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12:02 AM
Oh, one more thing, to earn his Eagle...they raked up a whole forest filled with heroin needles...but I'm still not complaining. Nom-nom, nom-nom...
 
@Robusto @Robusto Yup, that's the stuff my nightmares are made of.
I do actually go outside. But, I'm not what you'd call an outdoorsman. LOL
 
I go outside every damn day.
I ride my bike for about three hours, then head home.
Today I only did two hours, including coffee, but it was a speed session. Did 28 miles (45 km) in less than 90 minutes (90 minutes).
 
How is your pinky finger?
 
@MattE.Эллен so I've read the article now, and it wasn't even her who said that but just some random bloke who jumped on the bandwagon.
 
@Cerberus Much, much improved. I still get tired after a while, but the worst is over.
 
12:16 AM
@Robusto that's a decent speed if you were on your own.
 
@Robusto I'm glad!
Playing piano?
 
@RegDwigнt Full disclosure: pace line.
 
Well then.
 
@Cerberus Yes. That's what I was referring to getting tired doing. If I had a better piano I wouldn't have near as much fatigue.
 
Do the double pace line next time for twice the speed.
I think that's how math works.
 
12:17 AM
The shoulder isn't that wide.
 
Ride sideways.
 
That always ends in tragedy.
 
Oh sorry not that wide.
I forgot to read your shit. Again.
 
@Robusto I thought so. Good.
 
A really good piano costs as much as a low-to-middling house these days.
Depending where you are.
 
12:19 AM
Move to Germany. A good piano is like 500 bucks. And nobody buys them.
I'm not even joking. I keep talking to my piano technician. In brief, it's a dying trade and everyone's going out of business who's not gone out of business by now.
 
I played a Steinway L a couple weeks ago and I didn't want to leave. I especially didn't want to come back to my less-than-wonderful digital.
@RegDwigнt That's a thought. But I hear you still have winter there.
 
A Steinway is still around 100k, but that's because you can just move a Steinway anywhere if need be.
 
I was actually able to do trills with the 4-5 fingers.
It was really cool.
Try playing Bach without that ability.
 
I was just about to say, I am pausing to think real hard if I ever had to do that at all outside of Bach.
 
hehe
Chopin?
 
12:22 AM
No.
 
Trying to think ...
 
Maybe some of his etudes where that's the whole point. His and Liszt's maybe.
I'm not very familiar with their etudes.
I can't stand etudes.
 
Chopin likes 2 against 3 more than is natural.
 
I dunno how he played his shit, but the way I play his shit it's very comfortable.
Like, I cross the 4 and the 5 all the time. Looks weird but feels wonderful.
 
Well, it's easy if your fingers are snakes.
Which I suspect yours are.
 
12:24 AM
No, it's easy if he knows how to write.
Obviously you don't do that on any notes.
 
Well, there's that ...
 
But say coming up from an A to a B flat. 5 to 4. Beautiful.
 
Depends on where you're going after.
But I can see it, yeah.
 
Mostly just that one note.
 
I mostly do 5-4 crosses when I'm sight-reading and blow the fingering.
 
12:26 AM
There's a really wonderful passage in the C minor nocturne.
Lemme check.
This. The RH in the last staff.
That line is such a fucking joy to play.
You should try some time. It really fills you to the brim with happiness, the way it lies under the fingers.
 
Perhaps I shall.
 
Also those giant LH chords in the first staff, first measure. Yes that's a decime. F, Bb, D, Ab.
 
Heh, perhaps I shan't.
 
It actually works.
Though of course even someone with a span of less than an octave can just break it up between the two hands.
But that's far less satisfying to play.
 
Tenths are not my friends.
We've had this chat before, I seem to remember.
 
12:34 AM
Yes, which is why I'm pointing out this particular one.
That's sort of my whole point right now. Some people could write a 3-1 crossing or an octave, and you'd curse them. Chopin can write a 5-4 crossing and a decime, and it's a joy.
Which is why I say, always write at the instrument. If you can't play the instrument, learn to play it or GTFO. I'm not test-driving your score for you.
 
