Coding Projects and Duga Heaven :)

Duga

12:00 AM

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[rubberduck-vba/Rubberduck] 17 commits. 1 opened issue. 4 issue comments. 38516 additions. 15644 deletions.

[Zomis/Games] 5 commits. 1 opened issue. 9 issue comments. 24 additions. 10 deletions.

[Minesweeper] Games Played: 144, Bombs Used: 104, Moves Performed: 17545, New Users: 7

Marc-Andre

1:00 AM

@SimonForsberg I'm a married developer !

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IvenBach

1:45 AM

@SimonForsberg don’t feel bad. My inclusion as a RD contributor decreases the quality of the average contributor by a staggering amount. Your average contributors are far better by comparison.

brug

2:34 AM

Is there a convention in Java of where to place public vs private methods within a class. What about setter/getter? Additionally, I would normally place a constructor immediately after the fields. Does that hold true if the constructor is private?

Duga

3:02 AM

[Zomis/Games] renovate[bot] edited pull request #113: Configure Renovate

[Zomis/Games/PR-113] build 7 Build success.

Duga

3:15 AM

@SimonForsberg Splunk Alert: MFE Long SQL Query - [max(runtime):635298, avg(runtime):635298, min(runtime):635298]

IvenBach

4:41 AM

@SimonForsberg imgur.com/gallery/YwQUerA

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@IvenBach imgur.com/gallery/lpJZgN0

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Simon Forsberg

8:04 AM

@Marc-Andre lol

Simon Forsberg

10:25 AM

@brug There is a convention for everything. IIRC: 1. Fields. 2. Constructors. 3. Other methods. 4. Getters/Setters.

So yes, no matter which visibility constructor has, it goes after the fields normally

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A: Are there any Java method ordering conventions?

Class (static) variables: First the public class variables, then the protected, and then the private. Instance variables: First public, then protected, and then private. Constructors Methods: These methods should be grouped by functionality rather than by scope or accessibility. For example, a p...

Simon Forsberg

11:41 AM

A friend of mine, and the founder of the board game association I'm in, had a TEDx speech in November that is finally up and online and with English subtitles: (main language is French, so @Marc-Andre can easily watch it)

Lifestyle Design - Building the Life You Dream of | David GAY-PERRET | TEDxUSMBAnnecy

►

Marc-Andre

12:03 PM

@brug For public and private method, I prefer to group them. Like public method and private methods it is using. Then Another oublic method and everything it use etc.

Monking everyone! Have a nice friday

@IvenBach I'm truly surprise at how much you can self deprecate yourself. Like this is the imposter syndrom but on steroid.

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Feeds

1:15 PM

CommitStrip: Talk to me

posted on July 03, 2020 by CommitStrip

brug

Monking!

Thanks for the advice @SimonForsberg and @Marc-Andre

Marc-Andre

Hey @brug

brug

Since I completed the assignment and turned it in I can ask the other question that I had in my head. Is it appropriate to have a private constructor and then a public static method that calls the said constructor but only after validating input?

This is essentially the Factory pattern, right?

Simon Forsberg

Yes. Perfectly valid. Static factory method, nothing wrong with that.

(Besides for the fact that it's Java and not Kotlin, naturally...)

brug

It seemed like a good way to validate user input safely.

Simon Forsberg

1:24 PM

It is.

Because in most cases, you don't want a constructor to throw an exception

brug

I didn't get to choose the language

Simon Forsberg

Which is why I'm bashing it :)

brug

Fair

I don't even hate Java. But I don't quite understand why it is SOOOO prolifically taught amongst schools at an almost exclusionary degree.

Simon Forsberg

It is the most commonly used language in the industry.

brug

Isn't it important to see a variety of languages, paradigms, and approaches early in the learning process so that you can develop towards a specification that messes well with you?

Simon Forsberg

1:29 PM

It's also the language which is supported on by far the most devices.

Your dishwasher is probably running Java, and the same goes for your laundry machine.

@brug Depends from person to person. Some beginners might be very confused if they learn multiple languages in a short period of time.

Marc-Andre

@brug Well you either prepare a student for work (so you make it learn what is most used) or you teach a lot more about cs and the wide availability of languages.

