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Downvoter

8:55 PM

So... what do you think about this new AWESOME site?

Oak

9:06 PM

My avatar just floated down from the top

Downvoter

Yes, they do that

Downvoter

When you leave, they float downwards... continuing their journey

So this is what the third place looks like.

Pretty. :D

Downvoter

Yes, it's nice

Downvoter

So... not a HUGE increase in traffic after going public

Downvoter

9:15 PM

I guess not the whole world was expecting it like I thought

Yeah, I also expected a ton of people to sign up.

Hi.

GAMING!

So, umm, apart from the MSO profile link, what does this do over IRC and a logbot?

@macha: it accepts feeds :)

9:18 PM

People's avatars float down when they enter a chatroom. :)

Downvoter

also, this:

Downvoter

meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/57105/…

@Sathya: IRC bots exist for that.

preview is pretty nice superuser.com/users/4377/sathya

Downvoter

@sat, it only works on meta (from the meta chat)

9:20 PM

@Juan Ah

Sathya, Austin, TX

10.6k 2 7 28

windows-7 windows linux ubuntu windows-xp google-chrome firefox

Downvoter

hmm

Oh, also the layout gets b0rked on my iPod touch after a few messages. Last (two?) hidden by input box. sigh

Downvoter

it seems I lied

bug, heh. link must be in new line? @Juan

How do you post those?

Downvoter

9:21 PM

google.com

Downvoter

just paste the link to the question

So does this store all messages previously posted?

@mew yep

Downvoter

bold is with *

Downvoter

like this

9:21 PM

Heh.

Gamasutra - Art & Business of gaming <br />http://www.gamasutra.com/

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Q: In Team Fortress 2, what is a good strategy to deal with lots of engineers turtling on the other team?

Now that the Engineer update has come, there will be lots of Engineers building up everywhere. How should this best be handled?

strategy team-fortress-2 tactics

heh, HTML stripped out

gamasutra.com

Oak

I'm italics I'm bold [I'm a link](www.imalink.com)

Oak

no link :(

9:22 PM

Hmm, seems to work for limited sites ?

Downvoter

[I'm a link](www.imalink.com)

Oak

[I'm a link][1]

[1]:http://www.imalink.com

Oak

nada

61

Q: How do I delete my Facebook account?

I don't trust Facebook's new privacy settings and have decided to delete my account, but I can't find the kill switch. Does anyone know how I can delete my Facebook account?

facebook delete account

Kevin Y, Vancouver, BC

3.8k 1 5 17

iphone pokemon game-rec ds wii xbox-360 minecraft

Cool. :)

9:24 PM

Also, it has refresh seizures on my iPod :(

Oak

Yea, I also expected more new users the moment the beta opened

Oak

Oh well

Downvoter

anyone has a link to a question in a private beta?

Probably a bug tbh. Gaming is still private?

Downvoter

nope

9:24 PM

BTW there is a sandbox room - where you can test chat.meta.stackoverflow.com/rooms/18/sandbox

Oak

Nope

@Macha went public today

Downvoter

@Oak, not too much attention like web apps got

Downvoter

a blog post and everything

Oak

Well, we got around 100 new users

Downvoter

9:25 PM

only because we were second :(

Oak

though not a lot of new questions / answers yet

Oh? Since when?

Oak

I can definitely feel higher traffic, though

Downvoter

since 2 hours ago

Downvoter

all it got was a tweet from joel

Downvoter

9:26 PM

The Stack Exchange for games is now public http://gaming.stackexchange.com/

Tweeted by spolsky on July 14, 2010 at 7:14 PM

Lower traffic could also be because of web filtering in workplaces

Oak

On the surface 100 users in 2 hours is great, but I would have hoped there were more people who wanted to jump in and see the moment it opens

Oh well. At least I was on page 1 for a few days :P

hola

So, what domain is everybody here leaning towards?

Downvoter

9:28 PM

aloha

Downvoter

I don't like any of them actually

Oak

It's interesting we have more dwarf fortress questions than team fortress 2 or world of warcraft or borderlands on starcraft 2...

