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9:00 PM
@HenningMakholm HAHA, SE chat are the only ones I have used.
 
@JasperLoy It's for the better.
 
If only I were older I could have had firsthand experience on usenet
 
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4chan reminds me of the novel toto chan.
 
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Wow, I have 29 bronze and 11 silver badges now. Reminds me of Jer 29:11.
 
@JasperLoy ?
 
9:01 PM
@HenningMakholm I think I am still too confused to have a sensible conversation about it.
I don't like it when I did a course with a feeling of grasping it more or less then getting a good grade and finally, later, realising that I don't really understand any of it.
It's great.
 
@Argon See this comment
 
And happens with every course.
 
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@Charlie Jeremiah Chapter 29 Verse 11. You are Catholic you should know better than me!!!
 
@MattN. These are confusing issues -- in part because we're brought up to think of set theory as "the real world", mathematically speaking. So it is hard to intuit about non-standard models of it.
 
@JasperLoy "For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, saith the LORD, thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give you a future and a hope."
 
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9:03 PM
@Argon Yes. I am not Christian though.
 
@JasperLoy i don't memorize the bible....that's for fanatic...
 
@robjohn I see. Odd.
@JasperLoy Nor am I
:)
 
@Argon or this one
 
The scoundrels at SO, they closed my question as "not constructive"! Grrr!
 
@robjohn Hmmm... He seems to have quite a dislike for the chat here!
 
9:05 PM
@Argon i had a colleague who quoted the bible...that drove me crazy!how i hated it..
 
@HenningMakholm What was it about?
 
@JasperLoy Are you buddhist? You speak of other lives, though I'm not sure if that's poetic language as usual.
 
@MattN. See for yourself here
 
@HenningMakholm Yes, but I feel like I'm almost there.
 
@Charlie I dislike it as well. It seems a bit arrogant to me.
 
9:06 PM
@Argon yes, it is.
 
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@anon I am of no religion officially but study them all. Unofficially, I believe in many things Buddhist, so you can think of me as one.
 
How is it not constructive?
This is a better question than at least 50% of questions asked on SO per day.
 
@Argon he used to be the owner of this room when I started on MSE
 
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@anon I also noticed you have a great command of the English language. I feel it in my bones.
 
@robjohn I thought so, so I was wondering why I never saw him around here.
 
9:07 PM
You've merely adopted the language. I was born in it.
 
@MattN. Beats me. I suspect they thought it was a rant. However since I think I'm misunderstanding something, I need to provide examples of my misunderstandings in order to enable people who know better to correct me.
 
Although I am unilingual, to my great shame.
 
@anon liked that phrase
 
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@anon Anyway, don't be afraid to ping me. I love pings. But it's OK if you want to talk to the air. =)
 
@anon Go stand in the corner -- someone bring the donkey ears hat.
 
9:08 PM
@JasperLoy
 
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@Argon Yay!
 
:)
 
Ok, bye bye for today, I shall go afk.
 
@JasperLoy thought you did not like it...
 
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@Charlie Did not like what?
 
9:10 PM
@skull hi!!!
 
Hi @skullpatrol !
 
Hi gang :-D
 
@JasperLoy
 
@JasperLoy
 
@JasperLoy
 
9:11 PM
@JasperLoy
 
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OMG, the flagger is gonna flag all that as spam!
 
@Argon
 
@Charlie
 
$\Huge\text{@JasperLoy}$
 
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@skullpatrol OMG!
 
9:12 PM
@Argon :D
 
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That was a little too LOUD.
 
@JASPERLOY
 
so it begins
 
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Friday Spirit is making all you nuts!
 
@JasperLoy
@JasperLoy i don't need friday spirits to make me nut
 
9:14 PM
@Henning: which question was closed?
 
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@anon Hey I was looking up turtle pie just now. I was not sure what it was. I think I get it now...
 
@Argon you know, sometimes i'm distracted, just reading my stuff, solving my stuff, with my earphones..then someone ping me... i almost have a heart attack
 
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I confer Jayesh the title of Low Hanging Fruit Upvoter. I always get him to vote my lhf answers if it is still zero after a while.
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He's very kind.
 
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I also confer Jonas the title of Chat Disappearer. He appears in chat for a few days and disappears for a few days.
 
9:24 PM
I confer Jasper the title of True Blue. There is nothing to prove.
 
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@skullpatrol Truth needs no proof. But proof needs truth. QED.
 
hi
 
hi
 
9:26 PM
$$\sqrt{2\pi n} \left(\frac{n}{e}\right)^n \sim n!$$
 
what a melancholic friday...
 
anyone good at local fields
 
hi @HenningMakholm
 
please help me with the end of a proof :S
 
@Charlie Why?
 
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9:28 PM
@jdoe You can always ask your prof you know...
 
@Argon i don't know..i'm felling a little blue...
 
@Charlie Like Jasper?
 
@JasperLoy, I don't know if I can!
 
Hahahahaha
 
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@jdoe Why not?
 
9:28 PM
it doesn't seem to work that way here
 
@Argon no
 
I don't really know
 
@JasperLoy what?
 
