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12:20 AM
Lots of peeving in here:
Q: Is "get" always bad?

snumpyBack in grammar, one of the many rules we were given was to always avoid "get," "got," or "gotten" due to their ambiguity and tendency toward poor grammar as in: What happened to your arm? It got broke. rather than What happened to you arm? It was broken. and I got a ticket. r...

It seems more a rant, than a question.
(Should I say fart?)
How do you call words that differ for a letter, and the letter order?
Uh, what?
Q: English term for a word that differs from another one by just one letter

RegDwightWhen I was a child, pretty much every children's magazine I subscribed to used to publish those little word-chain games where you had to get from one word to another — often an antonym — by replacing one letter at a time. To simplify (or complicate) things a little, you were allowed to take only ...

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For example, "fart" and "rant" have just a letter that makes them different.
(OK, I am without hope. I will go fund a site together vgv8.)
You mean him have inuff monies?
12:35 AM
I have heard that they have blocked him until Christmas. That has been a really weird idea.
(Sigh! I did it again.)
Who are those they?
I dunno; I have read it on Teachers' Longue.
Ah, I thought you were talking about ELU.
Nope. On EL&U he is blocked until the first of December.
Well, you know that better than I.
Me is just happy he is not on Drupal Answers.
(Estas contenta mi!)
It's a shame Google Translate doesn't translate in Esperanto. I can only play with (Ki)Swahili.
I have my own monies! (He said, late like snow in August.)
12:50 AM
@Cerberus: Hello ya!
@Reg: You're right, I should probably vote only for myself. It is just that it is hard sometimes because I do not particularly like all that is consensus around these parts.
@Kiam: UIHJóaakma!
(Something like that must be Esperanto for "hello".)
Another bottomless pit:
Q: "Did you find" versus "have you found"

Edward83What is the difference between "Did you find?" and "Have you found?" When should I use the first sentence, and when the second one?

@Cerberus: Just vote for what you think is correct. If you are right, somebody will follow you, and the question will be closed.
Yeah my eyes involuntarily skipped that question's title as though it didn't exist,
12:53 AM
If you are not right, you will be… oh well, I should not reveal secrets.
@Kiam: You're probably right.
Now you made me think: How do you say hello in Esperanto?
Waaahh I feel loathing boiling up already as I am browsing the possible duplicates for that question.... noooo....
It is probably something like "hello".
Or "dias".
Oh for crying out loud! Saluton!
But does E have only one word of greeting?
1:00 AM
@Cerberus: What do you mean?
You can also say "bonan tagon," if you want to say "good morning."
Well, consider French, which has salut, bonjour, allô, ohé...
Dutch hoi, hallo, dag, goedendag, hee, gegroet...
There are more ways to greet; saluton is more generic.
But doesn't E have something resembling hello?
That is the translation for hello.
That doesn't really resemble it...
Is E against synonyms?
1:08 AM
It's how you say hello in Esperanto. Virino doesn't resemble woman, but it's what you say in Esperanto.
So far, I have not found synonyms in Esperanto, even though I am sure you can translate some English words in more ways.
Virino is a rather interesting take on the essence of womanhood!
Why didn't they take something like ano?
I mean, virgo is usually a young woman (anus is Latin for old woman).
(Which is probably not related to anus "ring" btw.)
Virino is vir-in-o.
-in- is the suffix for words referring to females.
Ah, I see... well, -go is probably also a suffix fixed onto vir in Latin...
For example, knabino means female child.
Ah, and kna- comes from gnatus, son?
-bino- sounds rather Italian.
1:14 AM
Fraulino means Mrs.
Haha that sounds so funny, mixing Latin and Germanic roots.
What is being asked here?
Q: How is bee in your bonnet alluded to this passage?

ukhardyAh! woe is me, woe, woe is me! Alack and well-a-day! For pity, sir, find out that bee Which bore my love away. I'll seek him in your bonnet brave, I'll seek him in your eyes; Nay, now I think they've made his grave I' th' bed of strawberries.

