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7:15 AM
@jesse_b It's still Seagal.
 
7:38 AM
Segal means Legal, or Links does not mean en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynx_(web_browser), I do say. Please do not tell me Lynx means something else, and someone better not start teling me that renaming systemd was bright, it's enough you're all making me question what "Lynx" meant. =/ What litany am I relying on if these kinetic nomenclatures be like broken pipes which do not regulate their spelling, what world has UNIX created if bash.org is Sense of Style, this broken UNIX English.
 
 
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Q: How do you continue execution after using trap EXIT in bash?

Yzmir RamirezEnvironment: GNU bash, version 3.2.57(1)-release (x86_64-apple-darwin20) I'm attempting to trap the exit from another function but then continue executing the program. In an object oriented language you could catch an exception and then continue execution without re-throwin; that is essentially ...

"I'm attempting to trap the exit from another function but then continue executing the program. In an object oriented language you could catch an exception ..."
doing exceptions and OO in Bash, oh dear oh dear
 
if you can parse a CSV with bash, you can make it object-oriented
 
@JeffSchaller this is old, but seeing it in the stars makes me want to say that if you do the kids thing properly, they'll want to do math voluntarily. :P
@JeffSchaller The unix.SE variant of a Turing Tarpit is the Bash Tarpit...
 
@ilkkachu it's mainly a result of me working with 1.5 of my kids on their math homework; I'm happy they're both relatively good at it
 
yep
(I don't think I dare ask about the 0.5 there)
 
then I won't say :)
 
1:37 PM
He said the kids are good at math not himself
 
 
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5:42 PM
I still do not get why "SWAPPINESS" (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_paging#Swappiness) is a range from 0-200 and not 100, and further, why it's not a default en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Default_(computer_science) GUI button yet. =/ (Dare I ask why I even need to change swap just to run Google Chrome Stable with 100 tabs open, when I have 10GB ram and nothing else open? I should tell Alexa to tell Chrome to swap itself. What's Chrome doing to my memory? Why do I even know what swap is.)
 
@prosody-GabeVereableContext Are you talking to somebody? Is this a continuation of some discussion? If not, please don't use this room as a place to air random grievances you might have with people who are not in this room.
 
@terdon Just talking like at a WAP.org (Washington Apple Pi) meeting, fixing computers (did not mean to complain about UNIX really) and talking openly.
 
6:02 PM
OK. It feels a lot like you're coming in here and dumping stream of consciousness rants with no context. I was really confused by your two messages :)
 
6:20 PM
@terdon Fair, I mean, I guess that's an issue sometimes, it depends. I can feel the tenseness, sometimes. Some people respond to a 300 character/2 message interaction in other ways, I guess I am programmed (well, human "program") for the friends who respond better to my talking emotionally about my iMac than others. Is it possible some might label S-o-C, while some might key into my UNIX references? I mean I make exclusively computerized friends in real life, these conversations made me me. O:)
Or in other words, I hear you, though part of me wonders, if nobody else in the room had the same painful memory_swap issues? :) Maybe if we had more people from bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=swappiness&can=2 bug tickets here, I would have gotten a clap or smile? Keeping Chrome cool (and memory available) has been an education. :P
 
yep, chrome and memory are an issue indeed.
 
:] I had to first learn about "out of memory" errors, then went to setting up SWAPDISK, then learning SWAPPINESS, if I remember correctly... lord. (I went from Mac OS System 7 in 1999 handling 100 windows with ease, to 2020 with "bleeding edge" Linux distros that can not handle 100 tabs in chrome's "active memory", though Chrome v95+ began offloading tabs so not all on RAM. I think I had Chrome crash ~500 times before got it to work. I mean should I "blame" UNIX, AJAX/Javascript or Chrome? :)
 
6:58 PM
For chrome's poor memory management? That's a tough one.
 
^Exactly. (I mean, I love Chrome, syncs to Google well, I trust.)
 
 
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8:34 PM
@prosody-GabeVereableContext Yes, I had and have issues with browsers and memory. Including Chromium, certainly.
Even my phone copes better with many browser tabs open, and it has a fraction of the memory.
 
8:50 PM
@FaheemMitha True, even though of course we're being misled, because I gather the Chrome Android build shuts tabs aggressively/quickly, giving the appearance of speed. If only there was a chrome://settings to set exact memory usage/cost as a user in Chrome builds. I imagine even moderate academics might appreciate the logic being a preference option. (I bet I can run a custom build with customized, though I may not make it past the compiler sadly, but theoretically a 1-line change in the code?)
 

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