4:00 PM
@Mithrandir is it WATER? (H to O)

Yeah.
I use it every time we have guests ;)

BY+LINE

4:03 PM
I was hoping to mislead with "article component" but the rest didn't work out well

'next to' could even be 'by'

I thought "next to straight" had something to do with poker hands.

that would have been a bit unfair - would have required poker knowledge

eh, not unfair

As opposed to having knowledge of the Nato alphabet, Scottish words, US states' postal codes, Greek mythology, ...

4:17 PM
CCCC: Dress for a duo, according to hearsay (4)
slightly less terrible

CCCC is Cryptic Clue Chat Chains! See Deusovi's Cryptic Clue Guide and GPR's Archive & Statistics of past clues. Latest clue is ⤵ there! Join the fun!
5

Ugh it's like 3 days behind

(I added a pin to Rubio's CCCC info message ... and now it's above the latest clue again)
@Rubio, maybe you need an up-arrow and a down-arrow, or something

or up-pin Deus' clue

4:28 PM
they sort by pin count, then by age. then by star count, then by age again.
RO pins appear to weigh less than mod pins, somehow, but more than stars.

wouldn't it be nice to have something that's more robust against randomness in how many pins what gets when from whom?

usually, age wins, and the latest clue sifts to the top

Well @Rubio all the ROs are mods now so

unfortunately "[up] there or [down] there" adds too many characters, I assume. I guess you could remove "Join the fun!".

took me 3 readings to understand that :P

4:30 PM
"The fun starts once you have found the clue!"

4:58 PM
@Deusovi TUTU ?!

@Deus you seem to always come up with such ingenious stuff to make clues.
Also, how do you write that on the archive?

I don't think that's right, but it might be

Wordplay?

duo (TWO, hearsay makes it TU)

Not sure actually. "according to hearsay" indicating homophone, two-two → tutu
but that doesn't feel tight enough for a Deusovi clue

5:02 PM
why two twice?

for --> TO, a duo --> TWO, according to hearsay --> TUTU

How is for=to?

for example, when sending a letter

oh.
hang on
CCCC: Reeled in game around unusual locations. (8)

Pokemon Snap

5:10 PM
Archive should be all up to date in another couple minutes

Ok, I'm doing some research and got confused: is there a difference between a caesar shift and a rot cipher?

Nope

Deus, some people put your name as deusovi instead of Deusovi in the archive

Thanks...

They must think you're not a real person

5:14 PM
???

about the date on the archive, are we using the UTC time?

It's not capitalized, so it's not really a pronoun
e.g you're not real

Pronoun?

Proper noun, you mean?

can confirm...not capitalized, not real

5:16 PM
Pro (per) noun

Please make them consistent, I think the pivot table will end up with two entries otherwise. I'd only noticed the capitalized ones

Whatever, grammar shmammer

and I've used UTC time for dates
poltergeist is misspelled in the archive

aw, paramesis got the big milestone
i was close D:

5:20 PM

@Rubio I was inputting a lot of them sorry

yah just letting you know. thanks for fixing
I love how the chat links are so spastic

I think Deus corrected that and finished the last couple bits, but it's up to date now
I think all the dates and stuff are right

Some are link-y, some not; some are the ?m=#... form, some not

Yeah they're a bit all over
I usually leave them unlinked so it's a consistent black text

5:23 PM
too much of a hassle to fix

Whoever said we should go for the record.. we're 13 off XD

well, cmon guys, keep going :P

13 off what?

most clues in a day

1 hour later…
6:30 PM
"Somebody was faster again!"

for CCCC i'm guessing reeled in is def, and you insert letters in game
trying to find them

6:50 PM
Data or Data?
Route or Route?
Caramel or Caramel?
Either or Either?
Neither or Neither?

i always say dAta where you say the a like if you were saying the single letter
i say root and carmel
EEEther, but NAYther
the last two aren't the same meaning when pronouced differently?

♫ let's call the whole thing off ♫

:P

6:54 PM
lol

Dayta, r-owt?, care-a-mel, nyether

agree with dayta, rowt sounds weird to me, care-a-mel sounds stupid
can't understand nyether lol

I don't understand nayther
all I know is neether and nyether

I say "PUZZling", but everyone else says "crippling addiction that's destroying your life"
8

@paramesis that is correct. :P

7:01 PM
so true

@n_palum Toilet paper: under or over?

over. forever over

good, I don't have to suspend you

But... if saying under gets someone suspended... Hey @Rubio I bet you're an under kinda guy

Someone at work keeps putting it under, and I have to fix it every time

7:10 PM
lol

work out who it is and report them

@Deusovi this sounds like more effort than it's worth

in fact just call the emergency services. this is a definite emergency

Excuse you, this is clearly a very important issue.

why would it be under anyway?

