English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

4:56 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer: A verb that describes an action by someone who is new in town by Zubeyda on english.SE

Tonepoet

6:16 AM

How does anybody tolerate twitter? I can barely fit everything I want to say in the space of 500 characters for this website, let alone imagine how it can be done in the 140 character limit they have over there.

Færd

7:15 AM

The Evolution of Trust

Such a fun and educational game.

user288256

8:03 AM

@JasperLoy Heh, I only mean it in a friendly way, and @Tonepoet is cool with that I'm sure. =)

user288256

@Tonepoet My internet died all of a sudden last night otherwise I would have tried to convince you of the point I was trying to make.

user288256

Which doesn't seem fun to do so again. Anyway, some other time.

Tonepoet

@Ghalib I can barely remember what happened today, let alone last night.

Are you going then?

user288256

Hah. Why can't you remember today?

user288256

@Tonepoet No, I am here.

Tonepoet

8:09 AM

@Ghalib I'm not sure. I'm in a bind on meta because of it though. XP

user288256

Oh okay.

user288256

@Tonepoet Move to reddit. Character limit there for a comment is 10,000 words.

user288256

It is true but that website is... I don't know... your call.

user288256

I am kind of a writer, but I almost never engage in a discussion there. By writer I mean I enjoy writing, in English.

user288256

In my own language I very rarely write these days.

Jasper Loy

8:47 AM

@sumelic Hello, I see you are still a turtle.

marcellothearcane

11:30 AM

@Tonepoet Try mastodon... there's loads of varieties...

Matt E. Эллен

11:47 AM

@Tonepoet 1. brevity soul wit. 2. threads. I guess Twitter isn't for everyone. Their UX leaves a lot to be desired for many reasons.

The Raiders of Las Vegas

"Learning from failures of other networks, Mastodon aims to make ethical design choices to combat the misuse of social media."

It didn't hold my interest for long.

I like Twitter.

The Raiders of Las Vegas

12:19 PM

The lit.se room has a nice Twitter feed.

Jasper Loy

12:29 PM

@TheRaidersofLasVegas Hello, pal.

RegDwigнt

12:51 PM

@Cerberus And now for some Kazakh architecture!

Rug really tied the room together - Big Lebowski

►

user685252

1:27 PM

@JasperLoy Hi, pal.

Mitch

"When did ‘thing’ become a thing?" just became a thing!

5

Woo hoo!

@user685252 Dude

The only reason anybody has any idea who you are is because nobody knows who you are but since you're the only one like that, we know you're that guy.

user685252

:D

Mitch

It's like the party where everyone comes in a mask, and everyone knows everyone else's mask. But then someone comes in without a mask...wait, gotta get the metaphor right... someone comes in with a ghost sheet over their head. And most people go 'What?' and then eventually someone else figures out 'Ohhhh, that's the guy that keeps forgetting his mask.'

Because his ponytail is showing.

You have a ponytail, right?

meeting! later!

skullpatrol

Cya.

user288256

Sometimes I think internet sucks, but then, when real life starts sucking I think internet is better, but then internet starts sucking again.

Jakub

1:42 PM

Hi chat, could anybody tell me if this sentence make sense? I've reread it so many times already it's lost all meaning: "If there is one to truly behold what creature his mind and body aspire to shape, it is this (person) being shown a muscular, standing-tall body with a powerful visage and a sword on its back."

Cerberus

@RegDwigнt The carpets look lovely!

user288256

1:57 PM

@Mitch Even a casual meeting with a friend can be a meeting right?

Jasper Loy

3:58 PM

@Mitch Woohoo! What a beautiful description!

It seems that @skullpatrol and @user685252 and @TheRaidersofLasVegas are just some of the chat accounts that skullie has. How many more are there?

Secret

Alice: balls have zero to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to

Bob: you i everything else

Alice: balls have a ball to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me

Bob: i . . . . . .. . . . . .

Alice: balls have zero to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to

Bob: you i i i i i everything else . . . . . . . . . . . .

