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12:01 AM
Yup @PVAL
I don't think I'll be able to go to Austin during these few weeks but I'll be a few hours north
 
 
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1:27 AM
Hey guys
 
1:40 AM
Bye guys
:P
 
2:34 AM
So I put up a bounty on a question, but it didn't get any answers. Supposedly I still have 10 hours remaining to award the bounty to an answer.
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Q: Small powers of small numbers: Is there really a pattern or am I just used to looking for them?

MackTuesdayThis probably is just a coincidence, but I've always found it interesting and I wanted to put some feelers out there to see if maybe there really is something to it after all. There are these collections of powers, and in one case a sum of powers in two different ways, that have similar digits t...

Of course, there are no answers to award the bounty to, so do I really have any decisions to make here?
It seems like the bounty will just go unawarded and there's nothing I can do.
 
3:26 AM
I think one thing I will try to ensure it is not really a statistical fluke is to see if similar phenomenon arises in other number bases, and if there is, grab an arbitrary base $b$ to see how digits in $b$ changes in these expressions
O wait nvm, you already done that
 
4:09 AM
o
 
 
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5:59 AM
[Chemistry]
There are 20 calculations with singular hessians. Taking account of the molecule structures, it seems there are way too many potential undulation minimas than reasonable, thus I am suspecting instead some numerical error stuff going and is investigating it with the technical support
 
Guys Im having trouble rembering something. It had to do with definite integrals of sine and cosine being 0 for all values up until 15 then the pattern stops and the integral is posivtive. Anyone herd of something like that.
 
what do you mean by 15, something like this? $\int_0^{15}\sin x dx$?
 
Borwein integral
 
6:43 AM
Is there a Fourier type basis for the functions space $L^2(\mathbb{R}^2)$? I know the fourier series is a basis for functions restricted to the unit circle in R^2, but what about the entire space itself?
 
7:37 AM
hii
 
 
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8:53 AM
[Random]
 
Hi.
Can $\left |\dfrac{z-1}{z^2-i}\right|$ be reduced?
 
"reduced" ?
 
I have this: $\left |\dfrac{z^4+2z}{z^4+1} - 1 \right| = \left |\dfrac{2z-1}{z^4+1}\right | \leq \left |\dfrac{z-1}{z^4+1}\right | \leq \left |\dfrac{z-1}{z^2-i}\right | $
I meant simplified.
 
Given that the numerator and denominator don't share any roots, I'd say no.
 
I have to prove $\displaystyle \lim_{z\to \infty} \dfrac{z^4+2z}{z^4+1} = 1$
 
9:02 AM
I also have serious doubts on those inequalities
 
which one
 
The first one, for starters, probably fails for $z = -1$
 
I used $|2z-1| \leq |z-1|$
right
 
Anyway, I'm suspecting what you want to calculate is $\lim_{|z| \to \infty}$, not $z \to \infty$ (which doesn't make sense)
 
Uhm so it should be $\left |\dfrac{z^4+2z}{z^4+1} - 1 \right| = \left |\dfrac{2z-1}{z^4+1}\right | \leq \left |\dfrac{2z-1}{z^2-i}\right |$
Yeah.
but in the exercise it doesn't say $|z|$, only $z$.
 
9:05 AM
Why not use some rules for limits of quotients?
 
Then that exercise is pretty wrong
 
Yeah, I know.
They missed that $|·|$.
 
I'd rewrite $z^4 + 2z$ as $z^4 + 1 - 1 + 2z$
Then you get $\frac{z^4 + 1}{z^4 + 1} + \frac{-1 + 2z}{z^4 + 1}$
The first term is $1$, and then prove that the modulus of the second term goes to $0$ as $|z| \to \infty$
Which is basically what you have
 
yeah xD
 
But, rather than try to go from $z^4 + 1$ to a $z^2 - i$ somehow (which is, again, very likely to be wrong)
Just use triangle inequalities
 
9:09 AM
$z^4+1 = (z^2+i)(z^2-i)$
that is what I used
 
But why would you use that?
 
