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12:10 AM
@JourneymanGeek Me too
 
12:32 AM
I've never seen a router that does this - but I've seen a ton of abg adaptors
Its with N that 5ghz support felt rarer
 
> ooooo
 
I was trying to get started on building a webapp, but spent almost 6 hours trying to get Vagrant running properly, with Laravel. Tried about 6 different tutorials offering step-by-step help
Gave up, using MS Access now
 
 
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Bob
1:44 AM
o.O
what's with the downvotes here? superuser.com/questions/1289626/…
it doesn't look that bad...
 
 
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Bob
3:06 AM
I tried to upvote twice but all it did was cancel my upvote. So I upvoted 3 times. — Harper 4 hours ago
 
 
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Bob
4:46 AM
@allquixotic hetzner.com/cloud
 
5:30 AM
@Bob current season of RWBY ended ;p
second last episode was awesome
 
Bob
5:47 AM
@JourneymanGeek I never did get around to watching it :S
 
 
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7:14 AM
Someday I want to be someone highly respected in the industry, like Brian Krebs of Krebs on Security.
Very few people can get to this point, but it's my philosophy that everyone has the ability to do great things...
Hints?
...I guess the biggest issue is that I'm not motivated enough to do the projects, learning, and work I really want to do.
I have to put my heart into actually following my passion, and not waste my time doing useless things.
Like the other regulars here with their dedicated servers, ZFS, containers, and other projects - and they have full-time jobs.
There is absolutely no excuse for me to be wasting time doing meaningless things when I could be working on the same sorts of projects, learning JavaScript/PowerShell/Docker/LXD/ZFS/whatever while simultaneously meeting all of my personal and professional obligations.
I need to beef up my willpower so I can stay focused and productive and get more done every day.
/rant
lol
 
7:50 AM
good morning
haha, I have been fine doing just normal things and enjoying myself. I stopped wanting to chase fame and what not.
 
:p
 
8:16 AM
Yay, 90% done a project! I feel like bed now, have a good one guys!
 
8:50 AM
If my screen suddenly goes black and the PC crashes, it's probably a GPU thing, right?
I'm also experiencing a lot of lag
@allquixotic nup, mum and sis went to
mum was doing some sort of a course there
 
@bwDraco technically, my dedi is a useless thing
It makes me no money. Unless I run into the exactly right kind of interviewer, Its probably not marketable. The benefit of it is entirely intangible. Its a "nice thing"
 
Bob
9:06 AM
@rahuldottech it could be anything, really. what kind of crash?
hard power off?
check event logs, "System" section, for the last messages before the kernel unexpected power loss error
also check memory dumps (BlueScreenView will give you a quick list, so you can see if there was one, but if you want the actual responsible driver you'd need to windbg it)
 
ugh, there ought to be a way to filter searches on twitter by a specific user.
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek it's fun
*looks at list of assorted VPSes and servers*
 
@Bob exactly
 
Bob
and tbh even though it's not really marketable or part of my job desc, a lot of my fiddling has let me help colleagues with general win/linux issues (desktop and server)
that's a good thing :P
@JourneymanGeek I still haven't figured out how you search for tweets toward a particular user
 
nvlddmkm.sys is a NVIDIA thingy
 
Bob
9:18 AM
@rahuldottech yeaaaaa... usually BSV's driver id is inaccurate but this time it's quite possible
10e is VIDEO_MEMORY_MANAGEMENT_INTERNAL
did you install any updates recently?
also, what version of the nvidia drivers are you running? try either updating to latest or rolling back a few
 
@Bob Just created install media using the official tool yesterday and installed win10
 
Bob
o.O
 
Device Manager reports that they're running the latest drivers
 
Bob
@rahuldottech what was on the machine before?
@rahuldottech check the version and compare with nvidia website, don't use device manager for graphics drivers
 
@Bob win10, but I think it got interrupted during an update or something, because everything broke
 
Bob
9:20 AM
@rahuldottech upgrade install or clean install?
 
