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DJMcMayhem
DJMcMayhem
5:00 PM
@WheatWizard I think that's the most underrated answer on there IMO
 
betseg
betseg
Same
 
Wheat Wizard
Wheat Wizard
Thanks. Its not as cool as Martin but encoding a polyglot in a ppm image is always fun
 
DJMcMayhem
DJMcMayhem
+1 for We saved the best for last. :D — DJMcMayhem Oct 4 '16 at 15:18
Then again, I've upvoted basically every single answer on that challenge. I loved watching them roll in, and most of them blew my mind
I've +1'd 15/21 of those
Oh wait, 21 includes deleted
 
Kritixi Lithos
Kritixi Lithos
I wasn't on PPCG when you posted that, I came back a few weeks later :(
 
DJMcMayhem
DJMcMayhem
10/16, still a lot
That's definitely my favorite challenge
 
Poke
Poke
5:04 PM
@AdmBorkBork I guess that makes sense
 
Wheat Wizard
Wheat Wizard
Is there a way to exclude certain tags (tips) when doing a search?
 
Jan Dvorak
Jan Dvorak
-[tips] ?
 
Kritixi Lithos
Kritixi Lithos
-[tips]
ninja'd
 
Wheat Wizard
Wheat Wizard
thansk!
 
Jan Dvorak
Jan Dvorak
Yours is without a question mark, though
 
user165474
5:13 PM
@WheatWizard "thansk" again?
 
user165474
:P
 
AdmBorkBork
AdmBorkBork
@HyperNeutrino Sounds like a city somewhere in Russia.
 
user165474
Kinda does :P
 
Jan Dvorak
Jan Dvorak
Google Maps didn't find anything, but it did find a couple stores named "Thanks"
c'mon guys, we have a settlement to found
 
betseg
betseg
And "dansk" is "Danish" in Danish.
 
Kritixi Lithos
Kritixi Lithos
5:21 PM
@HyperNeutrino That somehow reminds me of "Gdansk"
 
AdmBorkBork
AdmBorkBork
@JanDvorak That's because I don't think there's a "th" sound in Russian.
 
Riker
Riker
@betseg dankeschön
@WheatWizard your thansk is like my weird apostrophes
 
Kritixi Lithos
Kritixi Lithos
I thought it was two words
 
betseg
betseg
@Riker this isn't Danish
 
Riker
Riker
@KritixiLithos rule #1 for german: stick stuff together
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@betseg that is correct
ex: if you type "danke schon" into google translate, it prompts you to change taht to "danke schön", and then prompts you again to change that to "dankeschön"
 
AdmBorkBork
AdmBorkBork
5:24 PM
@Riker To be fair, English does that, too, we just usually keep them as physically separate words and call them compound nouns.
 
Riker
Riker
true
I think german does it more though
and german seems to do it with adjectives more
 
AdmBorkBork
AdmBorkBork
See, it was a joke, because "compound noun" is in itself a compound noun ..
 
betseg
betseg
Eskimos have hundreds of words for snow because they stick stuff together too
 
Riker
Riker
they also have a lot of snow
 
betseg
betseg
> Zusammengesetzte Substantiv
Compound noun in German
Wtf
 
AdmBorkBork
AdmBorkBork
5:26 PM
So does English ... snow, flurries, flakes, sleet, slush, etc.
 
TuxCopter
TuxCopter
Well, in Inuktitut an entire sentence is a single word ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
Riker
Riker
@betseg "composite noun"?
 
betseg
betseg
@TuxCopter Sometimes happens in Turkish too
@Riker Zusammengesetztes Substantiv
Both according to Google
 
Riker
Riker
huh
 
AdmBorkBork
AdmBorkBork
> Life is short, so make sure to tell someone "I love you." But since life is also terrifying, make sure to yell it at them in German. "ICH LIEBE DICH!"
 
Jan Dvorak
Jan Dvorak
5:30 PM
That sounds like something Black Hat would do
 
AdmBorkBork
AdmBorkBork
Given how often this chat turns to the topic of language, I wonder what a Venn diagram of "people who find programming interesting" and "people who find linguistics interesting" would look like.
 
betseg
betseg
Lol - Google translates the sentence "Vardım." as "Help me.". "var-" means "to arrive", "Vardım." means "I have arrived.", "Yardım." means "Help/help me.".
 
