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2:07 PM
@BalarkaSen it's a weekend trial;
good thing
it's bad
 
bad because commie or really bad
 
@BalarkaSen gameplay isn't fun + poor performance
no story whatsoever
 
2:25 PM
Example of a climate denier:
Meanwhile, this one is not a climate denier, but a climate skeptic:
note their confusingly similar names
 
@BalarkaSen is it just me or is the deep media preparing us for a splinter cell announcement
 
It should be noted only climate deniers are [insert suitable word]
 
@Secret Refrain from calling people evil, please.
 
right, that word is too strong
 
@0celo7 Really? I haven't been keeping up
googles
 
2:28 PM
@BalarkaSen Been getting lots of recommended videos for it
 
But I don't know of weaker words? "chalartan"?
 
and just saw an interview with Michael Ironside
 
@Secret Well, you might hold the opinion that they are indeed evil. I'm not saying they are or they aren't, I'm saying that this is not the place to have that debate.
 
seems like something is brewing
 
Ah I see, yeah, I am just voicing my opinion
 
2:28 PM
@ACuriousMind why not it’s a physics chat
 
@eulB which means you can hold the argument that they are wrong, and even that they throw propaganda at us, but not that they are morally questionable
 
@eulB You can discuss the scientific merits of someone's beliefs without passing moral judgement on them.
 
From my perspective the climate scientists are evil
 
I really need a softer word than evil...
 
I think it's fine to conclude, at least, that climate deniers most likely have a propaganda to distribute.
 
2:30 PM
calm down dudes evil is rhetorical here
 
because evil is way too strong
 
Which is what I think @Secret should use
 
And well, I'm not saying moral judgements have no place here at all, but calling generic groups of people "evil" is neither Nice nor constructive to any sort of further discussio
 
@eulB LOL
 
2:30 PM
@BalarkaSen ah that's more accurate and indeed what I am trying to say
 
@eulB Are you the quantum computing blue?
 
How are you supposed to know what's right?
 
Okay thats different @Blue
 
@0celo7 That is precisely the kind of statement I just meant by "neither Nice nor constructive".
 
@0celo7 P a c i f i c g a r b a g e v o r t e x
 
2:31 PM
oh come on
@BalarkaSen I haven't seen it with my own eyes
 
@ACuriousMind Is it Nice if I threaten 0celo7 to throw him inside the pacific garbage vortex?
 
@BalarkaSen No.
 
Do it.
I dare you
 
swirling with the brethren
 
::puts hand on blade::
I dare you, Karl Sen
 
2:34 PM
With the power of god and radical leftists I'll legally bar your use of the word "blade" as it's offensive to the rest of us
Come at me bro
 
God is firmly on my side
 
I meant Norse gods. Nietschze killed the Christian God a long time ago.
Scandinavian socialism fam
 
I am speaking of Allah
 
Please carry out your duels on non-SE controlled territory :P
5
 
just because you’re not shaped like a sharp blade doesn’t mean you’re not a weapon. all long metal objects are weapons and that’s beautiful.
 
2:38 PM
::teleports behind Karl Sen::
 
NANI??
 
@Phase
 
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Q: what is the concept of differentiation? not the book definition but the real world process by which it works

Barun Jenai understand the laws of differentiation, taking out the derivatives, integration all but i wonder how the first mathematician or physicist came up with it. x^n has the derivative of nx^n-1. but how does it work? how to make my own formulas?

@BalarkaSen Should I do tutoring for Chegg?
 
Ma nama chegg
 
2:40 PM
What do they pay?
 
@0celo7 do you appreciate your sanity?
 
@JohnRennie >$20 an hour
 
@JohnRennie Probably not as much as you get for babysitting nukes ;)
 
I'd advise not to do tutoring for people too young
or you'll go insane
it's like trying to explain math to JD
 
@eulB yes
 
2:42 PM
@0celo7 Doesn't seem that much ..
 
@Slereah Depends on the topic and who you're teaching
 
@JohnRennie I have some choice words for you then
 
"bourgeoisie"?
 
it's 3x minimum wage
 
@0celo7 Friends of mine used to do real life tutoring, ad I recall that was quite well paid.
 
2:43 PM
rapping seems to be a profitable career too these days.
 
real life tutoring pays 8.50
 
@JohnRennie Are you free for 10 minutes?
 
if you want to tutor do it at AoPS
 
@BalarkaSen Then I'd have to deal with Ted, no thanks.
 
@0celo7 Really? Wow.
 
2:44 PM
@JohnRennie Maybe at Cambridge or Princeton you can make good money, but not here
 
@JohnRennie @0celo7 Real life tutors (outside of Uni) that I know get paid from ~£20-£50 per hour, depending on location. I'm paid ~£13 an hour tutoring/marking at Uni, so definitely more than $8.50 :P :)
 
@Abcd Not for te rest of the day I'm afraid. I'll be back tomorrow at the usual time.
 