Alice: balls have 0 to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to

It will be cool if we can somehow decode what these two facebook AI are saying

naive guess suggest this language of theirs involve only the words: ball, everything else, I, you, zero, me

(NB shared this here for discussion because it seemed to be most relevant as there is no international language SE chat and that the language does make use of english words)

if .... is really elllipses like in english, I will guess Bob is either confused or something when Alice said balls have balls

since bob give more or less the same response when alice said balls have zero

so 'zero' and 'have balls' might be describing two different aspect of the object 'ball'

Mitch

4:16 PM

@Secret A movement is accomplished in six stages and the seventh brings return.

It's pretty obvious.

Now you know!

Secret

movement?

Syntactic movement

Syntactic movement is the means by which some theories of syntax address discontinuities. Movement was first postulated by structuralist linguists who expressed it in terms of discontinuous constituents or displacement. Certain constituents appear to have been displaced from the position where they receive important features of interpretation. The concept of movement is controversial; it is associated with so-called transformational or derivational theories of syntax (e.g. transformational grammar, government and binding theory, minimalist program). Representational theories (e.g. head-driven phrase...

Still not very obvious to me how it is done in 6 stages, does it mean it takes 6 lines of Alice bob to make one movement?

Jakub

@Secret Maybe it's organically born exploits. Alice adds "to me" a few times after saying "balls have zero (value?)' because Bobo the robo perceives it as strong assurance.

Or they assigned their own values to "I" "ball" "me" etc. So "ball = zero, to me to me..." or "Ball = the value I've assigned to Ball"

Secret

4:34 PM

currently cannot get anything more complete than that from google, but it appears the balls owned by Alice and Bob have different value and each of them has one in possession

ah wait, then "everything else" may make sense

I am guessing Alice want bob's ball, but bob decline the request and said anything else (to take?) is ok

Tonepoet

@tchrist How often do we get resource requests on the main website these days? I think we used to get plenty, but I haven't noticed them as often. Are they just being deleted before I notice, has their popularity waned, or am I just overestimating how many we used to get?

Jakub

@Secret Do you know how complex this Ai is? Whole might of facebook's research or a glorified calculator?

Secret

code.facebook.com/posts/1686672014972296/…

I think this might be the context, some kind of negotiation AI

Jakub

4:51 PM

It looks like a simple monte carlo tree search with syntax.

Jakub

5:06 PM

@Secret But where does that syntax corruption comes in? Maybe the bot uses a modified sentence of the other party?

Secret

what I learnt from the various media and blogs is that they forgot to put proper english syntax in training them, resulting in these broken pseudoenglish like phrases, but you seemed to raise a good point. Even if they run under their own syntax, it does appeared to be corrupted (because Bob's response look weird with all those ellipses). I am not very sure but if the AI are communiating somewhat, it would not be suprising that their way of speech will be affecting each other

Using the context we have so far, Alice seemed to be negotiating about the ball with Bob

Jakub

5:48 PM

@Mitch You seem to have a good heart and a colorful avatar, could you help me with the sentence at :39179098 ?

MetaEd

@Secret Okay, but what are Ted and Carol's positions on it?

Matt E. Эллен

@Secret not to deter you from chatting here, but there is a linguistics chat

Jasper Loy

To me, Alice and Bob are just talking crap.

Secret

6:05 PM

@MattE.Эллен I see, thanks

Jasper Loy

Obviously, I don't care about rep points, having deleted so many accounts, but I think there is a particular high rep user here who doesn't like me, and often downvotes my posts for the smallest reason and upvotes other posts to bring mine to a lower position.

However, I shan't name him here, firstly because it is only my guess. But it's now quite interesting to me how he judges these answers and I think he is incompetent.

I guess this is the end of my rant, thanks.

M.A.R.

6:35 PM

@JasperLoy don't like him back

Jasper Loy

@M.A.R. I am surprised they even block BBC there. That is really too much...

M.A.R.

@JasperLoy heh, well, political thingies always get blocked and it's not such a surprise

Jasper Loy

@M.A.R. Oh well, terrible place to live in then, not that where I live is much better.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@JasperLoy You could test this theory by creating two accounts, one with your name, and one with a name that isn't similar to your usual handles, and post answers on lots of questions, then see if there's a statistical difference to how those answers are treated.

M.A.R.

