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12:04 AM
I’ve found the world’s best text editor. It’s called picomacsvimshop.
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8 hours later…
8:20 AM
@LaTeXereXeTaL lol
I have acquired a ten year old Acer Aspire V5 series laptop. Recommendations for which linux to put on it? :p
 
@barbarabeeton ooh <3
@Plergux Fedora XFCE? :)
 
@PauloCereda What would you cite as best quality? :p
 
@Plergux It's not Windows? :)
@Plergux XFCE tends to be lightweight, and I like Fedora. :)
@Plergux It can also be Manjaro, Arch, Gentoo... as long as it's not Ubuntu. :)
 
8:37 AM
@PauloCereda heh heh heh... I've not used Ubuntu in years. Has that maybe sort of turned into "Linux Windows"? :p
 
@Plergux I am definitely not a fan of Canonical, to be honest. :)
 
@PauloCereda agreed.
 
@Skillmon hi mr. rabbit! <3
 
@Plergux if you're in for a tiny adventure, Arch and a tiling window manager (I like Awesome WM)
 
@Plergux If you want @Skillmon's Arch suggestion but not that adventurous, try Manjaro with one of the ordinary desktops (KDE is very user-friendly these days).
 
8:50 AM
@Skillmon oooh! Tiling window manager sounds like my cup of tea! :D
@PauloCereda @Skillmon ok I'll stay away from Canonical :p
 
@Plergux ooh
 
@TeXnician Well, it's gonna be just for playing with, so adventurous sounds like exactly what I'm looking for :p
@TeXnician If I run into the big bad wolf in the forest I'll just run away and try something else. :p
 
@Plergux Manjaro is a great option, I endorse it. :)
 
@Plergux Oh, it's more or less just that Arch sometimes puts off people by its (really well documented but a little bit nerdy) installation. As I like Arch I don't want people to stop their adventure right after an aborted installation ;)
 
Of course, I am in the Fedora side of the conversation. :)
 
9:00 AM
@TeXnician Ah, I see. Well, I've never been afraid of messing with stuff. :p And you can sort of tell what you're in for if you look at the Arch home page. It's very much "no nonsense and get on with it" kind of "wiki" look that says "we have the information if you can be bothered looking for it" :p
 
@Plergux Yes, the Arch wiki is the best Linux-related documentation I know of. So if you're fine with looking things up, I recommend Arch as well :)
 
@TeXnician Well, this is going to be a hobby thing so I can take the time I want, and I like looking things up. It's just research :) I do that all day anyway :p
 
@DavidCarlisle ooh canards
 
@yo' Is the pdf with the stencils from the overleaf colouring in competition still available somewhere for download? (related to topanswers.xyz/tex?q=1570)
 
9:17 AM
@DavidCarlisle good morning <3
 
yo'
@samcarter_prepared_for_xmas Hi! I believe so. I think we also published the .tex files. Lemme check when I'm at a PC in the afternoon.
 
@yo' Ohhh, the sources would be even better - I'm kinda curious how you created the outlines :) Thanks a lot in advance!
 
9:34 AM
@PauloCereda breakfast
 
@DavidCarlisle oh no
 
yo'
9:52 AM
@samcarter_prepared_for_xmas I'll check. I'll definitely find a way how to share the sources at least to you ;)
 
10:08 AM
Luke Skywalker gets Grogu from the Mandalorian bloke in the season 2 finale!
 
10:52 AM
Early morning insomnia here. I'm re-reading @JosephWright's and Feuersänger's 2009 TUGboat article on key-values.
 
@LaTeXereXeTaL oh no
 
@PauloCereda I will make up for it by sleeping late!
 
@LaTeXereXeTaL oh
 
@Plergux agreeing to @TeXnician, Arch is really great if you want to learn much, but the start is a big barrier, one which can be circumvented with Manjaro. But I'd not pick KDE but stick to a tiling WM, just to have atleast a bit of a tiny adventure left :)
 
@Skillmon ooh i3
 
11:02 AM
@PauloCereda (I'll stick to Awesome for myself, but) yes, i3 is fine.
 
@Skillmon init 3 for the win. :)
 
@PauloCereda did you know that Windows used to have a tiling WM you could activate (took a look at the Wikipedia article of tiling).
 
@Skillmon oh my
 
@Skillmon :D
 
@Skillmon Emacs on Windows is still able to help you with that for most important applications ;)
 
 
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12:16 PM
Is there any L3 magic that would allow to iterate over a pgf style list so I don't have to load all the packages in the following example individually? Something similar to `\foreach \x/\y in \mylist{\usepackage{tikzlings-\y}}` just without the impractical group around the loop?

