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> I carefully filed it with other movies I will watch when they introduce the 8-day week. Then I was told I must see it. I began. I was enchanted. I was swept away. I was smiling from one end of the film to the other. It is astonishingly original. It brings together four entirely separate elements and combines them into a great whimsical chord. How did [its creator's] mind work?

Matt Эллен

@KitFox it's so happy that you're well enough to work that it can't concentrate?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Roger Ebert on Sita Sings the Blues.

You can watch it online for free.

sitasingstheblues.com/watch.html

Robusto

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 But I have all this porn to get through.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

3:25 PM

Indeed, you have to get through it so you can finally watch Sita.

Robusto

But they keep making more!

How will I ever catch up?

Matt Эллен

I decided I'll stick to bound capacity. — Motig 12 mins ago

@KitFox ^^^^

KitFox

bloody hell.

Matt Эллен

he accepted the answer with most words

Robusto

@KitFox No complaining about your period in chat.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

3:28 PM

What is this grammar?

Robusto

It's not grammar, it's punctuation. Period.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

My capacity bounds to nöone.

JSBᾶngs

@Robusto this reminds me of an art project a friend of mine wanted to do

supposedly there are 3,600 youtube videos uploaded every minute

so he wanted to create an array of 3,600 youtubes playing simultaneously, so that you could watch it and catch up on all the youtube

Matt Эллен

60x60 video wall...

KitFox

this is f-cking ridiculous.

JSBᾶngs

3:34 PM

plus a shit-ton of bandwidth

Matt Эллен

@KitFox the crashing?

KitFox

i am trying to get in to see the dentist about a filling that he did last week and they can't fit me in until the 24th of June.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

And only one of them would be worth watching, and you'd never be looking at the right one.

KitFox

but they'll put me on the cancellation list. sorry i'm in pain.

Matt Эллен

(0_0)

KitFox

3:38 PM

ok no it's the 24th of may. still 10 days from now

i f-cking hate dentists

JSBᾶngs

@KitFox boycott them.

KitFox

i should have called immediately after but i was going to see him again last thursday except i couldn't because i was sick.

I just want to have all of my teeth removed and replaced with dentures.

Dental circumcision.

Whoa.

yay!

3:40 PM

Iz better?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@JSBᾶngs you are an antidentite!

KitFox

@aediaλ smooch

JSBᾶngs

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 a raging antidentite.

they should have their own schools.

KitFox

My apologies to Ms. Owl; Reg tweened or I wouldn't have smooched him. It was an accident.

Matt Эллен

Awww, you're not an accident, @Kit.

aedia λ

3:41 PM

giggles

KitFox

I hate today.

scowls

Although I was an accident.

It's on my list of Mom examples.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@KitFox well that's very practical. How many Two minutes hates is that? My guess is OVER 9000.

KitFox

"[Oldest brother] was a surprise, [middle kid] was planned, and you were an accident."

In a cheery voice, as though that wouldn't be devastating for a kid to hear.

JSBᾶngs

does anybody want to hear how our meeting with the psych people went?

KitFox

Yes!

Matt Эллен

3:44 PM

[happy] accident*

Yes.

KitFox

@MattЭллен No.

JSBᾶngs

@KitFox it doesn't mean they don't love you, though

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Oh right. The psycho meeting.

KitFox

My mother also told me (offhandedly) that my father talked her out of an abortion, and that's why I'm here.

JSBᾶngs

so, basically, our oldest is 4, but his linguistic and cognitive development is at 22 months. he's gonna start meeting regularly with an early childhood devel. teacher and a speech therapist

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

3:45 PM

Well I'll catch up later. Gotta run now.

JSBᾶngs

@KitFox ok, that's morbid

glad you weren't murdered pretanally, though

KitFox

Anally murdered?

JSBᾶngs

@KitFox lol.

i'm not going to fix it now

KitFox

@JSBᾶngs Cognitive too? I thought just linguistic development was delayed?

Anyway, she knew at about eight weeks, so it wouldn't have been murder at that point.

