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12:02 AM
Nope
 
@CinCout How many of these flags were NAA? Because I believe I got it after exclusively flagging NAA. But I read above that someone said they did not flag at all and still got it, that's why I changed my theory to close votes (which are an effect of flagging NAA if I understand correctly?)
 
@buddemat NAA?
 
@Wolgwang Sorry, NAA -> Not An Answer
But thanks for asking, this earned me the "Thought Bubble" hat :D
Time for bed, I guess
 
@buddemat I had not flagged any NAA.
 
12:39 AM
Hey guys
@AnkitSharma what other 2 hats you got lol
catching up
time to worry
 
@Wolgwang Why did you chose these questions in particular?
Are they taylor's only edits during the winterbash
 
@nobody Taylor's only edits on new users' question before we came to know about the helping heart ..
Dec 17 at 6:56, by Panda
Anyone seen Helping Heart before?
 
@Slate Should get harmony now :) Got 25 consecutive
 
Before this:
 
Fingers crossed!
 
12:51 AM
2 hats should deliver in the coming seconds
 
haha
the hats aren't coming...
:(((((
 
1:06 AM
Strange
doesn't this qualify for helping arm?
 
@U12-F̉͋̅̾̇orward Commentators votes aren't included IMO...
 
@Wolgwang But I still should get the hat?
Why.... Am.... I.... Not.... Getting.... The.... Helping.... Arm.... Hat....?????
Also.... Harmony....!
 
@U12-F̉͋̅̾̇orward Nah Atleast I hadn't got the hat for my vote...
 
1:21 AM
Dang!
I just realized I missed my Clockwork vote today
 
@Wolgwang Could you try upvoting this, stackoverflow.com/questions/70391961/… maybe it needs 2 upvotes not from you
@Slate Harmony is not triggering :(
been like 20 mins
 
Do a few more reviews? Idk. I can go through your recent suggested edits again, but if that doesn't turn up anything, I can only guess.
 
I had 8 more reviews right after that
all reviewed
there aare more
only countd 8
 
@nobody :-( I totally forgot about that hat...
 
1:39 AM
I guess I should set up a script for clockwork.
 
Me too lol
Got helping Arm
Now waiting for Harmony
fits perfectly
@nobody I am gonna vote on every hour I am on SO
for 7 days
hopefully one timeframe would match
@Slate Strange, no hat yet
 
2:15 AM
Panda has the same issue
 
Not sure, then, but don't have time atm to look into it. I'd poke Yaakov tomorrow.
 
 
1 hour later…
3:39 AM
Thanks @Slate
 
4:35 AM
on the wb 2021 thread, monologue trigger, ask a positively scored question that gets answered. this should be modified to exclude self-answers.
probably for the other "logue" hats as well.
 
4:53 AM
Yakov should be up soon
I will ask him about the three review hats
I should get all 3 I believe
@Slate Is One Burried Penny for suggesting 1 edit which is approved.
 
5:17 AM
@Slate be the first person to do so
 
6:15 AM
Good morning
 
@U12-F̉͋̅̾̇orward don't worry I am still behind and no idea to get other hats and soon will be on a trip so miss out more
 
I'm trying to get the 3 review hats
 
I believe that there is a bug manifesting those 3 review hats
@AnkitSharma Haha
 
@U12-F̉͋̅̾̇orward what do you mean? have you managed to get any of them? I think I'm already eligible for the suggested edits one
 
I didn't get them yet
but by all means, I should get at least the suggested edits one already.
 
6:26 AM
If I approve the edit and someone to improve, it will break my chain? Or if everyone approves and I improve it will break the chain?
 
6:39 AM
@U12-F̉͋̅̾̇orward You're missing a piece of the trigger
 
@Slate And inactive for 6 months
 
@U12-F̉͋̅̾̇orward -_- Nah
 
7:09 AM
wow, you're all still here
miss me?
 