7:12 PM
I agree that over is superior to under, but enforcing your view upon the workforce seems excessive

Isn't it always over?

I think Deus sees it less as "enforcing your view upon the workforce" and more as... "enforcing justice upon those who haven't found the path of righteousness"

this conversation should be over

guess what? it isn't

as should toilet roll

7:13 PM
It's quite the underwhelming conversation
but it is a Monday (yawns)

@n_palum Well obviously. :P

@Sid If you have young children, you know the answer to this question.

(when I say "someone keeps putting it under", I mean it's happened twice within the past two weeks and that's it)

What happens when you keep spinning the roll toward you when it's over vs. under?

7:15 PM
@GentlePurpleRain ... Nope. No kids. Don't intend to have any soon either. :P

To most that is two too many times.

@Sid Sorry, meant that in the sense of "if one has young children".

gpr you do know sid is like y age right? :P

What is y? IS THIS A PUZZLE?

lmao

7:16 PM
y = age of Sid

My keyboard 'm' is faulty

I think you young'ns spend way more time thinking about other people's ages than we do

wait gerbil is 14

@Sconibulus I always forget you're not a young'n

7:17 PM
But seriously, after a kid unrolls the entire roll by spinning it a few times, one starts putting the paper under, to save sanity.

I'm kinda in the middle I think

You're not supposed to do that? @GentlePurpleRain

what is this sanity you talk about and how important is it

@Sconibulus you old guys, have too much work to do anyway. :P

under thirty, but out of school :)

7:18 PM
@thecoder16 so is mith (and I think Sid)

mith is 14? woah

That's not that old!

@BeastlyGerbil I am like 4 years older than you or something..

i don't pay attention to this stuff

@Sconibulus Oh, you're a young 'un too... ;)

7:19 PM
Pretty sure Mith is like 16 or so, Sid around 18, BG is 14 IIRC
^^

mith is my age
slightly older bt 75% of the time my age

I'm 22 in a month and have a year left of school - @Sconibulus you don't get to call me a young'n when you're under 30 :P

i'm pretty sure i mentioned my age somewhere, i'm not sure though

you were at the upper border of the age/parentage obsessed group :)
(I'm 28, in case anyone really cares)

7:21 PM
i'm fairly sure no one cares

Fairly != 100%... it's not = Y either

@Rubio's pretty old, definitely over 30, and that is really old for a dog :P
4

no, apparently y = 14

in dog years? :P

Are you definitely sure about that?

7:22 PM
ssssh....

I was too slow dang

I know for a fact though that Rubio and Gareth make me look illiterate. So, they must definitely be old (and as some people say... wise)

Rubio and Gareth make everyone look illiterate.

Jun 22 at 14:01, by thecoder16
arguing with gareth about words is like trying to cut diamond with a wooden saw. if you cut anywhere deep, it will be into your own skin.

I never pegged Rubio for being as old as you say

7:24 PM
True. Playing Contact with them is always interesting.

who cares about age though? We all know we are going to spend the rest of our lives addicted to this site :P

@BeastlyGerbil well, once you enter college you might think differently :P

@BeastlyGerbil Times are ever changing

@thecoder16 Assuming Beastly is planning to go to college...

thats true

7:27 PM
Do people plan to not go to college?

Sure they do

yeah

yeah I am - or university as I call it :P

I've got a friend who never went
He's a mechanic

Hey thats still like 5/6 years away

7:28 PM
be a silicon valley guy and start your own company

5/6? Hmm I started College/Uni at 18

that will surely go bankrupt in about a year

I thought high school ended worldwide at 17 or 18..

or a serious route, go to trade school to study a craft of your choice

yeah actually its 4 years

7:29 PM
or join the military and plan to get free college from that

@Sid That's about what it is.. I was old for my year.. most of my friends are turning 21 this year, I'm almost 22

any game, anyone?

@thecoder16 I think that is only in the US.

fair enough

@thecoder16 I might be convinced to do some Codenames...