\documentclass{standalone}

\def\mylist{
  bear/bears,
  marmot/marmots,
  pig/pigs%
}

\usepackage{tikzlings-bears}
\usepackage{tikzlings-marmots}
\usepackage{tikzlings-pigs}

\begin{document}

\foreach \x/\y in \mylist {
 
\documentclass{standalone}

\def\mylist{
  bear/bears,
  marmot/marmots,
  pig/pigs%
}

\ExplSyntaxOn

\cs_new_protected:Npn \tikzlings_load_packages:N #1
  {
    \clist_map_inline:Nn #1
      {
        \exp_args:Nx \usepackage
          { tikzlings- \__tikzlings_after_slash:w ##1 / / \s_stop }
      }
  }
\cs_new:Npn \__tikzlings_after_slash:w #1 / #2 / #3 \s_stop {#2}
\cs_new_eq:NN \LoadTikzlings \tikzlings_load_packages:N

\ExplSyntaxOff

\LoadTikzlings\mylist

\begin{document}

\foreach \x/\y in \mylist {
@samcarter_prepared_for_xmas ^^^ Using \clist_map_inline:Nn to iterate over the comma list, and a custom \__tikzlings_after_slash:w to get what's after the / (no dedicated function for that, other than maybe \seq_set_split:Nnn, but that's too much work :)
 
@PhelypeOleinik Awesome! Thanks a lot!
 
@samcarter_prepared_for_xmas You're welcome :)
 
12:36 PM
@TeXnician well, I need an editor, I don't see how emacs could help me with that.
 
12:51 PM
@PauloCereda yes, there should be i3 for Windows.
 
1:13 PM
@PhelypeOleinik your avatar with the sombrero looks like a Mexican cactus. :) Or a Ludicolo (Pokémon). :D
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@PauloCereda Shame they don't allow oversized avatars, otherwise I would adopt it after the hat thing ends
 
@PhelypeOleinik same!
 
Maybe a user script to add sombreros to all avatars?
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@samcarter_prepared_for_xmas YES PLEASE
 
@PauloCereda OK, maybe I'll try once I'm done fighting with lists
 
1:19 PM
@samcarter_prepared_for_xmas <3
 
@samcarter_prepared_for_xmas Interrupting the hat talk a bit, do you know why this doesn't use the right font for math upright? (not sure if it's really a beamer thing or am I just stupid with fonts)
\documentclass{beamer}
\usepackage{unicode-math}
\setsansfont{FiraGO}
\setmathfont{Fira Math Regular}
\setmathfont{Fira Math Regular}[range=\mathsfup] % doesn't work?
\begin{document}
\begin{frame}
  hello $y = \cos(x\pi)$
\end{frame}
\end{document}
 
@PhelypeOleinik \usepackage[mathrm=sym]{unicode-math}
 
@PhelypeOleinik I don't have the font to test, but I would first check if the math font is actually used for the math -> try with some totally different text font (I would not be surprised if \cos actually uses another font)
 
@UlrikeFischer Okay, I'm just font-stupid :) Thanks!
 
@PhelypeOleinik you can also do \setmathfontface\mathrm{what ever font you want}.
 
1:30 PM
@samcarter_prepared_for_xmas It is, but it was using CM for the upright parts:
Looks a bit awkward :)
@UlrikeFischer Ah, cool! I didn't know that command. Thanks!
 
@PhelypeOleinik Don't tell David, but I looked in the documentation ;-) (I knew that there is command, but I tend to forget their names ...)
 
@PhelypeOleinik Maybe tex.stackexchange.com/a/478920/36296 could help for \cos etc
 
@UlrikeFischer Your secret is safe with me ;-) I'm also good at forgetting command names and argument order. One annoying example is \seq_set_split:Nnn: I always swap the last two (like plugging in an USB :)
 
@PhelypeOleinik So now I'm playing with the bit before the slash. I managed to adapt your code a tiny bit to iterate over the list, but I'm stuck how to use this in a pgf random list. Any ideas how to replace the {\bear}{\marmot}{\pig} bit?
\documentclass[varwidth]{standalone}

\usepackage{tikzlings}

\def\mylist{
  bear/bears,
  marmot/marmots,
  pig/pigs%
}

\ExplSyntaxOn

  \cs_new_protected:Npn \tikzlings_iterate:N #1
    {
      \clist_map_inline:Nn #1
        {
          \exp_args:Nx \__tikzlings_before_slash:w ##1 / / \s_stop
        }
    }
  \cs_new:Npn \__tikzlings_before_slash:w #1 / #2 / #3 \s_stop {#1}
  \cs_new_eq:NN \iterateTikzlings \tikzlings_iterate:N

\ExplSyntaxOff

\pgfmathdeclarerandomlist{bar}{{\bear}{\marmot}{\pig}}
 
@samcarter_prepared_for_xmas That seems to work too, but it doesn't play well with unicode-math (or I'm doing something wrong :). Thanks anyway
@samcarter_prepared_for_xmas Let me check
@samcarter_prepared_for_xmas You mean you want to replace \pgfmathdeclarerandomlist{bar}{{\bear}{\marmot}{\pig}} by something like \iterateTikzlings\mylist{\pgfmathdeclarerandomlist{bar}}?
@samcarter_prepared_for_xmas That would be \iterateTikzlings <list> { <inline code that receives a list of tikzling commands> }
 