Well, I suppose a case could be made for considering -in- Germanic too.
@Reg: That sounds like interpreting literature. I forgot whether that was permissible in this form. Probably not.
The OP wants to know what is meant by bee in your bonnet in that line.
Feb 16 at 14:37, by RegDwight
That's why I find it so funny, you take German words and French/Spanish grammar.
@Cerberus I have no idea if that is really what he wants to know. I mean, I can't even parse the title.
@RegDwight Exactly! It is all so strange to me, I could never get used to E I fear. My future is doomed!
@Reg: He doesn't seem to know what "to allude" means exactly, nor what constituents belong with the verb.
1:19 AM
Well, you should get used to grammar: it is more Slavic.
Eh! But what do I know of Slavic grammar...not much of that is known in most Western-European cultures...
I just like everything to become Latin. Is that so difficult?
By the way, boy is knabo, and child is infano.
We used to all speak it; we should just go back. Besides, you have little to complain about, since it is closest to your language.
To which I happen to be listening right now, incidentally.
Hm. I'm normally no fan of coercing people into raising their accept rate, but
27 questions, 0% accept rate.
Yeah, weird, especially since it has been pointed out to him several times now, which he must have read in his inbox-thingy.
1:24 AM
It is closer to my language, and it is even in the same language branch!
But how would you imagine coercion to work?
@Cerberus I was talking about them comments, me's no fan of them.
You burn his feet.
Is that too much?
@Kiam: There, see? Usque ab hoc tempore Latine loquamur!
@Reg: Ah, I see.
You place him together vgv8, in the same room.
1:25 AM
@Cerberus Dear God, bitte nicht. No Latin today, please.
Urbi et orbi!
And have the dinosaur trample both of them?
Yay, the Church!
Verba volant, scripta manent!
@kiamlaluno You are so too late to the party.
I know, I am not that cool.
1:26 AM
But my favourite Latin quote is: Graeca sunt, non leguntur. (Those words are Greek: they are not read.) Just say Latina sunt; non leguntur.
If I would remember what the "Sibilla" said, then I would make a big O.
Mar 12 at 0:45, by Robusto
Timeo Danaeos et dona ferentes.
Approximately 500,000 Latin quotes follow.
Yay, and yay!
I fear the Greeks even when they show up empty-handed.
1:28 AM
"Ibis redibis numquam peribis in bello."
And that is even a Yes Minister quote as well, so double yay.
Nobody may post any additional Latin sentences until everybody's memorized those already posted.
@RegDwight — What is being asked there is "Will you do my English homework for me?"
If anyone will commence a YM quoting session, I have no objections.
@Kiam: What is that from again?
@Reg: Your wish is my command.
@Cerberus You know all of Latin by heart anyhow. That's no fun.
1:30 AM
It's the response of a Sybil.
"Domino et domo."
@Reg: Thanks but I wish.
@kiamlaluno ἤξεις ἀφήξεις, οὐ θνήξεις ἐν πολέμῳ.
@Kiam: Our permit has been revoked. I am afraid we may not quote Latina ny more.
You will come, you will go away, you will not die in a war...
Yay of course we can still do Greek quotes... by my Greek kinda sucks.
1:32 AM
I just remember a Sybil's response. Basing on where you would put the comma, you would get the opposite meaning.
If the Sybil was in a coma you'd get f*ck all out of her.
Hmm... but that comma ambiguity only applies to the Latin quote, not to the Greek one.
Haha, shamed you into it.
I hate this. I cannot write two equal letters in row. I must write slower.
"Equal letters"?
1:34 AM
Identical, prolly.
Yes… comma, letter, assault...
I like my letters totally subservient. They are not my equal.
If I keep the key pressed, I am not going to write anything.
Does anyone like Science Fiction here?
Or is that too plebeian a genre...
Mi, mi!
1:36 AM
Not me, not me!
Wait is that evil Esperanto ambiguous oracles again...
(Let's change reply, if it is too plebeian—whatever it means.)
@Martha — Just remember, the urinal biscuits are not for eating.
1:37 AM
@Robusto OMg, that's so gross. Thwack.
I should have said "min, min!"
Doesn't anyone have a vaguely linguistic topic to discuss?
@RegDwight — You channeling @Martha now?
@Robusto Me going to bed now.
1:38 AM
@Cerberus — Urinal biscuits are linguistic if you eat them.
Oh dammit DST has ended.
@RegDwight Well, if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.
@Rob: Are they? Then pass me some if you will.
Are we on CET, then?
I always forget what those letters stand for... probably...
1:39 AM
@Robusto I will gladly get out of any kitchen where an American Dad in nurse drag serves urinal biscuits.
Would you eat them in a box? Would you eat them with a fox?
I am blissfully ignorant of the context of those biscuits.
It is now 3.40 in Italy, Germany, etc...
Hold on, did they just steal one hour of my life?
The bastards.
Just out of curiosity, all you NNS in here, are you aware of this?
Green Eggs and Ham is a best-selling and critically acclaimed book by Dr. Seuss, first published on August 12, 1960. As of 2001, according to Publishers Weekly, it was the fourth-bestselling English-language children's book (novel) of all time. The story is told wholly through images and rhyming dialogue. There is no descriptive narrative or analysis. There are two main characters: The first is unnamed (but his image would evolve into Knox from Fox in Socks), the second is named Sam. Throughout the book, Sam tries to encourage the first unnamed character to try green eggs and ham, thoug...
If not, I will stop making Dr. Seuss allusions.
1:41 AM
@Robusto Aware but haven't read.
I have never heard of it... do I need to read it to my children some day?
Huuuuuuge part of American cultural background.
Ah I see...
Comparable to Milne?
@Robusto Whoa, they have cultural background in America now?
On eof my favourite children's books.
1:42 AM
Practically every American knows that book by heart.
Okay, so the book is about McDonalds and Oprah?
That was low.
I think I should really get out of this kitchen. It's getting way too hot.
That Sam-I-Am, that Sam-I-am!
I do not like that Sam-I-Am!