Oak

I'm really sad about quicksave.com... I wanted to propose it myself but didn't because it was taken. But since Joel said it's basically okay, someone else was faster and proposed it :)

gaming.stackexchange.com/tags

dang it.

QuickSave/QuickLoad. Or my suggestion SaveReload :P. Though I really hope pauseforhelp.com doesn't win.

Downvoter

9:29 PM

I proposed infinitelives.com

Oak

It is a great name. quickload, too

top tags: xbox-360: 54 PC: 53

Same here, Macha

@Juan @Oak Infinite Lives/ QuickSave/Reload is nice

Oak

Yea it's just curious the most popular game-name-tag is dwarf fortress

9:30 PM

@Juan where is the voting for name being held ?

I'd still like something to fit into the whole SO theme

Oak

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Q: Suggest a domain name for this site

Possible Duplicate: Write an Elevator Pitch / Tagline Note: We are closing this domain naming thread. It is asking the entirely wrong question. See this blog post for details: Domain Names: Wrong Question We're going to keep the name gaming.stackexchange.com. But we WILL be setting ...

discussion top-7 site-attributes domain-name

Downvoter

here:

Oak

:)

Skiptutorial or something like that

9:30 PM

Actually the person who suggested it or someone els should edit it, so anyone can undo downvoted for takenness.

Downvoter

beat me to it

Thanks @Oak

Oak

You prepared the "here:" for me :P

Downvoter

I actually posted it but got an error

Macha: which one?

9:31 PM

There was actually a question for Baldur's gate

gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/baldurs-gate

QuickSave/QuickLoad

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Q: Silver Pantaloons

In Baldur's Gate 2, I got the item Silver Pantaloons. What is the purpose of this item? Is it useful or can I toss it?

pc rpg baldurs-gate

Don't see that anywhere, what's its score?

Downvoter

why is it weird @oak?

what about allourbase.com? :-p

Downvoter

9:32 PM

*curious

Oh, it's the top one, never mind

Oak

@Juan: dunno, I knew it was popular, but definitely not more popular than so called "AAA" titles

Downvoter

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A: Suggest a domain name for this site

infinitelives.com Taken, but not used; perhaps for sale.

Doesn't have any downvotes by the way

Quicksave/ QuickLoad just got a vote

9:33 PM

Has no downvotes

Downvoter

cool, you can link to answers

Self promotion time: SaveReload begins with an S, is two words, and is something that happens whn stuff goes wrong. /selfpromotion

IIRC Beta StackEx meta don't have downvotes

Oak

@Mecha: it's great... but it's not as iconically great as quicksave

Sathya, yeah they do

Oak

9:34 PM

or quickload, though I prefer quicksave

There was a meta question on that

pauseforhelp has 11 downvotes

Oops, the downvotes don't count for rep ?

Something of that sort. /meh

Downvoter

@Sat, no rep on meta

No, there's no rep for meta

9:34 PM

yeah I like QuickSave over QuickLoad.

On the new meta sites, the rep is just carried from the parent site.

You can't get rep for waffles jokes and freehand circles.

I know.

Oak

Well there's definitely more traffic now, look at the "active" page

Terrible.

Downvoter

unfortunally

9:35 PM

CW doesn't involve rep anyway

Downvoter

461 users reported here:

Downvoter

area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/1338/gaming

Post level maps with freehand circles maybe?

Downvoter

it's not real time though

Usually takes an hour for my rep to appear there

9:36 PM

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A: Suggest a domain name for this site

questoverload.com (available) You didn't sign up to figure out where the 12 chickens are! There are universes to save!

So any word on when moderator voting is gonna happen? Does our community moderator do that?

I thought this was a killer proposal but people like therightcastle.com better o.O

Is in't it kinda early for naming moderators?

Downvoter

no idea on moderator voting

Yeah, it is, I'm just curious

Although it could very well be that Gaming may need even more mods than SuperUser

9:38 PM

Probably.

trolls need some time to understand how the game works though :D

Probably, it attracts a lot less 'super' users

Gaming sites draw trolls.

Any trollcan pick up a game

Downvoter

I think it will be needed the more proposals go to public beta

Oak

9:38 PM

So, off-topic or not?

We all know Juan is going to have the/a place anyway.