1:46 PM
@PhelypeOleinik Not sure if this is possible, but I was thinking about something like \pgfmathdeclarerandomlist{bar}{\iterateTikzlings\mylist}.
However I don't know how to bring \csname .... \endcsname and the {} into the \tikzlings_iterate function
 
@samcarter_prepared_for_xmas Both are doable, though your version requires you to pre-expand \iterateTikzlings with \exp_args:Nnx or something like that
Give me a minute
\documentclass[varwidth]{standalone}

\usepackage{tikzlings}

\def\mylist{
  bear/bears,
  marmot/marmots,
  pig/pigs%
}

\ExplSyntaxOn

% To be able to x-expand \iterateTikzlings, it has to be expandable, so
% no 'protected'.  Also \clist_map_inline:Nn is not expandable, so we
% have to use \clist_map_function:NN instead.
\cs_new:Npn \tikzlings_iterate:N #1
  { \clist_map_function:NN #1 \__tikzlings_braced_items:n }
% \__tikzlings_braced_items:n will receive each clist item, then:
\cs_new:Npn \__tikzlings_braced_items:n #1
@samcarter_prepared_for_xmas I got a Bär :)
 
@PhelypeOleinik I got the marmot :) Thank you so much for the second time today!!!
 
@samcarter_prepared_for_xmas Glad to help :)
@samcarter_prepared_for_xmas If you have any questions about the code, do ask
 
@PhelypeOleinik Still reading :)
(the detailed comments are really helpful!)
 
2:02 PM
@samcarter_prepared_for_xmas The code from before should have \cs_new:Npn \__tikzlings_after_slash:w #1 / #2 / #3 \s_stop { \tl_trim_spaces:n {#2} }. I forgot spaces aren't trimmed when the comma-list is given in a macro (expl3 assumes you declared such list with \clist_set:Nn, so spaces should already be trimmed)
@samcarter_prepared_for_xmas Great :D
 
@PhelypeOleinik thx
 
2:18 PM
@PauloCereda ...and guitars? Well, sombreros and guitars could be nice...
 
@Rmano OOH
 
@Rmano It's a Mariachi group! (with a Russian guitar :)
 
@PhelypeOleinik YEEEEES
 
@PauloCereda ¿Where's that song?
 
@PhelypeOleinik fusion!
 
@Rmano Avengers Mariachis assemble!
 
We can also sing this one:
or the cucurucucu Paloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooomaaaaaaaaaaa
 
@PauloCereda YES!
 
@Rmano You gotta love the internet XD
And Russians
 
2:31 PM
@PhelypeOleinik everything is there. Reminds me of Borges and his Library (or the Sir Terry Pratchett Library space)
 
Bluuuuuue
Spanish eeeeeeeyes
Teardrops are falling from your Spanish eeeeeeyes
@Rmano ooh Anthony Flags
@PhelypeOleinik ^^ :D
 
@PauloCereda What song is that?
 
@PhelypeOleinik I meant... Antonio Banderas, from the video title posted by mr. squirrel :)
Terrible, I know
:D
 
Ooh
@PauloCereda Didn't finish watching yet
 
@PhelypeOleinik ooh
 
2:46 PM
@PhelypeOleinik Ah, I really didn't watch it fully (no real need, either ;-P)
 
yo'
@samcarter_prepared_for_xmas This should have the code I think: overleaf.com/read/rypdkmqdmfhv
 
@yo' Thanks a lot! The trick with bw/.style = {fill=white, draw=black} is really clever!
 
yo'
@samcarter_prepared_for_xmas yeah, but fails miserably in some cases. See e.g. the one with the curly hair made of circles.
or the chef...
@samcarter_prepared_for_xmas One of the troublemakes was May-The-Quack-III. Another one was Chef-Duck, on multiple levels actually (both the chef hat, and the roller)
 
 
1 hour later…
4:29 PM
@yo' Not surprised that the May-The-Quack is a trouble maker - else the movies would be boring :)
 
@yo' nitpicking, but there is an error in May-The-Quack-II. The neck cutout is showing below the cape.
 
@Plergux ooh
 
yo'
4:45 PM
@Skillmon Yeah, I know about that one, and I know it could have been quite easily avoided, but I missed it when we first published this... :(
 
@yo' I'm still printing it thrice for my daughters :)
 
yo'
@Skillmon :) And have you seen this? twitter.com/overleaf/status/1339553123912867841
 
yo'
5:18 PM
Btw, if you need anything from Overleaf in the next 2 weeks, don't wake me up please... :)
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@yo' Sleep well!
 
yo'
@samcarter_prepared_for_xmas thanks :)
 
5:40 PM
@yo' Don't worry, 6 million users will accumulate emails for you to read when you wake up.
 
@StefanKottwitz :)
 
 
2 hours later…
yo'
7:20 PM
@StefanKottwitz :-)
 
@yo' no, I haven't. I don't open twitter, except for when someone points me towards it.
 
7:41 PM
@yo' have a great relaxing time!
 
 
4 hours later…
yo'
11:32 PM
@Skillmon thanks :)
 

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