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12:03 AM
Well I was thinking people who see government security clearance as working for The Man
 
yeah.. eh.. I'm not one to judge, that was my job history before my current one
 
ohh. Sorry if I came of as disrespectful then
moves sheepishly towards the corner
 
nah you're fine :)
it was certainly something I thought more about around late 2015 :p
 
yeah 2016 def changed things
 
12:54 AM
@Tinkeringbell At that time, asleep
Hopefully awake now
 
 
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6:20 AM
@JourneymanGeek No worries. I was trying to figure out how to recover corrupt PDF files and wanted to know if you know a good tool?
 
A J
@Tinkeringbell try this one
 
Hey everyone :)
 
A J
Hello!
 
6:37 AM
Morning!
 
@Tinkeringbell I know most suck :D
Also (seriously) that wasn't covered in cyberforensics school for some reason :/
 
@JourneymanGeek sigh :P
@AJ I'll try once home... I'm afraid most of the PDFs are lost though
 
 
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8:21 AM
Morning!
 
A J
Afternoon!
 
A J
9:14 AM
takes out the register and marks @CaldeiraG present ;P
 
;P
 
9:34 AM
/me takes out the register and reads the latest slezy gossip in the tech world
 
A J
@JourneymanGeek you mean sleazy? :P
 
9:56 AM
Ugh
I've been volunteering in an organization for 6 or 7 years now and they've been misusing my work for a few years now (e.g. not crediting me on my artwork). And I just realized a hands-on guide I wrote for the person who took on my position in 2016 (and that they told me they had lost since) actually is accessible by anyone online
And I'm so pissed because this guide contains private data about our sponsors and companies we work with
So this guy who took on a job after me told me he'd lost the document whereas he actually posted it on his website, and now it's visible to anyone.
I'm saying this every year but now that's it, as soon as I'm done with their website I quit
Sorry about that. It just feels so unfair.
 
Big hug to you @avazula. That sucks <3
 
10:13 AM
@avazula :/ A website is never 'done' though. Take care of yourself, and keep that in mind when determining when to quit ;)
 
@Tinkeringbell tell me about it xD
Thank you both :)
 
10:28 AM
@avazula :/
 
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Q: Had a meeting where friend was mad at me. I find his communication style hard to understand. How to get clarity?

hectorpepperI am part of a small friends group that (used to) routinely meet. Something happened that I am unsure how I feel about. Bob asked me to attend a "meeting" with him and Joe. I was not told what the topic of the meeting was before attending. Though I attended, I am frustrated that I am still not cl...

 
10:45 AM
It keeps astonishing me how often people pull third parties into their conflicts :/
 
11:36 AM
@Tinkeringbell everyone wants backup :D
 
@JourneymanGeek Hmm... I was mostly thinking of 'I want X to solve my problems with Y' cases, not 'I'm going to solve the problem with Y, but would like for X to back me up' :/
They're different things.
 
nvm, I just read the question and that's clearly wrong
What I should have said was - well he clearly thinks he's right, and probably the other side does too, and wants to be told he's right without actually interacting with the other side. Probably
 
11:54 AM
@JourneymanGeek I dunno. I gave the Q an edit... now let's hope for the OP to add the last few bits :)
Then an answer can probably go into whether pushing Bob to explain Joe even if Bob doesn't want to falls under ethical communication techniques XD
(Though I hope not, answers without judgment are so much nicer).
 
@Tinkeringbell Your edit seems nice. I'm pretty sure there's a lot more to this story, the question seems a bit of a rant against Joe.
 
Bob can't read Joe's mind
and often what people say generally might not be what they really mean
 
Talking about that... @Raditz_35 Regarding your comment here, do you mind me editing out the last line? It's kinda harsh/direct and probably not the best way to encourage people to add details, calling their question absurd :/
 
@JourneymanGeek True, but Bob might have an idea why Joe acted the way he did.
 