7:27 AM
I am just not going back to look at the dozen notifications that I got in this room for the past 5 days (when I said not to notify me). So if you pinged me about something that is still open, please ping me again.
 
Hi Yaakov
 
\o Yaakov
Had you expected us to find that many hats? 🤠
 
8:11 AM
Hi @YaakovEllis we need you
@YaakovEllis I need you to look into if there are bugs with the review hats, i.e. Harmony
I should get it, look here
 
8:52 AM
@YaakovEllis Or am I not fulfilling the trigger?
 
@U12-F̉͋̅̾̇orward on my list of items to look into. It is a very complicated query (but we have integration tests written on it to verify different fulfilment scenarios). Will get back to you
 
Ok! Thanks you!
 
Got Slow Trikle on Sci Fi, quite sure it is due to this answer
yesterday, by SPArcheon
@Slate - Is "Slow Trickle" trigger "get ten upvotes on an answer (or a generic post) over the course of at least 6(to 8?) days (or something very similar)"?
Slate said that this was getting close.
Probably it is not about the total number of votes.
More likely something about the timing.
In this case the question got lot of votes on first day, then it started to "trickle down"
 
@SPArcheon when did you get the hat? It looks like the answer got votes in 4 different days
 
@Eran Logged in today and got the notification
Seems likely the last vote was the trigger
@YaakovEllis you told me to remind you about this one
Thanks, I'll try to test this out and add it in if/when I get a chance. If you don't see anything on this in the next week, ping me in chat please. — Yaakov Ellis ♦ Dec 16 at 16:32
no need to fret, but I'll though I would mention it just in case.
 
9:14 AM
will we get a santa hat this year?
 
@PeterHaddad I think it is about time we get a Krampus hat instead.
@YaakovEllis also... stay tuned.
 
9:35 AM
@Slate Is the trigger for "Slow Trickle" - "get upvotes on an answer (or perhaps it works on questions too) on 4 distinct days"?
 
9:50 AM
@Eran you got it! (applies to both questions and answers)
 
@YaakovEllis thanks :). @SPArcheon deserves most of the credit
 
@CDJB yes, that was very close
 
I think we all got put off by the fact that the first people to get the hat all necessarily satisfied the 'in a row' part.
 
10:07 AM
@CDJB Yeah, I didn't get it in a row as well!
 
10:20 AM
@YaakovEllis Btw, do community wikis count for the hi5 hat?
 
10:35 AM
@U12-F̉͋̅̾̇orward Got Hi5 hat, so surely wikis count
26 hats now
 
4 hours ago, by Ankit Sharma
If I approve the edit and someone to improve, it will break my chain? Or if everyone approves and I improve it will break the chain?
no answer for this?
 
10:52 AM
We should keep Yaakow focused on staying tuned.
 
I wonder if there is a hidden puzzle you know
18 hours ago, by Slate
It's just reminding you not to fall out of tune.
And there's the rhyme in the comment in the html
 
@CDJB I fear that would be overthinking it. I already felt for that trick last year.
 
27 hats!!
Yay, rep hunter
Rep cap I mean
 
Does anyone have any more guesses on Cleanup?
 
Currently, Defender hat is following the same pattern as last year:
- first added with a trigger related to helping out (this time with bugs, last time with testing the hat dash game)
- later obtainable thru an hidden game.
So, I expect that as soon as Yaakow decides to update the page, we get the actual game/quiz
As for the poem....
@CDJB the poem is just a reference to a nursery rhyme
 
10:59 AM
Yeah I get the reference, I was just wondering if it was a hint of some kind as well.
What's the Winterbash/js/quest.js file - only seems to show up on the /unicorn page
 
@CDJB pointed out that already too. Also tried to run it manually :P
not much luck.
 