TuxCopter
TuxCopter
Well, Turkish is so weird it's not surprising that Google Translate can't handle it
 
betseg
betseg
ಠ_ಠ
 
Kritixi Lithos
Kritixi Lithos
Humans are weird creatures
 
betseg
betseg
5:32 PM
True
 
TuxCopter
TuxCopter
ye
 
AdmBorkBork
AdmBorkBork
@TuxCopter What do you do with all that time?
 
TuxCopter
TuxCopter
?
 
AdmBorkBork
AdmBorkBork
The time you save every day by not typing the "S" on "yes."
:p
 
betseg
betseg
Lel
 
TuxCopter
TuxCopter
5:35 PM
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
Kritixi Lithos
Kritixi Lithos
The time saved would probably be lost again on TNB :P
 
TuxCopter
TuxCopter
That's true
 
flawr
flawr
 
betseg
betseg
Second one
 
Riker
Riker
I'm actually subbed to #2 for the tree ID posts
I find them cool
@Downgoat have you figured out why gitgoat is crashing?
 
betseg
betseg
5:43 PM
CMC: a link to TIO that when pressed run outputs the URL
7
 
Riker
Riker
chat mega challenge
 
AdmBorkBork
AdmBorkBork
github.com/TryItOnline ... I'm sure the algorithm to generate the links is in there somewhere
 
Pavel
Pavel
6:14 PM
And then submit it to the quine challenge as "Try it Online!, xyz bytes"
 
Kritixi Lithos
Kritixi Lithos
 
Pavel
Pavel
@betseg This should be an indefinite bounty on the quine challenge.
 
Riker
Riker
@Pavel that's brilliant
 
Pavel
Pavel
I would do it, but I want to finally get over 2,000 some time in the next soon.
 
betseg
betseg
But...but TIO backend will change soon (will switch to TIO2)
 
Pavel
Pavel
6:24 PM
Soon(tm)
 
mınxomaτ
mınxomaτ
6:37 PM
BTW, GitHub Gist doesn't block SVG images that leak memory
 
Anonymous
I don't know if I should click that
 
mınxomaτ
mınxomaτ
At most it'll freeze the tab.
 
betseg
betseg
Just shows source code
 
mınxomaτ
mınxomaτ
No, it tries to render the SVG, at least here in Chrome (Windows and Ubuntu)
It eats about 2G of memory before giving an "unresponsive" warning for me.
 
Riker
Riker
it does indeed do that
 
mınxomaτ
mınxomaτ
6:40 PM
Show source?
 
Riker
Riker
@mınxomaτ it also lags other tabs
@mınxomaτ well, it crashed my chrome entirely
the tab froze, then other started lagging, then chrome crashed
no unresponsive warning here
 
mınxomaτ
mınxomaτ
If you unfocus the tab in Chrome a few times, it'll eat memory silently without the warning.
Or did you run out of memory?
 
betseg
betseg
Doesn't seem to crash/freeze when requested desktop site
 
mınxomaτ
mınxomaτ
Are you on mobile or what?
 
mbomb007
mbomb007
Poll: What's your favorite online BF interpreter?
 
betseg
betseg
6:42 PM
@mınxomaτ yes
 
mbomb007
mbomb007
 
mınxomaτ
mınxomaτ
@betseg And it didn't occur to you that GitHub might render things differently on mobile or that this was in any way relevant >.>
 
betseg
betseg
It just shows the source code on mobile site, tries to render on desktop site
Huh, crashed this time
 
mınxomaτ
mınxomaτ
Somewhat funny to see Chrome's GC fighting.
 
betseg
betseg
Giant Cosmos?
 
Kritixi Lithos
Kritixi Lithos
6:47 PM
Google Chrome :P
 
Pavel
Pavel
Garbage Collection
 
Riker
Riker
 
mbomb007
mbomb007
Genghis Con
 
Jan Dvorak
Jan Dvorak
@Riker right click -> sort by -> name
 
mbomb007
mbomb007
Don't forget to align to grid.
 