11:57 AM
What Belle said :)
Though I still personally don't like the idea of involving third parties :P
 
This one already seems rather involved, tbh
 
Well as an intermediary? Can help SOMETIMES
if all parties are ok
as an interpreter? ehhhh
 
@Belle Yeah but if Bob's personality is to usually tell people to ask the other person directly... that says something about how happy I think Bob may be about all this, TBH
 
12:35 PM
@Tinkeringbell i was calling the described situation absurd, not the question. If you truly feel the need to protect people here from such harsh statements, go ahead, but I do not agree. I agree that one might read this into my comment, but what can be read into the question is much, much worse
 
Hmm. I'll see if I can do something to make that clearer then and keep your intention, because I do agree with the flags there, that "I have that problem with you, your description is absurd" isn't very kind.

How about 'Right now the described situation seems absurd, because it's condensed into a single line' ?
Thanks for dropping by, btw :)
 
That's fine with me
 
@Raditz_35 Thanks :) It's done.
 
1:12 PM
Does anyone else find the last bits of developing a feature to be the most boring bits too?
 
@Tinkeringbell Ugh
 
Is that a yes or a no? :P
 
yes
:p
 
Just going over stuff, and over, and over... polishing it but not figuring out new things... bleugh :P
 
I've had a fix this morning: add two words to a message after retrieving it from a DB and before sending it to the frontend. I had to edit 16 files :o
 
1:18 PM
O.o
Okay, then mine is more fun XD
I'm finding stuff that I'm not supposed to find though, and people keep telling me 'that's for later'... But, but... boy scout rule!
 
boy scout rule?
 
JAD
sounds more like a SE.SE question than SO, but sure
 
oh
 
Fun part is that the 0 score answer is oneboxed on Google:
 
JAD
1:31 PM
probably more matches with search terms
 
@avazula Do you think I can just contact a random beekeeper for some wax?
 
@Belle of course!
It's a useful byproduct so maybe they will want something little in exchange but I would donate it
 
I'll give it a go :)
 
@Belle If you don't mind paying anyways, you could always just ask if they sell :P
 
1:39 PM
the local beekeepers here have a thing where they sell beeswax candles at the christmas market
 
@Belle be prepared for it not be pure though. They might give you some raw, unfiltered wax. You'll then have to filter out the pollen/propolis and debris in a saucepan
 
Thanks. I just sent the head of the beekeeper organization on the island a text :)
 
:D
 
2:56 PM
I just got off the phone with a beekeeper. That guy is passionate. Wow. I love it.
 
:D
 
He doesn't have any wax for me though :( he already uses all of it himself
 
oh no :(
How much do you need?
 
About 200g or so
He gave me the phone number of his supplier though, said the supplier also deals in wax
 
 
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5:49 PM
I love how that sounds exactly like a drug deal.
 
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Q: How to explain I won't attend a thematic party

ChaoticMy female friend had a son recently, and it is a source of great joy for all of us (friends). When his son completed three months, we organized a surprise party for him, and the mom was very happy with it. Now his son is close to six months, and she decided to organize a thematic party. Problem...

 
 
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8:39 PM
@ExtrovertedMainMan Pls answer my comments so I can edit my answer and post it?
my capital 'd' is broken?
My shift key works though...
Weird!
:
It won't do the smiley!
uck
o
AAAAAAA
 
@Tinkeringbell "Duck"? :p
2
 
HELP?
 
(sorry)
 
DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
I'll send you all mine!
 
@scohe001 XD < It works! I used up one by copy-pasting it?
@EmC Yeah, duck!!
 
8:41 PM
Also there's definitely a racy joke here about Tink not being able to get the D she wants :p
 
D < CAPS LOCK WORKS TOO!
THIS IS DRIVING ME CRAZYYYYYY
@scohe001 I was worried someone might make that when I started typing!
I want my big d back!
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oh dear
*Dear :p
 
cue a coughing fit
 
I believe the keyboard's hardware interprets the combination of shift-d and sends a D, so it's probably a hardware issue...
Have you tried your other shift?
 
Yeah, both shift are broken... caps lock isn't though :/
 
8:44 PM
Maybe silly, but have you tried unplugging it and plugging it in again?
 