Fair enough, trying to make sense of minified js is certainly way outside of my abilities
 
I'll will play my ace card I guess. If this doesn't work nothing will.
@YaakovEllis 白い雪
それでも待つ
ユニコーンハット
> Shiroi yuki
soredemo matsu
yunikōnhatto
(white snow / still we wait / unicorn hat)
hopefully he will fall for the Haiku and update that page.
@CDJB btw, since you mentioned it.
The page also references "https://meta.stackexchange.com/q/358638/51"
I don't get that 51
"https://meta.stackexchange.com/q/358638/" is already sufficient
 
11:14 AM
@SPArcheon That's what you get for sharing a post - Yaakov's user id on meta is 51
 
@CDJB oh, so his evil plan is to get everyone to use his referral url and get a free hat out of it....
 
Exactly :D
Heh, he already got Announcer from it: meta.stackexchange.com/help/badges/74/announcer?userid=51
 
12:15 PM
I finally made it to the first page of the leaderboard. Only 14 hats, but I'm still missing many of the easy ones.
 
If it can be of any consolation, I have a perfect candidate for Tenacious... on a site where no one votes in the first place.
 
1 upvote away from Rep Hunter
9/10 open question answer with positive scores now
need 1 more!!!
Or should I beg for one here?
 
12:36 PM
No idea how even with every new hat I get @U12-F̉͋̅̾̇orward is still ahead of me
 
Haha
YESSS Should get Rep hunter now
Sorry Ankit :)
Waiting for the delivery
 
 
1 hour later…
2:11 PM
@U12-F̉͋̅̾̇orward plot twist: it was all part of staff plan to ban every user who mass-voted to get the gem-finder hat :P
 
Am I right in thinking that Catija is the only one who's got the Cleanup hat so far?
 
21 hours ago, by Catija
I can answer that it's possible to get as a user but it's much easier for a mod.
 
It's got to be something to do with deleting comments right?
 
in the past they had hats awarded for deleting comments that were more than 2 years old. I deleted some, got nothing so far
 
I deleted some of mine, I think 10, from October and nothing too
 
also, waiting for this edit on SO to get processed to see if I get something.
 
2:30 PM
Perhaps it's about deleting posts, not comments.
 
I guess it could be...
That user @SPArcheon linked doesn't have the rep to cast delete votes, but could have done it through recommend deletion votes... I'd expect a lot more people to have it in that case though
Also yeah, they don't have any recommend deletion reviews
 
Perhaps it's about deleting your own posts
 
I don't think so
I tried looking into Catija's profile on Cooking, comparing it with a wayback machine link
 
@Eran I have deleted one answer I posted during WB because people couldn't bother to actually read it so if it is that it must have other requirements.
 
There have definitely been some self-deleted posts on politics and no one on there has the hat
 
2:36 PM
Hey!
 
@SPArcheon your edit has been approved
 
I'd have thought a lot more mods would have Cleanup if it was just deleting comments.
 
@RafaelTavares Latom.
no, wait, that one was Raffles, not Rafael.
 
8 hours ago, by Wolgwang
user image
:/
 
@Wolgwang did you upvote enough questions? Were any of them closed? Were all of them posted over 4 days ago?
 
2:43 PM
@Eran I don't think there was even a 1% chance of them getting closed...
 
Your hat is in another castle
 
@Wolgwang I can't tell by these totals if you are eligible for those hats
 
@Eran Why?
@RafaelTavares 🧐
 
@Wolgwang because I'll have to check each question you upvoted separately, to count how many fit the time criteria and the percentage of questions still open after 4 days.
 
3:01 PM
what is this so many random hats, I did nothing from so many hours
And where U12 is getting more hats from, surely some satanic ritual @U12-F̉͋̅̾̇orward
 
Any tips for sattelite?
 
Just pushed bug fix affecting awarding of Harmony, Consensus, and Rapport. Updates to meta posts coming up
 
@YaakovEllis That's why I got my beard, probably. Ty Yaakov!
 
