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9:00 PM
I'm not saying you need someone else, but it's not an either/or decision
@Blue Heh, fair enough
 
Awwww, it's been a long time!
 
Anonymous
@0celo7 lol...nice place to rest
 
I don’t actually have any GR books with me
 
get the particle data group booklet
 
9:03 PM
@Blue For cats to be indignant that you woke them up, they of course must sleep where you will wake them up ;)
 
it has a GR section and holds in a pocket
 
@Cows That just makes it even better, right? ;)
 
@Mithrandir24601 absolutely :D , get that money bro :D .
I'm with you on that
 
9:54 PM
@ACuriousMind notation for Euclidean metric?
$\mathfrak e$ is probably disallowed
the french use $\mathcal E$ but that's disgusting
 
$g_e$?
Although I guess that might be confused with indices
$h$
 
10:17 PM
Test tomorrow followed by a full day of labs
If that isn't torture idk what is
 
@Phase getting your legs broken with big mallets
 
Preferable to labs
In fact, if I had my legs broken with big mallets not only could I get a sick wheelchair and get cool wheels for it, I wouldn't have to go to any Labs because I'd be phobic of the mallets they use to measure weight
 
@Phase I once had to do a lab about measuring the rotation frequency of a coloured top with a stroboscope while being terribly hungover. Now that was torture :P
 
Did you have an epileptic fit @ACuriousMind ?
 
No, just a terrible headache and it took all my self-control not to vomit :P
(To be clear, being hungover was not part of the lab instructions...)
 
10:23 PM
sounds like a boring uni
[step 1: assess the error in your life]
[step 2: propagate that error by drinking excessively]
 
@ACuriousMind hola
 
@ACuriousMind Nope. The weeks just before and the week of my final bachelor exams. I think I broke my brain or something
 
ahoi
 
Finally got internet in my new place
woop-dee-doop
 
Ah, you're in Hamburg now, right?
 
10:25 PM
Oh, I see you sold out :D
Yes
Congrats
 
@Danu lol, yes, I did
 
It's a sad thing that we lost you :(
 
@ACuriousMind are you gonna change your mind to "AnEmployedMind"? : P
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to contrast the rest of academia
 
lel
@ACuriousMind what'd you recommend for someone like me to learn algebraic geometry from?
 
@Danu Eh, I'm really not convinced I'd have been as great at research as everyone else seems to think :P Anyway, I'll not leave physics.SE any time soon, at least, so there's that :)
@Phase Heh. I'll consider it :P
@Danu Uhhhhhhhhh...I don't think I have anything I liked learning it from.
Hartshorne is good, I guess, but it's not very fun
 
10:29 PM
@ACuriousMind I don't know, but I think it was well worth a shot.
@ACuriousMind :(
 
@ACuriousMind The trouble I find is that there's research in the amateur sense and research in the professional sense. In the sense of teaching/learning/discovering, I love research. But making a career out of it...that's different.
 
Ah, I see Emilio has gotten you to read Lego Grad student, eh? :D
 
He suggested it a few days ago and I've been enjoying it : P if feeling a little scared about whether they're true or not
 
They seem pretty accurate
If you put the experiences of say 10 PhD students together you can find most of these happening.
 
10:39 PM
rip
 
The phrasing is of course particularly dramatic
 
@Semiclassical Yeah, all too true
 
I've resisted looking at them yet.
both because of not wanting to get a new distraction, and because I've got enough existential dread as a grad student
 
11:01 PM
\o @Danu
 
@Semiclassical "Comforting a friend that feels woefully inadequate, the grad student feels woefully inadequate." ...
 
like i said, i've got enough existential dread already without needing lego depictions thereof :P
 
Apparently I just passed out on the couch for two hours
Thanksgiving food comas are real
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welcome back
 
@Semiclassical ... It appears that my woefully inadequate attempt to comfort you by showing that it's not just you with existential dread was... Woefully inadequate
 
11:15 PM
lol
 
\o @BernardoMeurer
 
vzn
lol "lego depictions of existential dread" o_O
 
@skullpatrol Heya
 
tbf, I haven't looked at Lego Grad Student yet
but even just the sample I saw seemed to point pretty clearly in that direction
 
vzn
idly googling those terms (nothing better to do around here!) gives me this article "Lego Batman Finds the Funny In Existential Angst" time.com/4665019/the-lego-batman-movie-review
 
11:21 PM
yesterday, by Phase
user image
also this old message
Dec 7 '16 at 0:03, by ACuriousMind
I still can't tell whether Lego Grad Student is dark humor or just depressing.
 
vzn
which reminds me, has anyone seen the new ninjago movie? could use a geek review imdb.com/title/tt3014284 saw pixar coco in 3d yesterday, liked it :) imdb.com/title/tt2380307
@Mithrandir24601 spking of existential dread o_O
[Updated] The proposed GOP tax bill would slam grad students and schools by taxing tuition waivers. Learn more: https://bcide.gitlab.io/post/gop-tax-plan/
 
yeah.
there was a meeting of grad students on campus here on tuesday evening about it
 
vzn
had a bad feeling this admin was nearly full-out antiscience... suspect it could even get worse vzn1.wordpress.com/2017/02/06/…
 
I talked with our DGS and our department head about it.
 
vzn
@Semiclassical spking of distractions, do you plan to finish your phd or is that too touchy a subj?
 