The Islamic system considers itself faultless, and it doesn't take criticism well. Well, it doesn't take criticism at all. Kinda contradictory

Goes without saying how much the officials believe in what they expect us to believe in

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

6:40 PM

@M.A.R. If you're faultless, isn't all criticism wrong?

Jasper Loy

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Well, to be stringent, this doesn't really work because you can't post the same answer on the same question using two different names. =D

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@JasperLoy No, you'd have to post on lots of answers and look for a pattern

M.A.R.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 and that's an excuse to silence criticism, why? If you're faultless, you should prove them wrong

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

if someone is targeting you, then your answers with your name should attract more downvotes.

2

Jasper Loy

Of course I know that. I just think that this user is biased against me, but anyway, don't think too much about it. It's just a rant. =D

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

6:42 PM

@M.A.R. Well, who said "silence criticism"? Are you referring to religious groups or political groups?

@JasperLoy Also, for this to work, you'll need to write your answers and then afterwards randomly post them as one account or the other. Otherwise your own selection bias could dictate which answers get posted by which account, which could skew the results.

M.A.R.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 the Iranian political parties are religious, so I dunno how to answer that o.o

Jasper Loy

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Wow wow, you seem to be very scientific today!

M.A.R.

Don't mind me, I'm just complaining about the censorship

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@JasperLoy I'm always scientific!

M.A.R.

No, you're always Shiny and New

Jasper Loy

6:45 PM

Like maybe there are 5 answers and suddenly 4 of them are upvoted but not mine. Then I look at this user and he just logged in, LOL.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@M.A.R. Well, but they're political parties. So that's an inescapable aspect of their nature... and you'll find that many other political powers are also intolerant of criticism. E.g. I think in Thailand it's a crime to criticize the king.

Jasper Loy

And I have been studying this user for years now, LOL.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@M.A.R. Even as I get older and shinier I still remain new.

@JasperLoy yeah but it could be confirmation bias.

M.A.R.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I just want to be able to watch YouTube videos :(

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@M.A.R. I hear ya.

Jasper Loy

6:47 PM

@M.A.R. I hope you are born in a better place next life. But you can try to leave your country this life as well.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Can you get a VPN or proxy or something?

M.A.R.

I mean, this is ridiculous. More than half the internet is closed by default, and everyone ignores it. Zarif even tweets everything he does or Trump does

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 not on this mobile crap

Jasper Loy

@M.A.R. This is a sick world where sick people control others.

And these sick people made me very sick...

M.A.R.

Sickness is contagious

Just like slickness

Jasper Loy

This may not help you, but whatever happens to you, just try to maintain mental health.

Because once you lose that, it is hard to get it back, and you will lose everything in life as well.

M.A.R.

6:51 PM

A solitary rant on a corner of internet is far from mental illness

Real far

Jasper Loy

So far, yet so near...

M.A.R.

Yet so so far

Yet so so so near

Mitch

7:06 PM

@Jakub Only because you mentioned my color and judged me correctly for that color.

M.A.R.

@Mitch what color are you?

Mitch

@Jakub It is kind of a mess. I'd say it can be interpreted grammatically, but when I try to do that, it sorta doesn't make sense. I don't know who is doing what to whom, or rather who is beholding whom.

It would help quite a bit if you gave the source link and also context around it.

@M.A.R. What do you mean?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Mitch He wants to know what colour you are.

Jasper Loy

Oh hey @Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I forgot to say hi, long time no see! I see you are still a room owner.

Mitch

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Oh. That wasn't clear. What does he want to know about my color?

@Jakub "...it is this (person) being shown a ... body...": where does "(person)" come from? is that actually like that in the quote?

Jakub

7:22 PM

@Mitch If there is one(subject) to truly behold what creature his(object's) mind and body aspire to shape, it is this (subject) being shown a muscular, standing-tall body(object's) with a powerful visage and a sword on its back. --- I had to change the nouns to make it make sense as a snippet, in the original, body and body wouldn't repeat.

Mitch

That's messing up anybody's analysis. Can you give the context (surrounding text/paragraph)? And/or just give the exact quote?

So "(subject)" doesn't appear at all in the original? Give the original

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 How about back-handed compliments? Is that OK?

