3 votes behind @percusse

12:03 PM
@egreg I think I downloaded the sources and ran metapost shortly after it was announced, but haven't used it since:-)

@DavidCarlisle So you don't know about the gmp package (that I never use, of course).

@egreg correct I don't (ah but google tells me who wrote it..)

@DavidCarlisle It was you, right? :)
/ducks

I was asked to introduce the use of fonts in one of my next YouTube videos any suggestions what should definitely be in this video?

@PauloCereda If I'd have written it it wouldn't be so buggy

12:12 PM
@Rico Just mention that angels weep everytime someone uses Comic Sans.
@DavidCarlisle ooh!

@PauloCereda this will be the introductory sentence!
@PauloCereda Everytime someone uses Comic Sans god kills a kitten, would be more effective...

Should this question be closwd as too localized or can someone answer it? I've never used perltex or thumby ....
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win 7 32 bits texniccenter 2.0 alpha 4 miktex 2.9 Installed ActivePerl 1005 (Perl version 5.10) PATH Variable where the perl executable is located c:\perl\bin\perl.exe already updated Created profile in LaTeX, in preprocessor I created two lines: Executable: C:\Program Files\MiKTeX 2.9\miktex\b...

12:56 PM
@JosephWright ISE = Internal Server Error (the site was not accessible when I tried). And I thought that WriteLaTeX is supported by TUG?

@Kurt The doc says memoir is required. I left a comment about it; probably "too localized" is good.

@tohecz maybe try SpanDeX ;)

@Rico it you check the discussion before the comment I replied to, you will see what do I speak about.

1:18 PM
@Rico SpanDex gave the internal server error he is talking about ;)

How would I start if I want to create "tagged PDF" (mainly for accessibility reasons) with pdftex? Is it mainly writing the right stuff into \pdfliteral? Is there a tutorial?
I saw the "canonical question" here on the site, but the answers and comments weren't very specific.
If it's not possible with plain vanilla pdftex, maybe post-processing with a tool like QDF would be an option?

@tohecz Has he already done that?

1:34 PM
@StephanLehmke I dunno, but he has a ot of experience with PDF specials, considering he rules hyperref

@tohecz No, WriteLaTeX like all of the other online TeX sites is independent. I'd imagine the TUG board would be very wary of supporting anything like that: CTAN is different

@JosephWright ok I didn't know. I was probably convinced by LaTeXcommunity using it...

1:56 PM
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I'm only writing in English and French. In order to get the best appearance (ligatures, spacing between words and letters...), would it be a good investment to move from pdfTeX to XeTeX or LuaTeX?

Someone's already voted to close (as not a real question) without a comment, but although this isn't the greatest question, it's not unreasonable IMO.
Maybe the comment was in the midst of being typed... Martin has added some related questions.

@StephanLehmke ross moore spoke at (somewhere) about making such files, google turned up
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How to create tagged PDF such that they will be: good enough for PDF/UA "reflowable" on smaller screens and ebook readers Any syntax & any engine will do. Preferably using LaTeX with [Xe|pdf]latex engines.

Hmm, I posted a patch to sage trac. My first good patch IMHO.

@JosephWright @PauloCerada Is there supposed to be an interview now? The room is frozen.

@TorbjørnT. I keep unfreezing it!

Howsagoin. For some reason I cannot enter the interview room. I get a message saying it's frozen. Any help apreciated.

2:09 PM
@JosephWright Yeah, I noticed.

@MarcvanDongen Should now work

Everybody: to the interview room!

### TeXtalk - Interviews

Interviews for our community blog.

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3:22 PM
Is there a problem with the chat?

@Kurt You mean the interview?
I'll post a note there.

Yes, I mean the interview. Thanks.

@PauloCereda We seem to have lost our interviewee.

@AlanMunn Marc mentioned to me by email that his computer might have some technical problems.

@PauloCereda He must be a theoretical CS person. :)

3:25 PM
@AlanMunn A brother in arms. :)

@PauloCereda Probably so shocked by your silly question that he fell off his chair.

@DavidCarlisle Thanks, now I feel guilty.

!!/eightball is emacs everyone's favourite editor?

@DavidCarlisle Nope :)

oh hold on.
@DavidCarlisle Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: don't count on it.