JSBᾶngs

@KitFox it's hard to separate them at this age, because he has trouble following directions. but he wasn't able to complete any of the cognitive diagnostic tasks above the 28 month level

KitFox

3:48 PM

Well, I'm sure that will help.

I bet it won't take long before he accelerates and catches up.

JSBᾶngs

yeah. going to preschool has been great for him.

we're pretty confident that he'll catch up in time for 1st grade

we'll keep him back for a second year of K if necessary

KitFox

I have a friend who was kept back twice in 1st grade.

He still feels a little awkward about telling people that, but he admits that it was the best thing for him. He did fine in school once he "got" it.

JSBᾶngs

@KitFox ouch? how did she do?

yeah, the best bet is to hold kids back early, before they get a stigma

aedia λ

@JSBᾶngs I'm glad you're able to get him appropriate help!

KitFox

And it was harder to notice that he was older than the other kids too.

OK I've got go. Later!

Matt Эллен

3:56 PM

Me too. CU

JSBᾶngs

bai!

Gigili

4:16 PM

How to reply when someone asks "mind talking about it?"

Sure means I do mind?

Robusto

@Gigili It depends. Do you mind?

Gigili

No, I don't mind.

Robusto

"Sure" would mean you consent to talk.

"No" would also mean you consent.

Even "yes" could be construed as "go ahead."

Gigili

Then I was right.

Robusto

The only way to be certain to indicate your lack of desire to talk would be, "Yes, I do mind" or "Sorry, not right now. Maybe later?" Etc.

Gigili

4:17 PM

Thanks.

z7sg Ѫ

5:06 PM

@Vitaly @Vitaly @Vitaly

Let's see if that works...

Matt Эллен

Reply with "I don't answer question where a negative would be construed as a positive. Didn't you know?"

z7sg Ѫ

Btw does anybody know what that dotted line means?

Vitaly

Huh?

Matt Эллен

last place you were in chat before it lost focus I think

z7sg Ѫ

Sorry for waking you Vitaly but I have a question about a Russian word.

Vitaly

5:08 PM

Oh. Go ahead.

z7sg Ѫ

Well a name actually, is this a joke name: хуйштейн?

Vitaly

Yeah. Literally, Cockstein.

z7sg Ѫ

Is that it, purely just an offensive word?

Vitaly

Though хуй is more offensive in Russian than cock in English, but I suppose between male friends it's acceptable in jokes.

z7sg Ѫ

Sorry to have bothered you for that.

Vitaly

5:10 PM

It's possible I am missing something, but if so I am not seeing anything in there…

z7sg Ѫ

Yeah of course there is a relative difference between how offensive the equivalent words are...

Well thanks anyway I thought that might be the case!

Vitaly

Anytime.

@z7sgѪ Oh, and I don't know how relevant this is, but obscene words in Russian can be used in certain registers to form rhyming terms of derision, like fancy, schmancy in English (but хуй etc are used instead of the schm-). Thus, Эйнштейн, Хуйштейн could be said to express disregard for Einstein and his physics

Cerberus

Is it like /xyj/?

Ah, Einstein, Chooystein?

Vitaly

@Cerberus forvo.com/word/%D1%85%D1%83%D0%B9/#ru

Cerberus

Hmm yes, that sounds close enough.

But it's hard to actually know what you're hearing when it is a foreign tongue.

z7sg Ѫ

5:17 PM

twitter.com/#!/search/…

Cerberus

Ah, the Game of Thrones has finished...

z7sg Ѫ

I don't understand what is going on there tbh.

Vitaly

Nor do I.

It appears they are forcing the hashtag for some reason.

z7sg Ѫ

Ah maybe it's really funny. To them anyway.

@Cerberus Who won it?

Cerberus

@z7sgѪ Eh I did.

Mahnax

5:20 PM

Helllllllooooooo.

Cerberus

Ahoy!

z7sg Ѫ

well i'm out, mahnax you can have my throne

Vitaly

I remember that a lot of Russian-speaking users had successfully forced the #хуй hashtag to the top when Twitter implemented Cyrillic hashtags. That stuff was in leading trends or whatever it's called.

