TeX, LaTeX and Friends

Frrank

12:39 AM

HI everyone
is anyone here works on flask and know dir structure?

Zophikel

1:13 AM

anyone know why this isn't rederning

$$\int_{a}^{b}u(x)v'(x)dx[u(x)v(x)]^{b}_{a}-\int_{a}^{b}u'(x)v(x)dx = u(b)v(b)-u(a)v(a)-\int_{a}^{b}u'(x)v(x)dx$$

                     ^ Tried everything :(

Alan Munn

@Zophikel Apart from the fact that you shouldn't use $$ in LaTeX (use \[ ... \] or \begin{equation}...\end{equation} what's the problem. Or are you talking about not rendering here on the site? If the latter, we don't have that turned on here.

Zophikel

@Alan I mean on mathb.in

Alan Munn

@Zophikel Oh, then I have no idea. Since MathJax isn't actually LaTeX it's not something that we deal with on the site.

Zophikel

@Alan you know an online pastebin for latex :) I may have to switch to that

Alan Munn

@Zophikel There are two very good online editors for LaTeX: ShareLaTeX and Overleaf.

Zophikel

1:20 AM

@Alan i'll have to switch to those platforms mathb.in is :(

crap

Alan Munn

@Zophikel Well they're designed for different tasks, so maybe not a fair comparison. What's odd is your expression should render I would have thought.

Zophikel

@Alan it should have rendered

Alan Munn

@Zophikel It fails at the second \int

Zophikel

@Alan how would you fix it

Alan Munn

@Zophikel Take away the {} around the \int sub and superscripts:

$$\int_a^bu(x)v'(x)dx[u(x)v(x)]^b_a-\int_a^bu'(x)v(x)dx = u(b)v(b)-u(a)v(a)-\int_a^bu'(x)v(x)dx$$

Zophikel

1:28 AM

ahh ok

Alan Munn

@Zophikel Which further shows how MathJax ain't LaTeX. :)

Zophikel

@Alan guess i'll have to learn some mathjax :)

Alan Munn

The braces should be fine, but for some reason, they're not. I don't use MathJax so I don't know any details, I just tried successive chunks of the expression until it failed.

@Zophikel But now I just put them in and it works?

$$\int_{a}^{b}u(x)v'(x)dx[u(x)v(x)]^b_a-\int_{a}^{b}u'(x)v(x)dx = u(b)v(b)-u(a)v(a)-\int_{a}^{b}u'(x)v(x)dx$$

@Zophikel Not quite, it's not the \int that's the problem, it's the double scripts after the ] I think.

Zophikel

ahh ok

David Carlisle

6:42 AM

@PauloCereda vvvv ?

@DavidCarlisle I don't think arara looks automatically in texmf-local for rules (not sure though.) — Alan Munn 21 mins ago

Moriambar

9:09 AM

@barbarabeeton the only problem with the new "reputationless task" you described yesterday is that I have a limited amount of flags per day, so I can only close that many questions using the frequent posts as you said

egreg

9:36 AM

@Zophikel I think they're using a bogus MathJax. Even elementary things that do work on Math.SX don't work on that site.

Paulo Cereda

10:01 AM

@DavidCarlisle Alan is correct, arara does not look in texmf-local and the reason for that is: since the tool could be installed as standalone as well, I didn't want it to look in folders other than its own. I could make it automatically look in the local TeX tree, but I do believe it would be safer to include the full path in the configuration file. At the end of the day, it would behave the same. :)

Paulo Cereda

10:18 AM

@CarLaTeX: Thanks for trying out arara!

CarLaTeX

@PauloCereda I think this could be a useful comment to my question: tex.stackexchange.com/q/375841/101651. Please add it under it!

Paulo Cereda

@CarLaTeX okee-dokee

@CarLaTeX done

CarLaTeX

@PauloCereda I love arara: it's so convenient! You can use it with any editor without worrying about how to compile with that specific editor!

Paulo Cereda

@CarLaTeX awww than you!

CarLaTeX

@PauloCereda Thank you!

Paulo Cereda

10:23 AM

@CarLaTeX <3

arara 4.0 is even cooler!

CarLaTeX

@PauloCereda I'm looking forward to using it!

yo'

@DavidCarlisle I think I get your point

SBM

Hello

Paulo Cereda

@CarLaTeX Which editor do you use?

