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11:20 AM
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4:30 PM
@bmike Not to free up space, but on High Sierra I had nothing but trouble with them & was constantly trying to clear out bad ones. That was why I jumped to Mojave at the first public beta.
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Q: Recurring Volume damage + Time Machine issues

TetsujinThis may take some explaining, so please bear with me. Mac Pro 4,1/5,1 High Sierra 10.13.5 4 HDs & a boot SSD installed. Related to Add Recovery Partition to APFS drive? & peripherally to Mac Pro with permanently mounted Time Machine. Local snaps any benefit? At the point this started I had don...

That was a small part of the constant tales of woe that was High Sierra. I couldn't wait to get rid of it.
 
 
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6:14 PM
Hi @Tetsujin Thanks for the comments - it looks like that question is really a side rant (polite one, but a rant nonetheless agitating that Apple do something) as well as a question we have lots of "I deleted files - now what"
I'm tempted to put an answer - if you have no backup - try these questions. If you have Time Machine - enter it and see if local snapshots or a remote backup have the files you want. If so, restore them. if not try these questions which cover data recovery options quite well...
Any objections to handling it that way?
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Q: How to recover files "emptied" from trash

axiopistyI recently updated to macOS Mojave. I was experimenting with the new desktop stack feature. Long story short, I ended up creating a folder on the dock and putting all the files from my desktop into it. When I did this all the files stayed on the desktop, so I deleted them (moved them to trash). W...

 
6:27 PM
@Tetsujin That's good to know. Apple doesn't document well and the log files are super opaque when things break. I imagine some people are in dire straits when it can't auto clean.
Also, when you don't connect to your backup disk, it keeps the snapshots around for weeks if there is space. I went to Hawaii for 3 weeks and was amazed how long the snapshots lasted and could go to Time Machine and pull back files from the day after I left even though I had no backup destination to copy to - just well functioning snapshots
 
@bmike Maybe come this year's Hat Season, I really will post a QA with "recover from your backup" as the only answer ;)
@bmike My issue [apart from the fact it kept breaking] was that my Time Machine drive is permanently connected, it's a Mac Pro, so the drive is just in one of the drive slots - so it' didn't need to be making those snapshots at all.
oh, I just noticed - I do like your edit into the currently high-voted answer.
 
7:20 PM
@Tetsujin yes. It’s not clear if OP has no hope of time machine or just didn’t check.
@Tetsujin wear some asbestos lined knickers
 
@bmike I think the OP would rather rant than accept responsibility for the failure to keep backups ;)
@bmike I shall don my super-pants, pants-with-foil-flame-retardant, just in case ;)
 
7:38 PM
I am not going to flag this but clemsam has kinda got derogatory apple.stackexchange.com/questions/338081/…
His answer I could not repeat so I left a comment and it subsequently received 2 downvotes. He wasn't happy about it as you can probably tell by the comments.
The answer is now deleted but I wasn't saying he was wrong but my machine and obviously somebody else's did also work differently so I couldn't repeat it for sure.
 
 
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10:55 PM
@William Thanks. feel free to flag as other anytime you're not super comfortable. This is fine, too of course
 

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