Mahnax

@z7sgѪ Thanks!

@Cerberus I greet thee, pirate-dog.

Vitaly

CU z7sg!

z7sg Ѫ

5:21 PM

@Vitaly wow hilarity! cheers

Cerberus

@Mahnax Hello, landlubber.

Mahnax

@Cerberus Well, this was a fancy conversation and all, but it's lunchtime. Bye!

Cerberus

Arrr them German Pirates got 8 % of the votes in Nordrhein-Westfahlen, which has 18 million inhabitants.

@Mahnax Arr!

KitFox

Aww. I'm missing @Vitaly because I am taking a nap.

Cerberus

The dream inspired you such as to crave his company?

Gigili

5:32 PM

What do you call a person who's very interested in politics?

A political animal?

KitFox

@Cerberus No, I always crave his company. I haven't any idea why though. I think it's because it is so difficult for me to monitor my status with him.

@Gigili That sounds good.

Gigili

Uhum, thank you.

KitFox

Now everybody sshhh I'm taking a nap.

Cerberus

@KitFox Wow, this is complicated...you like hard to get!

Sweet dreams!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

5:56 PM

►

Matt Эллен

6:17 PM

lol "so whose house is this?"

aedia λ

6:31 PM

@Robusto Hope all goes well for you tomorrow.

I've tried to catch up on transcript a bit, but it's rather hopeless...

falls asleep in coffee mug

JSBᾶngs

i just now noticed a syntactic ambiguity in @Robusto's starred message

it can mean "don't get married to people of the same sex", but also "don't perform marriages for people of the same sex"

which makes it a much more interesting piece of advice

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

6:48 PM

I think someone in a state that allows gay marriage tried to deny a gay couple from getting a marriage license on the basis of it was against his or her religion. then he or she was surprised to lose his/her job.

Gigili

7:37 PM

It'll be published on or in the website?

on

Thanks.

np

Did I make any mistakes there:

> When will you be able to advertise the application on the website ?
When will the newspaper be published ?
When will you send me the invoice before Friday via email ?
Please let me know as soon as possible if you agree and tell me about the publication date on the website and paypal’s link.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Well, your first line has "in the website", should be "on"

"When will you send me the invoice before Friday via emai l ?" doesn't make sense to me

Is it supposed to be a question, and a suggested answer? "When will you send me the invoice, and how? Before Friday, and via email?"

Gigili

7:41 PM

When will you email me the invoice before Friday?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Finally, it's customary in English writing to not leave a space before the ?

"before Friday" is already an answer to "when will you email me the invoice"

Gigili

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Uhum, that was a typo.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

So I'm not sure what it's doing in that question. Do you already know that the email will arrive before friday, and you want to narrow it down further? Or are you just hoping that you can get the email by friday?

Gigili

@MrShinyandNew安宇 A day in this week but before Friday, maybe?

I'm not sure what it's supposed to mean.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Are you trying to ask "at what point in time before Friday will the email arrive"? or "I would like to have your email before Friday, when will it arrive?"

or something else

Gigili

7:47 PM

Must be something like that, thanks.

N3buchadnezzar

8:11 PM

Hmmm

"well, if your left arm fell off, then your right arm would be left. " But you would still be all right, right ?

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Meysam رها در بند

What's the meaning of time-out as a punishment?

KitFox

@JSBᾶngs Not performing marriages that are considered in any way objectionable for any reason was (and continues to be) specifically allowed in our state, and the opposition still used the "forcing churches to marry gay people" rhetoric.

@Meysamرهادربند You mean like for children?

user19161

@N3buchadnezzar There should not be a space before the question mark. Also, although this is a pun, note the difference between alright and all right.

Meysam رها در بند

@KitFox Yup, let me tell you where I saw that:

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Q: How can I stop bad language in the home?