Pavel
Pavel
6:49 PM
rm -r ~/*
 
mbomb007
mbomb007
Yeah, clear it out
 
Jan Dvorak
Jan Dvorak
My solution is to have so many windows I never have to see the desktop
 
betseg
betseg
@Pavel so, don't remove hidden files?
 
Pavel
Pavel
My solution is to use Gnome, which doesn't come with minimize/maximize buttons.
@betseg If they're hidden, they're not cluttering up the desktop, are they?
 
betseg
betseg
Gnome doesn't even have icons by default + gnome icons are located in ~/Desktop, not ~
 
mbomb007
mbomb007
6:51 PM
@JanDvorak Then take a screenshot and set it as the background?
 
Pavel
Pavel
rm -r ~/* clears the desktop
 
betseg
betseg
In a way, yes. Like using a nuke kills a mosquito.
 
Pavel
Pavel
Remember that time Downgoat made a directory called ~, and then ran rm -rf ~ to get rid of it?
 
betseg
betseg
Rip
 
Pavel
Pavel
Mar 3 at 1:55, by Downgoat
I have created a directory named ~
Read down from there
 
betseg
betseg
6:55 PM
I'd have done rm -rf $'\176'
 
Jan Dvorak
Jan Dvorak
No, you wouldn't have
 
betseg
betseg
y
 
Pavel
Pavel
Because rm -rf ./~ makes more sense.
And takes less effort
 
mbomb007
mbomb007
@betseg Let's hope that Kim Jung Un isn't afraid of spiders.
 
Pavel
Pavel
Poll: How to pronounce ~
 
Jan Dvorak
Jan Dvorak
6:59 PM
tilde
 
mbomb007
mbomb007
TILL DUH
 
Jan Dvorak
Jan Dvorak
til-dee
 
Pavel
Pavel
^^
 
mbomb007
mbomb007
\ˈtil-də\
It's not DEE
 
betseg
betseg
@Pavel I call it squiggly hyphen
 
Basic Sunset
Basic Sunset
7:01 PM
I use CJam way too much and just think of it as eval
 
mbomb007
mbomb007
I use Internet way too much
 
Pavel
Pavel
I used to call it "squig"
 
mbomb007
mbomb007
Poll: How do you say \?
 
Basic Sunset
Basic Sunset
Back slash
 
mbomb007
mbomb007
Same. I know some who say "wack"
 
New Main Posts
New Main Posts
7:04 PM
0
Q: Self Referential Puzzle - medium 2

usernameiwantedwasalreadytakenThe following question was asked in puzzling SE. One of the answers there suggested to write a program to test all possible answers and show one of them (if it exists). Can you write such program? The test can also be found here. The first question whose answer is D is the question A. 8 ...

code-challenge game combinatorics permutations
 
Basic Sunset
Basic Sunset
That's whack.
 
mbomb007
mbomb007
It can be spelled either way. computerhope.com/jargon/w/whack.htm
 
Basic Sunset
Basic Sunset
Now that got me thinking of people who call ! "bang"
 
mbomb007
mbomb007
Exclamation mark
Or "not" if it's code I'm reading.
 
Jan Dvorak
Jan Dvorak
bang works for me
 
Basic Sunset
Basic Sunset
7:06 PM
Or factorial if it's math
 
mbomb007
mbomb007
Yeah
I call it 33
 
AdmBorkBork
AdmBorkBork
@JanDvorak It's a Mac, do they have right-click? ;-)
 
Jan Dvorak
Jan Dvorak
two-finger tap?
 
mbomb007
mbomb007
 
AdmBorkBork
AdmBorkBork
Yes, I've seen that.
 