@Tinkeringbell :eyes:
 
@scohe001 Not yet, I wanted to have fun first? :P
@Mithical You're almost 18 too. I can say that now ;)
 
@Tinkeringbell Living in a world without big :D smiles is FUN for you?? :(
 
@scohe001 Not really, no :(
unplugging didn't work either :/
I'm going to blame windows updates. I installed those last night.
 
:( do you have another keyboard you could try?
 
8:52 PM
Nope :(
(I'm Googling, hopefully something useful turns up :) )
Super User has one, but it's about capital T's
 
better ask a new question, and explain that your key is a "D", not a "T", so it doesn't get closed as a dupe ;)
 
DDDD
It works if I turn the webcam off?
Waaah it works when I turn the webcam off.
If it's on, I get some weird dialogs pop up everytime I try a Shift + d
 
Oh that's super funky.
Maybe a global hotkey of some kind.
 
No clue.
 
lol wat
OKOKOKOKOK
.... how's your antivirus
 
8:59 PM
Up to date, and I just scanned when the d stopped working....
Oh, and dismissing the most recent 'OK' makes the camera stop working, then start capturing again...
 
2 mins ago, by El'endia Starman
Oh that's super funky.
^ said it best :p
 
X I don't get it...
Okay. Well, I guess that was it for ASL practice tonight then XD
 
9:38 PM
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Q: Is it appropriate to say “happy valentines day” to a colleague?

HmletIf you don’t think it’s appropriate, what could you say alternatively?

 
9:55 PM
@ExtrovertedMainMan :\
 
Same
 
@scohe001 nice commenting :)
 
Heh. Thanks. Not nice enough unfortunately :/
 
OP did a good edit afterwards. I upvoted the question, it is quite good
at least imo :<
 
@scohe001 wellll there's also a close vote button ;)
the edit was an improvement but I still have questions :/
 
10:05 PM
Dropped my own thoughts in a comment there too :)
 
I agree. As it stands, this seems pretty opinion based
 
@Tinkeringbell noo I was so close to posting mine :p
 
Sorry. If it helps... I'm still waiting for another question asker to answer my comments... I already have most of the answer written but want my assumptions checked :/
Of course it's also almost bed time, so I probably wake up tomorrow to someone else having answered it ;)
 
nah it's fine yours was friendlier :) I was trying to figure out how to ask about the "alternatively" part without being too blunt
 
@ArthurHavlicek It's not a totally bad question, and I like the quick edit it got. I do think it may help to know what OP is trying to achieve here though, why are they wanting to wish this specific colleague a happy Valentines? What's the message they're trying to send? :D
 
10:09 PM
Well probably just kind of rubbing you'd do to a client in a professional setting, I guess
 
It helps to have that in there though ;)
interpersonal.meta.stackexchange.com/a/1397/1599 < Good answer about questions needing a 'real' problem :)
 
also... there's always some risk... that's kinda inherent with these sorts of things... so that part in particular is just going to invite stories about "one time someone got really offended so NEVER EVER say it"
 
@EmC Yeah, that's the interpersonal skill of 'know your enemies' :P
 
hahaha
 
its funny because coming from TWP, where this question could also belong, we have waaay lower quality standards :D
with all respects to twp
it just have a different tradition of Q/A
 
10:11 PM
Yeah, we know XD
It's very different. I kinda like IPS better though, even though it's sometimes hard to send/scare so many people away with our strict guidelines :/
Even though that means no 200+ answer scores for hitting HNQ ;)
anyhow, did anyone tell you 'welcome to IPS chat' yet? :D
 
@Tinkeringbell ... says the #3 highest rep user xD
 
I think I came here a couple of time before, and no ! Never !
 
well, welcome :D
 
See, IPS lacks manners sometimes XD Welcome! :D
I'll go hang my head in shame for raising this bunch so wrong XD
 
Don't, thats fine
:)
 
10:15 PM
Okay. Then I'm going to bed ;) I hope the question gets another edit soon.
Night!
 
'night!
 

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