SBM

@CarLaTeX arara?

googled it

@PauloCereda Looks really interesting.

CarLaTeX

10:31 AM

@PauloCereda Mainly TeXstudio but I've got also TeXworks and TeXnicCenter or even Notepad++. I'm learning Emacs and I'd like to learn Vim, too.

Paulo Cereda

@SBM thanks!

@CarLaTeX Cool! I will need your insight when I write about editors!

SBM

@PauloCereda guess I'll need to install Maven first because till now I only used Gradle and that too rarely

Paulo Cereda

@SBM Why? You don't need to build the tool, the .jar's are already available. :) Unless you want to try the dev version. :)

SBM

Oh

@PauloCereda great

@PauloCereda I haven't learnt Emacs yet so will try to use it with vim and I guess I'll also use your suggestion from earlier

Paulo Cereda

@SBM arara is not for everyone, as it requires a strict workflow definition, but it might be useful sometimes.

SBM

10:46 AM

@PauloCereda for what use is it targeted at specifically?

Paulo Cereda

@SBM When you need to run a sequence of commands. :)

@cfr: cwac! <3

@AlanMunn: (just to tease people here) the item was already obtained. :)

Alan Munn

@PauloCereda Muito bom.

Paulo Cereda

@AlanMunn A águia pousou. :)

egreg

11:03 AM

@sbm Suppose for some reason you need to use the latex+dvips+ps2pdf route; it's much easier to prefix you document with

% arara: latex
% arara: dvips
% arara: ps2pdf

and call arara filename so the three steps are performed automatically.

Paulo Cereda

If you have a predefined workflow, you can create a custom preamble and invoke arara on a file without directives with arara -P mypreamble myfile.tex

I think it's P.

CarLaTeX

@PauloCereda I'll be happy if I can help you!

Paulo Cereda

@CarLaTeX Thank you!

cfr

@PauloCereda A chwac? Cwacio!

Paulo Cereda

@cfr How are you? And Lucy? :)

@cfr: will you come for TUG 2018? Please please pretty please with sugar on top!

SBM

11:10 AM

great

CarLaTeX

@SBM It's very convenient if you have to do multiple run, for example instead of run pdflatex, biber, pdflatex, pdflatex you can put % arara: pdflatex

Paulo Cereda

@JosephWright: youtu.be/hqsgD8lKcjY?t=36 HELLOOOOOO EVERYBODYYYYYYY

I will try to invite Brian Blessed for the TUG conference. :)

CarLaTeX

@SBM ... % arara: biber

Joseph Wright

@PauloCereda Did you see they are making another 117 episodes! I'm waiting for my niece (currently 10 months) to start watching ...

Paulo Cereda

@JosephWright Really? Yay!

CarLaTeX

11:14 AM

@SBM % arara: pdflatex and % arara: pdflatex at the top of your code and run only arara

Paulo Cereda

Got me a Nintendo Switch!

mickep

Hi! A quick one: Typesetting points with coordinates, is $P:(1,2,3)$ or $P\colon(1,2,3)$ prefered/standard?

yo'

11:32 AM

@mickep I would personally go with $P=(1,2,3)$, but if you instist on a colon then certainly $P\colon(1,2,3)$

SBM

@CarLaTeX quite useful I se

mickep

@yo' Thanks! I certainly do not insist, it is just the way I grew up with. :)

@yo' OK, now I have looked in some (swedish) books on the subject, and I'd say it is 50-50. Then I think I go with your suggestion. Thanks again.

cfr

12:19 PM

@barbarabeeton If you have a minute, could you take a look at my answer

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A: Ugly alignment (size of square root symbol) with Latin Modern at 12pt

This modifies the font configuration for Latin Modern in a way which I think is analogous to the modifications amsmath.sty makes for Computer Modern. It is not exactly analogous because Computer Modern provides additional sizes of the maths extension font, whereas Latin Modern provides only 10pt....

as I'm not at all sure about what I've suggested here. In particular, I've substituted lmex10 everywhere amsmath uses cmexN, regardless of N, as lmex10 is all there is. But I'm not at all sure this is in any way safe.

barbara beeton

@Moriambar -- that is a problem, but everyone has a limit to the number of flags per day. how about treating the exercise like "answer the unanswered", and announce here in the chat that something needs a vote? if you leave a comment on the question saying what the proposed duplicate is, that (i think) will also trigger a check by the system scan that puts a question into the review queue, so others will notice it. anyhow, bravo for taking on the challenge!