Jakub

@Mitch “Go down a few steps,” he says. He doesn't hear an answer but sees the shadows shifting smaller. The smoke pours our out with him. If there is one to truly behold what creature Green's metal aspires to shape, it is this unnamed being shown a polished, standing tall body with a powerful visage, in a thin veil of cloud.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@JasperLoy yeah, it's good to see you back. I worry about you when you're away.

@Mitch I'm sure there's a wide latitude in the law to allow the king to punish you even if it's a front-handed compliment that he doesn't approve of.

Mitch

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Like "You look so good with makeup" or "You're so brave to wear that outfit"

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Mitch yeah I don't know. I'm not even 100% sure it's Thailand.

Mitch

7:31 PM

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 "You're so much nicer than I expected for someone from Thailand"

"Oh... you're not from Thailand? We can't all be so lucky!"

@Jakub I'm replacing complicated things with much less complicated things, maybe that will help:

Jakub

@Mitch Green says "Go down..." through the door of his house to the Unnamed, there's smoke inside the house from earlier action. "Green's metal" can be interpreted as Green's body/form because it is a scifi piece.

Mitch

@Jakub "If there is one person to behold something, it is this person shown another thing"

Or maybe reverse the bolding

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Mitch okay yeah, it's Thailand. And I just learned that the king died in late 2016 (wonder how I could have missed that) and his nutty son is king now. The son who, in 2001, held a birthday party for his dog, where his wife (the crown princess) was wearing only a g-string and sang happy birthday to the dog.

Mitch

So it is very parallel. "If there is one thing doing one thing, then it is this thing doing this thing"

skullpatrol

That gives new meaning to the saying "lucky dog."

:P

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

7:39 PM

there is video of the birthday party online, for those interested in googling.

Mitch

Stylistically I would say, like @JasperLoy, that it is crap. Uselessly wordy. The first part says nothing and could be removed. maybe say something equally empty but easier to parse "Isn't it something that it is this unnamed being..."

And really, why is it such a big deal to be shown something. Not particularly evocative of anything.

skullpatrol

Nah, thanks anyway.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Jakub I have no idea what this passage is trying to say.

Mitch

@Jakub Cut out all the references to other things, that's leading you astray. Simplify the sentence by replacing noun phrases with simple nouns to see what is happening to what.

@skullpatrol ba dum, tiss!

skullpatrol

:D

Mitch

7:42 PM

@Jakub Just because things are written and published doesn't mean they are ... good or right or whatever.

skullpatrol

^ true dat

M.A.R.

@Mitch no.

writes and publishes that

Wins a Nobel disagreement prize

Tonepoet

@Mitch Yes yes, we know. It has to say Oxford or Webster on it too. =P

M.A.R.

@Tonepoet or anything else. That's what I'm saying!

Mitch

@M.A.R. I think you would need to work harder to reach Nobel level disagreement

M.A.R.

7:47 PM

@Mitch like, 38294 noes?

Mitch

@M.A.R. OK, that would work pretty good on the way to an exaggeration Nobel.

M.A.R.

@Mitch oh I see. It has to be deep also

Like, nnnnnnnnooooooooooo

marcellothearcane

@M.A.R. you could try different languages...?

M.A.R.

نه لا no

Mitch

_Anybody can say 'no'. Not everyone has the artistic integrity together with originality to choose 38294. No one else has said quite what we were all thinking until '38294'.

M.A.R.

7:50 PM

@Mitch I think you're in love with 38294 now

Mitch

blushes

Jakub

@Mitch Oh man thanks, those long sentences that are hard to shorten and cut up are my little nightmares. I write them one night, not particularity sober, then for the life of me I'm not able to rewrite them competently.

Mitch

@Jakub Try 19th prose. A single sentence by Jane Austen is as long as a paragraph (and contains a chapter's worth). And is grammatical and makes sense.

Jakub

@Mitch I'll definitely try(I've only listened to audiobooks of hers). I've been so desperate as to google "fancy sentences" just today :0

MrGrj

Hi there, may I ask for a suggestion here?

I need one word for the italic part: "This is perfect, exactly what we needed"

skullpatrol

8:06 PM

How about using the definition of perfect? If something is "perfect," then you don't need to say anything else.