Dunno, to see if i would get something
 
$|z^4 + 1| \geq |z^4| - 1$ for $|z|$ large enough.
and $|2z - 1| \leq |2z| + 1$
 
@SteamyRoot is not for all $|z|$?
Since $|z^4+1| + 1 \geq |z^4|$
 
Oh, right. Sure.
 
9:20 AM
We knew that gears and cogs can fit together under a variety of orientations, types and sizes. But what about the topology of a configuration of cogs. For example, it is known that an odd number of cogs will frustrate and thus no rotation can occur while an even number of cogs can rotate. Is there some kind of mathematical notion that governs this property of cogs?
For example, the phenomenon demonstrated here:
Is there a mathematical notion that captures and generalise this property of gears?
 
10:14 AM
Hi @Akiva
 
10:38 AM
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10:49 AM
@TedShifrin a bit of progress. I thought about the example I had before (in "quaternionic notation"), $\ell=\langle (I,0)+i(J,0)\rangle$, $D=\ell\oplus \langle (0,1)+i(0,K) \rangle=\ell\oplus q$. Following the suggestion of anon & Mike, I starting thinking: What about we try to change $\ell$ (not q). A tiny bit of octonionic algebra seems to indicate that if we are looking for$\ell=e_m+ie_n$, the only options are $m=1,n=2$ or $m=6,n=5$ (so $\ell=\langle (0,J)+i(0,I)\rangle$ is the second option)
Now I want to say that I can in fact pick $\ell$ to be any ray in the complex 2-plane $\langle (I,0)+i(J,0)\rangle\oplus \langle (0,J),+i(0,I)\rangle$, sweeping out a copy of $\Bbb CP^1$, and giving me the fiber over the line $q$, which we regard as an element of the quadric $Q_5$
This might still be nonsense :P If you want a more detailed story please let me know.
 
if $a,b>0$ and $a>b$ is true that $a^3 +\dfrac{1}{a}\geq b^3 + \dfrac{1}{b}$?
 
no in general, pick any $a>b$ such that b is near the asymptote, then you have many cases where the inequality reverses
 
I see, thanks.
 
@Topologicalife Take $a=1/10$ and $b=1/20$
You should think about it like this: Take $a,b$ such that $a^3$ and $b^3$ are insignificant
Then the fact that $a>b$ makes things bad, because that only makes the $a^3$ term bigger than $b^3$
 
11:07 AM
Oh right, thanks.
Then I am stuck at this problem:
Prove $\displaystyle \lim_{z\to \infty} \dfrac{z^4+2z}{z^4+1} = 1$
What I have so far is $\left |\dfrac{z^4+2z}{z^4+1} - 1 \right| = \left |\dfrac{2z-1}{z^4+1}\right | \leq \dfrac{2|z|+1}{|z^4|-1}$
The definition of limit stats that if $|z| > R$ where $R>0$ then $|f(z)-L| < \epsilon$
I tried to pick $\epsilon = \dfrac{2R+1}{R^4-1}$ but it didn't work.
 
11:22 AM
Hi, $$\text{Determine points of intersection }\\ V_1 : x^3+y^3+x^2y^2+xy+1=0 \\ V_2 : x^3+y^3+x^2y^2-xy-1=0$$
 
11:46 AM
@BalarkaSen I see you have a room with Ocelot, you naughty boi, lol.
 
@Datt
@Dattier the first step is to add the equations together, and also subtract one from the other, see what you get
 
Solved my problem.
 
12:02 PM
@robjohn Yes, I understand... thank you :)
 
12:12 PM
@JC574 : Bravo
more difficult : $$V_1 : x^3+4y^3+3x^2y^2+2xy-1=0 \\
V_2 : x^3+2y^3+3x^2y^2+4xy+1=0$$
 
12:39 PM
$arg(z\cdot w) = arg(z) + arg(w)$

Does the above hold for Principal value of $arg$ ?
 
mod 2pi
otherwise what happens if arg(z) and arg(w) are big enough for arg(z)+arg(w)>2pi?
 
ahh i see
 
@BalarkaSen Hi
 
1:06 PM
hi chat
 
Hiiiii @Semiclassical, lol.
 