Moriambar

@barbarabeeton thanks. I figure that that's probably the best way I can help the community. Otherwise, believe me, I feel useless 98% the time I am here

David Carlisle

12:34 PM

@PauloCereda you can answer the question then:-)

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle Alan already did. :)

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda learn from @egreg, ticks are for stealing

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Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle ooh

David Carlisle

@mickep I wouldn't recognise the colon syntax (although I could guess the meaning from context)

mickep

@DavidCarlisle I just discussed with some colleagues here at the department in Lund, and the people from Lund prefered the syntax with colon, and the other ones of us are more used to the =. I will go with =.

daleif

12:47 PM

@mickep That is strange, I've never seen the $P:(coords)$ syntax in a Danish textbook. I'll ask our resident Swede.

mickep

daleif: I just asked our resident Dane :D (he has been to long here in Lund, so he liked the colon variant)

Paulo Cereda

1:09 PM

ooh don't annoy the Swedes.

egreg

1:21 PM

@PauloCereda They might send you this one:

Paulo Cereda

@egreg OH MY

The UK Brexit negotiation team https://t.co/kiQNfVnQG1

Tweeted by JohnCleese on June 20, 2017 at 11:39 AM

mickep

lol!

Paulo Cereda

egreg

@PauloCereda Worse, they could force you to see the whole set of Bergman's movies in a row.

Paulo Cereda

@egreg NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

daleif

1:27 PM

@mickep Couldn't find the swede, so asked someone else. He had not seen it either. Exactly which field of math is this syntax from? He mentioned that this might be related to Euclid.

Paulo Cereda

@daleif ooh Swedes are hidding

daleif

@PauloCereda exam period

mickep

@daleif I've seen it in our first calculus and linear algebra books. In fact, the retired professor who wrote the linear algebra book we use showed up on coffee, so I asked him. He said that it was to distinguish points and vectors, but he could not remember if he made that up himself or if he had seen it somewhere.

egreg

@PauloCereda By the way, Bergman’s “The magic flute” is beautiful.

Paulo Cereda

@daleif ah!

daleif

1:29 PM

@mickep I'll ask the guy who teaches our Lin Alg

mickep

@daleif Thanks. I'll have to go now. Will show up later.

Paulo Cereda

Ihr seid Piraten!

Lazytown pirate song in german

►

^^ that bloke has not a parrot in his shoulder, that's an arara!

ooh free advertising!

daleif

@mickep He had never heard of it either. Though he could see the advantage under some circumstances.

David Carlisle

1:46 PM

@PauloCereda that's why you have more arara users in Germany

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle ooh

5

Shakespeare was a man ahead of his time.

egreg

2:22 PM

@PauloCereda To connect or not to connect?

Paulo Cereda

@egreg ooh :)

Ulrike Fischer

@PauloCereda Today macbeth in kantonese: shakespeare-festival.de/de/programm/2017/macbeth--716. Will be interesting ;-)

Joseph Wright

@UlrikeFischer Not in the original Klingon?

Ulrike Fischer

@JosephWright ;-)

Paulo Cereda

@UlrikeFischer ooh!

mickep

2:39 PM

@daleif Thanks for asking.

Joseph Wright

3:03 PM

@DavidCarlisle See TL list

Alan Munn

3:30 PM

@PauloCereda I'm suspicious of this. It seems more like something Bacon or Marlowe would have said.

Paulo Cereda

@AlanMunn should we cry havoc? :)

@AlanMunn Also, what would Brian Boitano do? (YAPM, I believe?)

Alan Munn

@PauloCereda Hey, I'm Canadian, of course I know who Brian Boitano is, although I don't have a clue what he would do...

@PauloCereda Speaking of YAPM, did you get my Bacon and Marlowe joke?

Paulo Cereda

@AlanMunn It's about Shakespeare being them? :)

egreg

What Would Brian Boitano Do?