TuxCopter
TuxCopter
7:08 PM
> Keeping viewers on the hemorrhaging-edge of technology
pls
 
New Main Posts
New Main Posts
7:19 PM
0
Q: Infinite function application

Eugene D. GubenkovWrite a function that can be infinitely called that produces the sum of the all arguments passed into function calls when called w/o arguments (or with null or another special value). Any amount of function calls should be supported. Examples: f(1)() == 1 f(4)(2)(7)() == 13 f(4)(2)(7)(5)(2)() =...

recursion
 
New Bounties With No Deadlines
New Bounties With No Deadlines
0
A: List of bounties with no deadline

AdmBorkBork500 rep for a TIO quine Based on a chat message from betseg, I (AdmBorkBork) am offering a 500 rep bounty for someone who can post an answer (in any language on TIO) of a TIO link that when run on TIO outputs its own full URL, including http:// and domain. The submission should be posted as an ...

13
 
Riker
Riker
I love how that has 3 stars but 2 votes
 
betseg
betseg
Lel
 
AdmBorkBork
AdmBorkBork
Now it's 4 stars and 3 votes ... hah
 
betseg
betseg
Now it's 5 stars and 4 votes
 
AdmBorkBork
AdmBorkBork
7:25 PM
cah-razy
 
betseg
betseg
7 and 3 :/
 
Anonymous
We really don't need a live feed of the stars and votes
 
Comrade SparklePony
Comrade SparklePony
Which golfing language has the shortest average byte count?
 
Anonymous
@ComradeSparklePony Jelly
 
Kritixi Lithos
Kritixi Lithos
@ComradeSparklePony Dennis
2
 
betseg
betseg
7:34 PM
@KritixiLithos my favourite golfing language
 
orlp
orlp
@Lembik are you here?
 
Pavel
Pavel
@KritixiLithos +1
 
Basic Sunset
Basic Sunset
@ComradeSparklePony 05AB1E is usually pretty close to Jelly (and beats it sometimes)
 
mbomb007
mbomb007
@NewBountiesWithNoDeadlines The infinity symbol in the avatar is not symmetrical! ARRGH!
 
Jan Dvorak
Jan Dvorak
fix plz
 
Pavel
Pavel
7:46 PM
@mbomb007 It's easier to cope if you imagine it's rotated back right.
 
Jan Dvorak
Jan Dvorak
No, it's not. The white pixel in the top left corner simply doesn't belong there.
 
mbomb007
mbomb007
And the left side is wider
(longer?)
 
Jan Dvorak
Jan Dvorak
That's because the infinity symbol is wrapped around a transparent cylinder
 
mbomb007
mbomb007
@ComradeSparklePony Note that the URL will include the language name.
 
AdmBorkBork
AdmBorkBork
@mbomb007 What if you count "TIO" as the language and the "URL" as the code? I'm pretty sure that it's possible (might be really crappy to try and program in, but still possible) to feed code and inputs via URL to TIO and have it determine if a number is prime or whatnot.
 
mbomb007
mbomb007
7:57 PM
I still don't think it'd be a valid solution. Instead, you should create a separate challenge for it.
Then, every language can compete
So python 2 has to output tio.run/nexus/python2..., etc
Also, you'd need to specify if the URL requires the http:// or https://
Just make a separate challenge
It seems like a unique enough challenge to me
 
AdmBorkBork
AdmBorkBork
Do you think there's the possibility that more than one person will be able to answer it?
 
mbomb007
mbomb007
I'm pretty sure you'd need clearer specs, though.
 
Okx
Okx
@ComradeSparklePony the answer is (heavily) disputable
 
mbomb007
mbomb007
Clearer specs will be required, such as putting the URL-generation algorithm in the question.
Since the algorithm could change in the future.
 
AdmBorkBork
AdmBorkBork
Yeah, that's a problem.
 
mbomb007
mbomb007
8:01 PM
And you have to specific whether it uses tio.run/nexus or TIO V2
 
Okx
Okx
 
AdmBorkBork
AdmBorkBork
See, now you're understanding why I just stuck it as an indefinite bounty rather than a separate challenge.
 
mbomb007
mbomb007
I think it has to be its own challenge, though.
Sure, it's hard, but it should be its own thing
 
AdmBorkBork
AdmBorkBork
OK, I'll leave the indefinite bounty as-is for now, and sandbox up a separate challenge, then link the indefinite bounty to it when posted to Main.
 
mbomb007
mbomb007
Definitely use nexus. TIO V2 doesn't seem to be working, and it uses shortened URLs
 
Mendeleev
Mendeleev
8:05 PM
@mbomb007 Gives 500 errors
 
Lembik
Lembik
@orlp Hi
 
Okx
Okx
@Mendeleev ?
 
mbomb007
mbomb007
@Mendeleev Nexus doesn't.
 