MrGrj

@skullpatrol oh well, that's not what I'm after ;P

Jakub

Does it need to be one word?

You can add "Bingo!" on the end :P

skullpatrol

That^ works.

MrGrj

@Jakub yep, it does. Ha! Nice one with bingo but that doesn't mean exactly that. +1 though ;P

I'm wondering if it'd fit as a question under single-word-requests tag :D

skullpatrol

How about some more context please.

Why do you need only one word?

What are you intending to convey.

Mitch

8:20 PM

@MrGrj spot on

innit

Johan Larsson

8:38 PM

I think I saw a flag

Was a number over my face

skullpatrol

Nothing flag-able is going on in here pal.

Johan Larsson

Did not mean like that

Just first flag, or a glitch

skullpatrol

Probably a glitch.

Johan Larsson

I got ten reps today, maybe I have 10k network wide now, dunno

Matt E. Эллен

@JohanLarsson 10024 reps

skullpatrol

8:52 PM

You're in the elite club now.

Jasper Loy

I am in the deletion club.

skullpatrol

lol

Tonepoet

@M.A.R. No, no, not anything else but rather everything else! Don't you know how to garner disagreement? Just cite the American Heritage Urban Cambridge Advanced Wikitionary and Synonym Finder! That'll show 'em you don't care for any singular source. =P

skullpatrol

@JasperLoy how are you?

Jasper Loy

@skullpatrol Not good. Still trying to get better. =(

Matt E. Эллен

8:55 PM

@Tonepoet the AHUCAWSF, I know it well. I have a 4th edition on my bookshelves

Johan Larsson

@MattE.Эллен took a long time

skullpatrol

@JasperLoy any luck trying to find a good therapist yet?

Jasper Loy

@skullpatrol Do you like my blue photo? I like it a lot.

Matt E. Эллен

@JohanLarsson you worked hard for your reps

Johan Larsson

I idled hard

Jasper Loy

8:57 PM

@skullpatrol Well, a good one seems quite expensive, still considering. Something like 200 dollars an hour...

Johan Larsson

Have a couple of answers that gave reps a couple of times per month

skullpatrol

@JasperLoy wow!

Matt E. Эллен

I need to find some geese like that. my SO score is still around 6k

Jasper Loy

Maybe rep still made sense to me long ago, but current voting patterns suggest otherwise.

Johan Larsson

Does this mean I can read deleted messages? That would be awesome

Matt E. Эллен

8:58 PM

... I don't know

Jasper Loy

I think very often the best answers are not at the top, so rep doesn't mean anything anymore.

Johan Larsson

@MattE.Эллен delete it!

Matt E. Эллен

@JohanLarsson I just deleted one of mine

Johan Larsson

ah, can't read

Matt E. Эллен

:(

Johan Larsson

8:59 PM

need to be owner

Tonepoet

@JasperLoy I think the voting privilege needs to be bumped up to at least 1,000 rep. to prevent hot network questions from attracting an undue number of votes.

skullpatrol

@JasperLoy you get what you pay for. Give it a try once pal.

Jasper Loy

@Tonepoet That is not the problem to me. The problem is, according to my own biases of course, the presence of many high rep users who are incompetent.

Tonepoet

Somebody's pinging me and I don't know where...

Jasper Loy

@skullpatrol What about you? Are you OK these days?

skullpatrol

9:01 PM

Yeah, still alive.

Jasper Loy

@Tonepoet Of course to follow on, it could be my own incompetence in judging their incompetence, but in some cases, I am very sure of my judgement.

@skullpatrol Hey you haven't told me whether you like my pic or not, lol.

skullpatrol

I like it @JasperLoy

Jasper Loy

I took it only when I created the account, so it is how I look right now, lol.

skullpatrol

Football season starts tomorrow, that's a good thing for me :-)

Jasper Loy

You mean American football?

skullpatrol

9:04 PM

Yup

Jasper Loy

I don't even understand European football, let alone American football.

All I know is that people are supposed to get the ball somewhere.

skullpatrol

In the net.

Jasper Loy

Interestingly balls and nets are mathematical terms.

skullpatrol

Indeed.