I just tried it. No go. My old hands just don't stretch that far.
 
Well that's a bummer. Cuz it feels so good man.
 
When I see those I roll them. Can't do nuttin' else.
@RegDwigнt Yeah, fuck you.
 
That's not how I mean it at all.
I'm being genuine.
 
Fuck you anyway.
 
12:37 AM
Well we established that much like nine years ago when we first shook hands.
 
I'd love to be able to just slam the 10ths without worrying about clams. But. I. Just. Can't.
 
Anyway, fuck that chord alright, but do play the RH passage in the last line.
That's opus 48 no. 1, nocturne in C minor. Free to download off IMSLP.
@Robusto well as I said. I myself wrote a 10th only recently that I couldn't slam reliably. It was A-E-C# in the LH. And you had to slam it, it was triple forte.
 
Heh.
 
So the part of my palm between the thumb and the index finger would occasionally land on the B flat key. I had to work real hard to keep it up. Huhuh.
 
Hate when that happens.
 
12:42 AM
I swear it's never happened before.
 
I do love C-minor, though. All the chords seem to lie well for me.
 
I used to love Eb major. But then I moved to Ab major. So that's C minor to F.
I'm finding Ab major even more comfortable than Eb.
 
I can see that.
 
I couldn't. For like 30 years.
But I've been enlightened and now I know.
 
Well, your Eb is just the dominant of Ab, so it's been wanting to go there for 30 years.
 
12:45 AM
inorite
It's like I was playing John Cage's As Slow As Possible.
 
He never finished that, I understand.
Nobody ever has.
 
> "Running short of money, office lady Saki Watase is introduced to a part-time job where she's tasked with reviewing XL-size condoms. While receiving an escort home after a night of drinking, Saki's "demon" boss Keisuke Sudou notices that she's carrying a large quantity of condom. Once Saki explains her circumstances, Keisuke reveals that he is XL-size. A romance between the two thus begins."
Why is this getting flagged as offensive/spam?
I can't see how it's either.
 
Dunno.
 
Sounds like the plot synopsis of every other anime.
 
Def not offensive
 
12:48 AM
@Robusto actually I believe there were people who rushed it and played in like 3 years or something.
He didn't actually specify the MM.
 
@RegDwigнt What would be a great twist would be if the woman bought XL condoms and put them in a size M box just to intimidate him.
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As slow as possible. That could be really really fast if you have to catch the bus home.
 
True.
 
Can you not upload pics on the mobile chat platform?!
 
Robusto can. But then again he's Robusto.
 
12:51 AM
I see. So only when you 1.7B rep.
 
I don't know anyone else who reads this shit here on the phone.
 
I'm sitting g
outside by the fire
 
Like, it's tedious as is. And you want to ruin your eyes trying to read it on a stamp?
 
@RegDwigнt I don't read it anywhere, much less on the phone.
 
@Robusto well you read it on the phone once. Which is how I know.
 
12:52 AM
Lies.
 
@RegDwigнt I went to see the real Reg Dwight on his fairwell tour back in March! It was incredible. 3h with Grandma Elton where he explained all of his songs, why they were his favorites, etc.
 
Dec 5 '12 at 13:36, by Robusto
Stupid phone can't handle rapid-fire chat.
I do not forget things.
 
@RegDwigнt I'm not responsible for things that happened more than five years ago. Try again.
 
@DavidM yeah I was thinking about going myself when he was touring these parts.
But I dunno.
 
@RegDwigнt to be fair he meant he was calling someone and dictating it to them.
 
12:54 AM
I guess I don't want to meet the fans. Fans ruin everything.
 
You just don't want to encounter takes on his music that differ from your own personal experience. Which is understandable.
 
@Robusto that's a good line. I'll try to remember it the next time I'm talking to my car insurance or the child protection services.
 
@RegDwigнt it was one of the most well behaved concerts I've been to. You didn't have to tell people to sit down or shut the fuck up. Elton did his victory lap that would have been distasteful from any other artist. But he's earned it.
 
@Robusto yeah that very much includes his own takes on his own music.
 
@RegDwigнt Especially those.
 
12:56 AM
I have like what, fourteen different recordings of Your Song? The original is still the best.
@DavidM that's not how I mean it.
 
I can't stand to hear poets read their own works. Not even Stevens. They can't match the voice I hear in my head.
L'enfer, c'est les autres, as Sartre put it.
 
I mean it more like, you play Breath of the Wild and it's the best thing ever and you love it to bits. But then you go online and listen to the music from the game on YouTube and you make the mistake of reading the comments by all the Nintendo fan boys.
 
Makes you want to brick your Switch and never buy anything from Nintendo again.
@Robusto coincidentally, that is why I do not sing in English.
 
Das ist merkwürdig.
 
12:59 AM
Well no it is not. You yourself only just explained why.
 
But not even English-language songs?
 
I heard that line that I just typed in my head. It was impeccable English. Try to make me read it aloud at your own peril.
@Robusto well, why would I sing non-English-language songs in English?
 
@RegDwigнt that's why I go to so few concerts. Who wants to pay $250 for bad seats.
 
@RegDwigнt I don't poke animals in the zoo for the same reason.
 
But, this was worth every penny.
@Robusto Hey now, no one needs to be all judgy here ....
 
1:01 AM
@DavidM yeah that's another thing. I've spent so much money on Elton John over the years, they better pay me to come and see him.
 
Just wait. It could happen.
I love the sky here.
 
That's a cumulus.
 
@RegDwigнt what's your native language, Russian?
 
I don't even know anymore at this point.-
I can switch betwee three languages at will. I do not have a default.
 
What do you dream in?
 
1:04 AM
And my accent in Russian is probably way worse by now than my accent in English.
 
@RegDwigнt Which is not to say you have no faults.
 
@DavidM all three.
 
Fair enough
 
It's a good question. That's how you test it.
 
I have dreamed in German and Japanese. Also in English.
 
1:05 AM
@Robusto I default to faults.
 
It's a major test of fluency at the least.
 
When in doubt, why not just suck?
 
I actually read Japanese in one dream, which gives the lie to people who say you can't read while dreaming.
 
Nah, it's a bit different.
 
You absolutely can. But, you cannot read complex things.
 
1:05 AM
You can read while dreaming. But you can test if you're dreaming or awake by trying to read it again.
If you're dreaming, the words will change to something completely different.
 
You can usually only read things that are simple that you can recognize pictorially.
 
Tom Scott made a video on that a while ago.
 
Yes. That is true. They usually do change when you look back.
My most lucid dreams are always pee dreams. But that's because they generally wake me up.
 
I did have a dream where I was playing with the orchestra and all of my music was blank. Unnerving.
 
A former colleague of mine made it a point to learn the phrase "I don't speak [language X]" in every language.
 
1:09 AM
@RegDwigнt "Either you're dreaming or you're running Windows." hahaha
@RegDwigнt Grunting works too, and it's easier.
 
I still have the going to class for an exam I never studied for dream, 18 years after graduation from medical school, and 22 after college.
 
Everyone, I have a proposement. I think we should allow the usement of the suffix "-ment" to form nouns from any verb.
 
That's one fuckment of an idea.
 
Why stop there?!? Let's just verb nouns. I'm going to Bourbon while I fire pit.
 
You can verb nouns already, silly.
 
1:11 AM
Verbment of nouns is a good idea, too.
 
This is the English room.
Try nouning verbs, that's still not 100% implemented.
 
I'm just saying that I think that the stickment of "-ment" onto a verb is a great method for formment of nouns.
See, here I am suggesting the perfect implementment.
 
I did post a whole question on the usage of the word fuck a while back. That's certainly nouning a verb.
 
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A: Which nouns can be used as verbs?

RegDwigнtTheoretically, any, absolutely any noun — and indeed any, absolutely any word — in English can be used as a verb. Nothing prevents you from exampling, betweening, egadsing or greating. Theoretically. In practice, there are of course a variety of reasons why not everything gets verbified. For st...

This is old news, folks.
Let's follow up with this -mental idea instead.
 
Well, I'm going to sandwich in celebration.
 
1:14 AM
@RegDwigнt Sure it is. I feel a little give in what you say.
 
Why should we have to remember all these different suffixes -al, -age, -ing, -ation, and so forth? Learning all those is a wastement of time.
 
@TannerSwett we just need to alert the high council on English Language and Usage and have them codify it all.
 
@Robusto one example does not a summer make.
 
Yes, that's a good idea.
 
Blocking is far less lenient with nouns than verbs.
Anyway. I must be off for now. Got violin tomorrow. And must still finish this score here for clarinet with guitar before I go to bed.
 
1:16 AM
o/
 
yesterday, by RegDwigнt
Writing sheet music for the guitar is such a pain in the arse, it's only surpassed by the pain in the arse that is reading sheet music for the guitar.
 
Try some.
 
Yeah, you bite me, too.
 
They're dreamy. I promise.
 
Yu tell me.
 
1:18 AM
Seriously?
 
That's not a word. That's a two words.
 
A character deficiency is something associated with fonts.
 
But hey, this is not Maths.SE.
 
@RegDwigнt ciao
 
Kakao.
Über und aus.
 
1:19 AM
laters.
 
Is there a word for someone who asks for advice but doesn't really want it?
 
Spouse?
 
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Q: Person Takes Certain Advice

AndyWhat do you call a person who only takes advice which agrees with what they initially want? For instance, John Doe needs to lose some weight to get healthy, but loves sweets so you advise John on eating healthy, but John ignores your advice and agrees with several friends who tell him to go on t...

Not sure I agree with this one.
@Robusto Hahahahahaha!
Why are divorces so expensive?
Because they're worth every fucking penny.
 
Tru dat.
 
At least mine was.
I posted it earlier, but got into it with someone earlier about this sort of thing.
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Q: Clean Words for the Money?

Frode BjørdalThere is a discussion concerning how to translate the Norwegian expression ''Rene ord for Pengene" to English. The expression has the meaning that one has been quite forthright. Is it reasonable in this case to coin the neologism ''Clean Words for the Money'' by means of a literal translation.

 
1:28 AM
@DavidM If you must congratulate me it needs to be on account of my achievements. I hope you realize the stark silliness of what you have been doing here and rectify your ways. — Frode Bjørdal 3 hours ago
Hahaha
I too think you should "rectify" your ways. Maybe mend them first, though.
 
I wrote a nasty retort that I deleted.
 
Well, there's no winning that argument. The only way to win is not to play.
 
@FrodeBjørdal Oh, yes, thanks to your timely scolding, my whole life will now be rescued. I can only imagine the trajectory it might have taken had you not posted here. I will report to my local center for reeducation.
I deleted it.
 
A wise policy.
 
@Robusto I'm a doctor. Rectify can take on a whole new meaning ....
 
1:32 AM
A proctologist?
 
Anesthesiology
 
Hmm, high malpractice insurance rates, no?
 
But, back when I was an intern we had to do rectal exams on all the trauma patients.
 
Sure, add trauma to trauma.
 
@Robusto not as bad as you'd expect. Lots of safety advances in the past 40 years
Our society set the standard for all of medicine
 
1:34 AM
I had an anesthesiologist ask me what kind of anesthesia I wanted. I said, "What's good today?"
 
Now everyone follows our model. Practice standards, etc.
My favorite is "Make sure you take really good care of him!!!" To which I reply, "Thank God you said something, I was really going to phone it in today!!!!!!!"
 
I had eye surgery once and the doc asked if I wanted general anesthesia or local. I asked what the local was like. He said, well, we freeze the nerve. Oh? How do you freeze the nerve? Well, we administer an anesthetic. How do you administer the anesthetic? WE TAKE A BIG HONKIN' NEEDLE AND STICK IT IN YOUR EYE! Oh, okay, I said, give me the general.
 
Hahahahahaha
It's just a little prick, and he's holding a needle. Badum sha
 
Yeah. But general is weird as well.
 
Honkin' is a medical term.
 
1:39 AM
So it would seem.
 
I've had general twice. Sedation a bunch of times. Local without sedation a bunch, too.
I prefer local. But I'm harder than a coffin nail ....
 
Best was my first knee surgery, I had an epidural. No hangover, no nothing.
 
Yeah. That's a good way to go. I had an epidural with general anesthesia for post op pain management.
I'm friends with all the surgeons who operate on me. So, it's kind of fun to be awake. 😂
 
1:53 AM
I was awake for surgery to reattach a nerve in my little finger. The tourniquet they put on the arm was very uncomfortable and they kept giving me shots of something that made the lights dazzle and spin.
 
Ketamine most likely.
 
My arm was pumped full of lidocaine, IIRC.
 
 
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6:20 AM
@RegDwigнt me
 
7:03 AM
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A: 'Cheddar goes "good" with burgers?' Can "go" be seen as a verb of the senses?

Lambiesense verbs or sensory verbs are generally intransitive: They are: look, seem, taste, feel, smell, and sound. They all can be followed by adjectives. You look good. He sounds terrible. That tastes scrumptious. [all adjectives] the verb go is an action or active verb. Therefore, it needs an ...

Things they is a-blowin' up.
 
 
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9:53 AM
> May 5, 2015: the patient’s wife informed the Principal Investigator that the patient died.
Is it okay, or should it be had died?
@RegDwigнt Lol
 
 
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11:56 AM
> Darling Omaet has added discussion "Transposer Instruments" in "MuseScore Composers"
I wrote this arrangement for saxophone quartet, but when I'm going to do the transposition I don't adjust the baritone inside the pentagram and if it does, the soprano is adjusted. If you could help me, thanks!
What are you on about, Darling.
Anyone any ideas?
I feel like I don't understand English anymore.
I am twelve and who is pentagram.
 
@RegDwigнt is there a word pentagram could be an autocorrect of?
 
I don't know. Excavator? Solitude? Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky?
None seem to fit very well.
 
@CowperKettle I'd certainly prefer the past perfect.
 
At any rate, why would you not fix an autocorrect mistake before posting something. Especially if you're asking for help.
> Well, I don't want to traumatise you, but sometimes you are just wrong. You can hide yourself behind a user account, moderation powers or sheer bigotism, but eventually you reap what you sow. This community belongs to all its members, and a few entitled users mixed up contributions with ownership, apparently. Now we are seeing some real improvements. If reality is rude or abusive, then maybe the real world is not for you.
Oh, drama in neighbor chat.
This still going on?
Can't everyone just resign for good?
 
12:20 PM
I resigned from resigning, so I can never quit
 
Quit that nonsense.
So I looked at their score and there's no pentagram that I can see.
It says "Bee Gees". I'm not sure that that's what I'm hearing.
I think before fixing the pentagram we would need to fix all the wrong notes.
Priorities.
Measure 12 is downright comical. Car horns galore.
 
staff
I put it into google translate
> The program does not adjust the transposition of the baritone within the staff
 
What effing language calls a staff a pentagram.
And thank you.
 
:D
Spanish, alegedly
 
I spoke Spanish just last night. There were no pentagrams.
 
