is \cs_generate_variant:Nn \cs_set:Npn { Npe, cpe } safe? re. tex.stackexchange.com/questions/708482/….

tex.stackexchange.com/questions/536974/… (which I think is about something different) and tug.org/TUGboat/tb40-1/tb124gregorio-templating.pdf page 64 (which I'm less clear about).

should I delete

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not sure whether it is rude to not ping the author of the comment/article or rude to do so ...?

@cfr MAKEFILE makefile mAkEfIlE. makefile. are all the same file: the file with case insensitive base name "MAKEFILE` and case insensitive extension ""

@cfr Yes

@cfr You can't make a variant of a p-type argument, but you can have a variant where one of the other arguments is p-type

@DavidCarlisle ^^^

@cfr I think it is a good idea to ping the author. The code for the package is not in GitHub and the documentation does not contain contact information ... and the author seems to be active here ... so, why not?

@cfr The package should contain some lines of \cs_generate_variant:Nn in my opinion to make it work even with an older latex3.

@JosephWright meanwhile pdf.js updated to the latest and greatest at texlive.net (to make @StefanKottwitz happy:-)

@DavidCarlisle Oooh

@JosephWright asymptote generates some funky pdf that the older pdf.js fell over on

@JosephWright quite a saving really

@DavidCarlisle Yes, but start-up time is hardly impacted

@DavidCarlisle Looking forward to your review on my \If...TF stuff :)

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@JosephWright thanks.

@DavidCarlisle That's a big total

@JasperHabicht I think we're talking about different people. I didn't know whether it would be rude to ping egreg or rude not to. but I think you mean wheelchart's author.

@JasperHabicht you could tell the author. however, the author can't be pinged in chat, I don't think.

@cfr They active on the site?

@JosephWright yes. you could ping them, but I don't think we can.

@cfr Link to their profile?

@matexmatics Could you pop into chat?

@cfr Magic ping sent

@JosephWright @samcarter thanks.

@DavidCarlisle one of the few things I do know about windows is the case insensitivity. (not sure if that counts as knowing something about windows, given linux systems typically need a fat partition.)

Does anyone have any suggestions about the best way to generate a bibliography into a markdown file? Most of the pandoc documentation seems to be about going from markdown to other things.

@cfr Just saw a Reddit post discussing code-switching, and the person is a Welsh speaker. Their motto: Gwell Cymraeg slac na Saesneg slic. Very nice.

@AlanMunn :-)

@AlanMunn can biber produce something you can convert maybe?

@cfr Oh, biber itself? I don't think so. When I run pandoc on a simple biblatex document it produces the citation callouts in markdown but no actual bibliography

@AlanMunn I meant in tool mode - not using a .tex at all.

@cfr Ah, ok. No idea. I've never used tool mode.

@cfr But a quick look at the docs would say no.

@AlanMunn what does a pandoc bibliography look like?

@cfr Pandoc can read .bib files no problem. So it's not a file format problem I'm having. It's actually producing the formatted bibliography itself.

@AlanMunn something like pandoc -f biblatex -t commonmark ... doesn't work?

@cfr No, that seems to convert the .bib file into the corresponding file in markdown, but doesn't produce a formatted bibliography. So there's a piece of the puzzle I'm clearly missing

@AlanMunn sorry. I realise you will have tried it. I was just trying to figure out more about what you were trying to do.

@cfr look in latex/base/ltdirchk.dtx for lots of interesting facts about filesystems we got working at the time, ones with no extension at all, had to use a directory level for sty etc, ones with no directories at all and just a flat filespace. vms that had some weird syntax with square brackets and semicolons... it's all much easier these days when web2c mostly makes everything look like a unix filesystem

@DavidCarlisle what is web2c?

@cfr I think it translates Knuth's web code (which is more or less Pascal) into C?

@cfr the underlying compilation chain for tex on texlive (not sure about miktex) the original sources are web (= documented templated pascal) but then translated to C (hence the name) to be compiled

@cfr any file system access, anything configured via texmf.cnf anything with shell-escape are all web2c features not part of the original tex code, as they come under the allowed system specific customisation parts of tex

@AlanMunn you probably need some citeproc setting, that is what I needed for and html export example. I can show you that later, currently driving.

@AlanMunn      -C, --citeproc
              Process the citations in the file, replacing them with rendered citations and adding a bibliography.  Citation processing will not take place unless bibliographic data is  supplied,  either
              through  an external file specified using the --bibliography option or the bibliography field in metadata, or via a references section in metadata containing a list of citations in CSL YAML
              format with Markdown formatting.  The style is controlled by a CSL stylesheet specified using the --csl option or the csl field in metadata.  (If…

@cfr @UlrikeFischer Thanks, I found that too, and got it to work. It's bit kludgy and manual at the moment; this is for our lab web page, so I'd like to automate it with GitHub actions so that we can just add publications to the .bib file and the pages will be generated automatically. But baby steps. :)

@cfr Oh, I see :D nevermind

But yes, I meant the author of the wheelchart package. The point is, when I created the rpgicons package, I also thought about how to make it backward compatible. I think, the wheelchart package might also need this ..

But of course you can always argue "update everything, then it will work anyways" ... it was just a thought

@PauloCereda I think I'll just tell my grandma that it's HTML embedded in pdf :D

@DavidCarlisle @UlrikeFischer I've been thinking about this tagging thing for a long time, and I know that redefining \item isn't the best idea, but, it turns out I have a horizontal list environment that compiles without problems or warnings using \DocumentMetadata as opposed to tasks which returns warnings or enumerate* from enumitem which gives errors.

@DavidCarlisle @UlrikeFischer Unfortunately, the code I have is too long for the forum (I think) and there aren't too many experts in this tagging thing so I'm stuck.

Anyway, the (working) code is here (gist.github.com/pablgonz/a5a1a3859ea0b5448f1e4efd152878fc). I'd like to know your opinion and that of others who can see it (when they have some time)... I think it's too long to ask the question in the main forum.

@PauloCereda Nothing like a sunny Saturday to eat duck with fries :D

@JasperHabicht maybe the author didn't think it could be made backwards compatible without overwriting later kernel code. (you can always test, but it gets messy.) but let's just see what the author says.

Any github actions wizards around?