"What Would Brian Boitano Do?" is a song from the 1999 film South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut written by South Park co-creator Trey Parker and composer Marc Shaiman. In the song Olympic and professional figure skater Brian Boitano is treated lyrically as a superhero in a series of increasingly ludicrous situations. The title of the absurdist song is a parody of the evangelical Christian motto "What Would Jesus Do?" == Background == Olympic and professional figure skater Brian Boitano is a recurring figure in the animated television series South Park, which debuted in 1997. In actuality the use...

Paulo Cereda

@egreg I was going to link the song! :)

Beware, there's cursing, after all, it's South Park: youtube.com/watch?v=sNJmfuEWR8w

Alan Munn

3:36 PM

@egreg Ah, South Park. Always blaming Canada.

@PauloCereda Yes. :)

Paulo Cereda

@AlanMunn That particular movie is based entirely on blaming Canada. :)

@AlanMunn ooh you are naughty

egreg

@AlanMunn Everybody should blame Canada: you gave us Justin Bieber, for instance.

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Paulo Cereda

@egreg LOL

Alan Munn

@egreg You are not qualified to pass judgement on such things.

Paulo Cereda

#YouMightBeCanadianIf you hold the door open for 5 people and get 8 thank yous

Tweeted by MadelnCanada on June 14, 2017 at 11:55 PM

@AlanMunn ^^ <3

Alan Munn

3:39 PM

@egreg Although I do admit we gave you Nickelback.

@PauloCereda Or someone steps on your foot, and you both say "sorry".

Paulo Cereda

@AlanMunn ooh :)

David Carlisle

@egreg but they gave us Hawaiian pizza so it's not all bad

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Alan Munn

@DavidCarlisle Well played, well played.

Paulo Cereda

@AlanMunn: I might take @egreg to a pagode and he will suddenly find a bigger menace than JB. :)

Alan Munn

@PauloCereda Oh yes. There are many menaces worse than JB for sure.

David Carlisle

3:42 PM

@JosephWright space

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle the final frontier

Paulo Cereda

@JosephWright oi I was going to write that!

Spooky!

Halo 5

David Carlisle

@JosephWright the last straw might be a more apt quotation

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle :)

@DavidCarlisle Frank doesn't seem quite so annoyed

yo'

@AlanMunn but not if you're québécois (at least that's my experience)

David Carlisle

3:47 PM

@JosephWright he's not updating graphics every day:-) (but then, neither am I)

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle don't annoy the Germans

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle :)

@DavidCarlisle \G@space I think it is

@DavidCarlisle Or \kernel@space

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda Petra?

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle I'm not 100% sure I agree with his assessment: lots of things rely on \space being an actual space

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle oh I never talked to her, I might have to ask for help when deploying arara 4.0, I forgot how I did that in the first place!

David Carlisle

3:48 PM

@JosephWright well define in the format ( but then also needs to be in miniltx) or in graphics/color ?

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle Probably as I said in graphics as \G@space, and at least at present also needs to be in the .def files themselves

David Carlisle

@JosephWright yes but then needs to be in color as well but whatever (so we could just do it in the def files)

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle Really? Can you get to (e.g.) \Gscale@start if graphics is not loaded?

@DavidCarlisle I guess for the page colour command?

David Carlisle

but \ifGPT@pagecolor
\pdfliteral page{%
q % gsave
\current@page@color\space

@JosephWright yes as it turns out, although more just because I didn't want to have to check every use of \space was only used by graphics

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle Yes, I'd just found that, though I'm not sure this one can be hit by the issue at hand (I guess though safest to avoid all of them)

@DavidCarlisle :)

David Carlisle

3:55 PM

@JosephWright I think just define it in the def files for now.

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle \GPT@space then?

David Carlisle

@JosephWright I suppose that's consistent

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle Check-in coming up

Alan Munn

@yo' That's true. The Canadian politeness thing is more of an Anglo thing. Not that the québécois are particularly impolite, but they don't really overdo it.

yo'

@AlanMunn well, the ones I met in France still seemed quite polite, but not nearly as much as the British people.

Alan Munn

4:07 PM

@yo' Yes, I'm sure. After all, they are still Canadian. (Even if they try to deny it...)

yo'

@AlanMunn well, at least they play hockey, that's for sure.

Moriambar

@yo' I agree that I never found anyone as polite as the British people I met

yo'

@Moriambar if speaking about nations and not about individduals, then yes.