@Bob clean
 
Bob
it's probably not a hardware issue if it just coincides with an OS reinstall
smells like drivers :P
 
@Bob Yeah, except that I was getting lots of crashes and lags with what appeared to be disk issues so I scanned and fixed disk errors and then reinstalled
15 hours ago, by rahuldottech
Nothing was working, random directories required admin access (Desktop, Downloads), Recycle Bin got corrupted
Except now something else entirely is happening
 
Bob
@rahuldottech erm... if it's hardware disk issues you can't really "fix" them
it's like patching over a pothole with paper
 
@Bob Well, whatever windows said it was doing with the disk
 
Bob
9:23 AM
:\
 
chkdsk doesn't get any errors now
So... idk
 
Bob
@rahuldottech so what driver version are you running?
 
20.19.15.4531 for Intel graphics 4600;
21.21.13.7654 for NVIDIA GeForce 800M
 
@Bob What Device Manager reports ^
 
Bob
9:25 AM
@rahuldottech check nvidia control panel
the devmgmt one is ... different :P
 
@Bob 0_0 I don't have it
 
Bob
...
what
 
@Bob it's... not in the start menu
Or in the context menu
 
Bob
@rahuldottech check in add/remove programs
 
ok wait what is going on
Found it
But... why isn't it in the start menu?
@Bob Driver Version: 376.54
 
Bob
9:28 AM
@rahuldottech yea that's waaaaaaaaaaaaay outdated
390.65 seems to be the current WHQL driver for an 860M
 
WTF NVIDIA
 
Bob
@rahuldottech don't bother with the auto-scan
just pick your GPU from the dropdowns
 
@Bob Yeah, did so
 
Bob
bbiab
 
user226528
10:16 AM
I think Java is trying to tell you something.
 
user226528
;)
 
10:29 AM
(Un)fortunately, my relationship with Java is long over. It is indeed a fact that there was a time when life without her as a young teen was just so unthinkable.
But she just chose to be stubborn and refused to make any significant changes to who she was as time passed on and yet each day she would alert me to a new mood swing or change in flavor and the transition would take ages and require us to start over, ughh.
I was, in a way, forced by her to move on. And now any of her attempts to reenter my life will only be met with sad smiles and polite denials. I look back at her fondly, but she
@FleetCommand ^
She made me insecure, vulnerable. Honestly, the disadvantages outweighed any positives so heavily but I was just so blinded by what everyone around me thought and said. Took me a while to realize that I deserved so much better, but when I did, I went out there and got it. And I am now in a happy and stable long-term relationship with my new partner
 
@rahuldottech python? ;p
 
user226528
Hmm... One might assume you're talking about a lady instead of a software platform, given your history.
 
@JourneymanGeek I was talking about Java as a web technology, and my new partner is HTML5.
 
java is backend tho
HTML5 is frontend
 
@FleetCommand That was the intention
@JourneymanGeek It was also a plug-in
Which is what the website was asking me to install
 
user226528
10:36 AM
@JourneymanGeek I am looking at the list of starred messages and I could swear there are several items missing.
 
user226528
What gives?
 
user226528
@JourneymanGeek Is there a criteria that makes a starred message not show up?
 
@FleetCommand nope
Unless someone cancelled the stars
 
user226528
@JourneymanGeek I understand that cancellation must take place within 2 minutes, right? Hence, I don't think so.
 
How can I have pinned the message?
 
10:46 AM
Oo
 
Also, it doesn't show up on the star wall >>>
?????
I'm not a room owner, am I?
 
Oo. Lemme check it when I get home. Emergency plumbing run.
@rahuldottech no
 
@JourneymanGeek yeah. weird.
 
A few observations regarding this XKCD strip:
1. The title is (potentially) a major pun
2. What if the dude was editing and not reading the article?
3. Sadly, if true, that committed handywork (geddit?) would be removed since it would be against the No Original Content policy of the site
4. (Speaking from experience) teenage wikipedia editors/geeks don't get a lot of opportunities for foreplay
5. (May or may not be speaking from experience) Wikipedia isn't really the best place to get a how-to tutorial on foreplay
6. I am an idiot because I should be studying right now, not doing whatever it is that I'm doing by making all these observations
7. I wish I had a girlfriend that patient
8. Or maybe just a girlfriend. That would work too.
 
11:11 AM
@rahuldottech there's probably people who have done that
 
@rahuldottech I thought you have a girlfriend?
 