Would you like green eggs and ham?

I would not like them Sam-I-Am.
1:43 AM
Sounds like a movie with Sean Penn.
I Am Sam is a 2001 American drama film written and directed by Jessie Nelson, and starring Sean Penn as a father with a developmental disability, Dakota Fanning as his intelligent seven-year-old daughter, and Michelle Pfeiffer as his lawyer. Dianne Wiest, Loretta Devine, Richard Schiff and Laura Dern appear in supporting roles. Jessie Nelson and Kristine Johnson, who co-wrote the screenplay, researched the issues facing adults with developmental disabilities by visiting the non-profit organization L.A. Goal (Greater Opportunities for the Advanced Living). They subsequently cast two actors...
I recommend giving it a read. It shouldn't take @Reg more than a month or so to wade through it.
@Robusto You are being too generous.
(I will start singing "row, row, row your boat…")
@RegDwight — That movie title is a reference to the book, to be sure. Or at least an allusion.
I'll remember it if I ever need good children's books.
1:44 AM
@Robusto What about this?
William James Adams Jr., (born March 15, 1975), better known by his stage name Will.i.am () and occasionally by his other stage name Zuper Blahq, is an American rapper, musician, songwriter, singer, actor and producer. Will.i.am came to prominence in the 1990s as a member of the hip hop group The Black Eyed Peas along with rappers apl.de.ap and Taboo and, later, singer Fergie. As a music producer, he has produced with other artists including Michael Jackson, Rihanna, Britney Spears, U2, Usher, Nicki Minaj, Cheryl Cole, and Daddy Yankee. Early life Will.i.am was born and raised in the p...
That Will.i.am, that Will.i.am
I do not like that Will.i.am.
(Time for a soup!)
Is Winnie-the-Pooh, the books, popular in the land-they-stole-from-Indians?
Would you like the Black-Eyed Peas?
I would not like the Black-Eyed Peas!
(What kind of soup?)
1:46 AM
@Cerberus Pea soup, obviously.
@kiamlaluno — Time for some soup, not a soup!
@Reg: Huh?
Geezis, I should start charging you NNS bastids for English lessons.
I meant, time for a (cup of) soup.
@Robusto You are already. You are stealing our time. Which according to your capitalist matra amounts to stealing our monies.
1:47 AM
@RegDwight — Stealing? Really?
I forced you to sit here and not go to bed, where you belong?
Incidentally, if you see mistakes in my English that you think are not due to sloppiness or bad composition, but rather vocabulary or grammar, don't hesitate to correct me! I do really appreciate it.
Yes! Someone just stole a whole hour off my life! Are you going to tell me it wasn't you?
Though people seldom dare.
@Cerberus — I rarely see them out of you. Only very, very rarely from @Reg. But some of the others in chat just now whom I could mention ... well, 'nuff said.
It was I. But I only did it out of spite, so please don't be mad at me.
1:49 AM
(I am still not sure to whom is NNS referred.)
@RegDwight: I stole a whole hour of your life in five frickin' minutes !!! Beat that!!!
@Rob: But if you do notice them, you will be doing me a favour if you correct them.
@Robusto Yeah, I'm not saying I'm not impressed!
NNS = probably non-native speakers.
@Cerberus — Mais certainment
1:50 AM
Oh well, I am off.
@Robusto I told you you should post it as a question!
yesterday, by RegDwight
Well, you could pull an Attila and ask a question yourself. "What does GAFT mean?" or "What does HAA mean?" are only two excellent questions that immediately spring to mind.
Hey ... you're plagiarizing me again.