@Mithrandir24601 I'm telling you what the situation here is
 
Okay
 
I know for a fact it's 8.50 through the university
 
2:45 PM
@0celo7 And I'm telling you that you'd be paid more in the UK, so maybe you should move to the UK? :P
 
No, I like to be heavily armed at all times
 
You can strap weights to your arms in the UK as well ...
 
Can I open carry an AR-15 in the UK?
 
@0celo7 Don't need to be heavily armed at all times in the UK :)
 
I don't need to be here either, it's more of a contingency plan
 
2:47 PM
get a trench coat with a dagger collection inside.
 
and good for my mental health
 
@JohnRennie That was... Much better than your normal 'jokes' :P
 
I have three requirements for life: lax gun laws, lots of bibles, and fast internet
 
@Mithrandir24601 not saying much though, is it :-)
 
@JohnRennie I don't want to lie to you
;)
 
2:48 PM
@0celo7 what about math?
 
@JohnRennie I think I have some kind of memory leak. Task manager says I'm using 10GB but when I add up everything I get 7GB
 
That's normal.
 
Oh, hey @Mithrandir24601 you seem very blue. Congrats!
 
@ACuriousMind Thanks! :D
 
hey what about me
im blue
too
 
2:49 PM
da ba dee da ba dae
 
@eulB not really important
I think I might actually be insane though
 
@eulB Stargnoc!
 
@Mithrandir24601 what are you mod of?
 
@ACuriousMind say what
 
2:50 PM
@Mithrandir24601 Cool :-)
 
are quantum computers orange cubes
 
The site looks like it's going really well
 
@JohnRennie Aside from the low numbers of questions per day, yeah :)
 
@JohnRennie what's your least favorite vegetable
 
@JohnRennie it’s just a fad. JD disproved them several times
 
2:51 PM
I listened to drone metal too much and now I'm having vertigo
help
 
wake up sheeple
 
@0celo7 swede
 
@JohnRennie I don't think we have that here
try again
 
@eulB Some people prefer to think of them as black boxes :P I think we just needed a design, quick, so that's what they came up with. We're gradually working on new ideas, although who knows if SE will get round to changing it (or if they want to)
 
I think you call them rutabagas
 
2:53 PM
wtf lol
 
Isn't that the US name?
Google, Google ...
 
holy god how unappetizing
 
Mashed swede/rutabaga. Bloody awful.
 
@JohnRennie I am looking for something to make tonight
 
looks like campus food
 
2:55 PM
why is it awful
 
my vegetables are limited to lettuce
 
Dum, dum, DUUUUUM ...
 
@BalarkaSen what do you eat in that bloody country of yours
 
I have just finished that. Chick pea curry (chole) on a vegetable pilao. It was really good :-)
 
no meat, no vegetables
 
2:56 PM
What John posted now is a popular food in India
 
@JohnRennie I'm about to make my famous eggs
 
That's because it's really good :-)
 
french style
with a threat of salmonella poisoning
and onions
 
@BalarkaSen foot lettuce?
 
@eulB stop.
 
2:57 PM
Just one egg, because un oeuf is un oeuf
 
what is foot lettuce
@JohnRennie 3 eggs so I can knock out two meals
and a bagel and some yogurt
good weekend breakfast
 
lmao of course you’d actually link that
 
@BalarkaSen what show is that actually from
 
the spaghet meme? it's from Goldilocks and the Three Bears
the foot lettuce bit is from the channel of that man with a god awful heart wrecking voice listing the number of times 4chan did something good or whatever the shit
 
3:01 PM
@ACuriousMind can you explain this to me reddit.com/r/de/comments/8c6kmr/…
 
@0celo7 It's a pun.
 
I don't understand puns in this language, nevermind german
explain please
 
@0celo7 Hetze means agitation. The woman on the photo is wearing a headset - sounding like Hetzset - and is part of a party widely regarded as populist and agitating.
 
Amazing
occasional reddit browsing brings up goldmines
 
@ACuriousMind is she like trump
 
3:04 PM
@JohnRennie $\ln \infty = \infty$ right?
 
watching fox news rn
pretty funny
 
@0celo7 I decline to answer that :P
 
@Abcd oh dear god
 
@Abcd Only if you are very loose about what "=" means :P
 
@Abcd infinity isn't a number, you can't take its logarithm
 
3:05 PM
Or, indeed, what $\infty$ means.
 
@ACuriousMind Yeah, I mean ln tending to infty tends to infty
 
the log does extend to $(0,\infty)\cup\{\infty\}$ in a continuous manner
 
LOL
 
@JohnRennie I mean x tending to infty
what is ln x
x tending to infty
infty right?
 
