Winter Bash! 2018 edition

1:32 AM

My 2nd attempt at Red Baron – meta.stackexchange.com/a/320192/327561

Fingers crossed, cause my first attempt failed terribly

3:18 AM

May i ask someone? :-) how do you get Clean-up Duty hat? ( I am not asking how to get Waffle hat because i got it already :D in a way that i don't know how i got it :D, lol), i don't see it here: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/320012/…

Nog Shine

You should retag some questions probably a mixture of old and new questions.

How did you get Waffles hat?

U9-Forward

@NogShine I don't know how i got it :-)

Panda

@U9-Forward hey that's my answer ;-)

Panda

4:08 AM

Seems like simply retagging doesn't award the Clean-up Duty hat

It's possible that it's retag 2 or 3 days in a row

Eran

5:09 AM

Good morning. If you haven't already, posting an answer to meta.stackexchange.com/questions/320012/… while it's still at -3 is a great chance to win Red Baron, which is probably the hardest hat.

nohillside

6:19 AM

Do add to the Clean-Up Duty mystery: I did some retag about 10 questions yesterday (plus some normal mod stuff), got Clean-Up (and Propel) this morning

But looking at the users on AskDifferent who actually got the Clean-Up hat as well it can't be purely retagging

Alexander O'Mara

7:07 AM

Why didn't I get SO Goes Flapper here? apple.stackexchange.com/a/345560/70505

QHarr

7:18 AM

I did just over 10 re-tags and normal editing of questions stuff and got propel - was expecting clean-up.

Alexander O'Mara

What's the theory for getting clean-up?

QHarr

From reading the above I thought it was doing 10+ retags originally. But I haven't read the updates above since yesterday (GMT).

Ah... propel appears to be for Get three other secret hats on one site - according to winter-bash-2018-hat-list

nohillside

@AlexanderO'Mara Maybe you get Flapper only if the long answer was accepted, you posted a short one, and the OP moved the accept to your answer?

Nog Shine

8:05 AM

So, is there any progress on Cleanup duty?

Panda

8:19 AM

Cleanup Duty isn't purely retag, cause I already retagged 20+ questions so far

Nog Shine

When did Winterbash star? 11 December...time?

@Dylan Born from the ashes 😎

Check my user activity. I did some tag edits yesterday and today. A couple of them a day before yesterday too.

Panda

@NogShine Dec 12 at 0:00 UTC

Maybe it's do tag edits for 2 days in a row

Nog Shine

I did tag edits 3 days in a row.

Panda

8:41 AM

I guess it could be that, but many users got it on the 2nd day of WB, so I presume it’s 2 days in a row

QHarr

I do tag edit most days and did 10+ yesterday and another 10 today - no clean-up

Admittedly, many of these were adding new relevant tags rather than changing existing. Don't know if that matters?

Feeds

10:22 AM

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Q: Why are glasses considered hats?

Some hats appear to be glasses: Retro Fan ...and yet these are called hats, instead of say some broader category such as "head wear" or "novelty disguise" or something. Why?

eLRuLL

3:00 PM

anyone else waiting for the "Red Baron" hat? I answered a question at -4 that got +3 and my answer got +5, but haven't got the hat yet. My answer wasn't accepted though

Eran

@eLRuLL if the question was upvoted by you, it has to get to +4

eLRuLL

@Eran that's great observation. I'll wait for more upvotes then. Thanks ;)

Panda

3:15 PM

Any other theories for Clean-up Duty, other than retagging? (retagging didn't work)

Eran

3:30 PM

@Panda my latest idea (not tested but fits with my hat) is edit 5 questions in which you have an upvoted answer. There are badges with similar criteria. Not sure if the answers must be posted during WB or not.

Panda

@Eran ah, thanks, let me check that out

Eran

@Panda just tested this theory on MSE. Will let you know if it works.

Panda

@Eran Thanks!