I just received Harmony on SO randomly :) wondered if that was what happened
 
Harmony was being awarded, but was missing some cases where it should have been awarded and was not (same for the other two, which all use the same logic)
 
3:08 PM
I think now it's okay to admit that this bug was on purpose so people would review more
 
I will admit to nothing
8
 
@YaakovEllis look here. I know, I am silly.
 
@SPArcheon silly for misspelling my name?
 
Also - maybe better to just refer to the team. I am not the only dev working on it, and other CMs were taking leading roles in the organization as well. Also PM, design, marketing work went into this.
 
3:11 PM
@YaakovEllis ..... rats. It was correct before, but that thing got thru too many edits, also thanks to a certain dog on Meta who took my request to add Catija as "remove Yaakov"
@YaakovEllis edit it as you see fit.
I had also proposed an edit that added the two background pictures in the extended description, some one rejected that.
 
@SPArcheon done
 
@YaakovEllis Fell free to add back the pictures in the extended description if you like. Or leave it as it is now.
 
3:39 PM
Just a wild guess: Cleanup could be similar to the Ernie hat from a few years ago.
From 2016:
> 8,243,721: Delete 6 comments from under posts (not your own), that were edited by their owners after you commented on them
 
@Panda if it is, then pre-Winter Bash comments must count right? Catija hasn't commented on either TV or Cooking since then.
(unless they've all been deleted, of course)
 
@CDJB Hmm that reminds me of another hat. Let me see if I can find it.
 
The 'much easier for mods to get' comment is maybe throwing me off a bit
 
@CDJB From WB2017, This Is Fine: delete 10 comments from 2017
 
I just feel like a lot more people would have it if that were the case
 
3:52 PM
That hat allowed for the deletion of comments posted pre-Winter Bash.
 
@Panda Did a helpful flag count as a delete?
 
just have @Panda ask Yaakov if the trigger is whatever simple trigger you can think of.
 
I wondered if it was something to do with tag synonyms? Seeing as that's trivial for a mod but pretty hard for a user. I don't see any new ones on Cooking though.
 
@RafaelTavares I think it’s still considered mod-deleted.
@SPArcheon LOL probably wise to try out before asking him
 
@Panda it is a know fact you can't say no to Panda.
 
3:53 PM
@RafaelTavares A helpful flag counts as the user deleting it if it's an auto-1-flag delete
 
@SPArcheon Of course!
 
@RafaelTavares Like if it contains a swear word or something
 
@CDJB That's nice to know, ty
 
@Panda and by your reaction I assume you got the joke well before I posted the followup :P
 
@SPArcheon Saw that ad before HAHA
 
3:55 PM
context, for those who don't get it
can't, this is not my room. Too few candy colored ponies
 
@SPArcheon OK, pony?
 
@Glorfindel probably can help, currently only RO here.
 
ok
but there is no ponies in earth.
 
Yet, unless you where trying to test some hat trigger... I wouldn't get worried for 4 removed messages.
 
I'm sure there're ponies on Earth
 
4:09 PM
@RafaelTavares where?
 
There's certainly no unicorn, it's been kidnapped
7
 
@CDJB if the unicorn is kidnapped, then there is still unicorn
 
@CDJB which is clearly an opportunity to remind to a certain developer that we are still staying tuned....
 
@SPArcheon Why your pfp is pony?
 
@Fmbalbuena oh, now that is a funny question. Usually an avatar is something you want other to watch. But in this case, I am more egoist. So it is something I find relaxing instead.
 
4:18 PM
@SPArcheon you can't move messages as a RO? I thought rene and Mithical do so in the Tavern ...
5 messages moved to ­Trash
 
@Glorfindel the intended complete message was "currently he is the only RO here" :P
you are the only RO.
 
oops, sorry
 
@Glorfindel Also, this "Cleanup seems rollback, i guess." message
 
Anyway, I wouldn't really be bothered about five empty messages in a room like this.
 
don't worry, my fault for being too lazy.
@Glorfindel yep, said the same somewhere above.
 