Yes, as $x \to \infty$ $\ln(x) \to \infty$
 
3:07 PM
Nice
 
It's so troublesome that LaTeX codes in chat environment don't render without setting up some software. I can't recognize many LaTeX codes before they are rendered.
 
@JohnRennie Actually I got $\ln(r/0)$ as the result :P
 
@BalarkaSen dude is not bad looking at all
 
so "loosely" its infinity
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Q: Why is the force on the charge at the tip of a cone infinite?

NavyColors_BlueImagine a charge $q$ that is located at the top of a hollow cone with a surface charge density $\sigma.$ The slant height is $L$ and the charge $q$ sits at the vertex of angle $2\theta$. We are interested in the force acting on the charge $q$. Assume that there are shells inside this hollow co...

 
3:08 PM
@0celo7 Scroll down the to the Tyson comment
 
Yeah I got the same thing as that guy (the questioner)
 
@BalarkaSen nooooooooo
 
Dessert. Pecan and maple twists.
Cooked by my own fair hand!
 
Wow delicious.
 
@0celo7 "Bhattacharya DeGrass Hawking" got me
 
3:12 PM
@JohnRennie how does my food look
 
Oniony
Eating raw onion keeps vampires away. But then it keeps everything away :-)
3
 
@JohnRennie A solid cone is made up of many hollow cones right? So if its infinite for a hollow cone, it must be infinite for a solid cone too. Is my conjecture correct?
 
@Abcd The charge will be on the surface of the conductor, so only the outermost conical shell matters anyway.
 
@JohnRennie "charge will be on surface of conductor", why can't it be inside?
 
3:28 PM
The field inside a conductor is always zero. One application of Gauss' law later and we find the charge inside a conductor is also zero.
 
i haven't done gauss law. My teacher taught us electric field and gave us two questions:
Find electric field at a point on the vertex due to :
Conical shell
Solid cone
And he said "you wont be able to one of them, we'll discuss about that tomorrow"
and i have found the one due to conical shell to be infinite
 
@Abcd ah, is that a uniform charge density inside the cone/shell?
 
@JohnRennie yes
@JohnRennie is "what"?
 
OK, it's an insulator not a conductor then. My bad.
 
@JohnRennie I am not getting. Can you please elaborate?
 
3:33 PM
I'm calling it a day now I'm afraid. We can pick this up tomorrow.
 
ok
 
3:52 PM
my wonderful FC5 character as seen by @Phase
@ACuriousMind If one writes GauB, should one also write GauBian?
 
@ACuriousMind someone didn't get the memo :P i.gyazo.com/5e39b97c36d84693a9c6f2162b2269f8.png
 
 
1 hour later…
5:01 PM
Relaxing on the beach while writting some Java code. Have an interview with Disney on Monday. Presumably nobody has been able to fill the position but they think i am the Rockstar programmer that woyld make the cut hehe. So i will be studying bleeding edge Java techniques and tools for Monday.
 
Cool
 
 
1 hour later…
6:37 PM
 
well, 43% of those 30% are wrong now...
 
snap
Stephen Hawking died again tonight
 
why did he die "again"?
that makes it about 83% now @heather
assuming that those 43% can't name any other living scientist
 
6:58 PM
not sure I can name a living scientist
hawking certainly wasn't a scientist
 
what was he then?
 
theoretical physicist
 
:-/
 
7:16 PM
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@JohnRennie My second attempt at a penne pugliese. I am in food heaven :)
 
Congrats @Mithrandir24601 and @heather on your election to moderators.
 
@skullpatrol Thanks! :D
 
7:45 PM
Unfortunately this answer contradicts Einstein, as well as the evidence that optical clocks go slower when they're lower, and the evidence for the existence of black holes. Black holes are black because the "coordinate" speed of light at the event horizon is zero. That's why the vertical light beam doesn't get out. And that does have an absolute meaning. — John Duffield 4 mins ago
@JohnRennie you just got Duffield'd
 
lol
THE EVIDENCE!!!
:-D
 
You brought GR to an E&E fight
 
doing some spring cleaning
the number of calculations on loose paper is insane
 
@Slereah should I keep old engineering homework?
 
7:54 PM
The new flat will be nice for that, btw
 
I'm attached to it for some reason
 
I can finally nail it to the wall
@0celo7 Depends how much you enjoy it, rly
I kept my physics stuff
But threw all my CS stuff in the garbage
 
don't enjoy it at all
but I have this feeling I shouldn't throw it away
it's probably just the hoarding part of my brain
 
Well I mean
You've got time
Just stick it somewhere
See if you still care about it next year
 
dump it in the trash and burn it
 
8:01 PM
I can slowly start the see the floor of my room
 
@0celo7 so apparently a bunch of the other people involved in the bootcamp also applied for the GR summer school thing but idk if any of them got funded
 