Mendeleev
Mendeleev
@mbomb007 But v2 does.
@Okx was joke
 
Lembik
Lembik
@orlp I am going in a minute but .. what's up?
 
mbomb007
mbomb007
8:06 PM
in talk.tryitonline.net, 2 mins ago, by mbomb007
Error on TIO V2: https://tio.run/#VnmQC
Ninja'd
@AdmBorkBork Cool. Honestly, the describing the algorithm for the URL generation is probably the hardest part. I've looked a few times, because I wish I had a way to generate a URL for a program containing NUL bytes, but I don't understand it well enough.
 
New Sandboxed Posts
New Sandboxed Posts
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

AdmBorkBorkTryItOnquine optimized-output code-challenge quine (based on this post and the ensuing discussion on chat) Choose a language that's currently available on the TIO Nexus, for example PowerShell. Write code in that language on that page such that when the Run button is clicked, the output is the...

 
orlp
orlp
@Lembik can you tell me why the eigenvectors of an upper triangular matrix filled with the harmonic series is Pascal's triangle?
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Q: Eigenvectors of harmonic series matrix

orlpI have a finite upper triangular $n$ by $n$ matrix $A$ which has the following form: $$ A = \begin{pmatrix} 1 & 1\over 2 & 1\over 3 & \cdots & 1\over n \\ 0 & 1\over 2 & 1\over 3 & \cdots & 1\over n \\ 0 & 0 & 1\over 3 & \cdots & 1\over n \\ \vdots &\vdots &\vdots &\ddots &\vdots \\ 0 & 0 & 0 &...

eigenvalues-eigenvectors binomial-coefficients
 
Lembik
Lembik
@orlp I can't do better than the answer there
sorry.. I am no expert on this
is the answer no good?
 
AdmBorkBork
AdmBorkBork
8:23 PM
Can you do formatting in challenge titles? I guess I've never thought about it.
 
Basic Sunset
Basic Sunset
I vaguely recall seeing italics in one before but that doesn't feel right
 
AdmBorkBork
AdmBorkBork
Well, if it works, cool, if it doesn't, it's still OK.
 
orlp
orlp
@Lembik not for me :(
I don't understand it
I thought you were an expert on matrices :D
 
mbomb007
mbomb007
@AdmBorkBork I don't think so
 
orlp
orlp
@Lembik I used this wonderful result to solve a hard problem martin ender posed: math.stackexchange.com/a/2242150/5558
 
AdmBorkBork
AdmBorkBork
8:33 PM
@orlp Kinda looks like flawr is OP there ...
But that's pretty slick.
 
orlp
orlp
@AdmBorkBork yes, flawr also worked on the problem
 
mbomb007
mbomb007
It's been too long since I took Linear Algebra. I probably wouldn't have understood it too well at that time, either, though.
 
AdmBorkBork
AdmBorkBork
Apr 28 '16 at 18:12, by TimmyD
> You learned this in linear algebra. -Every professor teaching maths beyond linear algebra.
 
New Main Posts
New Main Posts
8:50 PM
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Q: The 10958 problem

Yam BBACKSTORY The 10598 problem comes from a math paper discussed in Numberphile's video here. The problem arises in trying to construct a formula for the number 10958 using the numbers 1 through 9. The digits have to be in numerical order and only used once. The operations allowed are addition, su...

code-challenge fastest-code
 
mbomb007
mbomb007
An example homograph attack by a security researcher. The website looks like apple.com in the address bar: xn--80ak6aa92e.com
 
AdmBorkBork
AdmBorkBork
Oh yeah, I saw that. Punycode fail.
 
betseg
betseg
Do you think we will see another CME that destroys the whole electrical grid/internet/etc like the one in 1859?
 
AdmBorkBork
AdmBorkBork
Sure
In my lifetime? Not very likely.
Before the Earth is cooked to a crisp as the Sun expands? Yeah.
 
mbomb007
mbomb007
CME?
 