@Charlie "The blue square"
 
We don't get time with them
 
9:29 PM
@Argon know when you feel a little sad for no reason?
 
@Henning: Seems a good question to me (I guess you were misinterpreted). You can always edit/improve it. Closed questions can be re-opened.
 
@Charlie Ya
 
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I had three lecturers who were so bad I wonder how they even got their PhDs...
 
@JasperLoy it's not that
@Argon i woke up happy , then i got a little melanholic...
 
This can be flagged
 
9:30 PM
the lecturer knows the material too well
 
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@skullpatrol I doubt it.
 
@skullpatrol i don't like this type of joke
 
so he goes 10x too fast, as if all the theorems are trivial
and he called something obvious which I couldn't even understand
 
@Charlie Niether do I.
 
@JasperLoy Don't doubt it; it's almost identical to the penultimate flagged comment of Asaf. (He was in a spontaneously heated argument with Gigili however that got racial) And according to my icon yours just got flagged.
 
9:31 PM
@Charlie I agree.
 
I got 2 books on the subject to study but they only help a littl
 
@JasperLoy See
 
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@anon I can see that myself too.
 
@JasperLoy Why would you say something like that?
 
Also, skull, you don't need to quote everything to refer to it, especially if you're referencing something a mere minute beforehand.
 
user19161
9:33 PM
@skullpatrol Say what? What got flagged?
 
Hi guys. What's up? I got an enormous amount of flags coming from your room...
Please keep in mind to only flag really tough stuff, as flags are network wide.
 
A joke of dubious taste that is now deleted was flagged.
 
Else, stick with your rooms moderators.
 
@anon could ask you to glance at my question, I might have put too much "background" intoit so that nobody wants to look here
 
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@anon It's not even a joke you know, it's just a whatever.
 
9:35 PM
Yea. And when you flag that user some times, the system bans him.
 
sorry if that's rude but if you don't likeit just say and I wont do it again :/
 
So please try to work things out before flagging. Thanks.
If something is across the border (racism for example), flag it and tell the user, so she/he's warned.
 
@JasperLoy I know.
@jdoe I am saving that sort of number theory to learn about later. Right now I want to think about groups, representations, and lie algebras.
 
@JasperLoy Sexist remarks are not just a "whatever."
 
oh are you really 21?
 
9:38 PM
yes
 
I thought you were a professor or something lol
you seem to know algebra extremely well
 
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@skullpatrol It's not sexist to me.
 
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How is it discriminatory in any way?
 
@JasperLoy You are not the victim.
 
I want to learn about representations of the absolute galois group
 
9:39 PM
That's pretty hardcore, getting into langlands territory
 
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@skullpatrol Well, I really cannot see how anyone can get upset with that, but I guess I am a retard.
 
@JasperLoy No, you are just a banana ;-)
 
I am the walrus
3
 
@JasperLoy Its just a sensitive topic that should be avoided.
@OldJohn :)
 
@OldJohn goo goo g'joob
3
 
user19161
9:42 PM
It's like some people say Indians have a funny accent. And then they make fun of the way Indians speak English. But that's not racist. It's just laughing over some really cool sounding speech.
 
I read that they used representation theory and character tables a lot in classification of finite groups, to find things like monster group
 
@jdoe yes, see this question on my other account
 
This is very interesting!
 
"that time of the month" is a standard trope for trivializing women's abilities and potential and whatnot. surely periods can be jested about in a spirit of camaraderie and understanding of biological realities, but with the connotations one wants to avoid it at the very least with people you don't know intimately.
 
Well said sea turtle.
 
9:45 PM
@anon thanks
 
I hope I get to take a course on group theory
 
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@anon Hmm, well said anon.
 
"centralizers of involutions" keeps coming up
so involutions I are order 2 elements (self inverse), and the centralizer of the set of involutions is the set of elements of G that commute with I
 
Turtles, turtles, la, la, la;
turtles, turtles, ha, ha, ha;
hmmm, I love turtles :-D
 
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@skullpatrol What has that got to do with turtles?
 
9:49 PM
@jdoe involutions do not form a subgroup except if they are themselves a self-centralizing set
 
oops!
 
since the order of a product of elements is rarely determined by the orders of the elements
 
@JasperLoy Sea turtle said it.
 
ok I corrected that
 
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@skullpatrol anon is sea turtle now? Hmm.
 
9:50 PM
my other mse account
 
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@anon ORLY?
 
maybe I can make myself a double room owner, mwuahaha
 
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You know what? Today's flags have made me think of even more things...
 
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Yesterday's flags made me think a lot already...
 
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I will continue to ponder on these issues.
 
9:51 PM
does anyone know an example of using the centralizer of involutions?
 
@JasperLoy Charlie has left now :(
 
I'm really surprised to read about flags, thought this was a really friendly chat
but I missed the whole episode
 
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@skullpatrol Is it my fault?
 
@JasperLoy YARLY
 
@JasperLoy Yes.
 
9:53 PM
@JasperLoy, what things
 
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@seaturtles Are you anon?
 
5 mins ago, by skullpatrol
Turtles, turtles, la, la, la;
turtles, turtles, ha, ha, ha;
hmmm, I love turtles :-D
 
@JasperLoy Are you superman?
 