3:31 PM
Hold on? Are these answers doctored in any way? :P

!!/eightball Should we ban emacs users?
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: don't you think emacs is great?
HEY NOW I HATE MY BOT!

Answering a question with a question...?
!!/eightball Why?

@LordStryker Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: better not tell you now.

@egreg OK. I see your points. Do you have any thoughts on Tufte/Bringhurst-style marginal text in math-heavy documents? It keeps long float captions from interfering with the main text, but the general layout might be suited to less technical material.

@PauloCereda How can I send a private message to you? I have a quick question.

3:42 PM
@Audrey I don't think Tufte's style is inadequate for math. I have some notes in styles similar to Bringhurst's, but captions are rare and not in the margin (my kind of math has not many figures, you know).

@LordStryker SE has no private message system, I'm afraid. :(
You can start a new chatroom though.

@PauloCereda I'm not sure how to do that. I suppose it isn't a big deal.

@LordStryker Click my name, there's an action button in which you can start a new room.

@egreg Thanks.

@tohecz Oh, sorry I did not see this. Hope its working know, Josh and Gregori are working really hard on it. They mentioned some problems during the last few days. But everything should be fine by now.

4:14 PM
@LordStryker: Can you ask the question here?
<frasier's voice>I'm listening.</frasier's voice> :)

@PauloCereda I wouldn't want to no. Its with respect to Dr. Dongen's book though. Again, its likely not a big deal and probably none of my business to begin with.

Is it me or is @PauloCereda acting creepy, again?

@LordStryker Ah ok. :) My bad.

!!/eightball is @PauloCereda acting creepy?

4:16 PM
@Rico Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: too busy looking for bugs in longtable.
@Rico I never act creep. The eagle has landed.

@PauloCereda thats what SHE said...

Can LaTeX articles be converted to Beamer easily or does it have to be redone? (I've been googling this for a while)
@Rico Thats what @PauloCereda told her.

!!/define /ducks

@Rico Psmith, the TeX bot: I'm sorry, I don't know this acronym.

@LordStryker You know you should redo it as slides that look like paragraphs of an article usually indicate a very dull talk:-)
@LordStryker everything's easy if you use emacs

4:25 PM
!!/eightball can we stop talking about emacs? :)
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: outlook good.

@LordStryker but look at article mode in the beamer manual (which is I think mainly aimed at the other direction but might help)

Thanks @DavidCarlisle I will definitely take a look.
I think @PauloCereda has made the bot prejudiced against emacs.

@PauloCereda Just to show I'm not totally biased ^^^^

@DavidCarlisle ha! *my eyes!!

@DavidCarlisle Oh my!

4:34 PM
@DavidCarlisle not sure whats worse: being biased or using MS Word...

@DavidCarlisle What's this? I can't recognize anything familiar, apart some math.

@Rico I'm sure we can both agree ^^

@LordStryker :D
@LordStryker you mean being biased on MS Word?

@Rico :)
@Rico I thought your message originally said "Not sure which is better..."

4:38 PM
@LordStryker Seeing @DavidCarlisle using Word confused me that much I wasn't able to concentrate on writing :D

!!/help

The story behind the story.

@DavidCarlisle @Rico MSWord... such a travesty in our times.

@AlanMunn No iTerm? I'm shocked. :)

4:42 PM
@DavidCarlisle I guess the 'fuzzy fonts' person would agree that Word looks much better than LaTeX pdf's :P

Scrolling through chat is unusable again. I now have a new expansion of "FF" and only the second F is Firefox.
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!!help
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: I could not understand help

4:53 PM
@DavidCarlisle Still better than MSWord ^^ :)

@Rico "Using" is putting it too strongly. Only thing I know how to do is insert an equation from its inbuilt formula gallery...

@DavidCarlisle :-P

!!/eightball what is the most well known program implementing the math layout rules from Appendix G of the TEXBook?

Apparently my webcam thinks I'm black. I always knew I was deep down. XD

4:57 PM
@DavidCarlisle Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: it is certain.

5:13 PM
@DavidCarlisle Yes I'll watch this 40min video for sure, though from the first 5min I wasn't expecting answers to all my questions. It'll be a start for sure.

