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2:07 PM
@FAE Our law is... complicated. As far as I know, that only goes for 12-16.
15-18 is definitely illegal.
 
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@ArdaXi Yeah, I'd heard something about that as well.
 
But really, as long as the parents are fine with it, nobody has anything to worry about.
 
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Right
 
(Which is why it's really important to make sure the parents of your SO like you, at my age. Especially for guys.)
 
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@ArdaXi At least here, the parents are less likely to have shotguns.
 
2:13 PM
True.
 
@FAE In Germany, about half of the households in rural areas have at least one working firearm in the house.
The average is something like 0.3 firearm per adult citizen, but the distribution is such that there are comparatively few in the cities.
 
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@MartinSojka Yeah, I'm pretty sure that isn't the same in the Netherlands though, which is where I meant by "here". I'm pretty sure almost all the households in the rural area where I grew up in NY had working firearms.
 
My state recently passed an open carry law
So far there hasn't really been any noticeable change lol
Also, Morning, Bridge
 
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@SaintWacko Hello!
 
@SaintWacko Which state?
 
2:22 PM
gyurgh
 
Good morning, Bridge
 
I forgot my headphones today :(
and the speakers on this computer sound like shit
 
@fbueckert I got a Hellfire Ring
 
@OrigamiRobot Oklahoma
 
@SaintWacko I don't like people having the "concealed carry" right anyway. I prefer to see if they are armed.
 
2:22 PM
@MartinSojka I don't really care
If someone's going to do something bad with a gun, they're not going to worry about whether concealing it is illegal
 
@MartinSojka Punishments are more severe for people with a CCW than for those without.
 
Haha, my tablet speakers sound better than the speakers on this computer
 
At least in NC
 
@OrigamiRobot Heh. I wasted a machine at MP3; couldn't down the bosses.
 
@fbueckert I did the same thing. "Difficulty comparable to Inferno Diablo" my ass.
My ring is awful, but it's still +35% XP
 
2:25 PM
@OrigamiRobot Indeed. Inferno Diablo was tons easier.
But, regardless. Now to farm two more keys, and see if anyone wants to carry me at MP10.
On the plus side, I did find a Blackthorne's belt!
Should be pretty decent.
 
@fbueckert I have accepted the fact that I will never find another A3 key again
 
@OrigamiRobot Took me forever to find the last key I needed.
At the very least, it was awesome experience.
 
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Q: How do I assassinate a Knight for "Knight in White Assassination?"

agent86The achievement "Knight in White Assassination" requires that you've: Assassinated a Knight in any Spartan Ops mission. Knights are not really known for standing still with their backs turned - what's the easiest way to get this achievement?

 
blooaouuoaaroouarorugh
 
@GnomeSlice Bless you.
 
2:29 PM
@OrigamiRobot You're going to keep doing that, aren't you.
 
As often as I can.
 
10 hours ago, by OrigamiRobot
@GnomeSlice I think you meant "Hello Bridge"
Harumph.
I have a question for you bridge
How do you pick what you want to do.
 
In what context?
 
@GnomeSlice In life?
 
@fbueckert Yes, that.
 
2:31 PM
@GnomeSlice I had decided by age 10 that I was going to be a programmer.
 
@fbueckert ...I think I had decided that exact same thing by age ten... yeah, no.
 
Like as a career?
 
@GnomeSlice Every time I fuck up at something, I blindly fumble around until I'm doing something else.
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Rinse and repeat.
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz You make it sound so easy...
 
Except that I enjoyed it all the way through the rest of elementary school, and high school, and turns out I have a knack for it.
 
2:33 PM
I'm at a point now where I have to start making progress in my life. But I have no goals whatsoever.
 
I had decided at age 10 that I was going to be a paleontologist.
 
@OrigamiRobot How did that go?
I don't actually know what you do currently.
Are you a paleontologist?
 
I am not.
 
The thing is that I don't spend any of my free time doing this thing called 'learning'.
Even with things I enjoy, I find it incredibly stressful...
Like music.
 
At the end of high school, it was pretty much "Hey, electricity kind of makes sense to me. Let's go with that."
 
2:35 PM
@GnomeSlice Because it is. Life is going to happen, whether you want it to or not. The best you can do is pick a direction for it to happen in.
 
@OrigamiRobot That sounds like my dad. He started in college studying to be an electrical engineer, and he had to take a computer science course. He'd never even seen one before, and now he's the smartest computer nerd ever.
@LessPop_MoreFizz I feel like I'm wasting my time studying for specialty skills...
 
I found my EE courses pretty interesting
 
I'm incapable of learning anything.
 
I stuck with programming, though
Sometimes I wish I had chosen mechanical engineering instead
 
@SaintWacko I was the opposite.
 
2:37 PM
Eventually I think I'll get degrees in both
 
My dad found his EE courses really dull. He switched into computer science and became a programmer or something.
 
Which is generally considered a degree in robotics
 
@SaintWacko Heh, is it?
All I do is try to avoid thinking about my life.
 
I use microcontrollers to feed my programming hungers from time to time.
 
@GnomeSlice See, in this day and age, that's sort of required in more or less everything.
 
2:38 PM
@LessPop_MoreFizz the hell is this
 
@GnomeSlice Yep, there isn't actually a robotics degree, but ME and CS are what you need to build and program robots
 
@fbueckert I know. But I'm just so drained all the time, I never want to do anything at all
 
@SaintWacko Lego Mindstorms
 
@GnomeSlice That's generally not a viable long-term strategy :P
@fbueckert I had 'em
Didn't really do much with them, though
They were too limiting
 
@SaintWacko Don't forget EE!
 
2:39 PM
@SaintWacko Hence the 'stick-my-head-in-the-sand' thing.
 
I did build a tank that actually fired, though!
 
@SaintWacko Me too!
 
@GnomeSlice Nice! How did you have it fire?
 
I had the remote control for one of the sets... and I made a little spinner that pulled the trigger mechanically.
 
@GnomeSlice Thing is, what do you enjoy doing?
 
2:40 PM
You just had to spin one of teh motors a certain way.
@fbueckert Honestly? Not much.
 
Yeah, I had mine remote controlled, too
 
If you find something you really like to do, it feels much less like work.
 
@GnomeSlice Did you use the thing where if you push a technic pin out of a hole, it pops out?
 
I like music, but I find creating it amazingly stressful. I play video games, but that's just escapism.
 
@GnomeSlice Job found! New job: Hobo.
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2:41 PM
@fbueckert What you don't know is that I've considered the pros and cons of that already.
 
@GnomeSlice Have you no ambition? No drive?
 
@SaintWacko Er.. no there was a launcher thing
@fbueckert Not really, no.
 
Isn't there something you WANT to do?
 
@GnomeSlice Oh. I didn't have one of those
I don't think so, at least
 
I had the star wars mindstorms set too.
 
2:42 PM
I had a motor which turned a gear, which pushed a rod forward, which pushed the technic piece out of its hole, and when it does that the piece pops out with pretty good force
 
@fbueckert I don't. Is that a bad thing?
 
@SaintWacko Oh, no this was a spring loaded thing with a little trigger.
Not nearly as cool as yours
 
@ArdaXi Depends. Do you have a stable job?
 
I'm 17 years old.
 
That image has four of them.
 
2:43 PM
@ArdaXi It isn't a helpful thing. Especially when you just asked how to decide what to do with your life.
 
@ArdaXi Damn, man. Ok. No job for you.
 
@ArdaXi Well, that does give you some excuse
 
the green things on the left. The little black bits were the triggers.
 
@GnomeSlice Eh-heh
 
@OrigamiRobot That was @GnomeSlice, not me.
 
2:43 PM
Didn't quite work
 
@fbueckert Well, I have a "job."
 
The trick in life is finding something you enjoy doing, and getting somebody to pay you for it.
 
@GnomeSlice FIFY
 
@ArdaXi I didn't mean you you. I meant you as in the person asking.
 
@fbueckert The closest I come to 'enjoying' things is listening to music and playing video games.
 
2:45 PM
@GnomeSlice Oh, okay
Yeah, I have a few of those
 
Bug we've already established that I'm an uncultured slob (Star Wars) so I wouln't make a great critic.
 
Didn't think about using them on my tank, though
 
There it is.
 
@GnomeSlice I suppose you could always apply for game tester positions.
 
@GnomeSlice Yeah, I had a couple came with my alpha team sets
 
2:45 PM
@fbueckert Not exactly a ... what's the word... career thing.
 
These are the robotics sets I prefer
 
@SaintWacko I just mounted a motor above the trigger with one of those egg-shaped joiners on teh shaft and spun it to pull the trigger.
 
@GnomeSlice You could always just work at McDonald's for the rest of your life.
 
@GnomeSlice Ah, nice
 
@fbueckert I don't really see any other option, to be honest.
 