4:21 PM
1 message moved to ­Trash
 
unless it is an attempt to check if having your message moved gets you a recycle bin hat.
 
@SPArcheon it's fun how ambiguous something can become when you resort to SMS/WhatsApp speak
 
or the even worse one:
> James while John had had had had had had had had had had had a better effect on the teacher
 
Winter Bash seems bad, i like Winter Batch, because i don't like Linux, i like Windows lol.
 
4:38 PM
@Fmbalbuena It was about Linux from the start. Didn't you notice the penguins on the site page?
 
@SPArcheon no
i did not notice
 
 
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6:03 PM
@YaakovEllis Slow trickle Seems question with 20 votes and (?) 1k views
 
@Fmbalbuena Please look at the confirmed trigger in the Hat List.
 
Sorry wrong
please don't
 
6:28 PM
@YaakovEllis Can you explain why it took me upvotes on five days to get slow trickle? Was it a bug? chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/59937746#59937746
 
I just got Satelite on MSE and I have no idea why lol
My last action was a flag in a quesiton 17 minutes ago
 
@RafaelTavares Which flag?
 
No longer reproducible
 
And which post?
 
8
Q: Bug in hat dash (macOS, safari, spacebar)

Damien BannerotI'm on a macbookpro 13 inches and when trying to play on safari, as soon as a tap my spacebar, the page scroll down and I can't see anything from the game. This appear to be a bug, originally reported here

Maybe the trigger is related to flagging an old post? I don't know if I did that during WB
 
7:09 PM
@nobody I could, but it's a secret hat. The "known" definition of the hat is missing a detail. No bugs present that I know about.
 
@YaakovEllis so the confirmed one was wrong?
based on the name, I still think that it has something to do with rep gain becoming smaller with the time.
 
@SPArcheon it was correct, except for one detail which I had forgotten when I confirmed, but which is still there upon further inspection
 
7:35 PM
Cleanup is really bugging me… it must be something related to deleting comments… but if it is then I can’t understand why more mods wouldn’t have it
 
Possibly you have to delete comments from many posts?
And maybe moving comments to chat doesn't count?
 
8:14 PM
But equally why would Catija be deleting that many comments on Cooking and TV?
 
Hmmm… Just got Satellite View and Spotting Scope on Travel, not sure why.
 
9:10 PM
I mean... I do like hats.
 
 
2 hours later…
10:51 PM
@Slate Would you happen to know why this conversation didn't get me Thought Bubble?
 
@bobble You do have thought bubble already.
 
On Puzzling
I have it on my other two sites, just not Puzzling
 
But your chat user isn't parented to puzzling.
Its parented to literature, so that's where you got the hat
 
Oh, I thought it was related to where you did the chatting
 
11:19 PM
Just in case anyone missed it:
3
Q: Oh no! Can you find our unicorn?

Yaakov EllisOnce again, Sparkles the /unicorn seems to have gotten herself in a whole heap of trouble. This time she appears to have been kidnapped! oh where, oh where has my unicorn gone? oh where oh where can she be? Can you help to track her down? Do you have what it takes to join the ranks of the Defen...

 
@SPArcheon it's your time to bright
 
@RafaelTavares I too got that hat...
@RafaelTavares How many posts have you flagged?
 
11:46 PM
FYI some certain page has been updated.
 
@YaakovEllis Are you sure that you're using the right pronouns for the unicorn everywhere on the second page of the unicorn finding?
 
@Wolgwang Idk
Can I have two defender hats if I solve that puzzle? lol
 
@RafaelTavares Is it around 35?
 
Which day Winter Bash started?
 
@RafaelTavares 15
 
11:55 PM
29
30 if you count the self-removed one
 
@RafaelTavares Self removed?
 
Yes, I flagged and removed one
Unflagged
 

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