1:41 PM
@Wildcard interestingly I don't think a correct answer has been posted on my question yet
there's 4 answers that all contradict eachother
 
Heya!
 
Hey everyone. Maybe not strictly on topic, but does anyone read pop books on mathematics? I just bought one called 'The Mathematics Lover's Companion'
I was looking for more recommendations if that's anybody's thing
 
2:00 PM
@jserv Things to Make and Do in the Fourth Dimension by Matt Parker
The pea & the sun by Leonard M. Wapner
 
Added to my list, thanks fuzz
 
@FuzzyPixelz I have that one and I like it.
Also, Group Theory in the Bedroom (forgot the author) might count, and there's The Colossal Book of Mathematics by Martin Gardner, which is essentially a big compilation of his Scientific American articles about recreational mathematics.
 
The former gives 'Brian Hayes' as the author, if that sounds familiar
 
Yep, that's him. That book is also a collection of magazine columns/articles, IIRC.
 
There is also Love and Math: The Heart of Hidden Reality by Edward Frenkel
I learn more about the philosophy of math and the speculation surrounding it, than I learn about the actual math $:($
 
2:08 PM
I just want something intellectually stimulating to accompany all the problems I'm solving
 
Did you try 3Blue1Brown ?
 
^ Love that channel!
 
Hey fellow fan, are you as excited to see the next video as I am ?
 
No, this is the first I've heard of it. I'll try out a few videos tonight.
 
@FuzzyPixelz I'm always excited to see his next videos.
Though if you're especially excited for his next video, then the answer is probably "no". :P
 
2:13 PM
Haha, not really, I don't know what the next will be about so there is nothing special about it in my book, yet.
 
I'm a Patreon supporter (he's actually the only one I support on Patreon at the moment) so I can say that the next video will probably be about quantum mechanics, neural networks, or probability. I have no idea which though.
 
Quantum mechanics would be interesting, and by that I mean counter-intuitive and mind blowing :)
 
i haven't watched anything by 3b1b
 
2:29 PM
@BalarkaSen Do you live in the same universe as I do ?
Who are you..
 
My reaction to the titles are, "crap", "me" and "I don't want to" respectively
I'm kidding. I have heard 3B1B is very good; I just haven't gotten around to watching anything by them
 
Thanks, @El'endiaStarman. I'll pick from these when I watch tonight.
 
No problem. I've learned something new and interesting from every 3B1B video, even those in subjects I knew (or rather, "knew"). Which was most of them.
 
2:35 PM
Maybe it's only good for a math enthusiast like me, we the masses don't know anything about high level academic math, so we tend to stand in awe of these kind of things, please forgive my ignorance @BalarkaSen
 
It's fine, @Secret, I didn't need that cognitive capacity for thinking about anything else, anyway
I'll be visualising higher dimensions and forgetting to chew my food tonight
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@FuzzyPixelz Not really. I have found myself getting thoroughly excited by a lot of elementary mathematics, or popular explanations of mathematics that I already know. If a person likes thinking, various perspectives about known facts are always bound to interest them.
I wasn't throwing a snide comment on popular mathematics and that channel. It was more of an inside joke on how I procrastinate in the worst possible way by watching memes on internet than watching at least a pop-math talk.
:P
 