@DavidPostill Nah, been single since mid-october
I did meet someone
But doesn't look like dating is in the picture for a couple of months
idkkkk
i had a long talk. with my fren. about how to spot. a fake ball throw. the optimal strategy. is to follow the ball. with your eyes. instead of your heart
 
12:06 PM
}>-<{
_\'/_
 
@rahuldottech Is that you wearing headphones or something?
 
@DavidPostill Nah, me weight lifting while doing a split :P
 
How's the thumb today?
 
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12:15 PM
@bertieb Better - but still painful. Bandage off so I can use move my trackball properly. It's still sore on the tip of my thumb (just below the nail) where I removed a small slice ...
 
@DavidPostill Ouch, wait, what happened?
 
Ah, will be for a few days. I did a similar thing quite recently!
 
^^^ Me doing a pull-up
 
Hope it heals quickly; even when it's not painful++ it's still irritating
 
18 hours ago, by DavidPostill
So I'm going to chop stuff for salad and I sharpen the knife. And of course then I slice a bit off my thumb. And it wont stop bleeding ... :/ 10 minutes later I have a dressing on my thumb - but it makes using my trackball a bit difficult ... :/
 
12:17 PM
@DavidPostill oww, get well soon
 
It doesn't hurt anymore (unless I touch the wound and even then not much) so that's OK ;)
 
which thumb do you use for space bar?
 
I think I sliced off the top couple of layers of skin and not the flesh underneath ...
@jokerdino Both (mostly left), but that's the side of my thumb and not the tip ... and it's the right thumb that's injured.
 
@DavidPostill That's what you get for eating salad
 
^^ you don't win friends with salad
 
12:34 PM
It's really no big deal. The only annoying thing was that bandage slipped on the trackball which completely screwed accurate cursor positioning.
 
1:01 PM
human flavoured salad
 
@Burgi Yeah, I'm a self cannibal. But I don't chew my fingernails like most many people do ...
 
@DavidPostill i've heard about that place
there is a similar island off the coast of canada
and i think there is one at the border of germany, austria and switzerland
 
O_O
> Armed intruders force man to transfer cyber currency in raid at TV Midsomer village home
 
2:00 PM
> Subcription pricing or pay with your CPU
0_0
Thoughts?
(cc @Bob @allquixotic)
 
2:11 PM
what does pay with your CPU mean?
and... seach and replace coming soon?
 
@Bob Hmm...
I've run servers on Linode for several years and while it's enabled me to do fun stuff like run a Linux desktop in the cloud, it hasn't really proven to be a particularly marketable skill, either.
(though I am currently doing a SmokeDetector instance on one of these servers)
 
Bob
2:39 PM
@rahuldottech orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr I could use one of the many excellent editors (*cough*vscode*cough*) and not pay with anything
 
@Bob No, I wanted to know your thoughts on using mining as a payment model
 
Bob
!!tell 42537737 no
 
Bob
that about sums it up
it's even worse if you're on a laptop
 
@Bob *cough*
lol
 
2:41 PM
@Bob why so?
 
Bob
this thing's got to be a joke
> Code printing
... ... ...
ooh. you can print your code. how special.
 
Seems reasonable to me, since I cannot really make online payments
 
Bob
@rahuldottech electricity isn't cheap, either. especially with cpu mining being inefficient. and that's ignoring the other huge !!no factors
 
@Bob But what about using mining to pay to use a decent and reasonable service?
 
Bob
e.g. I'd rather my machine be doing useful work
I'd rather my battery last longer than half an hour
I'd rather my room not resemble a sauna
 
2:43 PM
@Bob Yeah, but... say I had access to large number of computers which remain on all the time and are powered via solar panels
 
Bob
@rahuldottech I've probably spent >$500 specifically to make my machine more efficient and quieter
and you're proposing... running what's effectively a power virus
 
(I actually do have access to that)
 
@Bob Agreed - my desktop already makes my room get very hot very quickly.
 