Possible Duplicate: What do we do when timeouts are not effective? My children are aged 6-10. The consistent use of bad Language including the F word is way out of control. Things like idiot, loser, retard - are just so unacceptable to me. I have tried punishment like time-out but it ...

JSBᾶngs

it's where you beat your children with a cane until they beg for mercy

KitFox

8:18 PM

When you give a child a time-out, the must sit in a corner (or other designated place) for a certain amount of time. The length of time is dependent on age, usually around two mintues.

N3buchadnezzar

@ClarkKent Me no engrish ? Yeah, I know =)

KitFox

Time outs are not particularly effective once children are old enough to communicate their feelings well.

JSBᾶngs

@KitFox REALLY? i must have been doing it wrong all this time

KitFox

@JSBᾶngs Haven't you ever watched Supernanny?

What do you do for timeouts?

JSBᾶngs

@KitFox yes, actually. we think it's great.

(i was joking earlier. i know what a timeout is.)

KitFox

8:19 PM

oh. hahahaha. i just woke up.

Oh! The boys are home. Later!

N3buchadnezzar

That whole grounding thing has lost its effect today..

user19161

What's the maximum number of questions one can post in a day? I think Krishna has posted six already, and I downvoted five of them.

N3buchadnezzar

Robusto

@Meysamرهادربند Bad language is awesome and should be encouraged.

JSBᾶngs

@KitFox yeah, i can't imagine anyone trying to time-out a kid past the age of 5 or so

user19161

8:20 PM

@N3buchadnezzar its

Robusto

@N3buchadnezzar Family Circus is evil.

N3buchadnezzar

@Robusto Oh ?

Meysam رها در بند

@N3buchadnezzar Is "Go to your room!" considered a time-out too?

user19161

@N3buchadnezzar Somehow I imagine that is you in the picture!

N3buchadnezzar

@ClarkKent Time-out for me would be no whiskey, girls, or motorcycles indoors!

Robusto

8:21 PM

@N3buchadnezzar That's it? "Oh?"

user19161

@N3buchadnezzar Oh? I associated whiskey with Jonas. Now I do that with you as well.

user19161

@N3buchadnezzar Again, there should be no space before the question mark.

N3buchadnezzar

I actually prefer vodka but ...

JSBᾶngs

whiskey is way better than vodka

user19161

@N3buchadnezzar Reg likes vodka too. But note that according to Mr Shiny, vodka taken bucketwise is not wise.

Meysam رها در بند

8:23 PM

N3buchadnezzar

@JSBᾶngs It depends if your goal is to get drunk, or enjoy a glass in front of the fireplace.

@Meysamرهادربند How did you find that image? I was looking for it too!

JSBᾶngs

@N3buchadnezzar my goal is the latter, and whiskey is far superior for that purpose. unlike vodka, it has a taste.

Robusto

The nuclear option at our house always included video/computer grounding.

Meysam رها در بند

@N3buchadnezzar I googled "comic go to your room"

N3buchadnezzar

@JSBᾶngs I totally agree, although I drink Vodka for the former. Screw drivers.

Robusto

8:25 PM

Best Marvel comics villain ever? Dr. Room.

N3buchadnezzar

Is she was female, I would gladly obey.

The evil villain, Ms.GoToMyRoom.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Bah. I come back to a pineapple feast.

Edited a couple worthless questions into shape, but they won't stop coming.

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Q: Is it correct append 'No' to a question as some people do

I have always been puzzled by some sentences people make that end in a no.For instance;Let's say,someone instructed you not to leave your post before he/she arrives so when that person is back and you are not there,when you meet he/she says: "So you decided to wait for me elsewhere than we had ...

grammaticality

JSBᾶngs

Krishna has really been on a roll with the pineapple juice

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Q: 'An Inspector Calls' by J.B. Priestley characters

I know this is not suited for this site but since the closure of the Literature Stack Exchange, I thought I may as well give it a go on here as it would be less welcome elsewhere! In this play, the main characters are the Inspector, Mr. Birling, Mrs. Birling, Gerald, Sheila and Eric. What are t...