Jakub

They try to kick the ball through the hoop with their wooden clubs, nothing easier.

Jasper Loy

9:08 PM

What language is the name Jakub in?

Jakub

Polish, and yours?

Jasper Loy

Well, the language is English.

Ah, Polish! I like the Polish mathematician Stefan Banach! He thought of many theorems in this Polish cafe!

Ah, now I have 100 points on English SE, yay!

skullpatrol

Not to mention all the talk about Polish notation :-)

Jasper Loy

And reverse Polish notation, or RPN, LOL.

I think the tex package pstricks uses RPN.

skullpatrol

Is "hsilop" RPN?

Jasper Loy

9:13 PM

It's just reverse English, LOL.

skullpatrol

:D

Jasper Loy

Now that I have 100 points on Eng, I will retire and try to post on Math instead, LOL.

skullpatrol

Good to have you back pal @JasperLoy

Jasper Loy

@skullpatrol Yeah, you too!

skullpatrol

I was never gone ;-)

Jasper Loy

9:16 PM

I just created a new email, new SE, new blog and new youtube channel, and I will try not to delete any of them this time.

This is a new start for me!

skullpatrol

Great!

Jasper Loy

And I also really hope I can get well this year and start studying math next year.

skullpatrol

One step at a time...

Jasper Loy

Is Raiders a football club?

skullpatrol

Yup

Tonepoet

9:23 PM

@NVZ Despite not being a native speaker, you sure are perceptive. "Torch" is the name for temporary replacements for people who had their existence eaten by supernatural beings called Denizens of the in Shakugan no Shana, meant to lessen the effects of their removal from the entirety of space time. In other words, it's an anime/light novel reference. XP

The rest is just taken from "husk of a man".

Though I made the mistake of writing husk of a shell which is completely redundant. Bleh.

terdon

@Tonepoet Heh, as is completely redundant :P

Tonepoet

Also, if that seems random, it's 'cause I'm lazy, can ping NVZ here, and don't want to engage in extended conversation in the comments

terdon

@Tonepoet Ah, yes, fair point. Partial redundancy is indeed a "thing". I'd still call completely redundant redundant though. That's what redundant means, after all. But I was just pulling your leg.

Tonepoet

@terdon Is that so? I was more under the impression that redundant meant extra or unnecessary.

terdon

9:39 PM

@Tonepoet Well yes. But if something is redundant, then it is completely redundant. So in the absence of a modifier, I would understand redundant to mean completely redundant.

Tonepoet

Then there's the whole issue of complete/perfect synonymy.

terdon

Otherwise, it isn't actually redundant, only partially so.

@Tonepoet Ooh, there's a can of worms.

Linguist friends have convinced me there's no such thing as complete synonymy but only under duress.

Tonepoet

@terdon A whole can of worms:

Or should that be complete? Or perfect? Hmm...

terdon

:)

Mitch

10:32 PM

Jul 17 at 13:03, by Mitch

There are no exact synonyms

Except for math definitions. Those are stipulated, meaning that a word has exactly the meaning the definition says and no other.

@JasperLoy I the elision club

Jasper Loy

@Mitch I wish I can ignore this user on the main site. I can't stand him anymore!

user288256

I drank homemade lemonade and now I feel very sick. I think I might die. :(

user288256

It never happens.

Mitch

@JasperLoy That's tough.

user288256

Normally I mean.

Jasper Loy

10:37 PM

@Ghalib Then you should go to the hospital immediately.

user288256

Argh. You tweened me Mitch.

Jasper Loy

@Mitch This guy is so unpleasant but I think ignoring is the best policy.

user288256

@JasperLoy I hate hospitals.

Mitch

@JasperLoy Do you think a flag (Just one) would help

Jasper Loy

@Ghalib This is the best advice I can give you. Go to the emergency department immediately.

user288256

10:38 PM

okay.

Jasper Loy

@Mitch I think I need to remind myself that it is just someone on the internet.

Mitch

@Ghalib Aw man, needs way more sugar

@Ghalib haha. now you see how it feels.

it's the worst

user288256

Who is this guy we are talking about? I am clueless.

user288256

But don't mention it I guess. I already feel sick.

user288256

heh.

user288256

10:40 PM

@Mitch You like giving paybacks. You are mean. =)

Mitch

@JasperLoy That is good to remember. I wish I knew that long ago.