11:35 PM
I do.
And this does put more weight behind that.
 
vzn
@Semiclassical so then (attn: great advice) better stop spending free time in here :P
 
lol
Our DGS's response was basically that the house proposal isn't the last word on this, so we shouldn't be too alarmed yet; and, if it does pass, in all likelihood they'd just end up increasing grad student salaries. So he was pretty sanguine about it.
Our department head was quite a bit less so.
 
vzn
@Semiclassical so you are bored enough yet to hear about a revolutionary qm + fluid dynamics finding, 2016? one might say it could be highly related to your research interests... just found it less than few hrs ago
 
ehh
I'll read a preprint, if you've got one
 
@Semiclassical ...implying they have money lying around to pay grad students more but currently just don't use it? :P
 
11:38 PM
@ACuriousMind lol
 
vzn
=D halleluja someone willing to discuss qm/ science ok 1s
 
@ACuriousMind that's the commie in you, implying grad students deserve more
 
yeah, that seems like the fly in that ointment
There was also the Forbes article which suggested that they could just do scholarships instead of tuition waivers
but my understanding was that that would require decoupling "working for the university" from "getting funding for grad school"
 
@Semiclassical Yeah. I'm not really freaked out right now.
 
well, uh
 
11:40 PM
@0celo7 The commie in me doesn't accept the idea of people having to "deserve" a decent living :P
 
you're not in grad school yet
 
@Semiclassical I will be
 
it's a lot easier to be sanguine about it when you're not in the crosshairs yet
 
It's the opposite
You're almost done, I'm stuck with whatever they pass for many years
 
tbf, i am pretty well-insulated from it
i'm near the end of the program either way, i'm an in-state resident so (I think?) my tuition is already lower, and i live with my parents so food/rent is not really as big a problem
the people I really worry about aren't so much those at the start of grad school, though, as much as those who are midstream right now
 
11:43 PM
I'll be out-of-state at my currently school or going to a private school
@Semiclassical wat
 
more sunk costs for the latter.
 
vzn
arg summoned back to family table for dessert o_O
 
to put it a little differently, I'm more worried about the people who will have to drop out of grad school than I am about the people who won't be able to start in the first place.
 
Will states like New York add an income tax exemption for students?
 
no idea
 
11:47 PM
@0celo7 You could always come to Europe...
 
which is frustrating. there's just not a lot of clarity
 
@Mithrandir24601 He won't, we're all filthy hippies to him :P
 
which I understand, to a certain extent. it's not at all clear what the senate bill will look like, to say nothing of whatever final bill comes out between them
 
vzn
@Semiclassical Schroedinger vs. Navier–Stokes / de Cordoba mdpi.com/1099-4300/18/1/34
 
so right now it's very hard to even say what the tax bill will do, let alone how states/unis will respond to it
 
11:50 PM
@ACuriousMind Well... It was worth a try :P
 
@Mithrandir24601 Sadly ACM is probably right.
 
@vzn preprint version here: arxiv.org/abs/1409.7036
 
I can't stand any place with a liberal density higher than 25%.
 
vzn
> Quantum mechanics has been argued to be a coarse-graining of some underlying deterministic theory. Here we support this view by establishing a map between certain solutions of the Schroedinger equation, and the corresponding solutions of the irrotational Navier–Stokes equation for viscous fluid flow.
 
/s
 
vzn
11:50 PM
> As a physical model for the fluid itself we propose the quantum probability fluid. It turns out that the (state-dependent) viscosity of this fluid is proportional to Planck’s constant, while the volume density of entropy is proportional to Boltzmann’s constant. o_O
 
@0celo7 You'll be fine in many parts of England then. Not many other places mind :P
 
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."
 
@Semiclassical So somehow I'm now organizing a seminar.
 
vzn
@Semiclassical lol typical. how about math derivations/ proofs? :P
 
And giving two talks on some very new papers
I need a salary
 
11:52 PM
What especially makes me raise my eyebrows is that the only citations of that preprint on NASA ADS are from the authors themselves.
A closed system bodes ill when it comes to papers like that.
@0celo7 "Guest lecturer."
 
I must say the seminar attendance at my school is abysmal.
There are zero undergraduates at any of the seminars or colloquia besides me.
And like one or two grad students.
 
We have 90 grad students, where the hell are they? Where is their interest?
@Semiclassical bleh?
 
vzn
@Semiclassical extraordinary (new) truths take extraordinary time/ effort to accept/ verify. am skimming paper, dont see immediate red flags. it cites madelung formulation which is undergoing increasing attn/ scrutiny/ resurgence lately.
 
@0celo7 as in, that's disappointing
 
11:55 PM
@0celo7 It's really hard to go to colloquia when the two colloquia per week are when you've got other things on and the main seminar involves pizza, which I can't eat, so going to them just makes me sad :(
 
@Semiclassical one of the PDE guys encourages his students to go to talks so they show up for the PDE seminar and the colloquium
@Mithrandir24601 why can't you eat pizza?
 
@0celo7 Cheese. I can't even stand in the vicinity of pizza without getting hives :(
 
I think the numerical methods seminar is well-attended.
The algebraists don't even advertise their seminar which is damn strange.
@Mithrandir24601 No offense but I have this (possibly insane) idea that lactose intolerance is a weakness of the mind. Have you tried exposure therapy?
 
@0celo7 I wish it was lactose intolerance
 
11:58 PM
What on Earth is it then
 
I can't tell if you're being a troll or serious.
 

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