Panda

3:59 PM

Didn't seem to work for me :(

That's a tough one to crack, together with Waffles

DavidPostill

4:18 PM

I'm 2 votes short of a Scarf Ace hat :/

Eran

stackoverflow.com/questions/53786325/… and I'm one vote short of James Bond

DavidPostill

@Eran Really? ;) Please see my post ^^^ :)

Eran

@DavidPostill it's 1 now :)

eLRuLL

there you go

jknappen

@DavidPostill 2 votes short of the Merlin and The Propeller: linguistics.stackexchange.com/questions/27778/…

DavidPostill

4:25 PM

@jknappen It's 1 now :)

jknappen

:-) Thx!

eLRuLL

not anymore :)

Panda

lol can I get DVs meta.stackexchange.com/questions/319845/…

for Sun Wukong

DavidPostill

Lol. 1 dv applied.

Panda

thanks ;)

jknappen

4:27 PM

@panda -1

eLRuLL

you deserve it, -1

Panda

yep I've got 3 now, it's enough

thanks!

jknappen

@eLRuLL Thanks. Waitng for the postman to deliver the hats :-)

Panda

Anyone got Waffles recently and have any theories?

DavidPostill

And 1 UV need for the Merlin :)

alecxe

4:32 PM

@DavidPostill done :)

DavidPostill

Thanks. And I just got identification division, which I wasn't expecting :)

Matthieu Brucher

Got the waffles almost at the beginning before knowing about hats :/ No idea why.

Cleanup could be removing one's comments after editing an answer?

eLRuLL

I think all people that have "Waffles" also have "Clean-Up Duty"?

Panda

@eLRuLL This user has Waffles w/o Clean-up math.stackexchange.com/users/626177/…

jknappen

No this is not the case, on linguistics linguistics.stackexchange.com/users/23365/tobiornottobi has Waffles but not Claen-up duty

DavidPostill

4:37 PM

@DavidPostill Ah. Guru is a silver badge. So if you get Scarf Ace you automatically get identification division

Panda

Yep, +2 hats :)

Eran

If you still haven't tried for Red Baron, you can try answering this question - meta.stackexchange.com/questions/320012/… - then we'll have to get it to positive score. A bounty can help

DavidPostill

@eLRuLL No. I have Waffles but no Clean Up.

Eran

I meant to link the question, not the answer

eLRuLL

what about someone having "Clean-Up Duty" but no "Waffles"?

Eran

4:38 PM

I have both, but got Waffles much sooner

Panda

@Eran It's still honestly the best candidate for Red Baron

The questions for my other 2 Red Baron candidates got -4 and a whopping -10 :)

Eran

@Panda yes, I think it's much easier to reverse the course of a question on meta than on regular sites

Panda

@Eran totally agreed

jknappen

Clean-up without Waffles is possible, see this one askubuntu.com/users/527764/zanna

eLRuLL

@jknappen great, thank you

Panda

4:45 PM

I think it's possible for Clean-up Duty to be edit tags 2 days in a row

And it has to be of a combination of removing and adding tags on separate questions

Eran

@Panda when you tried my latest theory for cleanup, did you edit new questions only (posted during WB)?

Panda

@Eran nope, they're a combination of new & old

Eran

@Panda maybe they should be all new

Panda

@Eran let me try it on Meta.SE

jknappen

The user with clean-up without waffles spent a lot of time in the review queues. Probably some specific review actions ...

... in some weird combination (like improving edits, rejecting edits and so on, there was such a hat before)

Noon

4:51 PM

@jknappen I have clean-up and no waffles (IPS), if you want to analyze my activity

Panda

@Eran done, I'll tell you if I get the hat

Eran

@Panda thanks

Panda

@jknappen Could it be "use all options in a review queue", I remember there was a hat somewhere along those lines before

Oh, it was They Live in 2016

> In the suggested edit review queue, either "Improve Edit" or "Reject and Edit" 5 times

Anyone never used the "Reject and Edit" button and got the hat

Eran

@Panda when I tried that I didn't get the hat (both 5 improve edit and 5 reject edit)

Panda

@Eran ah so that's ruled out

eLRuLL

4:59 PM

@Noon when did you get that hat?

Eran

@Panda unless there was a huge delay, and my final tag edits that seemed to trigger the hat had nothing to do with it.

Noon

@eLRuLL Something like 21 hours ago

Panda

@Eran I used up 20 reviews today, I guess I can try that out tomorrow

@Noon Did you happen to use "Reject and Edit" often?

