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12:08 AM
 
Ave
OH GOD
I GOT APRIL FOOLED
 
i like XKCD today
it has mornington crescent built-in!!!!
 
 
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3:20 AM
woohoo, I've got a working progressive web app based on Vaadin with all the UI code written in Java
 
3:52 AM
wow, that's a lot of problems
 
4:46 AM
@Ave Ha, by whom?
 
Bob
@allquixotic PWA on Safari sounds like a nightmare
 
hm
Dosen't that sound a lot like what they originally wanted to do on the iphone?
 
@Bob yeah I was hopeful but it sounds pretty disastrous
@JourneymanDuck the article says that
but Android does PWA better than iPhone even with the latest enhancements
 
@allquixotic cause, well
safari is kinda sucky It seems
and they won't let any other rendering engine run on the iphone
 
Bob
5:16 AM
We disabled fullscreen mode on iOS and told users to not save bookmarks to the home screen because it opens it in an alternate mode (?!?!) that somehow messes up dimension calculations (?!?!?!?!?!?!)
If you ignore IE11 (i.e. assume most recent Edge), Safari is the quirkiest mainstream browser.
Also, "at least it's not IE" is a pretty low bar :P
(come to think of it, aside from lacking support for the newest standards, IE11 is probably less quirky than Safari :S)
These days Chrome more or less sets the standard.
Which isn't necessarily a good thing, but that's how market share works...
 
@Bob have you tried that on 11.3?
 
Bob
5:33 AM
@allquixotic not doing PWA yet, just the 'normal' fullscreen and/or bookmark
not sure which exact version it's on though
11.x for sure
will have to check tomorrow
released 3 days ago? no, not tried on 11.3 yet
PWA is a planned future update but that'll probably be at least another year
 
5:48 AM
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I GAVE YOU MY HEART
♪♫♬
BUT BABY ALL YOU DO IS GIVE ME WHAT I NEED
OOOOOOOOOOH OOOOOOOOH
YOUR TOUCH IS LIKE AH SIGNATURE
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HA! DESPOS! PROMOTING THIS TWEET!
 
6:36 AM
#snowing
 
Bob
7:12 AM
@rahuldottech are you alright?
 
 
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8:37 AM
@DavidPostill :O rly?
we've had rain here since yesterday
annd down in hove it was raining most of the weekend too
Some snow would make a nice change :D
 
@djsmiley2k Has stopped. Now just #raining #snowdidntsettle
 
 
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9:41 AM
I think @rahuldottech got replaced with a chinese spam script...
 
And as it happens you can now buy spam made in China Hormel to start making SPAM in China :)
 
9:59 AM
@JourneymanDuck Continuing on my monitor saga, now that I've actually purchased one. :) I'm trying to get it working with my laptop correctly.
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Q: Reset Windows 7 to mirror display without a working monitor?

WildcardI have a Windows 7 laptop (specifically, an hp ProBook 6470b) and a brand new Dell U2718Q UltraSharp 4K monitor. When I hooked up the monitor (using a DisplayPort cable - DP to DP, no mini-DP), it worked fine showing the low resolution of the laptop screen. The display settings of Windows 7 wer...

@Bob I got the U2718Q, as you can see in my question. :)
 
@Wildcard are you sure your laptop can even handle 4k?
 
10:17 AM
@JourneymanDuck See the question I posted. It worked perfectly on "extend displays" and only threw a fit when I chose "show desktop only on 2."
 
Now I'm just trying to get back to "extend displays" when I can't even see the option (or anything) when the monitor is plugged in, but the option doesn't seem to exist when the monitor isn't plugged in. :P
 
unfortunately I have no windows 7 boxen for testing
on windows 10 you can use win p
 
To do what, turn on mirroring?
 
switch between display modes IIRC
 
10:19 AM
I saw that shortcut associated with something about projectors. So if in 10 it does that, maybe it does in 7 too. I'll try it....
Huh, yes, the shortcut does do that.
But evidently, the display doesn't work now that I've installed the driver? (I'm guessing.) Because it still stays black.
And even if set on "laptop only," the laptop screen stays black when I plug in the DP cable.
Which it didn't do when I first plugged it in.
Oh, I'm poking around the CD browser again. Maybe I didn't install drivers. I thought I did. But now if I try to open the "monitor drivers" section of the CD browser, it just says that I have to connect the monitor before running the program.
Okay, I managed to do it blind. We'll see where that gets me.
 