Alan Munn

@Moriambar That's what they want you to think. :) buzzfeed.com/lukelewis/…

Moriambar

4:23 PM

@AlanMunn well this is no different in what I see and hear everyday at work

yo'

@PauloCereda Got a technical problem with my PC. My mouse moves, but the system does not register any clicks, doubleclicks, wheel movement, etc. Any idea what that could cause? It's not the first time this has happened :-(

Is there any way how to diagnose this?

Paulo Cereda

@yo' Oh my, what's your window management? Gnome?

yo'

mate

acutally, one thing is that the system is not quite up to date, but that shouldn't cause this

and also things like Alt+Space for window menu stopped working

and now everything is back to normal, without any trace of what was causing it :-/ Exactly like the other times

Paulo Cereda

@yo' Tom, sorry for asking this, but I must: have you considered a hardware issue? E.g, a faulty mouse...

Oh keyboard also had problems.

Try a system update. I once had a problem in my Fedora setup (mouse/keyboard) that was only solved by a system update. Which OS version are you using at the moment?

yo'

@PauloCereda when it happens, it happens for all the mouses I have available, rats included.

Paulo Cereda

4:38 PM

@yo' oh!

yo'

@PauloCereda don't even ask: 20

Paulo Cereda

@yo' Would you be mad at me if I tell you you should definitely upgrade? :)

yo'

@PauloCereda I know this, but it's not at all that simple I'm afraid. I never seem to find a week or two when I could potentially miss a computer if something went seriously wrong during an update. I have the same (actually even bigger) fear with the Windows that are installed here, with this shitty W10 thingy.

Paulo Cereda

@yo' Understood, pal.

samcarter

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The duck that helped to discover the Higgs (from the Atlas control room at Cern)

Paulo Cereda

4:43 PM

@samcarter OOOOOH

samcarter

@PauloCereda The proof that ducks are very smart :)

Paulo Cereda

@samcarter ooh

samcarter

@PauloCereda Now I'd like to see your next message consisting of -1 "o" followed by 1 "h" (so far it seems you reduce it by 3 o's each time)

Paulo Cereda

@samcarter "ooh"[-3:]

percusse

5:04 PM

Can I has some off-topic hate on this one ?

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Q: How to synthesize this python function

I am trying to make a code more compact. I think there is a part that can be nicely reduced but am not sure how to do it. I put a comment inside the code copied below for you to find it fast. The code is the next one: def change_to_mop_gen(infile, namedir="",charge=0, gnorm=None, separate=True,...

python

oh nevermind

already moved

Thanks @JosephWright probably it will get some go to code review.SE hate over there :)

By the way @PauloCereda check this out if you would ever needed stackoverflow.com/questions/40694380 I finally got an answer

Well actually asked in the NumPy mailing list :)

Paulo Cereda

@percusse Fantastic! And damn those meta thingies!

@percusse: I took an spartan approach. My thesis code is being written in Lua!

percusse

Turns out you need to adjust a TeX-like badness coefficient :)

Paulo Cereda

@percusse: also twitter.com/paulocereda/status/876420672683167745

percusse

I've set everything to badass

Paulo Cereda

@percusse ooh

percusse

5:11 PM

@PauloCereda ooh indeed

egreg

@DavidCarlisle Nice code in a class, I'm sure you'll appreciate it

Paulo Cereda

\setbadass=neildegrassetyson

egreg

\def\cl@chapter{%
  \setcounter{chaptercitecount}{0}%
  \if@sequential%
    \@elt{section}\@elt{footnote}%
  \else%
    \@elt{equation}\@elt{figure}\@elt{footnote}\@elt{section}\@elt{table}%
  \fi}

Paulo Cereda

@percusse you better come to the meeting

percusse

@PauloCereda I'm going to Vietnam Cambodia Laos Thailand in august ;)

I'll try if I'll survive that

Paulo Cereda

5:12 PM

@percusse bah get a shotgun first :)

@percusse lots of beaches wink wink nudge nudge say no more

percusse

!!PSmith choose {hpv, hiv, surprise me}

Paulo Cereda

@percusse Bot says: Life is like a box of chocolates.

percusse

The computer says NO!

Paulo Cereda

@percusse what's that, a Prolog terminal? :)

percusse

@PauloCereda probably some switch to ffmpeg...