@StephanLehmke Ross Moore has actually done three talks about the subject, in TUG2009, 2010 and 2011: river-valley.tv/?s=tagged+pdf

@StephanLehmke I haven't seen it I saw Ross talk about it at a different (not TUG) meeting somewhere, and just searched for his name, that came up. The conference paper is also online which might be quicker to scan than the video

@TorbjørnT. Thanks, that's good to know. I'll see what can be gained from this :-)

5:29 PM
Writers Chat, going on now in The Overlook. Come chat with us (if you like).
Hi.

@KitFox Hello. :) We need to consult our oracle first. :)

Ooooh. You have an oracle?

!!/eightball O great powerful oracle who talks a lot about emacs awesomeness, should we visit The Overlook?
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: outlook good.

Yes!

5:30 PM
I love your eightball. Who wrote it?

@KitFox It's a slightly modified code from a SE chatbot. :) meta.tex.stackexchange.com/questions/2923/…
I wrote a few extensions only.

I want that in our chat.

!!/choose go, stay, eat vegetables
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: The great oracle says: go
Hey!

5:58 PM
@Werner thanks for the edit, I was adding the link but our edits crossed:-)

6:23 PM
@DavidCarlisle No problem...

6:50 PM
Is my answer to "What is LaTeX" understandable? I just took the pictures i already hat. Could create the whole thing in English though. would just take some time

7:01 PM
!!/eightball Is LaTeX easy for grandma?
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: it is decidedly so.

7:48 PM
Is there anything similar to German russischer Zupfkuchen in America/England? I just found Russian Cheesecake but I'm not sure if this is right

Is the spacing following the "A" a known issue, or is just me:
\documentclass{article}

\begin{document}
Absence
\end{document}

@Rico Doesn't it seem as if there is too much space between the first two characters?

@PeterGrill: See this comment and write up an answer.

7:55 PM
@Rico The "Ab" seems off, the "Al" seems just fine.

@PeterGrill thats what i was thinking but this could be an illusion caused by the fact that "l" has lower serifs and "b" just have upper ones

@PeterGrill Try \textsf{Absence} it's less obvious but the spacing is consistent.

@Rico So as long as you are seeing it. Will see what others think.. Just an issue I have not seen (or at least noticed) until now.

@PeterGrill I'm totally seeing it just a second let me try something...

@percusse Yep that does look ok, but why the default one look worng? A\kern-0.028em bsence does not look too bad, but don't really want to be doing that -- too hackish, even for me. :-)

8:05 PM
@PeterGrill I think mainly, the serifs are included in the horizontal box width calc as @Rico mentioned. But I guess the arm of A is playing mind tricks.
Another brain failure moment for mankind.
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@percusse One small step (backwards) for typesetting... Hope Stefan's grandmother does not see this... :-)

Even I don't understand some of the answers.

@percusse I thought she would past just reading the answers and on to baking the cake by now. :-)

@PeterGrill I just measured the distances
if i made everything right the gap between "A" and "l" is 2.91 mm and the gap between the low serif of the "A" and the upper serif of "b" is 2.92mm

@PeterGrill Sure, she already learnt about good kerning for the cake, now baking

8:17 PM
@StefanKottwitz :-)

A difference this little shouldn't hurt my brain this much...

@StefanKottwitz Ok, this seems to be a common problem then.

@PeterGrill I admit, she used \kern.09em inbetween to match the Ab kerning ;-)

@StefanKottwitz Wow, your grandma is a very quick learner.

8:22 PM
something just damaged my chrome -.- any idea how to tell chrome what which page to open if I open a new tab?

@PauloCereda lots more words than my answer:-)

@DavidCarlisle And more cats. :)

@AndrewStacey ooh apple pi!

8:36 PM
:D

@PauloCereda Great! With an additional Unicorn, even StackOverflow users would understand!

@PauloCereda Damm, that was my reaction too!

@StefanKottwitz :)
@MartinScharrer Engineers. :P

@PauloCereda Yeah!

@PauloCereda I would have used ht for the figure :-)

8:43 PM
@StefanKottwitz It would be a little difficult to put the cat inside the monitor. :P

@PauloCereda Naturligvis

@PauloCereda It just counts that you would allow it.

@StefanKottwitz aaaw <3

@PauloCereda Nice Knuth picture! I must show it to my grandma! However, than I would have to explain, who this man is.