I got over sensitive sorry :P
 
3:20 PM
[Waiting's harmonic series] Hmm, it seems there might be somethign nice here, but, that does not look quite in the shape of a recursion relation, but close
Let $H_0=0$
\begin{align}
S_k=\sum_{n=1}^{k}\frac{H_n}{n} & = \sum_{n=1}^k\frac{H_{n-1}}{n}+\frac{1}{n^2}\\
& = \sum_{n=1}^k\frac{H_{n-1}}{n}+\frac{1}{n^2}\\
& = \sum_{n=1}^k\frac{H_{n-1}}{n}+\sum_{n=1}^k\frac{1}{n^2}\\
& = \sum_{n=1}^k\frac{H_{n-1}}{n}+H_{k,2}\\
\end{align}
$H_{k,2}$ is the 2nd order kth generalised harmonic number, which is basically that sum of $\frac{1}{n^2}$ given a name
One thing to be checked is that in the infinite series limit, $\lim_{k\to \infty} H_{k,2}$ should tend to $\zeta (2)$
The remaining term can be unravelled, which give reciprocals of the form $\frac{1}{n(n-u)}$ where $u \in [0,n)$. However at present I am not sure how to sum those yet
Even if such a closed form can be obtained, I am not sure whether you will call a sum of n special functions an elegant closed form
since the harmonic number is basically that sum given a name
Meanwhile, the generalised case $$\sum_{n=1}^{k}\left(\frac{H_n}{n}\right)^{\ell}$$ may have a closed form as a long sum of special functions by doing similar expansion and then binomial expand the powers
 
3:38 PM
Thanks to the help of Semiclassic, simpleart and Leaky, I am starting to have some idea on how to handle infinite series. For now, I will restrict to investigation using elementary manipulation (i.e. +, - , *, / and use of relevant special functions and their identities, thus no integral or differential representations, nor representations and approximation in terms of other series) and try to learn as much of the dynamics of series as possible
Currently, the technique I learnt are generating functions, which is very useful in shifting the terms within a series in a linear fashion. More methods and intuition are to be learnt soon
 
Probably you're aware, but
One operation that's handy for generating functions is differentiation
So for instance differentiation maps $\sum_n a_n x^n\mapsto \sum_n (n+1) a_{n+1} x^{n}$
The tools also work a little differently if you have in mind an exponential generating function instead of an ordinary one
for instance, differentiation maps $\sum_n a_n \frac{x^n}{n!}\mapsto \sum_n a_{n+1}\frac{x^n}{n!}$
@BalarkaSen meant to ask. still doing physics stuff lately, or moved on from having to do that?
 
3:53 PM
@Semiclassical Ah yes. We're slowly getting into magnetic induction now.
Faraday's experiment was super cool
 
yeah, induction is fun.
Here's a fun thought experiment for you, in relation to that.
 
Okay
 
Suppose I have a coil of wire and a bar magnet. I've got an ammeter attached to the coil of wire, so it's a complete circuit and I'll be able to detect any current running through it
 
Mhm
 
Suppose I hold the bar magnet fixed and move the plane of the coil towards the north pole. What happens and why?
I'm holding the bar magnet fixed, so the magnetic field isn't changing here.
 
3:58 PM
I still get electricity running on the coil in the appropriate orientation (which I'm too lazy to figure out), don't I? Because the there is a relative motion between the coil and the bar magnet
 
Right. The way I'd explain it is that, in moving the coil, you're dragging the conduction electrons in the metal wire along with it
and electrons moving in a magnetic field experience a Lorentz force.
 
True, I agree.
 
the somewhat tricky part is that, if you draw the field lines emanating from the north pole, then what matters aren't the components which point along the axis of the bar magnet i.e. perpendicular to the plane of the wire
that's the same direction I'm dragging the electrons, so the cross product of that velocity with this part of the magnetic field is zero
a picture makes this more apparent but ugh don't wanna draw it
anyways. If I instead hold the coil fixed and move the magnet, then this explanation seems not to hold anymore since I'm not moving the conduction elecrtons.
But it's the same relative motion, so should have the same physical effect. What's the explanation then?
 
I'm changing the field strength in that case, aren't I? The force applied to the electrons are changing
 
Which field, to be clear?
 