Oak

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Q: Is there a market for old consoles and games?

I have some old consoles (Atari, NES, etc) sitting around in dustjackets at home. I never play them anymore, but I can't get myself to throw them away. Is there a market to sell them? Are they collectors items or would I be selling them for peanuts?

consoles selling

Woot, up-key to edit message just like in Skype. :D

Downvoter

right now the team is handling everything

Downvoter

but I don't know how long they can manage

9:39 PM

?

Oak, seems a bit 'local' to me?

Like, specific to a certain point in time

We all know Juan is going to have the/a place anyway.

Oak

@Mechko I dunno, feels somehow wrong

Items will always drop in value, it might have value now but not in a couple days

Yeah, Juan definitely deserves to be moderator

Downvoter

I don't know if I deserve it, but I do want to :)

Downvoter

9:40 PM

anyway, we'll see...

Well, you're constantly on my tail rep-wise ;-)

I didn't think there was even a question about Juan getting moderator :-p.

@Juan look your unicorn is bouncing

Downvoter

rep isn't important for this I think

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Q: Moderator nominations

Related: Moderator Pro Tem Announcement Some guidelines: Each nomination should be a separate answer. Link the name to the user's profile so we can see their activity. The nominee should indicate their acceptance by commenting on (or indeed editing) the answer. The top voted nominat...

discussion top-7 moderators

Oak

I should down vote his nomination >:-) look how much he wants the position, it's not a good sign

Downvoter

9:41 PM

a desire to see the site grow and be successful is more important IMO

Oak

He's gonna banninate us all, then burninate the site and the countryside

Well, rep isn't a measurement for how much someone deserves moderator

Downvoter

mhuahuahua

someone could be spamming after all

Rep does show the level of activity you have on a site

9:42 PM

exactly

If you want a mod, you want him to check the site frequently

Oak

I measure with rep, with meta activity, and with the actual opinions I see the user making on meta

Oak

Rep is important, I think

@Arda not necessary that rep would show activity

Oak

Especially at this stage, when we're supposed to seed the site!

9:43 PM

Sure it does, and the quality of which

There's something more than just that though. There are some people who just seem to know what they are doing. Juan is one of those. So is Arda, I think.

@arda I don't answer, but I vote, flag for spam/troll/dupes - zero rep but it doesn't mean that I've not been active

Oak

Hey, what kind of chat is that? I can edit things I wrote in the past!

Skype chat

@oak yeah, just hit up arrow like this

9:44 PM

hehehehe

@Sathya but a good moderator is a good community member too

@oak: yes, but you can only do it twice in three minutes. After that it's stuck. Okay, so they've changed the two edits only limit. Now it's just time limit.

That involves not just moderation, but involvement too

@Arda True. No doubt about that. Just sayin' that rep need not be the ultimate factor

Well, I'm capable of getting 200 rep in one day on SO if I want to, as I proved last week. But I'm normally not active enough, answering two or three questions in one day tops. So it does measure activity, but quality can subsitute for activity (and so can luck)

Oak

9:45 PM

I think I agree with Arda. Grace Note is very active in meta

That's what I said already

Oak

Less reputation, though

it isn't a measurement of how much someone deserves the position, it's just one of the factors

Downvoter

I agree, activity is not only measured on rep

FWIW I'd rather not be a Mod.

Oak

9:46 PM

@Macha maybe, but between two users active on meta, on having higher rep than the other definitely means something

Anyone here know if it'd be a good idea to publicise this site on Facepunch? (Macha, you perhaps?)

Sorry, behind on the chat. It does t work too well on my iPod, so half the time is spent watching flickering.

Then again, might just not be the kind of publicity we'd want

Downvoter

well... I have to go home (yes, I'm chatting at work)

Downvoter

I might come back later

9:47 PM

btw, since open beta, upvotes started flowing in

Downvoter

see ya!

I'm really impressed. We haven't had a single fanboy yet. Either that or they have been disposed of before I saw them

in the naming thread

@Arda I have one post there, ever.

@Mecko fanboys are the best kind of users ever! period!

I don't care what you have to say!

fanboys > *

period.