@StefanKottwitz :) Tell her he's a very important man. :)

8:50 PM
@PauloCereda I enjoy the kerning between the little finger and the ring finger.

@StefanKottwitz :P

9:02 PM
@PauloCereda Nice cat photo btw. - I could show you the most photogenic dog - my little white wolf. "Smile at the camera!"
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@StefanKottwitz Farouk! :)

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In JabRef 2.7, when I right-click an entry, I have the option to copy the cite command copy \cite{BibTexKey}. However, as I am working with biber I would prefer to have copy \autocite{BibTexKey}. Can I change the settings to copy the way I want?!

Feature request?

9:39 PM
@JosephWright I suppose one could just answer "no". (If that is the case, of course.)

@TorbjørnT. Actually, looking at the detail this might be OK!
Nope, I was right the first time: you can adjust this for some of the external editors that JabRef knows, but not just for the standard 'copy citation' part

I'm using fancyhdr to achieve the following (with \chead and a \\  for the line break).. what would be the best way to align the first line's baseline with the \lhead content?
As you can see it appears to be aligning the bottoms of everything.

10:06 PM
@jtbandes I might leave it be, but I don't see the full document. The easiest way is to put at the end of the left head the same as is in the right head, just put \leavevmode\strut instead of \date, \time (or whatever you have there). It might be good to add \strut into the right head as well.

@tohecz ah... great simple idea, thanks. I should have thought of that :|

@jtbandes I'm a dirty expert you know :p

Okay, next quick question... why are the top & bottom spacing uneven here?
{\centering
\small\begin{minipage}{0.8\columnwidth}
\noindent\hrulefill

{\centering\textbf{Problem 1: Properties of Logs [15 Points]}\\[6pt]}
\footnotesize

The objective of this problem is to remind you of some important identities of logarithms that we'll be using throughout the course.
Give proofs for each of the following properties of logarithms. Write your proofs out carefully. You should assume that $a, b, c, n$ are positive real numbers (\emph{not necessarily integers}).
\begin{enumerate}

@jtbandes You mean the one caused by \\[6pt] ?

Also if I move the \hrulefills outside the minipage, they get closer to the text.
@tohecz: no, I mean between the hrulefills and the text.
(There is more space on the bottom.)

10:13 PM
@jtbandes \hrulefill is at the baseline of a line, try (untested) \vbox{\hrulefill} (without \noindent) or \smash{\hrulefill}

Hm, maybe I should use xhfill instead then.

@jtbandes never do this {\centering\textbf{Problem 1: Properties of Logs [15 Points]}\\[6pt]

What's the problem there?

@jtbandes any setting of the paragraph latout \centering \raggedright \large takes effect at the end of the paragraph so teh end of the paragraph has to be before the }
@jtbandes well it doesn't center anything (actually it does in that case as \ is redefined by \centering to be \par but iif th elines were longer they wouldn't center)

It is producing a centered line, though

10:16 PM
@jtbandes well, \centerline{text} ?

@jtbandes see edited comment:-)

If I remove the \\ it doesn't
@tohecz sounds good
@DavidCarlisle ah I see

@jtbandes \ is \par if centering is in effect
@jtbandes \centerline isn't really idiomatic latex (it's a refugee from plain tex) \centering is the right thing if it's used right

I now have {\centering ... \par\vspace{6pt}}

@jtbandes lovely:-)

10:19 PM
So I guess I should put the question this way: I want horizontal lines above and below the minipage that have equal spacing away from it, how should I do that?

@tohecz @jtbandes have you tried this? (see the post this one links to)

@jtbandes use \hrule or \nointerlineskip before what you have: by using \noindent\hrulefill you are making a normal text line with normal line spacing with a rule at the bottom so there is more space above than below because the height of A is bigger than the depth of p

ah... I guess \hrule does it. silly me trying to overcomplicate things...
\hrule\vspace ... \vspace\hrule, that is.

10:34 PM
@DavidCarlisle Is in English the correct way n$^{\circ}$ or simply no.\@ ?

@tohecz in what meaning> (^\circ is only used for degrees)

@DavidCarlisle grant number
... under grant agreement n$^{\circ}$ 283783.