Simon Forsberg

Sadly, I think most education does horribly at preparing students for work.

brug

@SimonForsberg true. But if you are in college you should be pushing yourself to the edge of confusion.

@Marc-Andre I'll take the latter please.

Simon Forsberg

That's what free time is for!

brug

@SimonForsberg Free what now?!??

Simon Forsberg

1:31 PM

(Easy for me to say, who probably has the most free time of us all)

brug

I know about free labor, because that is what is expected of me after I graduate.

Simon Forsberg

Really?

brug

I know about the free market because that is an excuse for the continued exploitation of free labor across the global economy

Marc-Andre

Unless there is something wrong in your market near you, everything I did in ti was paid

brug

@SimonForsberg I guess not really. Unpaid internships aren't nearly as common in this industry as they are in most other post-grad industries.

Marc-Andre

1:34 PM

And quite well

brug

One of the few industries that actually pays interns

Sorry. I guess I just really wanted to go off on a rant.

Vogel612

@SimonForsberg huh? how so?

Marc-Andre

@brug Well that's ok. It is indeed a problem, but just not really in our industry. There is tons of thing wrong anyway. You'll have plenty of thing to rant about

Vogel612

I mean... I'm currently writing my thesis, but time is basically the only thing I have an excess of

Simon Forsberg

@Vogel612 Many others in here have kids. And I work just 80%

brug

1:42 PM

@Vogel612 What is your thesis on and what is your degree in?

Marc-Andre

@Vogel612 Iven is married with one kid, learning cs on the spare time between family and work. Brug same thing. Me married two kids.

He just pointing out that for a "lot" of chatty people here, he had more time

Vogel612

thesis is some basic implementation work for a tool that allows modelling applications through drag'n'drop

degree is computer science, not that that impacted the thesis much

Simon Forsberg

@Vogel612 Sounds like something for @skiwi?

Marc-Andre

But now that you and more people chips in the balance is kinda getting changed from what it was

Vogel612

@SimonForsberg I don't know what he's currently working on, actually...

the model is conforming to a standard that claims to allow automatic provisioning of the application then

Marc-Andre

1:44 PM

I think the business he is working for do somethin in the "ballpark" of that

brug

Something about a site to sell Pokemon cards?

Marc-Andre

@brug That's his personal project

Well one of them

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and probably only at the planning stage

brug

ohh you meant his work work

Simon Forsberg

I actually thought about @skiwi for both his work and his common hobby-project-ideas

bazola

hey all, happy friday

Marc-Andre

1:58 PM

@bazola Happy friday to you too

Simon Forsberg

@bazola Hey! Happy Friday!

I have one more week of work and then two weeks VACATION

bazola

@SimonForsberg that is awesome, i am jealous

are you going to go anywhere fun?

Simon Forsberg

@bazola Honestly I have no idea what I will do. Hopefully go swimming a bit, but it depends on both the weather and my friends.

Hopefully I won't spend the entire vacation in front of my computer...

bazola

@SimonForsberg i feel like i would want to get back to some side projects if i had a nice long vacation, but a complete break from work for a while is probably better for you

Simon Forsberg

Yeah I'm used to working on side projects when I'm not working so... a few days of break from all of that would probably be nice

But I think that as long as I am home, I won't be able to break from the hobby projects completely

Marc-Andre

2:13 PM

@SimonForsberg sometimes this can give more than a complete week of work

Simon Forsberg

@Marc-Andre Absolutely

But since I don't feel like I'm doing much at work these days, due to the complexity of my task, I prefer to feel constructive in some way

Marc-Andre

@SimonForsberg Yeah glad my new job has a lot of this

Marc-Andre

2:31 PM

Picture in Picture feature of Firefox is a must

Simon Forsberg

@Marc-Andre ???