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Oh man I did not know @anon is @sea! Do you hear two pings?
 
@anon Sadly, the unit for this kind of power is idempotent.
 
9:54 PM
I do hear two pings.
 
@seaturtles "Yup, also me." :)
 
a bit frustrating because I wanted to study two different classes today but I only managed to one because I got stuck on this theorem
 
@seaturtles Then you should be able to triangulate the location of your computers, right?
 
hi @HenningMakholm
:-)
 
I think not wanting to move on without completing the thing before is troublesome
 
user19161
9:56 PM
OK this is what I will say about the matter. (1) I am sorry if I hurt anyone's feelings. (2) It is not a sexist remark to me. (3) By labelling it as sexist, it hurts the person who has said it. QED.
 
@JasperLoy, I don't mind what you said but lets be friends
 
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@jdoe Did I say we weren't?
 
well basically I just can't find the damn thing in my book. lol
 
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@seaturtles Do you get them at the same time?
 
@JasperLoy check the profiles. my accounts in order: [???] -> anon -> sea turtles
 
10:00 PM
 
I will not speak of my first account.
 
why not
 
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@anon OMG, are you Arturo???
 
lolno
 
@jdoe mystery is like sunglasses. makes you cool without any effort.
 
10:02 PM
haha
 
@anon note the blue sunglasses on my avatar :)
 
 
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@anon Now I am really curious. I will try to figure out first. And I also have something to tell you but not now.
 
It'saversion of Ostrowskis theorem, sort of
but for general number fields, not just Q
 
10:07 PM
@Charlie do you like this^^ song?
 
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@anon Is that ordered by reputation? =)
 
I wear my sun glasses at night. @Charlie
 
@JasperLoy :-)
 
1. Collect MSE accounts 2. ??? 3. Profit.
 
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@anon Now you just love to tease me don't you?
 
10:09 PM
I do.
 
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Just to let you know, I might just discover the first account within the next 24 hours. =)
 
@peoplepower what do you mean by modding A out?
the image of the A on the left may not be the same as the A on the right side of the given isomorphism
 
Sure, but they are isomorphic.
 
so what does it mean to mod out by A?
 
what do you think about PhD?
 
10:14 PM
I see where it can go wrong, so I will think about the implicit maps a second.
 
how many PhDs have been awarded in the history of humanity
 
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@anon I have made a guess as to your first account if the order was by rep.
 
>
For fifteen days I strove to prove that there could not be any functions like those I have since called Fuchsian functions. I was then very ignorant; every day I seated myself at my work table, stayed an hour or two, tried a great number of combinations and reached no results. One evening, contrary to my custom, I drank black coffee and could not sleep. Ideas rose in crowds; I felt them collide until pairs interlocked, so to speak, making a stable combination. By the next morning I had established the existence of a class of Fuchsian functions, those which come from the hypergeometric ser
 
@anon I see now why we need to break it up into cyclic subgroups.
 
let I be an ideal of ring R, then if i in I what do we know about iR?
IR contained in I, so I guess iR must be contained in I too
 
10:28 PM
@jdoe Yes, iR and Ri are both contained in I. That is why whenever an ideal has a left or right unit, it is all of R.
 
oh that's neat
I have never had to deal with left and right ideals, I always just pick one and use that
 
@anon We have to have internal direct product for this to work, which is easily verified and which is what confused me though I know better.
 
so glad that I finally got the proof competed
 
user19161
10:45 PM
I think I should create some new accounts as well to add to the mystery. Perhaps I already have. =)
 
you can have a non abelian galois group??
 
@JasperLoy You never know.
 
hmmm
oh well S_3 isn't abelian is it?
 
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@peoplepower Are you anon?
 
@jdoe Give it a spin and see.
 
10:46 PM
what if I'm the only one who isn't anon
 
@JasperLoy Of course not.
 
is there any more efficient way to switch between stack exchange site on the website?
 
I honestly don't get what a fractional ideal is
 
I always click my profile to go to the others
 
if I is an ideal then every fractional ideal is of the form I/b (moving all the elements into the field of fractions)
 
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10:49 PM
Hey @anon I just discovered my guess is wrong. =)
 
that seems simple..... but if we don't have unique factoring of primes how is (1)/p^k any good?
because p is a prime number there, not a prime ideal
 
what something is good for is a different question than asking what something is
 
I better study the proof of unique factorization of ideals in a dedekind domain, then it'll all make sense
I think it was assumed that we would already somehow know this
 
why was there a racism/sexism discussion?
what was the joke?
 
all you need to know can be gleaned from my comment on the side panel
 
10:54 PM
@anon, are you an undergrad?
 
yes
 
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@anon Any hint for me to guess?
 
You will not find the other account. You would need to have an intricate knowledge of GitS and scour the user list.
 
how come you are choosing what to study?
 
I am unable to parse that sentence
 
10:56 PM
or are you just doing what you like in between classes?
 
yes
 
that's what I did but I seem to not have learned the right things ......
 
knowledge is king, learn the right thing.
is topology fun to anyone? or do people just learn it because they need it?
 

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