I think I'd just use the agreement 283783 or if the context isn't clear perhaps agreement number 283783 or if space is really tight the no.\@ abbreviation, definitely not the \circ one.
36 upvotes for the grandma answer and not a single rep point gained :(

@DavidCarlisle grandma?
(sorry, I'm doing journal typesetting and I don't browse the site)

10:52 PM
@tohecz don't let me stop you from working though:-)

@DavidCarlisle lol, I'll upvote it in 66 minutes 20 seconds ;)

@tohecz It's typical of the site that that 2 minute answer is already my second highest score, whereas you can spend half a day hacking the multicolumns output routine and only pick up a couple of votes:-)
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btw, if I could give this professor who wrote this article a tweny, I would do it just for the nicest LaTeX code I've ever seen
@DavidCarlisle yeah, we all have been there. On the other hand, I believe that without people knowing who you are, you might not get so many upvotes. Say whatever you want, we are are biased.
(another point of view: my highest-voted answer is one of my oldest ones and nobody really knew me here back then)

@tohecz yes I pick up a lot of easy points here (on SO answering XSLT questions, which is actually what I use not TeX these days) I just got over 2000, most answers even if accepted pick up 0 or 1 vote at most. (I got a gold unsung hero badge though:-)

@DavidCarlisle yeah, Unsung hero is a good measure of the problems SO has

10:59 PM
got to go...

@DavidCarlisle noooooooooooooo

quicky: how do I allow multipart word to be hyphenated (I need it once)
Hi @Paulo ! :)

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@tohecz Hi Tom!

@JasonBourne hello Jasper

@tohecz Hello Tom! :)

11:01 PM
btw, does texdef allow package options? Like
!!/texdef -t latex -p babel '"-'

Psmith, the TeX bot, in fixed font mode: Here's the output from texdef:

\-:
macro:->\discretionary {-}{}{}
Psmith, the TeX bot, in fixed font mode: Here's the output from texdef:

11:19 PM
@tohecz babel has a shorthand or simply -\hspace{0pt} so tex sees it as two words

@DavidCarlisle yeah, or (what I did in the end) \showhyphens and then \-

@tohecz yes or that:-)

damn some people should learn latex properly:
frames have $<= 10\%$ bad catalog stars

$\sigma<M>$ vs $<M>$

In Figure [\ref{pic5}]

11:34 PM
@tohecz What do you expect? ;-) ASCII math it is. :)

@egreg but the last one is unbelievable. The first 2 are latex thing, but the 3rd one is a thing of knowing how an article should look like, or not?!

@tohecz Aren't citation numbers in square brackets? :P

@egreg gotcha! :D
itemize items almost 1 page long :-/ and what am I supposed to do with that?

@tohecz \subsection*

@egreg yeah, but some of the items in the same itemize are only 1 sentence. I'm afraid I gonna let it be
@egreg Don't you know: star magnitude: $6^m$ or $6^{\mathrm{m}}$ ?

11:41 PM
@tohecz Do an "inline" itemize: no left margin, the bullet in the space for the indentation or in the left margin (and no indent), if the style allows for it.

@egreg two columns => no left margin in 1 column
I'm more thinking about at least making it enumeration (so that it doesn't look so bad)

@tohecz So just the bullet in place of the indent: \noindent\makebox[\parindent]{\textbullet}

that means inconsistency with the other articles, but probably better in this case. That means I can do it using enumitem I think (I use it anyways)

@tohecz I guess the m is a variable, so it's in italics.

@egreg nono, it is a unit

11:45 PM
The apparent magnitude (m) of a celestial body is a measure of its brightness as seen by an observer on Earth, adjusted to the value it would have in the absence of the atmosphere. The brighter the object appears, the lower the value of its magnitude. Generally the visible spectrum (vmag) is used as a basis for the apparent magnitude, but other regions of the spectrum, such as the near-infrared J-band, are also used. In the visible spectrum Sirius is the brightest star in the night sky, while in the near-infrared J-band, Betelgeuse is the brightest. History {|class="wikitable" style="...

@egreg but they use $6^m$ to say "magnitude 6"

@tohecz Pass.

@egreg what?

@tohecz I pass on this. I really don't know. Find an astronomy book.

@egreg or let it be. It should be them who knows all the details
btw, this is a nice winter edition picture: