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2:17 AM
@jdgregson That won't hide it very well.
How much effort are you willing to go through to hide its presence?
Because there are a lot of anti-forensic techniques with varying complexities.
@jdgregson Not only would it look like random data, but it would be in multiples of 512 bytes, which is another giveaway for TrueCrypt/VeraCrypt volumes.
Anyway one common technique is to just use an encrypted external drive. It's very easy to pass it off as simply having been wiped, since it looks indistinguishable from a wiped drive. That's a lot easier to pass off than a strange blob of data in a file.
 
2:54 AM
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A: How important is it to delete disk partitions when wiping devices?

Robert RappleanAs far as data security is concerned, the partitions are almost meaningless. If you're trying to prevent forensics from reading your data, then it won't matter. If you've run a proper multi-pass shredder over the data, then the partitions will only matter if you named them something telling. Add...

For anyone who wants to downvote a crappy answer repeating the old myth that you need to wipe a hard drive multiple times to be sure of data erasure.
 
Anonymous
3:07 AM
@forest lol. I am so mad right now.
 
Anonymous
I went to bed at 22:00 to get an early night, slept for an hour and a half, woke up and I've been awake since 23:30~ and I can't sleep now.
 
Anonymous
It's now 3:00AM.
 
ouch
 
Anonymous
Yeah, I'm so annoyed.
 
Anonymous
I'm not even doing anything I am just sat here.
 
Anonymous
3:09 AM
But I tried to sleep for over an hour and got fed up of tossing & turning.
 
I know that feel.
 
Anonymous
It's not even like I can do soemthing productive.
 
Anonymous
Not in the fuckin' mood.
 
Anonymous
So I just gotta' sit here, pissed off and tired.
 
Try Ambien.
 
Anonymous
3:13 AM
I don't think I got any of that.
 
7:03 AM
Anyone got an obscure video/audio format they want me to fuzz?
Someone asked a question about that and now I'm genuinely curious.
If no one suggests anything I'll just fuzz a random ITU-T ADPCM speech codec. :P
But sadly I don't know enough about video/audio encoding to know what's interesting.
 
 
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10:05 AM
soooo now i'm interested!
Do you use any particular software to fuzz or you make your own python scripts?
 
BASH scripting is really hard to grasp
 
@daya hence why i keep it to the minimum :P
 
I mean most confusing is variables
Like : a=5; a+=5;
echo $a
55!
 
sounds like string concat :p
 
And a=a+5
echo $a
a+5!
Lol
 
10:10 AM
Stackoverflow has like everything man, i'm almost never let down...
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Q: How can I add numbers in a bash script

NickI have this bash script and I had a problem in line 16. How can I take the previous result of line 15 and add it to the variable in line 16? #!/bin/bash num=0 metab=0 for ((i=1; i<=2; i++)); do for j in `ls output-$i-*`; do echo "$j" metab=$(cat $j|grep EndBuffer|awk...

 
Yep
But what I meant is BASH is somewhat hard as compared to other programming languages
 
10:24 AM
@HamZa I use AFL, usually.
It's great for complex binary formats like video/audio codecs.
 
And one more thing regarding Command and Arguments:
 
10:54 AM
My internet connection was lost unexpectedly!
lol
And one more thing regarding Command and Arguments:
I read that Command and it's arguments are separated by a whitespace that means first word is command and rest are it's arguments
Then why `ls -la` and `ls -l -a` are same?
Shouldn't BASH interpret `l` and `a` as different arguements?
I mean when we write -la then BASH shouldn't consider it as one argument?
 
11:21 AM
It sees it as one argument but parses it into multiple ones. A general convention is that a single dash means that any letters that follow are their own flags, so -abc is equivalent to -a -b -c. By convention, a double-dash means it's a "long flag", and the entire thing is taken as an argument, so --verbose is one single flag.
 
11:37 AM
Ah thanks
 
It's really all by convention. You could make it like Windows and accept /? instead of --help if you wanted. In fact some programs don't even need to use a dash, for example tar cf file.tar /some/directory where cf is the same as -cf.
 
What you mean by accept / ?
 
As in, you could make a program accept (understand/use/support) the argument /?.
You might want to look up how argv and argc work in programs.
 
Oh, Well I rarely use Windows cmd
Though it's my primary Os
Mostly I use Linux shell
 
I don't use it either, I just mean that the -f and --flag are not required.
 
11:44 AM
@forest I will try
 
And that they're only used because that's how UNIX did it.
 
@forest Indeed, like ps aux and ps -aux
BTW, I learned php and just some SQL stuff is remaining to learn and then I should be ready to learn Web Application pentesting :D
 
 
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2:51 PM
@daya I tend to think it is the easiest one to start kids with. From about the age of 4 or 5 bash is logical and has no weird complexities
 
 
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4:17 PM
@RoryAlsop Well, not really at least for me
I mean I started from C, after that, languages like:- Python, PHP, JS was easy to grasp
And the thing is there is a *lot* to learn in BASH (all commands, globs, regex, special chars, expansion etc.) Unlike other languages which are pretty straight forward in which you have to just learn the syntax for conditionals, loops, functions, arrays etc
 
@daya Yeah, I started with C, Forth, Pascal and COMAL so bash was really easy
 
Yep, Actually it is just matter of opinions of different persons
 
4:33 PM
@RoryAlsop That's true, but I would also have some degree of plausible deniability. If pressed for the encryption key, I could say something like "I don't know what key the program used to encrypt the data. It probably asked for a password and I would have given it **** or *******. I don't even remember what program I used."
How much can you compel someone to divulge information that you can't prove they have? But I suppose they'd answer that question behind the doors of Guantanamo...
 
@jdgregson all depends on threat model. If government eg UK or US want to, they can hold you under terrorism laws if you don't divulge (even if you have forgotten) - ie guilty until proven innocent!
but that is obviously the extreme
 
@forest That's a good idea. And if the file is < 4GB, it would be fairly easy to use an old 4GB MicroSD card which isn't that useful for anything else these days.
@RoryAlsop And supposing I did eventually cave and divulge the key, how easy is it to detect that there is still a hidden volume in the TrueCrypt volume? That question has always bothered me.
 
@RoryAlsop Thanks, I'll give those a read when I have some time.
On a non-related note, does anyone know much about BitLocker To Go? I use it to encrypt a high-capacity SD card. I'm sure it gives a reasonable level of security, but since it doesn't rely on a TPM, it's much less secure than the main boot drive. However, I have found zero technical documentation on how it actually works, and very little consumer-oriented information. MS is basically like "it's BitLocker for thumb drives. Here's more on BitLocker..."
 

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