** GAFT Ghana Association of French Teachers (est. 1958)
* GAFT Greater Apostolic Faith Temple, Inc. (San Diego, CA)
Oh God.
Bye @Kiam!
1:51 AM
Oh Lord.
Feb 11 at 15:10, by Robusto
This chat will self-destruct in 5 minutes. You have 5 minutes to get clear of the chat room.
@Cerberus I meant I am off the list.
@Cerberus — Hey, we are allowed only one licensed Turing machine at a time per chat these days. Those are the rules and they are clear and inflexible.
Cerberus is going Society of Core Analysts on our sorry asses.
1:52 AM
Or else he's going Society of Sore Anal Cysts on our analyses.
Cerberus was just trying the program he wrote in AHK, and is happy with it.
@kiamlaluno That word, "off". You keep using it. But I don't think you know what it means.
That is exaggerated. I use it once every Pope's death.
Mar 22 at 12:55, by Robusto
GAFT = Get A Frickin' Thesaurus ... except without the euphemism.
Has anyone ever conversed with Jabberwacky (I think that's what it is called)?
@Rob: Ah! I have seen you use that before.
1:54 AM
@kiamlaluno Whoa! Two Popes died within the last two minutes? That's a new record!
GAFTAD = Get A Frickin' Thesaurus And Dictionary.
There's also the irate variation GAFTADAH.
I didn't know that.
@Robusto Spell out GATTACA for me.
Should I do anything, as sending flowers?
Which appends Ass Hat to the directive.
1:55 AM
Yeah I know what you mean by F...
@kiamlaluno You should be eating a soup.
The black eyed peas are done.
Gattaca is a 1997 science fiction film written and directed by Andrew Niccol. It stars Ethan Hawke, Uma Thurman and Jude Law with supporting roles played by Loren Dean, Ernest Borgnine, Gore Vidal and Alan Arkin. The film presents a biopunk vision of a society driven by liberal eugenics where potential children are selected through preimplantation genetic diagnosis to ensure they possess the best hereditary traits of their parents. A genetic registry database uses biometrics to instantly identify and classify those so created as "valids" while those conceived by traditional means are deri...
No peas, no soup.
By the way, what is wrong with "I'm off"?
1:56 AM
The Attica Prison riot occurred at the Attica Correctional Facility in Attica, New York, United States in 1971. The riot was based in part upon prisoners' demands for better living conditions, and was led in large part by a small band of political revolutionaries. On September 9, 1971, responding to the death of prisoner George Jackson, a black radical activist prisoner who had been shot to death by corrections officers in California's San Quentin Prison on August 21, about 1,000 of the prison's approximately 2,200 prisoners rioted and seized control of the prison, taking 33 staff hostage...
"Off to bed I go."
@Cerberus Ich weiß, was "Jaja" heißt. "Jaja" heißt "Leck mich am Arsch".
@Cerberus — When you say it, nothing.
@Reg: Wie? Bist du krank im Kopf?
@RegDwight — Someone's gonna get flagged.
1:57 AM
@Cerberus That's a very popular saying.
Er is Krank den ganzen Körper voll ...
Is it? Are you drunk too?
@Cerberus What's wrong with kiamlaluno's "off" is that he isn't.
Which may be ungrammatical German but I don't care.
@Reg: Hey that isn't very nice. I don't want him gone.
1:58 AM
That is why I said it.
@Cerberus Neither do I. I just point out the discrepancy.
If someone says "ich hol ihm mal runter", is that commonly understood to mean what I think it means?
@Cerberus No.
That would be ich hole mir einen runter.
1:59 AM
@RegDwight I deliberately misinterpreted you.
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