12:33 PM
that's because you weren't summoning demons
Bee Gees translated into Spanish must be a demon summoning spell
 
@MattE.Эллен How do you mean. What's the point of speaking Spanish if not to summon demons?
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@MattE.Эллен Bee Gees is a demon summoning spell in English as is.
 
@RegDwigнt I don't have a good answer. I've never spoken it well enough to summon a demon
 
You just have to say "se habla castellano". Or any such shit.
Mar 1 '12 at 23:06, by RegDwight Ѭſ道
En Barcelona hay una fábrica de coches, la Sociedad Española de Automóviles de Turismo.
 
demons appear
 
Well look at your face.
 
12:36 PM
:D
look at your legs!
(I know, that's not you, but I can't find a picture of someone lifting up your skirt)
 
Whatcha doing with my aunt. Put her back at once.
Anyway I've posted my answer now. Complete with a demo score. Now let's see if going to all that trouble will actually earn me a like. Or if they just say thanks. Or say nothing at all.
My money is on getting nothing. My change is on reading a misspelled "ty". And I'll put one rouble on actually getting a like.
MuseScore is a weird place. Allegedly it's a site for sheet music, yet they sort their Top Users page not by the number of scores or (Heavens forbid!) their actual quality, but by the number of likes you get on comments that you post in the forums.
And naturally nobody at all ever upvotes an actually helpful comment that's actually helpful.
What gets you the likes is bikeshedding.
You have to post inane shit, not even, like, what's your favorite Pokémon, but really just what you had for dinner or how you returned from school just now.
Everyone totally jumps on that garbage adding garbage of their own. And everyone upvotes each other's garbage.
And that's how you get onto the first page of the Top Users of the most popular site for sheet music on all of the Internet.
This world is broken. Give me a new one.
 
12:59 PM
of course. sheet music is only the lure. the site is really all about tricking music writers into socialising.
 
But it's not socializing.
I do some socializing but that you do in private via their message system.
On the main site it's literally garbage after garbage after dog shit.
 
sound slike my walk home
 
I joined that one group, "Randomly Screwing Around". The programme's in the name.
That alone skyrocketed me from page 1000 of Top Users to page 16 in a matter of weeks.
 
people who screw around are popular
good to know
 
Posting 100+ high-quality scores didn't move me a bit. Investing roughly 80 hours of my life into actually helping some 20 people from all around the world didn't move me a bit.
@MattE.Эллен you live in Paris? I didn't know.
 
1:02 PM
:D
 
The lesson learned is, every system you create with the best of intentions will be abused in ways you never predicted.
Like, it makes sense that you'd want to propel users who post a lot of helpful comments. And it makes sense that you'd think that helpful comments would get upvoted more than unhelpful ones.
Except no you're wrong. You should watch how the system actually works, and adapt to how people actually behave.
Like, look at it yourself. See those people with 5, 3, even 0 scores to their name?
 
they'd need several buttons, e.g. "this comment is useful", "I like this comment", "I like this person", "I'm bored", "I like clicking buttons"
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There's highly skilled people on there with like 300 full-orchestra pieces. Good luck finding them. They are all buried under all the dandruff and all the lint.
And the real kicker is, there's no way to navigate from a user to all the comments they posted. Or any of their comments at all.
 
yeah, I just noticed
 
So even if you thought, okay, this guy has zero scores, but apparently he's helped a billion people a lot, you wouldn't be allowed to go and see what wisdom they have shared.
It's broken in more ways than there are ways.
 