Paulo Cereda

5:17 PM

@percusse LOL

percusse

Yesterday I've written an ffmpeg instruction that goes 6 lines. And then I get flamed when I say terminals are stupid

It takes 60 lines to write a GUI with tickboxes and radio buttons instead

Paulo Cereda

@percusse :)

@percusse Adobe Premiere

:D

percusse

I have a friend who says, mobile app gesture developers develop code using the terminal. No wonder software sucks

:)

Paulo Cereda

@percusse haha

percusse

oh, gotta run. catch you later

yo'

5:31 PM

Got some English texts from 1910's and I start to understand the disclaimer in the e-version about the "use of expressions which were current at the time".

Joseph Wright

5:58 PM

@DavidCarlisle \GPT@space fix off to CTAN

Sha Vuklia

Guys, I'm trying to understand the following command:

\documentclass[journal]{IEEEtran}
\usepackage{amssymb, amsmath, amsthm, amsfonts}

\usepackage{showframe} % just to show the margins

\newtheorem{thm}{Theorem}

%% define a \killproofname command that works with both
%% IEEEtran.cls version 1.7a or version 1.8
\makeatletter
\@ifclasslater{IEEEtran}{2012/12/26}
{\newcommand{\killproofname}{\unskip\nopunct}}
{\newcommand{\killproofname}[1]{\unskip\aftergroup\ignorespaces\ignorespaces}}
\makeatother

\begin{document}
\begin{proof}[\killproofname]
We will use induction to prove this theorem.

what I'm trying to do is remove the word "proof" from the proof environment

I already found this on the site:

\documentclass{article}
\usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
\usepackage{amsmath,amsthm}
\usepackage{mathtools}
\begin{document}
Test
\begin{proof}[\unskip\nopunct]
\begin{align*}
\overline{\alpha\cdot\beta}&=\overline{(a+bi)(c+di)}=\overline{(ac-bd)+(bc+ad)i}=(ac-bd)-(bc+ad)i\\
\overline\alpha\cdot\overline\beta&=\overline{a+bi}\cdot\overline{c+di}=(a-bi)(c-di)=(ac-bd)-(bc+ad)i
\end{align*}
\end{proof}
\end{document}

however, if I just use [\unskip\nopunct], then an extra line remains (where initially the word proof was)

so that isn't working for me

however, I don't understand why in this first bit of tex I posted, we have two commands for \killproofname

why wouldn't one command be enough?

and apparently I need the following stuff too:

\makeatletter

\@ifclasslater{IEEEtran}{2012/12/26}

oh well, maybe I should just google it all

but it just looks all way too complex just to remove a single word...

egreg

@ShaVuklia I see no extra line

Joseph Wright

@ShaVuklia There will have been a change in the class file, meaning it needs a different fix in the two versions

Sha Vuklia

@egreg well this example is actually one where you were involved too

and in the comments you said you saw no extra line

while the OP did have an extra line

egreg

@ShaVuklia I have IEEEtran 2015/08/26 V1.8b

Sha Vuklia

6:05 PM

well I just use sharelatex

shouldn't that be updated?

egreg

@ShaVuklia You start the proof with align: that's the source of the extra line.

Sha Vuklia

really?

let me see

oh yea I see

without align it works indeed

but I need align, hm

Paulo Cereda

Let me go buy some bread. Ducks need bread. :)

Sha Vuklia

okay so

if I first write a bit of text

and thén use align

it's alright

egreg

@ShaVuklia Proofs without words are nice, if they just consist of an interesting drawing. Otherwise they're bad.

Sha Vuklia

6:08 PM

Well these are just notes for myself in my book

so they're not intended to be actual "proof-proofs"

egreg

@ShaVuklia So don't worry about space. ;-)

Sha Vuklia

but I liked the little proof sign in the corner

lol but I do @egreg

but it's solved now!

I just have to insert some bit of text

thanks for the help:)

barbara beeton

@PauloCereda -- bread is bad for ducks! they may like it, but it's not a good addition to their diet.

Sha Vuklia

feed them what "they like", @Paulo ;)

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Paulo Cereda

@barbarabeeton oh :(

@ShaVuklia ooh lettuce

yo'

6:25 PM

@barbarabeeton well, it is not a good addition to our diet either :-/

barbara beeton

@yo' -- well, the good stuff, in moderation. (i'm quite partial to roggenbrot -- very dark, very lumpy pumpernickel.)

yo'

@barbarabeeton ah well, the problem is in flour and yeast, these two things carry zero additional value, and actually are quite acid.