7:32 PM
need at least 2 moar

sorry I'm out - working on solving something

Try raising your hand in Codenames. See who shows up...

if it's one of those grid-deduction hybrids, wow they're tough

I'd play but I leave work in 10 minutes

But do you have to leave work...?
You could stick around until the game is done... :)

7:34 PM
I mean... I've been here for 8 hours so I'd like to leave

@Sconibulus no, I can't solve those :P (Except for yours) A certain bounty has enticed me

boo. Greedy gerbil. :P

lol

its what the bounty is for :P

@n_palum for the record, I'm staunchly an OVER guy

7:37 PM
Dang I thought we had an opportunity there

'Oh no! Something's wrong with PSE' - yes, Rubio hasn't been banned yet :P — Beastly Gerbil Jun 23 at 15:08
:P

so apparently I'm definitely over 30 huh.

I think so IIRC

I need to start a list of things "known" about me.

I said no
Afaik, Rubio is similar stance to Scon

7:41 PM
Point 1. "You are a dog."

0

How to decode the above poem lines encryption for its title?

btw @BeastlyGerbil are you trying the maze creation or the other bounty?

maze

@BeastlyGerbil I don't think there's anything to remember. I can't absolutely swear to it but I don't think I've ever said (or really even hinted at) my age.

I have a vague idea for the maze :P

7:42 PM
really? maybe I'm confusing you with someone else...

My guesses for age are mostly observations about other things

Yeah, I don't remember Rubio saying anything about his age either.

I won't dump everything I think I remember, but I am really good at remembering information about people when they talk about themselves

I know for a fact though that Rubio loves Windows. :P

@Sid More for the file. ;)

8:02 PM
Ugh, Mathjax is enabled in comments?

Nope

@Rubio you did a transcription, here you go:
~**%$262~97223 158!~$2815\$@!&@@523
~%@3374542522^&!!663324~!~%
It definitely mathjaxed some of my numbers

Oh I'm sorta doing that now

it's Webdings

8:03 PM
But with the decimals

yes, mathjax is enabled in comments
the fact that they're in between <> is suspicious

I put it in <> just to make it clear what was each line

oh

the raw stuff is up there

8:04 PM
...I should've realized that :P

incidentally, that row at the top is 26 characters
so there's probably a pretty encoding

which puzzle is this?

126 42 42 37 36 50 96 54 50 126 49 57 55 50 50 51
49 53 56 33 126 36 50 56 49 53 36 64 33 38 64 64 53 50 51
126 37 64 51 51 55 52 53 52 50 53 50 50 94 38 33 33 54 54 51 51 50 52 126 33 126 37
decimals for it ^
nothing in ascii
as shown by scon

...well, yeah. that's just converting from ascii to decimal and back

point taken

8:09 PM
nvv doesn't look promising

Is this some part of some puzzle?

2

How to decode the above poem lines encryption for its title?

Curious... Does anyone know what "How to decode the above poem lines encryption for its title" means in English?

nope

8:11 PM
I don't understand the question..

he isn't a native english speaker

I think you're supposed to figure out what the title's words mean

most of their puzzles read like that

@BeastlyGerbil I got that. But I don't actually understand it at all. Aside from the fact that they want to know how to decode it.

8:11 PM
LETS and more?

no, the title's words are just the first few ciphertext characters

What does the "title" part of the question mean?

In the regular ASCII, all characters are either digits or symbols that can be typed with Shift + digit on a US keyboard, with the exception of the tilde.

Not a clue.

I assume using the full ciphertext you can figure out how the encoding works, and then supply the plaintext for just the title as the puzzle's solution

8:13 PM
(But the tilde is shift + backtick, which also features.)

@MOehm Yup - I tried decoding as 1-0 --> A-J, !-) --> K-T, but no luck

quipqiup just giggles at you

nvvsrcagcnjhccd is the translation from symbolrow to letterrow
(for the top line)

Maybe Q-P and A-L or some such. After all, the keyboard must be a hint.

I can't make anything fun happen with several tries

8:14 PM
one of quipqiup's options is OG GRUNTS NOW K ... which sounds like a caveman asking permission to speak

I was wondering if it's a "add N to ascii, handle rollovers via insert rule here" thing

(probably not the answer, just amusing)

There are 13 keys on the top row of my keyboard:  to =. If they are A-M, and then shifted, N-Z (or something similar) that would make sense.

I'd considered something like that too. It'd be weird for L/M to not appear though.