Oak

9:48 PM

That's not mathematically possible

@badp fanboi schmanboi

Oak

You need fanboys >= *

Oh wow, a fanboy fanboy

Oak

Otherwise fanboys > fanboys :(

No, fanboys > fanboys, they're THAT awesome!

Oak

9:48 PM

@Arda LOL

I've never seen fanboyism towards fanboys, ever

So awesome it does not compute!

@Arda: don't worry ma'am, I come from meta

exactly what I need just before midnight, you broke my brain

Oak

OK now it looks like we need a logo for our brand new site, QUICKSAVE.com

wait, ma'am? what?

HTML doesn't work here @Oak ;-)

9:50 PM

[status-fanboy-fanboy]

It's part of the snowclone, @Arda

Oak

Who posted HTML, me? Never! You lie.

user image

My reflexes are faster than your delete button

Oak

oo oo how'd you put pictures

9:51 PM

Oh wow, it does image embedding too?

Oak

@Arda maybe but you have no PROOF

I have.. a transcript. somewhere

anywhere

maybe I don't.

@Oak: merely link them

Anyway, has anyone written up some kind of promotional material for forums and the like? I don't mind writing my own, I just think other people would do better.

I think we're shooting ourselves in the foot by not allowing even slightly temporal questions. (personal opinion)

9:53 PM

@Mechko: Example?

We need some discussion about that on meta then. I thought we did, though

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Q: Questions that ask about the state of X "right now".

I have noticed a lot of seemingly valid questions are being closed as being too time localized, such as this one or this one. I agree that in its current form "right now" it can be problematic. However, I also think that if the question were stated as "As of July 12 2010" it should be answerabl...

discussion time-sensitive-questions

This question / answer embedding is so convenient.

indeed.

1

Q: What kind of graphics card is as minimum necessary for good gaming?

How much graphics memory is necessary? What kind of hardware acceleration is required?

hardware graphics-card

anyway, I agree with John there

9:54 PM

The problem here is

Amazing that each message has its own permalink

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A: Questions that ask about the state of X "right now".

Oh.. there's a moment... coming. There's a moment coming, it's... it's not here yet. It's on the way... It's still in the future. Here... here it is! (a beat) Oh.. it's gone, man. There's no present, man. Everything is the near future and the recent past. -- George Carlin (1937 - 2008) ...

well that doesn't really help. nice quote though

the site concept is supposed to be, "ask once, answer once, read many"

If, by the time you answered, your answer is outdated

the "read many" part breaks

and it's "read many" that has brought StackOverflow.com to huge success™

but there are other questions that are out of date more than a year later

exactly, the same thing happens on SU I believe

9:56 PM

like the gfx card question

for that one the same thing should go

Yeah, gfx card isn't that time sensitive

So much for Apple stuff being more reliable. iPod just hard crashed :(

haha

@Macha: Apple stuff works fantastic until it doesn't.

Then it's gg :P

9:56 PM

@badp yeah it is, that question should have the same treatment

(Or so I understand. I don't actually own anything Apple.)

Apple products are amazing. :D /fanboy

I think close-votes are just happening less since we don't have an awful lot of people with 500 rep

@arda: I think that if an answer is useful for, say, six months, then it should get to stay

I second badp.

9:57 PM

18 to be precise

You can have plenty of read many in six months

iTunes alone has made sure I will never buy a Mac :P

and I'm not sure much of the SO answers really apply after six months anyway

bugs get fixed

features get added

true, but then the flight simulator question should be allowed too, there's not a lot happening in that genre

new versions

9:58 PM

of FSX? hasn't happened for years

ok I have to go to work

very nice. Websense just filtered gaming.stackex X(

Access to this URL is currently restricted due to a blocking rule.

URL: http://gaming.stackexchange.com/
Rule: Block URLs of type Games

(you can upvote (star) comments btw)

BAH

that doesn't make a lot of websense

9:59 PM

ttfn

Wish the threshold for upvote/downvoted display was lower :(. I'll be there in a few days, but I still miss it. Btw, anyone think this site will end up the biggest SE site? Maybe SO size?

well, the name is a bit of a dead giveaway @sathya

just a teeny little bit.

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