4:05 PM
The magnetic field of the bar magnet
 
right
 
@Semiclassical Ah, yes, I agree of course
Sorry I'm being a little slow; finishing my dinner. Give me a minute or so
 
kk
to elaborate a little: the electrons aren't put into motion by my moving the coil, so for them to start moving there must be an electric field present. since the only thing that's changing in this scenario is the magnetic field, it must be the case that a varying magnetic field induces an electric field.
moreover, from the symmetry of the problem one should be able to deduce that the resulting electric field lines are closed circles. so this effect is different from Coulomb's law, where all field lines have to start and terminate at charges. (in terms of math, the electric field so generated isn't curl-free.)
So from such considerations one actually can infer Faraday's law of magnetic induction.
for the punchline to this, consider the following paragraph:
"It is known that Maxwell's electrodynamics—as usually understood at the present
time—when applied to moving bodies, leads to asymmetries which do not appear to
be inherent in the phenomena. Take, for example, the reciprocal electrodynamic
action of a magnet and a conductor. The observable phenomenon here depends only
on the relative motion of the conductor and the magnet, whereas the customary view
draws a sharp distinction between the two cases in which either the one or the other
of these bodies is in motion. For if the magnet is in motion and the conductor at rest,
There's a bit of historical significance to that paragraph :)
 
@Semiclassical That's an interesting perspective. So you don't really need Faraday's law (that changing magnetic field induces an electric field) to explain why, if I move the coil keeping the bar magnet same, current flows through the coil. And by moving the bar magnet while keeping the coil fixed, we actually can conclude Faraday's law because the two situations produce the same physical scenario
I have never thought that before
 
Right.
It's the same relative motion, though. So in some sense neither perspective should be preferred.
 
4:14 PM
Right, agreed
 
For the punchline, read that paragraph and then see the link :)
 
Ok. Thanks a lot.
 
Ah, cool physics.
 
yep, and cool history moreover
 
Hi @Ted
 
4:18 PM
Hi @Balarka
 
hi @ted
I asked this before, and still wanted your opinion
 
LOL, hi, Semiclassic.
 
Bishop and Crittenden
Good book / bad book / unremarkable?
 
They basically wrote up Singer's course. I have never studied it in detail. If I recall correctly, you'll find it has the principal bundle approach, full of differential forms.
 
mmkay
 
4:20 PM
I don't like jumping into principal bundles without first being experienced with the whole moving frames story.
But I haven't looked at that book since grad school. I never owned it.
 
I only have it because yay free books
 
I was upset that a UGA grad student who absconded with several thousand dollars of my books (free) then sold some of them off for a profit when he left pure math for applied.
 
ew
if you get books for free during a move, either hold on to them or pay it forward by handing them off as well.
 
It's a classic book, Semiclassic, so it fits you :)
 
lol
I also got a copy of Arnold's book on classical mechanics. definite win there
 
4:22 PM
I like that book. You will probably not agree with the physics exposition, but you'll learn some math from it :)
 
heh
first chapter in his section on Hamltonian mechanics: Differential forms
second: Symplectic manifolds
 
Differential forms rule, even though so many people are petrified of 'em. I just don't get it.
 
lets out a small squeak
 
Even my physicist friends who majored in math as well don't feel comfortable with them at all.
Stop that, Balarka!
 
I also got a copy of Whittaker and Watson
which is nice for special functions stuff
 
4:25 PM
Semiclassic, I think I posted my "homework" for the physics majors with exercises using forms and Hodge star to get div, grad, curl in different coordinate systems ... and there was a problem relating to the delta function, too.
 
and (very random here) Maclane's "Categories for the Working Mathematician"
ah, nice
 
Yes, it's a classic. I don't know it at all.
WW, I mean.
 
right
I suspect I'll never read Mac Lane but eh
seemed a pity not to grab it
 
I've never even looked at that.
 
nor I
category theory is pretty uncharted territory for me
I think I know how to do electrodynamics using forms
though that statement's a bit ambiguous, since one can do it either in 3 dimension or in 3+1 dimensions
3 dimensions is easier when you're doing div/grad/curl stuff. but you need 3+1 if you want to talk about the field strength tensor
Given how much physicists love stuff like point charges and line currents etc, I suspect that a full description of E&M would need to have k-currents in there rather than just k-forms
but that's beyond me a bit
 
4:30 PM
o/
 
Yeah, 3+1 was too much for my "freshman" course. I've mentioned Sternberg/Bamberg to you before (a Harvard math course with a ton of physics).
Hi @Danu.
 
right.
 