Marc-Andre

^ See this @SimonForsberg

The video is from another tab

So I can move it around and it's always on top of everything

Simon Forsberg

2:49 PM

Neat

I would like to see more of those kinds of features, also for other apps

skiwi

3:06 PM

@Vogel612 @SimonForsberg That's basically my work application

Vogel612

@skiwi you're working on a TOSCA Modelling tool?

skiwi

@Vogel612 The name doesn't ring any bell

Vogel612

mumble mumble academic buzzwords mumble mumble cloud mumble serverless mumble

skiwi

3:21 PM

Hmm we basically have an application with embedded database and custom scripting which is stored in said database

Duga

3:47 PM

[Zomis/Games] Zomis edited comment on issue #18: Player options

> An option for future player-individual options (such as game deck in a Cardshifter-style game) would be to store "saved-actions" in database, such as: `player:<playerid>` for partition key and sort key of the form `save-action:<gametype>:<actionType>:<name-of-the-saved-action>`, to query them it's possible to use the filter "begins with `save-action:<gametype>:<actionType>:`"

Concrete example:

- PK: `player:cb580d1e-6c1c-4263-9618-4dbe1522f290`
- SK: `save-action:Cardshifter-Mythos:choo

IvenBach

@Marc-Andre a little difficult after life knocks you down and kept kicking while you were on the ground. TLDR Iven hasn’t had smooth sailing too often.

Marc-Andre

@IvenBach Yeah and that's ok honestly. I'm just genuinly surprise! I'm on the positive side of things so I'll support and cheer you up everytime you'll be down

Simon Forsberg

@Marc-Andre Can I have some of that positivity as well today?

Marc-Andre

@SimonForsberg You sure can! What's happening?

Missing motivation at your current work?

Simon Forsberg

@Marc-Andre I'm frustrated. Work is tough and dating-life ~~tough~~ non-existent.

skiwi

3:50 PM

@SimonForsberg Thanks Covid?

Marc-Andre

@SimonForsberg What is hard currently about your work? The tasks? The team? Management?

I only can sned good vibes for dating. Don't have much experience and don't have much to offer. Be yourself (but show you good side first). Try to be genuine and don't hesitate to propose stuff. The worst that can happen is a No. (demoralizing to get a lot of no but well. :S)

Duga

[Zomis/Games] Zomis pushed commit f9eb0fcd to master: Add new way of showing current player for two games #77

Simon Forsberg

@Marc-Andre The one task I'm working on at the moment.

It's huge and will probably be ongoing until October at least.

Marc-Andre

A Task taking month? waht the hell? Do you have subtasks?

Simon Forsberg

not full-time, but it won't be closed any time soon

I'm sort of the only person in the team who is familiar with it, and I've tried to create some subtasks but it ain't easy.

A lot of it is because of working from home I think. Hard to keep focus then.

Duga

3:57 PM

[Zomis/Games/master] build 82 Build success.

Simon Forsberg

I can write more about it another day. F**king weekend now! <3

Marc-Andre

Do you have the hability to go work elsewhere?

Have a nice Weekend @SimonForsberg

Simon Forsberg

@Marc-Andre My consulting company's office, but I don't think it would help at all to sit there instead

Vogel612

@Marc-Andre So I recently was freed from my long-time work work task.

after over 18 months of using my work time basically exclusively for that

Marc-Andre

Hello motivation ...

skiwi

3:59 PM

@SimonForsberg Do you guys Scrum or anything?

Vogel612

that's not that much time overall, since I'm basically only working 20 hours a month, but that's a bit more than two months full time work

Simon Forsberg

@skiwi Kanban

skiwi

Hmm since start of year I've pretty much worked on a big framework feature 'behind the scenes' and we were supposed to slowly ramp up usage of it

But then Covid happened and now this framework feature is the next big thing (tm) and is fully being used for all cloud stuff (like users/groups but also calendar/call records/etc.)

I have noticed in my 3+ years though that I rarely need to support/fix bugs in older features I've made.. I guess that's a good thing as I really do take care to properly finish things

IvenBach

5:21 PM

@SimonForsberg <dry-humor>don’t feel too bad. I stopped dating years ago.</dry-humor> Keep at it.

For anyone working today the weekend is almost here. Make good use of it to be productive.

Vogel612

5:42 PM

@IvenBach and don't forget that rest and relaxation is also something productive 😀

IvenBach

What’s this “rest” and “relaxation” you speak of?

