TeX, LaTeX and Friends

12:08 AM

@UlrikeFischer @JosephWright This is the offender: github.com/latex3/latex3/blob/…

1:26 AM

I put \input{main.bbl} in my main.tex file, where the bibliography commands used to be. I submitted to arXiv, and the PDF that arXiv generated has an ugly bibliography where lines do not wrap properly:

barbara beeton

@user1271772 -- Ick! It looks like the journal titles are set in unbreakable boxes. But without more information (or previous experience, which I don't have) it's not possible to say more.

user1271772

This is what the same references look like when I run pdflatex on my own laptop!

@barbarabeeton You seem to be very correct. Every other example of lines not wrapping properly in this bibliography, corresponded to cases in which the journal titles were long. Very strange that the journal titles become hyphenated when I run pdflatex myself, but do not when arXiv compiles it. Do you have any idea how to force the journal titles to get hyphenated?

barbara beeton

1:51 AM

@user1271772 -- I've never uploaded anything to arXiv, so I don't know if they have any idiosyncratic versions of document classes or packages. I assume that you inserted your .bbl file into the .tex file. (I believe that's part of arXiv's instructions.) A question on the main site with a small compilable example (two or three of the bib items should be enough, as long as you start with \documentclass and end with \end{document}) would get more exposure.

user1271772

Exactly, I actually used \input{main.bbl} into the .tex file, in the place where the bibliography commands used to be.

barbara beeton

@user1271772 -- you did keep the \bibstyle in the .tex file?

user1271772

I'm having trouble doing multi-line code in this chat box!

I commented out \bibliographystyle{apsrev4-1} and {\tiny \bibliography{bib.bib}} and added input{main.bbl}

I'm quite inexperienced so it might have been the wrong thing to do! I did according to this answer:

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A: How to obtain and use the .bbl file in my tex document for ArXiv submission?

Start with an new directory. Copy your file mwe.tex and mwe.bib inside it. File mwe.bib: @Book{Goossens, author = {Goossens, Michel and Mittelbach, Frank and Samarin, Alexander}, title = {The LaTeX Companion}, edition = {1}, publisher = {Addison-Wesley}, loca...

barbara beeton

@user1271772 -- I'm not sure, but I would have left the \bibliographystyle line in.

user1271772

Okay that answer on TeX Stack Exchange has it commented, but I will try now with it left in!

barbara beeton

2:05 AM

@user1271772 -- For information, my experience is with AMS documents, not physics. So I can make reasonable guesses at what the surface problem is, but not always how to fix it if non-AMS conventions are used.

user1271772

@barbarabeeton Unfortunately uncommenting \bibliographystyle didn't help :'( arXiv is still producing bad PDFs!

Okay. I seem to have used amsmath and amssymb, but also aps and revtex4-1

\documentclass[british,english,showpacs,preprintnumbers,amsmath,amssymb,aps,notitlepage,twocolumn]{revtex4-1}

This is one of the .bbl entries that doesn't wrap properly, I've never looked at a .bbl entry before, but does it not seem there's too many unnecessary brackets? The \bibfiled and \bibinfo are both new to me too.

user1271772

2:24 AM

@barbarabeeton I now have a MWE that is 5 lines long for the main.tex, however the .bbl file has 42 lines starting with \providecommand which makes it quite bulky. I worry that deleting these lines might cause my example to lose whatever it is that's causing arXiv not to like it. How would I proceed?

My MWE compiles perfectly in Overleaf, meaning that the journal title gets hyphenated correctly, but if I start removing lines from the .bbl, there is no guarantee that my example will contain whatever causes it not to work in arXiv.

barbara beeton

@user1271772 -- I'm not familiar with \bibinfo either. This really needs attention from someone who is familiar with the apsrev4-1 style. But I would guess that the version of the document class you have on your own system is not the same that is being used by arXiv, because the same .bbl file is being used. Very puzzling.

user1271772

@barbarabeeton I'm not very familiar with asking questions on TeX.SE, and what the etiquette would be about MWE. I heard that people can be quite harsh when people don't provide a proper MWE. I have a 5-line main.tex, but I'm unsure what to include in my .bbl?

Ulrike Fischer

5:55 AM

@user1271772 arxiv uses an rather old tex system. Yours is probably newer and the is the cause of the difference.

Joseph Wright

6:08 AM

@HenriMenke I'll sort it today

yo'

6:54 AM

@user1271772 switch the TeX Live version for the project in Overleaf (in the project's Menu) to 2017 -- that's a very similar setup to that of arXiv. Then you shall be able to debug the document and make it arXiv-ready.

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@DavidCarlisle \something would need to be fully expandable and leave no trace (or has to catch the other prefixes and reinsert them as well), the question remains on how to know on which macro \global acts \global\def\foo#1{#1}\global\named\FOO#[something]{#[something]}. All in all, the limitation of putting \named before \global seems more reasonable.

@PhelypeOleinik just as unreadable as it would without using namedef in the first place.

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