2:47 PM
Let me see if I can find a picture of the robot I built with one of those Vex kits
 
I'm almost done my Interactive Multimedia program and don't feel like I could make any money at any of it
 
@GnomeSlice Or you could take a page out of @LessPop_MoreFizz's modus operandi and job jump until you find something you like to do.
 
I should just run away with a pretty girl and we can both work at commodity jobs for the rest of our lives
 
@fbueckert Those wouldn't be specialist jobs right?
i.e. things requiring any sort of education
 
2:48 PM
@GnomeSlice Specialist jobs require training. You've just said you don't think you can make money doing what you're being trained for.
 
@fbueckert I don't know if that's a product of my self-esteem or my actual skill level, but I don't feel good at anything
 
If you don't mind not being home for long stretches, long distance trucking is also a job.
 
However, I'm NOT good at anything, because I haven't spent any time gettign good at anything in my entire life
 
Pays well, and all you need is your Class 1's.
 
@fbueckert I don't drive, unfortunately.
I have Tourette's Syndrome.
 
2:49 PM
@GnomeSlice Depends what you mean by 'specialist'. I've done lots of things that require some amount of education.
 
@OrigamiRobot Haha, that's cool!
 
I haven't taken the TEST, but I don't think it'd be a good idea.
 
But the thing is that mostly, all you really need is to be able to communicate and write and research and stay organized. Beyond that, you'll pick up the skills you need as you need them.
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz I just break up jobs into two loosely defined areas: commodity jobs (anyone can do it, i.e. flipping burgers, stocking shelves) and specialist jobs
 
Writing a press release isn't that different from writing a letter, isn't that different from writing a paper for school, once you learn the quirks of the format.
@GnomeSlice That's a bad dichotomy.
 
2:51 PM
@LessPop_MoreFizz That's somewhat relieving to know.
@LessPop_MoreFizz By the way, how did you end up doing what you do?
Out of curiosity.
 
There are definitely highly specialized skilled trades that require some amount of specialized training and liscenses or certifications, like being an auto mechanic, or lots of IT or tech jobs, or medicine or law.
But most jobs just require that you be able to read and write and speak and think. You can learn the rest on the job pretty quickly.
@GnomeSlice I saw a listing and applied.
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz So you're talking about jobs I could apply for now, without getting any specific degree?
...That would be ideal.
I think.
 
@GnomeSlice Make a radio show about rad things people don't know they'll love. It seems like you do this anyway...
 
@badp You know, I've thought about writing or something, but it's a little tricky to start out at that shit. Plus, my writing isn't actually that good, as much as I like to tell myself it is.
@badp Just indie games :P
 
and music
 
@SaintWacko That was my senior design project. I'm holding the camera. We had to build a lunar excavator robot for a NASA competition. We did bad, but not the worst.
 
@badp I guess I do that too.
...What would I do with that though?
 
@GnomeSlice Most jobs out there require that you have a degree, but not a specific degree.
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz ...That's interesting.
...Why?
 
The degree isn't really about what you learned in history class, it's about proving that you can read and write and think at a high enough cognitive level to actually get the thing.
 
2:55 PM
@GnomeSlice See if a local radio doesn't have a hour or so of "free" airtime or anything. I dunno
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz Oh. Would a degree in interactive multimedia count then.
 
@GnomeSlice Sure.
 
@badp Ah, see problem with that.
One of my Tourette's tics is snorting.
It comes and goes.
 
In fact, that's a pretty strong degree for all kinds of career paths.
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz Not a lot of writing involved though.
At least, in my program.
@LessPop_MoreFizz How do you even know what job listings to look for.
 
2:56 PM
@GnomeSlice Interactive media is all about communication. Which is the number one skill you'll need in any non-technical job. (And lots of technical ones too.)
 
Like, how did you find your CameraCar job listing.
@LessPop_MoreFizz Ah, yeah, well, all we do in my program is learn how to use various software.
 
@GnomeSlice shotgun approach. Read them all, apply to the ones you think you'd be capable of doing or enjoy doing.
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz That... actually doesn't sound like such a bad idea.
My other alternative is to join the military.
To learn some discipline or something.
I don't get it man, I used to be a genius.
Now I can't learn anything academic at all.
 
@GnomeSlice You never had to work at anything before, but now you do, and you don't know how
I know, I had the same problem
It's tough
 
@SaintWacko That's exactly what happened, but it's been like 5 years since I hit that wall.
 
2:59 PM
What do you mean by genius?
 
I hit it in grade 10. Or 11.
 

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