Jasper Loy

@Ghalib Are you the guy whose username used to be English Student?

Mitch

@Ghalib Feel the burn

user288256

Well, my sister is a doctor. I will call her.

user288256

Instead of going to hospital I mean.

Mitch

10:44 PM

actually sugar really would help against too much acidic food. (but note that the acid already in your stomach that is naturally produced to break down food is way more powerful than anything you could eat.

Jasper Loy

@Mitch Just now I wanted to write a comment in response to his comment on the main site, but I stopped short. No point doing this.

Mitch

@JasperLoy yeah. just ignore.

user288256

@JasperLoy That is one nice username by the way.

Jasper Loy

@Ghalib I suppose you are not that guy then.

user288256

You can search this English Student if you like.

Jasper Loy

10:47 PM

I am not going to search. I only asked you a direct question. If you don't want to answer it then I won't bother.

Mitch

there's 'English Student' and there's 'english student'

user288256

Well, it doesn't matter who I am. What matters is I'm chatting here.

Jasper Loy

It actually does matter who you are, because there is a personal touch to chat.

I for example don't want to talk to a robot.

Mitch

Everything I say is a copy of something else somewhere so...

Now I feel bad.

@JasperLoy Oh, I think that is interesting. Trying to mess with it to break it.

Jasper Loy

@Mitch Oh the comment got removed even though I did not flag it. But I was upset not because of what the comment said explicitly but because it reminds me of how obnoxious this user is.

Mitch

10:52 PM

:39191892 What did you think of Arrowfar while he was here?

user288256

@Mitch haha

user288256

That's a good one.

Jasper Loy

Sometimes I think the rep system here is very superficial, but then I realised hey it just parallels real life!

Sure in real life it's harder to earn real reputation, but even then, very often, it is not a good reflection of the person's contributions.

There are so many great people getting less than what they deserve and so many bad people getting more than what they deserve.

So I guess SE and life are the same, LOL.

Mitch

:39191930 I heard...well actually I think that is supposed to not be public

Jasper Loy

Oh and I really miss Ron Maimon, that mad genius. I think a decade long SE wide ban is too long.

Mitch

10:56 PM

@JasperLoy it's an oversimplified proxy for success

user288256

I have to go. Laters.

user288256

Will talk if gods allow. :)

Mitch

@JasperLoy some mediocre people who work really hard but still produce things that don't contain much knowledge.

Jasper Loy

@Mitch I am more upset with people who think they are really great when they are not really great.

Mitch

I can't remember his name

Nov 18 '15 at 15:12, by RegDwigнt

Inshallah.

Jasper Loy

10:58 PM

I wasn't referring to what you did there. It is someone else. He is OK. I like him.

user288256

@Mitch Thanks.

Mitch

@JasperLoy all copy pasta and nothing else

not wrong.

but just... stuff from other sites

Jasper Loy

@Mitch That's OK. It's someone else, LOL, I won't even mention now...

Mitch

no intelligence added

Jasper Loy

Wow that was fast. You just vanished after that line. I guess you are hungry, LOL.

Oh @Ghalib I saw what you did there, no worries.

user288256

11:01 PM

Good night.

Jasper Loy

:39192075 Yeah but you should really go to the hospital.

user288256

Oh, yeah, okay.

Jasper Loy

It could be a serious case of food poisoning.

user288256

I know.

Jasper Loy

I had food poisoning like only once.

I didn't even see a doctor.

I bled for three days while shitting, and it was so painful I felt I was gonna die.

But I survived without taking any meds.

Mitch

11:16 PM

@JasperLoy exactly. Hungry

tchrist

11:30 PM

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Jasper Loy

LOL.

Hello @tchrist I hope you are doing OK there. Are you still with your cats?

tchrist

yes

Jasper Loy

I remember one is called Lorin.

tchrist

He is.

And the other is Randy.

Jasper Loy

Ah, Randy Jackson is the guy on American Idol who always says 'Check it out!' when he was the judge.