I don't think a $k$-current would be anything other than a dual object to a $k$-form.
 
I think the source I've seen for 3+1 is Misner/Thorne/Wheeler
 
4:32 PM
$e_1\wedge\dots\wedge e_k$ versus $dx_1\wedge\dots\wedge dx_k$.
 
you're probably right.
 
so, antisymmetric tensor fields?
 
D'you see my message @Ted?
It looks kind of promising to me
 
right. for instance, the field strength tensor $\mathcal{F}^{\mu \nu}$ is an antisymmetric tensor with components
 
I saw it quickly on my iPad. I didn't think about it.
@Balarka: antisymmetric contravariant tensor fields, i.e., $k$-vectors.
 
4:34 PM
$\mathcal{F}^{01}=E_1$, $\mathcal{F}^{23}=B_1$
 
yep
 
and then permuting everything properly.
 
I actually put a little section on 3+1 and Hodge star and Maxwell's equations in my book, Semiclassic, but it was a throw-away. I've never lectured it. No time.
 
I remember when my professor got pissed at me when I told him that $F_{\mu\nu}$ is not a matrix
 
(warning: I'm not being careful about co/contravariant, or signs, or factors of c.)
 
4:35 PM
all 2-tensors are matrices for physicists :)
 
Well, matrices needn't represent linear maps!
They might represent bilinear forms.
 
if I'm remembering right, it's $\mathcal{F}^\mu_\nu$ that's appropriate to think of as a matrix?
 
Context matters.
Linear transformation.
 
Yeah Semi
 
4:36 PM
kk
 
That's what the whole raising and lowering index game is about.
 
@TedShifrin Of course... But physicists don't make it clear
It's super horrible to learn from physicists about tensors
 
I'm just saying you're abusing the word matrix.
 
though probably the better one here is $\Lambda^\mu_\nu$ (Lorentz transformation)
 
I mean, really super horrible
Was honestly the worst pedagogical experience I've ever had
 
4:37 PM
since then 4-vectors transform as $v^\mu\mapsto \Lambda^\mu_\nu v^\nu$
I think part of the problem is how physicists use the word field
in elementary treatments, we're happy to use field as a synonym for 'function on R^3', whether it's a map to R or to R^3
so a vector field is just a map R^3->R^3 i.e. a vector function on R^3
 
I use the vector field language, thank you very much.
 
but when you go to higher stuff, a vector field is something that 'transforms like a vector'
 
Well, it's a section of the tangent bundle, even in freshman physics. :P
 
sure, but that's not how it's presnted
in diff-geo, by contrast, a vector field is a differential operator (right?)
and then the fact of how it transforms is literally just a consequence of the chain rule.
 
It is a differential operator, but I don't think of it that way most of the time. I mean, a vector is a derivative because it gives you a directional derivative at a point. That's all.
 
4:41 PM
hmm
 
I don't like to think of them as differential operators, at all
It feels like that's only good for algebraic identities :D
 
I think my point is just that, when you ask a physicist to write down an example of a vector field, they'd do something like $\vec{E}=(x\hat{x}+y\hat{y}+z\hat{z})/(x^2+y^2+z^2)^{3/2}$
 
It's good for understanding the difference between $C^k$ and smooth, @Danu. In fact, you can only use the differential operator approach on smooth manifolds. That's important, @Semiclassic. I should send you one of my exercises (which I stole from Spivak).
Yes, I would do that too in my multivariable math course. What's the big deal?
 
Right. I found that baffling. I also don't think I have any use for $C^k$, honestly.
 
hmm
Maybe I don't have one. feels like whatever point I had is evaporating
 
4:44 PM
I thought it was supposed to always be possible to pass from $C^k$ to smooth in a unique way
 
Hi @Alessandro
 
oh well.
 