@EricSilva wonder how many people are going to be at this thing
if people from big schools are applying I probably got in because of nepotism
 
i mean you know more GR than any of us do
 
@EricSilva probably, but REUs don't run on merit
I know this isn't an REU, but same idea
 
I did my GRE today so it's time to get started on Wald
 
8:08 PM
@EricSilva like SMALL, I had two friends of Morgan's write letters and was very qualified for his project, but I didn't get it
nepotism failed me there
 
didn't morgan retire
 
last year
 
ahh ok
I mean small is also ultra selective so it's a crapshoot
 
@ZeroTheHero Thanks. Not really "my" paper though. We have long author lists because our lab depends on a lot of hardware and software infrastructure.
 
getting together all of my scratch work from the thesis
it's kind of scary
hopefully reading what I wrote doesn't take as much work as I needed to write it
 
8:10 PM
are you done with that yet
 
no, it's now months away again
 
@skullpatrol thanks!
 
hopefully by the end of the summer
I'm trying to write a full proof of the positive mass theorem but keep running into issues
 
I'd be willing to read it somewhat closely, given our interests pretty much overlap 99%
 
I appreciate it. If you want to read chapters 1-4 and the appendices, they're somewhat stable
Chapter 5 may or may not ever get finished, idk
 
8:12 PM
sure
 
@EricSilva do you wanna room at MIT or are you going w/ your friend
 
my friend already asked me to lol
sry
 
np
 
im p hype abt this, it seems like cool stuff
 
it looks very advanced
but it's like 10 days so maybe there's time
best part of cleaning is all the unused paper I find
 
8:24 PM
doubles as scoping out mit before applications in the fall
 
I think I know where I'm going
somewhere at the intersection of neopotism and opportunity
 
do you have an in via nepotism
lol
 
@DanielSank still... You are a co-author.
 
@EricSilva we should talk about this at MIT...compare notes
Andre probably knows everyone
 
He knows a lot of folk
we had a long convo about where i should apply a few weeks ago
 
8:27 PM
the best career move is to be Klainerman's student, obviously
but he probably locks you in a basement for 3 years before you can do work
 
he's the hyperbolic pde guy at princeton right?
 
yeah
very well connected guy
editor of the annals
 
o shit
fernando is there too tho
 
yeah, he would probably be my no 1 choice
but that's really a long shot
there's 1,000 people applying there that know more than both of us combined
 
and we've got the cultural connection
 
8:29 PM
crazy chinese kids who were doing ricci flow in high school
 
idk if id wanna go there if i got in tho
 
analytical Balarkas
@EricSilva where do you wanna go
 
idk
 
my biggest fear is going somewhere and getting stuck with an advisor
everyone's telling me to go to Irvine with Rick but he's really busy and basically the only geometric analyst there
 
André said that i should put it on my list
Schlag thinks i can get into a top place tho but i have no clue
 
8:34 PM
@EricSilva is Andre staying at Chicago?
 
yeah
André like juuust got here
this is only his second year here
 
It doesn't seem like a great place for my interests though
i don't think there's any GR people in the math department
so it's the getting stuck problem again
 
yeah no
 
no what?
 
André is great tho
no gr ppl
 
8:36 PM
princeton has GR and GA
same with columbia
Brendle is at columbia, and although all of his students do well, he seems like he could explode at any moment
 
André told me that the columbia GA ppl suck as advisors
 
If I'm remembering properly, there's just not much (pure, explicitly) GR research around compared with a lot of other areas
 
there's lots of it in math
 
@0celo7 Hmm, fair
 
@EricSilva you will have to tell me more about that
 
8:38 PM
i might also pivot into pure pde so idek, i can see myself doing it
 
Do you know much modern pure PDE?
 
no but idk much anything
 
do you know any modern pure PDE
 
im maybe working with a caffarelli student this summer
so ill learn some of that stuff
 
we have a joke about him here
 
8:40 PM
what
 
he's too powerful to say it aloud on the internet
I'm already fucked because I mentioned Simon above
he googles himself
 
we can start a private room and continue talking abt this there
it's already kinda weird to clutter the hbar with this
 
@EricSilva do you wanna text
 
we can gchat
my phone isnt within arms reach so gg
 
I remember in Nottingham, it was all alternatives to GR, QFT, Loop Quantum Gravity, Black Holes etc. Cambridge has cosmology. That's about as far as I went in terms of looking within the UK (for GR-related areas) :P One of my lecturers did send me a list of places in the US and another sent me a list in Germany, but I don't know where they'd be now
 
8:43 PM
inb4 SB has access to google data
@EricSilva it won't let me make a hangout with you
 
@ZeroTheHero Yeah I know. I'm just trying to direct credit to where it's due :-)
 
@0celo7 i sent u a thing w my gmail
i think my uchicago account wont let me
 
ah ok
 
@DanielSank I know what you mean. When my next paper in Science appears I'll let you know. :D
 

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