Marc-Andre

@IvenBach Well I finish in 10 minutes (early from my normal time) to go to a cottage! I'll have a lot relaxation. Probably not much sleep though

Duga

6:20 PM

[Zomis/Games] Zomis pushed commit 45f6bae9 to master: Liar's Dice: Change currentPlayer highlight

[Zomis/Games] Zomis pushed commit 83d5de77 to master: Liar's Dice: Fix bug with no 6's

[Zomis/Games] Zomis pushed commit fbdc55bc to master: Liar's Dice: Add more logging

[Zomis/Games] Zomis pushed commit 0714217c to master: Liar's Dice: Make spotOn more interesting by default

[Zomis/Games/master] build 83 Build success.

Simon Forsberg

8:06 PM

Time for a vote! Which of these ways to highlight the active player do you prefer?
https://games.zomis.net/#/local/Hanabi - green text
https://games.zomis.net/#/local/Splendor - yellow border
https://games.zomis.net/#/local/LiarsDice - background color

Duga

8:21 PM

[Zomis/Games] Zomis pushed commit dd28f24c to master: Update Skull view, add current-player highlight

[Zomis/Games/master] build 84 Build success.

[Zomis/Games] Zomis pushed commit bafa1cae to master: Fix Skull view

[Zomis/Games] Zomis added label enhancement to issue #116: Statistics Page

[Zomis/Games] Zomis opened issue #116: Statistics Page

> Some examples of what to show:

Hanabi - Average score

Splendor - personal statistics, your own wins/losses...

Also show links to replays of the games

[Zomis/Games] Zomis added label vue-js-client to issue #116: Statistics Page

[Zomis/Games/master] build 85 Build success.

[Zomis/Games] Zomis pushed commit bb568d2b to master: Skull: Add colors to skulls and flowers

[Zomis/Games] Zomis pushed commit a8d2f569 to master: Skull: Change current player highlight

[Zomis/Games/master] build 86 Build success.

Simon Forsberg

8:48 PM

@SimonForsberg or games.zomis.net/#/local/Skull in which I use yet another way now

Duga

[Zomis/Games] Zomis created comment on issue #77: Swap way of showing active player to be highlighted border

> These options of highlighting current player exists right now:
https://games.zomis.net/#/local/Hanabi - green text
https://games.zomis.net/#/local/Splendor - yellow border
https://games.zomis.net/#/local/LiarsDice - background color
https://games.zomis.net/#/local/Skull - border shadow

I need lots of input on which of these ways are preferable, what is good or what is bad with each approach, and how can it be improved?

Marc-Andre

9:20 PM

I'm off for the weekend in a cottage! Have a nice weekend everyone

skiwi

@Marc-Andre Enjoy!

Simon Forsberg

@Marc-Andre o_O :O Enjoy!

Duga

[Zomis/Games] Zomis pushed commit 3a81ce7f to master: Randomise number of players in all DSL local games

[Zomis/Games] Zomis pushed commit 53ed5429 to master: Change Hanabi current player highlight to use box-shadow

[Zomis/Games/master] build 87 Build success.

[Zomis/Games] Zomis edited comment on issue #77: Swap way of showing active player to be highlighted border

> These options of highlighting current player exists right now:
https://games.zomis.net/#/local/Splendor - yellow border
https://games.zomis.net/#/local/LiarsDice - background color
https://games.zomis.net/#/local/Skull - border shadow

https://games.zomis.net/#/local/Hanabi - used to be green text, but is now the same as Skull.

I need lots of input on which of these ways are preferable, what is good or what is bad with each approach, and how can it be improved?

[Zomis/Games] Zomis pushed commit 71770b9d to master: Fix bug with Hanabi cards getting yellow border, because of Splendor

[Zomis/Games/master] build 88 Build success.

Duga

9:58 PM

[Zomis/Games] Zomis added label server-core to issue #112: Consider event sourcing

[Zomis/Games] Zomis added label refactor to issue #112: Consider event sourcing

Duga

10:12 PM

[Zomis/Games] Zomis pushed commit fad04a1f to master: Remove player order number in Hanabi, as it's sorted thanks to #50

[Zomis/Games] Zomis pushed commit fcef4bef to master: Add space after v-avatar in player profile

[Zomis/Games/master] build 89 Build success.

IvenBach

10:55 PM

@SimonForsberg Because #Muricuh loves to eat: youtube.com/watch?v=ASU6mzbPfJU.

Feeds

11:57 PM

My shooting will improve over the short term, but over the long term the universe will take more shots.

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