Bob
@rahuldottech in that case, if you really wanted to go into this whole mining thing, you'd do it on a GPU (because CPU mining is dumb and a waste of power) and you'd go mine directly for yourself, not to pay for some ridiculous subscription
I ran the calcs the other day, btw
 
2:45 PM
"There's something that looks like a pump here" "erm, dad... its soviet." "Oh... why do we have a carbarator from our old lada here?" "erm, dad, I didn't even know we removed it"
we threw it out by the way but.... 0_0
 
If you're looking into mining, ask @allq. He has some experience mining Ether on GPUs.
 
@Bob If I have access to about 50 computers with i5s and 4 gigs of ram, but integrated GPU, could I make any reasonable money?
 
@rahuldottech probably not
 
Bob
assuming 8 hours of solar power on a GTX 1080 I think it came out at a max of like $2/day
 
unless someone else is paying for power
 
Bob
2:46 PM
assuming it was a cloudy day, I'd instead be spending money on power
 
@JourneymanGeek school has solar panels
So no real payment involved
 
@rahuldottech Please don't use corporate PCs to do this.
 
s/corporate/school ...
 
@bwDraco Just wondering
 
cause dude, getting kicked out of school would suck ;p
 
2:47 PM
Not actually going to do anything without permission
Although
To be fair
 
Bob
mining literally wouldn't pay for lunch
 
He's a sysadmin AIUI, and a school is a specific kind of corporate IT environment.
Well, for certain values of "corporate"...
 
I have access to school computers during non-working hours for render jobs in any case
 
Bob
hmmm
28 deg C ambient
CPU idles around 40
GPU idles around 50
GPU idles around 60 if I turn on shadowplay instant replay
 
I just used a thumbscrew from a 1998 PC on a new PC and idk if there's a standard for PC case screws but this makes me so happy
 
Bob
2:54 PM
wait no, dropping below 50 now
45 now
 
@rahuldottech they're standard
#6-32 UNC screw
as opposed to the m3 you find on smaller things
 
They are standardized. I simply reused the existing case screws to attach the Noctua fans to my case.
(replacing Corsair AF140L with NF-A14 PWM fans for intake because I got tired of the turbulence noise)
 
@Bob :-o
 
@JourneymanGeek OH THANK GOD
I LOVE STANDARDS
 
I dunno how much mining difficulty has changed but back when Ethereum was $300 mining on my laptop 1070 was electricity profitable, and now its over $1000
 
3:00 PM
STANDARDIZE EVERYTHING
 
@rahuldottech Apple doesn't.
 
You do need to be careful about this.
!!/standards
 
@bwDraco WELL
THIS ONE STANDARD
MAKES ME SO HAPPYYYYY
 
Bob
@FMLCat I might have to rerun my calcs but AU apparently has the highest electricity prices in the world, soooo
 
3:01 PM
They practically design a new screw for every new device they make just to deliberately unstandardize it
@Bob ouch. What do you pay per kWh?
 
@FMLCat screw 'em
 
Bob
@FMLCat IIRC something like 0.15 off-peak but 0.4 peak
daytime's pretty much all peak - I ran that calc with the assumption of PC staying on while solar panels produced almost nothing during day time
@FMLCat 0.55 peak now -_-
there was a huge hike last year
went up 20% pretty much nationwide
0.32 if it's single-rate (no time-of-use)
hm... running the calcs again I could maybe make 0.5/8h at peak times. obv off-peak is better... maybe 4/day if run 24h
@JourneymanGeek your favourite OS: superuser.com/questions/1226630/…
 
@Bob that's not all that bad.
UK prices last I checked were around £0.13 to 0
£0.17 per kWh, flat rate.
Generally most people don't have peak/off peak rates.
 
Bob
@FMLCat yea, but I'm on a time-of-use meter so 0.55 and 0.15 are the numbers I'm working with
and something like 0.3 during shoulder hours
 
Which equates to 0.26 to 0.34 AUD if the exchange rate is still around 2:1?
 