1:07 PM
zachtmusic has 8 parts and 45 pages. I can't find out what that means, because those stats don't link to anything
 
You can go to their profile, from there you can see the scores. But not their helpful comments.
Anyway. Now I spend most of my days talking about Pokémon and coming home from school.
 
sounds like a fully min-maxed plan
 
I kind of want them to have at least one person with quality scores on page 1 of Top Users.
Not that I'd really enjoy being in that kind of company, mind.
If you see like 30 people who are allegedly the top of the crop, and you go and check some of them at random and they're shit, that doesn't just taint them in your eyes. It taints by extension everyone else on the list that you haven't checked.
Kind of reminds me of that Groucho Marx quote. You'd not want to be part of a club that accepts you.
They say in Russian, a teaspoon of tar spoils a barrel of honey.
I am seeking to become a teaspoon of honey in a sea of tar.
Stay tuned.
Meanwhile I must get packing for the violin lesson.
 
stays tuned
CU
 
 
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Q: Problem with grammar

LiaI have a problem with my homework. We are learned past tense and future tense. Which can relevant to describe the future tense? We may forgive, but we shall never forget. We'll leave it for you want. Jenny's arriving at 8 o'clock tonight. Your plane leaves at noon tomorrow. They were about to ...

Sigh.
For the record, I am against blocking "problem" and "grammar" and other such words in the title.
Instead, all questions titled "problem with grammar" should be accepted but only made visible to the OP themselves.
 
2:52 PM
@RegDwigнt The man was a genius. I always loved his response when he was told he couldn't swim at a beach club because he was Jewish: "My son's only half-Jewish, can he go in up to his waist?"
 
3:28 PM
But, it's not showing in my profile.
 
 
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4:41 PM
@RegDwigнt That just ruins the tar.
@MattE.Эллен Soy un hombre de mujer, no hay tiempo para hablar
Podemos tratar
de entender
el efecto del New York Times sobre el hombre
 
@DavidM it takes a while for that one
All good things come to those who wait
The Gold Badge distributors are reviewing your case. Please allow 6-8 weeks for this to show in your profile.
 
5:06 PM
Finally showed up.
 
@Mitch you've only gone and done it
 
Anyone know a word or phrase for "when you ask for help with something and someone tells you to just use something else?"
 
@jcolebrand advice.
 
lol
 
Great wordplay column today if you're into the NYT crossword
 
5:17 PM
someone suggested a YX problem and that may fit the bill
 
I was not allowed to delete the question. Let me just state, then, that some contributors here are utterly ridiculous and that it is totally unacceptable to state that the expression "Clean words for the money" is meaningless in English. Period! — Frode Bjørdal 19 hours ago
This guy's name should mean the opposite of that.
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Q: Clean Words for the Money?

Frode BjørdalThere is a discussion concerning how to translate the Norwegian expression ''Rene ord for Pengene" to English. The expression has the meaning that one has been quite forthright. Is it reasonable in this case to coin the neologism ''Clean Words for the Money'' by means of a literal translation.

This is the question.
 
@RegDwigнt That's how your Stackexchange worth is calculated - stars in the chat
An interesting example is with my compatriot he philosopher Arne Næss who wrote a didactic book in Critical Thinking. He probably read English literature where the term "straw man" was used for a fallacy. He translated directly and used "stråmann". The problem is that there are no strawmen in Norwegian, but there are scarebirds - or scarecrows. So he should have translated "straw man" with "fugleskremsel", and the students would have gotten a feeling for the fallacy. — Frode Bjørdal 21 mins ago
But... that proves my point!
'Clean words for the money' is ambiguous - is someone offering a word-cleaning service? Does someone sell 'clean words'? Is it an instruction, telling someone not to 'clean words for free'? These are all valid literal interpretations, which are a far cry from 'to be forthright' — marcellothearcane 12 hours ago
 
5:40 PM
@marcellothearcane He deleted all of his nastier comments. But they were pretty funny
If you must congratulate me it needs to be on account of my achievements. I hope you realize the stark silliness of what you have been doing here and rectify your ways. — Frode Bjørdal
That was my favorite.
 
@DavidM 'stark' and 'silliness' really don't work together
Maybe the Norwegian word for silliness is much more offensive
 
@marcellothearcane It's a miracle! He understands the issue after all.
@DavidM Or a moderator removed them.
 
5:55 PM
@Cerberus I had considered that, but I had not flagged them. I wonder if anyone else had.
 

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