But not unthinkable. The ciphertext isn't that long.

8:19 PM
I couldn't make anything out of it
of course my key may have been dumb
tried wingdings, webdings, dings, symbols, code, cipher, encrypt, decrypt, and a bunch of ceaser shifts

@GentlePurpleRain - that's AIIFEPNTPAWUPPQ OSVBAEPVOSECBHCCSPQ AFCQQURSRPSPPGHBBTTQQPRABAF or NVVSRCAGCNJHCCD BFIONRCIBFRPOUPPFCD NSPDDHEFECFCCTUOOGGDDCENONS, depending on which half you take shifted characters to be
neither of which looks particularly promising

Apparently the OP is looking for the Title of the Poem.

Jabberwock!

And they hint that a movie is made out of it.
which means we probably have something famous as the title

a movie from a poem?
or a book with a poem

8:23 PM
movies from poems aren't that uncommon
The Iliad, Beowulf, Horton Hears a Hoo

Horton Hears a Who is not a poem; it's a story that just happens to rhyme.

I guess you could argue the same about the Iliad and Beowulf.

and the movie was awful

I'm reasonably certain Beowulf is considered Poetry, less certain but still convinced about The Iliad, and Horton Hears a Who seems to fit in the same family, if an entirely different billing

8:28 PM
lol

9:05 PM
@Sid By "popular demand" I now have created a list of things "known" about me in my profile. Also, "sightings". I feel like I'm missing a pic that was posted of "me", probably by @n_palum, but I can't find it now.... if someone knows where it was, I'll add it too.

The dog one?

One of them

You have the white dog one

I thought you'd posted another

I still believe you're under 30

9:13 PM
Everyone needs to believe something.
I believe it's time for a Diet Coke w/Lime.

heh

That was a line borrowed from WC Fields. Rubio, I am your secret admirer but, pssst, don't tell anyone.

@humn 's the word.

And it gets around! Doctors are still searching for a cure.

Yup. With kind of a wiggle thing going on near the southeast, though.

9:18 PM
Dumb's the word.

Jun 23 at 14:08, by n_palum
Rubio's a gothic who only wears bright pink black shirts.

What a medley!
Now I'm reaching for my monkey. To replace that kitten on the keyboard who keeps punching out what I'd never.

\o/ Hum(our)n!

9:36 PM
Laughter from those lucky enough! (oooooo, every day another I know fails the tickle test... oooooooo(
You haven't lived until you've watched somone go contrariwise. Too often. That's why I mirth.
(remove at will)

And I'll continue to Mith.

Chime in! Heavy.
Some of what I put out is truly inspired. Most is a reflection of my guiding lights.
Looks like another platitude but needed to be typed
That was a roundabout thank you to my present lodestones. You know who you are.
Yeah, you! You're welcome.

9:54 PM
That's what I end up listening to at 1AM. For some reason.

What just happened? Made me jump:

@Rubio do you have done any experiments to confirm this? maybe it's just that the age of the CCCC informative post is increasing

ffao, I'm so fascinated by fffayou. Then again, takes much less to achieve that effect.

Anecdotal. It used to be, I think, that at least two people, including one mod (probably Deus), would pin the CCCC-explanation message, while the latest CCCC would be pinned by usually just one person, most often a RO
whatever the circumstances, that was enough to keep the explanation as message 1, and the current clue as 2
Recently, the explanation has been appearing below the current clue.
Right now it's on top because two mods pinned it, but my expectation is that as it ages, it'll drop back to #2 again.

@humn I get emotional when the hour is strange occasionally.

10:02 PM
@GentlePurpleRain Thank you - added to profile, and the "known facts" list no longer is [citation needed]

And you, @Mithrandir, I've almost exhausted my bag of tricks to get you to play along. So grateful.

I'm pretty sure Sid has said I love windows before today, but I can't find it. (If some search sleuth locates it lemme know)

@humn I've got one more before I drop off into the sea of dreams:

:) before today

@Mithrandir , pleasant ones, sweet dreamer.

10:57 PM
Just reiterating off ffao commenting, there are no longer ROs here - only mods

Today I learned that PSE is run by children. And a dog.

Erm.. two of them are parents.. ergo not children

Everyone is someone's child. Parents are children of grandparents.

Well I guess so

I did chuckle at the line about a "gothic" wearing bright pink shirts.

11:25 PM
if PSE weren't run by children, it wouldn't be the fun welcoming community it is.
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