Paulo Cereda

@barbarabeeton I bought milk bread! :)

Moriambar

Is it bad to expand on another user comment after a month has passed and (s)he's been asked but did not deliver?

barbara beeton

6:41 PM

@Moriambar -- check to see when that user was last seen. if not seen recently, i'd go ahead and expand.

Moriambar

@barbarabeeton last seen 25 minutes ago. So how should I proceed to make a question answered, since he's around?

barbara beeton

@Moriambar -- post another comment directed at him/her, requesting that existing comment be turned into answer (if that's true). if no response in a couple of days, "poach" the answer that's in the comment, but if you really want to be super-scrupulous, you could post it as community wiki and point to the commenter's comment.

Moriambar

@barbarabeeton Ok fine, the user has already been poked about it. I'll do it again

egreg

7:22 PM

@AlanMunn Beethoven’s Triple Concerto played by D. Oistrakh, M. Rostropovich and S. Richter. :)

Alan Munn

@egreg I think I used to have that recording.

Moriambar

@egreg have you ever listened to Rostropovich live?

egreg

@AlanMunn I believe to have it

@Moriambar No, unfortunately

Moriambar

@egreg I did. Marvelous

egreg

@Moriambar I remember him playing Bach under the just fallen wall in Berlin.

Moriambar

7:27 PM

@egreg I listen to his rehersal of Bach, many years ago.

egreg

Rostropovich cello performance in front of the Berlin Wall

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Alan Munn

@Moriambar I'm sure I have, since I lived in DC while he was still director of the National Symphony Orchestra, but I don't recall any specific concert.

Moriambar

@egreg I did not see this back then

Paulo Cereda

Cute video in the hockey game: twitter.com/CrushingClipss/status/810992560596537345

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Sha Vuklia

guys, what was the command again for "new command" within your document in latex? (so after `begin{document}`)
so I'm not looking for `\newcommand`

but rather for the command that doesn't turn a variable in a variable

ohhhh

operatorname

Moriambar

7:47 PM

@ShaVuklia have you found your answer?

David Carlisle

@barbarabeeton true but if you are just fattening them up for the table, it's Ok.

barbara beeton

@AlanMunn -- my sister lived in bethesda, and went to many national symphony concerts. she was a fan. i think the orchestra really appreciated him too.

@DavidCarlisle -- not really. in that case, it's probably better to feed them unground/unbaked grain or corn. it's the grinding and baking that's not good for them.

wilx

8:05 PM

Is there a hook to insert something at the very end of paragraph, like a \quad or similarly sized space so that the paragraph never ends at the very edge of the line?

yo'

@wilx \parfillskip 1em plus 1fil but I doubt you want this. At best, it's \parfillskip 1em plus 1fil minus 1em

@ShaVuklia we were more than happy to be your rubber ducks. Especially @PauloCereda :)

wilx

@yo' Thanks. Let me try.

Paulo Cereda

@yo' Quack! <3

Alan Munn

@barbarabeeton Yes, although I found the programming at the Kennedy Center always a bit stodgy compared to NY or Montreal or Toronto. But that was a function of the audience demographics much more so than Rostropovich, who commissioned lots of contemporary works himself.

@barbarabeeton DC is a funny place because because some of its character changes with each new administration. And the Kennedy Center audience was much more in it for the social aspect than the music in general. Of course not everyone, but a lot I think.

barbara beeton

@AlanMunn -- it probably also depended on who was in office. i really shudder to think of what the programming must be like now. (my sister told a story of a concert with van cliburn, whose luggage had gotten lost, but there was a tall texan in the white house from whom he could borrow suitable formal garb -- long enough, but just a bit more copious around the middle.)

Alan Munn

8:19 PM

@barbarabeeton Well I don't think it's that dependent, thankfully. And there are still a lot of permanent residents in the DC area for sure. But I think independent of party, the politicos treat these kinds of events similarly.

Alan Munn

9:12 PM

Does anyone know of a package which simplifies reporting of stats (e.g. formatting of results of t-tests, F-tests etc?)

Joseph Wright

9:54 PM

@DavidCarlisle Hope you like my version of \filename@parse!