AdmBorkBork
AdmBorkBork
8:53 PM
Coronal Mass Ejection.
 
betseg
betseg
Coronal Mass Eject, a huge charged particle storm
 
AdmBorkBork
AdmBorkBork
Chat Mini Ehallenge
 
betseg
betseg
9:10 PM
Gnight
 
New Main Posts
New Main Posts
9:29 PM
-2
Q: Infinite function call with no arguments call as terminator

Eugene D. GubenkovIt's tightened version of the challenge I've posted here: Infinite function call -- the difference is the stronger requirement for "termination call" and solution should also be pure function. Write a pure function that can be infinitely called that produces the sum of the all positive integer a...

code-golf recursion
 
ATaco
ATaco
10:03 PM
Chat Mini Challenge
 
LegionMammal978
LegionMammal978
10:22 PM
Fun fact: On my digital wristwatch, using its values optimally, I'd be able to encode 29 A-B-C-D test answers into its state
 
orlp
orlp
@LegionMammal978 what values does it have?
 
LegionMammal978
LegionMammal978
@orlp Let's see... 
     4  mode settings
*   60  current second
*   60  current minute
*   24  current hour
*    2  12/24 hour toggle
*    4  alarm settings
*   60  alarm minute
*   24  alarm hour
*  100  stopwatch milliseconds
*   60  stopwatch seconds
*   60  stopwatch minutes
*   12  current month
*   31  current day
> 4^29
 
ATaco
ATaco
We weren't allowed our watches during exams
Even analog ones
 
LegionMammal978
LegionMammal978
@ATaco Yeah, our school/system just disallows Apple watches, etc.
 
Jan Dvorak
Jan Dvorak
Why not just use a calculator?
 
ATaco
ATaco
10:30 PM
Calciulator was also only allowed in one of the exams
Calculator, even
 
orlp
orlp
on our exams people were allowed to use smartphones as a calculator on a honor system
honestly in computer science if you can answer an exam question by sneakily googling either the question was bad or you understood the topic anyway
@LegionMammal978 you can do way better though
if you have the exam answers already
 
Mendeleev
Mendeleev
@ATaco at
 
orlp
orlp
@LegionMammal978 assuming you just want a passing grade
 
Helka Homba
Helka Homba
@LegionMammal978 I bet you could do more if you cleverly painted your nails
 
ATaco
ATaco
10:46 PM
If you answer a Computer Science question with any language allowed in brainfuck, do you get bonus points or deducted points?
Not necessarily an exam, of course.
 
Conor O'Brien
Conor O'Brien
I could technically write my final exam program in BF but then I'd get deducted points because the testers wouldn't know how to execute the program...
 
ATaco
ATaco
Include a link to TIO.
 
Conor O'Brien
Conor O'Brien
in the source code? Hm, great idea, I don't think BF considers periods as special chars :P
 
ATaco
ATaco
Include a Base64 encoded link to TIO!
 
betseg
betseg
+-+-.,., Etc [-][link to online interpreter]
 
Nathan Merrill
Nathan Merrill
11:06 PM
Lang idea: a 2D language that can push around/delete/write it's source code, and the output is the source code
 
ATaco
ATaco
Push as in move?
 
Nathan Merrill
Nathan Merrill
Yeah
 
ATaco
ATaco
...
I've got a language to write.
 
Pavel
Pavel
@NathanMerrill I think that's what ROOP is
Well, almost.
 
Nathan Merrill
Nathan Merrill
eh, its not really exactly what I'm thinking
I'm writing up a quick prototype
 
Pavel
Pavel
11:27 PM
 
Conor O'Brien
Conor O'Brien
OC it's turing complete, it has VBScript
 
Pavel
Pavel
Without VB macros, using only animations and animation triggers.
 
Conor O'Brien
Conor O'Brien
ok I'll bite. clicks video link
ok this guy has waaay to much time on his hands
 
Helka Homba
Helka Homba
@ConorO'Brien Says someone with 555 PPCG answers
 
Conor O'Brien
Conor O'Brien
... touché
 
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