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1:18 AM
のがれ↓る → のが↓れて(+ください, etc)
そだて↓る → そだ↓てて(+ください, etc)
はじけ↓る → はじ↓けて ...
はなれ↓る → はな↓れて
ひきい↓る → ひき↓いて
もとめ↓る → もと↓めて
たずね↓る → たず↓ねて
なのに
たすけ↓る → たすけ↓て(+ください, etc)
???
なんで?
 
 
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3:40 AM
@Chocolate このuncertaintyって言うことがguessって言うことと同じみたいですね。教えてくれてありがとう^ - ^
 
3:51 AM
@Chocolate In Tokyo Japanese I believe たすける is different from all of your other examples in that the 2nd mora す is devoiced, which makes it difficult for the accent to shift to it
 
おお・・ 「す」が無音化するから
こんなんあった
> ◎◎〜て       LH〜L
(一段: accent comes one mora earlier)
⇨ ◎◎〜◎\◎て LH〜H〜LL
⇨ たべ\る   た\べて
⇨ み\る    み\て
⇨ あつめ\る  あつ\めて
(例外: when the accent would fall on a 無声化した母音 (voiceless vowel), it doesn't move)
⇨ つけ\る   つけ\て
⇨ たすけ\る  たすけ\て (note that when calling for help this is flat: たすけてー)
(例外: when the accent would fall on a ん, it moves one more back)
⇨ ぞんじ\る   ぞ\んじて
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「つける」の「つ」が無音化するから、アクセントは「つ」じゃなくて「け」に変わるんね
「たすけて」の「す」が無音化するから、アクセントは「す」じゃなくて「け」に
@snailplane わかった^^
@snailplane Why don't you post an answer? ^^
私は今から出かけるから~
ノシ
 
 
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5:24 AM
@Chocolate Holy crap, this is an awesome resource.
 
5:44 AM
Were it not for cvoret's question, I would've always believed that 助けて was [0] (LHHH). I came across this version of 助けてください on Forvo, sharing it here for the sake of variety since I cannot yet comment on the said post: forvo.com/word/…
 
 
4 hours later…
10:01 AM
Hey guys !
I ve been learning japanese for about 6months now
quiet a challenge ;)
 
 
2 hours later…
11:36 AM
@Kuma Hi
 
hey
 
welcome to the chat! (even though I'm not among the most active members here)
 
thank you
alright
I ve learned Hiragana,Katakana and about 20 kanjis so far
also about 200 words
but its taking quiet some time..
 
 
1 hour later…
12:59 PM
Learning kanji is quite a task, I personally learned most gramar without kanji... Now i'm struggling to study it
All the kanji I knew was by chatting online
 
I see
 

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