@Semiclassic: At any rate, unless you're in the smooth world, it's important to think of tangent vectors as equivalence classes of curves in the manifold. But meh ...
 
ehhh, I suspect in physics you're pretty happy to live in the smooth world.
I can't say that with any authority, though
 
4:48 PM
I have been too, except for things like singularities in complex varieties ...
 
point
and I have had to deal with those a bit
 
By the way, @Ted, do you have any idea how the field of sort of "general structure theory" for 3- 4- or maybe even higher-dimensional complex manifolds is doing? I caught a glimpse while writing about those uniqueness theorems in complex geometry and it seemed pretty nice (minimal model program?).
 
No, totally clueless.
 
The proof of the Picard-Lindelöf theorem uses the Banach fixed point theorem in a beautiful and unexpected way
 
OK
 
4:50 PM
Mori started the whole minimal models thing for 3-folds, but I've never been in this loop. That was back in the 70s.
@Alessandro: Huge amounts of analysis can be set up as iterating to a fixed point.
 
@AlessandroCodenotti Yep
 
That's how I prove the inverse function theorem in my book (standard Banach space proof).
 
@Ted I think I once had the realization that that proof is kinda like Newton's method
You're iterating to a solution to phi(x) = y
for a given y
 
Hubbard's proof of the IFT is essentially Newton's method (Kantorovich's theorem).
 
fixed point stuff definitely appeals to the computer in me. if your solution isn't good enough, iterate until it is.
 
4:52 PM
But in my book I motivated the whole contraction mapping thing with Newton's method, so perhaps you're remembering that.
 
Yeah, possibly.
I enjoyed proving Kantorovich's theorem from your exercises
 
Do I hear fixed point theory?
 
Yeah, I still don't like Hubbard's judgment in pedagogy, but he's a lot more popular than I am, so he must be right.
 
it's not quite the same, but I dig variational principles for similar reasons
 
the other thing with Newton's method that's fun is the connection to chaos theory
though I guess one could put that more broadly in the category of "weird stuff that can happen if you iterate a nonlinear map"
 
@TedShifrin interesting, I should read it
 
Hi chat
 
Hi Eric.
@Alessandro: Or watch the video(s).
 
Even better, I forgot you have videos of the multivariable course
 
5:00 PM
Let $A$ and $B$ be sets. Is it true that $A-B = B^c - A^c$, where $A^c = U - A$ and $U$ is the universe? I think I proved it but I would like verification.
 
Supposedly a good women's match going on @Ted (I can't watch at uni, sadly :( )
 
Yup. I'm mostly watching it. Pliskova vs. Vandeweghe ... Could be 4 Americans in the semis. :P
 
Disgusting! :P
 
Anybody have any interesting math going on
 
Actually I now have the doubt that the proof I saw last year was the fixed point proof in disguise. I remember a lot of estimates that are basically the same one does to prove the Banach fixed point theorem
 
5:02 PM
Anyone?
 
@user193319: Prove containment both ways.
 
@TedShifrin That's what I did, and the proof appears correct. Thanks!
 
Yup. :)
Eric: That's your job.
 
@Eric How interested are you in octonions...? (just kiddin, you don't wanna get into this :P)
Also, I was under the impression that Vanderweghe had to be Belgian for the longest time @Ted... Finally a successor for Henin-Ardenne & Clijsters, I thought.
Her name is certainly Belgian in origin
 
5:18 PM
hi mike
et al :)
 
@Danu I know very little about them
@Ted fair point, I should be studying maximum principles for heat equation type things RN but I'm not in a super analysis-y mood
 
hi chat
I have a proof of <a^k > = < a^gcd(n,k) > , can someone tell me if it is true or not?
 
If you have a proof, then why aren't you sure?
 
@Danu not that am not sure, i want to see if i didint miss any important arugment because the proof on my textbook is different than mine
I did not see the whole proof to be sure its the same idea or not but from first look it
does not look the same
 
5:46 PM
Hi all, just a quick notation question: is e(a,b) the same as a^b?
 
Does anyone have "Introduction to Dynamical Systems" by Robinson online?
 
Hey guys!
 
ohi
 
@SteamyRoot Sup streamy
 
How's it going?
 
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