10:40 AM
hmm
safe mode?
 
@JourneymanDuck Trying safe mode now.
@JourneymanDuck No luck. Added comment to question. Unless there's something else I should do in safe mode.
 
not even set it to single screen mode?
 
Windows 7 is weird about that. When you don't have an external monitor plugged in, it pretends there is no such thing as single screen mode or extended displays or whatever else.
 
10:58 AM
Have monitor drivers actually ever done anything useful?
 
hmm
hardly?
Other than maybe colour profiles I suppose
 
11:13 AM
Aye. Hardly.
Colour profiles is indeed one thing. but most people probably do not bother with that.
Max resolution/refresh might be another. But these days you ask ask the monitor for that (unlike ancient VGA)
 
I got it back to the working "extend these displays" setting. Bizarre indeed that that one works fine, but the "show only on the Dell 4K" option does not.
I posted a self-answer with the details on how I did it, anyway.
 
/me iwill check
 
If anyone knows how to get it correctly working on just the 4K monitor, i.e. "show only on 2" without using the built-in monitor—which option works perfectly at work with a 1080p Dell monitor over VGA, by the way—I would love to hear it.
Or even if anyone knows just how to diagnose that.
 
11:43 AM
I wonder, if when you disable the built in monitor, it's actually disabling the graphics card as well
 
Welp, thought I'd lost $time-amount of work due to firefox not liking GPU rendering and losing all page interface on a YT video; saved thanks to javascript console $().click()-ing the 'Publish' button
I assume it's a GPU rendering thing as the page is turning black and Fx is spamming the console with "[GFX1-]: Failed buffer for: <...>" repeatedly...
This is been your daily reminder to back up work-in-progress
 
user226528
12:17 PM
Hey, guys.
 
user226528
What's up?
 
Bob
12:32 PM
Oh my. The wikipedia article is ... painful. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bharat_Operating_System_Solutions
Why is the version history randomly bolded
 
user226528
@Bob Vandalism or accident damage by a bad editor
 
user226528
@Bob Or to be accurate, this: en.wikipedia.org/w/…
 
user226528
Actually, you click on the "Undo" link and undo it. Or not.
 
Bob
@FleetCommand The rest of the article is such a dumpster fire that I won't bother.
I've made like 5 edits to wikipedia in my life, sooo... not my thing :P
 
user226528
Eh.
 
user226528
12:38 PM
I don't advertise Wikipedia anymore.
 
user226528
I am an ex-Wikipedian. Like an ex-Wife, who is no longer a wife and has no interest in the ex-husband, I am no longer a Wikipedian and have no interest in Wikipedia.
 
1:58 PM
@Bob that's what those freebie systems that people kept wanting to change the bios boot screen on came with
 
Bob
2:21 PM
@rahuldottech ze link. she is broken.
 
Bob
> The OS mostly appears to have optimized for educational backgrounds and low-spec PCs
Implying they actually "optimised" anything past just using base Debian
which has a requirement of like 256 MB of RAM - and that's with a DE
 
@Bob Righttttt.
 
Bob
@rahuldottech I'm quoting you :P
 
I know
You raise a valid point
 
2:44 PM
By optimised they mean "slapped on new wallpaper and called it done"
 
2:54 PM
From my RL right now
 
Bob
god
ubuntu 16.04 is being incredibly unreliable right now
 
 
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Bob
4:10 PM
floof
 
@allquixotic O_O
@Bob :D
 
 
2 hours later…
6:22 PM
quack
 
meow
 
It's been so long since I've touched FFXV.
 
/me starts undertale
will stream
 
I'll need a bit to reorient myself. In Chapter 6 - the days are starting to get shorter.
 
6:55 PM
 
7:30 PM
@bwDraco hmmm
 
?
 
8:31 PM
@bwDraco I'm trying to remember whats happening at chap 16
 
6?
Well, the days shorten as you progress through the game. It's called the Starscourge. I'm not spoiling myself about the details, though.
 
Am I thinking of another game o_O
 
8:45 PM
I don't remember days shorterning
but maybe I was just having too mcuh fun
 
 
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9:54 PM
FFXV @bwDraco??
 
Yeah.
 
Oh hmmm now I see (went a googling). Tbh later in game you don't really fear the night so much
Was basically go somewhere, hide til daylight. I didn't even notice they'd wake up later etc
 
 
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Bob
11:01 PM
morn
 

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