Bob
3:11 PM
off-peak is something like 8pm to 6am
@FMLCat 1.75 now
 
@Bob 0.15 AUD is ridiculously cheap, we can't get it that cheap off peak even if we used timed/smart meters
 
Bob
@FMLCat idk, I was going off afr.com/news/…
 
At $300 Ethereum and £0.15 per kWh electricity I found mining to be profitable. But again I think difficulty has changed so I need to recheck
@Bob urgh paywall
 
Bob
@FMLCat I used a pool mining calculator and plugged in the 1080's hashrate to get my original $2 without considering power
I think that was $2/8h
@FMLCat ah, not paywalled for AU I guess
yay, can at least pull the chart
looks like it's actually supposed to be 0.39 here
 
Bob
3:14 PM
dunno where I got 0.32 from, maybe pre-tax
@FMLCat ^ :P
 
Lol yeah its ten seconds delayed or something. Evidently UK prices are relatively high already but still a little below Au
 
Bob
@FMLCat yea, another place said we're competing with denmark and germany so it looks about right
it's not a competition I want to win
that said SA does skew the numbers a bit
SA's basically screwed
rolling blackouts and all
NSW's generally alright
 
I'm guesstimating numbers for a 1080 there in that second one
 
@Bob any gov incentives for home solar?
 
Bob
@bertieb been a rebate for a few years
we just installed some two months ago
20 panels for 5kW
 
3:19 PM
Sounds not bad- backed by any storage?
Or is that still a product of Elon Musk's fevered dreams?
 
Bob
@bertieb nah, sell back to grid for 0.12 and absorbs most peak time usage (at 0.55)
 
Ah fair enough so
 
Bob
@bertieb cost around $5k for the panels + inverter, iirc. storage would've doubled that
 
@bertieb yeah, ridiculously overpriced everything else :-D
 
Bob
so we decided storage wasn't really worth it. at least until power gets cheaper
the tesla powerwall was still the best option though :P
 
3:20 PM
@Bob That's not bad- when do you estimate the return will 'pay it off' ?
@FMLCat Quite so!
 
Bob
@bertieb around 5-6 years assuming prices don't change
 
Sounds not a bad deal all round
Not quite a no-brainer but attractive
 
Bob
yea, especially after the recent hikes. a good time to get solar installed
rebates aren't as good as they were a few years ago
 
@Bob hmm.
Wouldn't it be the opposite?
 
Bob
@FMLCat hm?
 
3:22 PM
As in storage increases the amount of $0.55 usage you can absorb so the more it cost the more your savings?
 
Bob
@FMLCat well, the 0.55 peak is timed almost perfectly with daytime, which is when the panels are producing
so we can use it directly off the panels
storage would mostly be for use during 0.3 shoulder and 0.15 off-peak
 
Well you said it absorbed most, so presumably not all?
 
Bob
@FMLCat cloudy days
 
So, storage! :-D
 
Bob
lol, true
we did consider it but I think it didn't end up saving all that much
and storage is something we can always add later, sooo
here's hoping Li-ion prices drop in the next few years?
(...they'll probably rise, with cars and all)
 
3:25 PM
Ah, once that gigafactory comes online they'll surely drop :P
Well, fully-online
 
Bob
@FMLCat storage would probably also help more with winter, I think
peak times are the same but fewer daylight hours
but even that wasn't enough to make the extra $5k worth it
 
@Bob salt water battery!
@Bob but having a ton of epic batteries?
 
Bob
@FMLCat pumped storage? :P
 
@FMLCat About AU$0.25 here.
 
Which you can rip off the wall and shove into a car with an electric motor if you felt sadistic
 
Bob
3:28 PM
@FMLCat I think that was actually considered a negative... y'know, having to find a place near the panel to put a ton of batteries?
@bwDraco electricity is cheap in the US
as is petrol
 
Yeah, and this is New York City, where electricity is normally far more expensive than most of the country.
Lack of power stations or of cheap ways to generate power, I suppose?
 
@Bob but you have a house!
 
Bob
gonna go try to sleep (30 deg C @ 80% rel humid)... probably back in a bit :P
 
As for solar, both state and federal governments have incentives and we're seeing solar panels more and more often.
 
@Bob GPU issue seems to be fixed, so thanks :)
 
3:44 PM
@Bob lol. I've resorted to heating my room to 25'c to sleep because my duvet is too effective.
 
i.... what?
 
I can do that too!
 
cept I didn't have spaces.
It was just the x, but left here for hours
So I wonder how much it costs the energy company, to keep begging me to take a meter reading
because now, it's going to cost them £50 to install a smart meter
(presuming the install and equipment is free)
 
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