Noon

@Panda I have done zero review of suggest edit, reopen vote or low quality queue recently (but still did flag and vtd for low quality)

Panda

@Noon thanks, so it's ruled out @Eran

Anyway, I'm gonna sleep, will try out more stuff tomorrow and update you guys

Eran

5:10 PM

@Panda good night

QHarr

I got waffles and pretty sure wasn't doing anything other than commenting/editing and answering. Can it be number of comments based/ time between comments?

@eLRuLL Not true

Noon

@QHarr Time between comments would be really unfair for small sites (where you haven't so much to comment on)

QHarr

@Noon True. I definitely wasn't using any review queues at the time though.

jknappen

The postman was here and brought the Merlin, I think he'll ring another time soon. The enlightned badge took almost half an hour to appear, the hat was faster, than.

Thanks to all who helped!

.. and here is the propeller!

Noon

5:41 PM

Any reason why people here think the clean-up hat is for editing tag and not flagging for NAA/VLQ and be right ?

Jesse Busman

To get brunhilde, do you have to earn 150 rep total on 3 different sites? Or >= 150 rep on each site?

jknappen

On each site. It is quite tough to get this one.

Jesse Busman

@jknappen Ah. I was afraid of that, thanks :)

Eran

5:58 PM

@Noon I got cleanup after editing tags of 10 questions, but it probably wasn't the tag edit alone that triggered it.

eLRuLL

@QHarr not true what? :D I said a lot of untruthful stuff

jknappen

Is there a query on data.stackexchange.com to determine answers that are one vote off the Pizza hat (aka Extra Toppings from a former Winterbash)?

Matthieu Brucher

@panda I don't think it has anything with tags, I don't edit tags very often and got the waffles very soon. But commenting, upvote downvote, yes.

And not flagging either. Seldomly flag anything.

I may be wrong, of course.

DavidPostill

6:35 PM

One UV required for Freehand Circle ...

Erik the Outgolfer

deposes mod

:P

DavidPostill

Stating a fact is not the same as asking for votes :)

3

Erik the Outgolfer

yeah... you can see I haven't upvoted that just because you stated a fact ;-)

Mithrandir

23 votes each before Brunhilde... Just stating a fact...

;)

DavidPostill

@EriktheOutgolfer That's strange, because I don't see any recent upvotes because you haven't upvoted ...

Rob

6:45 PM

Factscinating

Erik the Outgolfer

@DavidPostill maybe check again? ...

DavidPostill

@EriktheOutgolfer Hmm. I blame caching :)

Thanks for all the upvotes from people who haven't upvoted because I stated a fact instead of blatantly begging ... ;)

Erik the Outgolfer

btw... your answer over there is wrong, it will never insert https://i.stack.imgur.com/G8RJd.png nowadays

;)

DavidPostill

@EriktheOutgolfer Hmm. I will have to think about updating it then :)

Erik the Outgolfer

tfw pings are so many that you start replying to winks...

Riker

8:23 PM

I think the duck hat has a more detailed trigger than just hitting the discard button (either that or it's bugged)

I discarded a draft on PPCG and on linguistics yesterday, and another one on linguistics ~20 minutes ago (I also posted a question like 2m ago as well there)

I haven't tried discarding answer drafts at all though, and I'm still waiting another 15 or so to make sure it isn't going to proc from the most recent discarded draft

Mithrandir

I got it without discarding an answer draft.

I did discard a question draft.

Riker

hm ok

also, I don't believe it was text length, I wrote a 2 sentence one on PPCG and discarded that along with a 2 paragraph one on linguistics

Erik the Outgolfer

just discarded a (nonsensical) question draft over Meta.SE too, let's see...

Riker

^ same with PPCG a minute ago

the transcript seems to imply it takes a while, is this reproable for everybody?

Erik the Outgolfer

yes

Mithrandir

8:31 PM

Took about an hour for me

Erik the Outgolfer

hats always take a great while

Riker

I mean normally it's not longer than 30 min or so last I checked

Erik the Outgolfer

I think it refreshes hourly

let's go back to the Triage reviews...

QHarr

@eLRuLL lol. Was about waffles + clean-up.

Feeds

9:19 PM

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Q: Winter bash Secret Hats 2018

So where is the question that shows all the secret hats for 2018 as I've got 2 already but can't find the canonical question for them. Or am I the first one to ask this year?