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4:00 AM
> (badger: 1 snake 2 mushroom)
lol wot
 
@Mendeleev What is this licensed under? I might use it for something.
 
@ГригорийПерельман It's not finished at all, but CC-BY-SA 3.0 for now
 
@Downgoat bug in userscript: pinned messages show as standard starred ones
 
@Mendeleev Cool, thanks!
 
4:05 AM
Anyone else want to sign up for the contest?
 
maybe
I'm interested, but not very adept at challenge writing
Sure, I'm in
 
What's with blurry fonts in chrome?
 
@Riker I think @phi had said something like "(wager: 1 upvote)" and it got trolled into that
 
@MistahFiggins Sign up on the HackMD: hackmd.io/…
 
@Mendeleev Why so many tabs?!
 
4:16 AM
@TacoLemon Why not?
 
Fair enough.
 
16GB RAM, I can do whatever
 
That's nothing, when I had a good browser I used to have over 100 routinely
(then Opera died and all turned to sadness)
 
I also have FL Studio, RubyMine, and OBS open
@VisualMelon It was reborn as Vivaldi
 
there is also Otter
I'm just too lazy to investigate them
 
4:18 AM
The one fault with JetBrains IDEs is that they tend to use a lot of memory.
 
The great thing about code-golf is I currently have 12 running copies of VS
 
?????
 
Why do you have so many copies of Visual Studio running
 
Please refresh the page :)
 
4:20 AM
Request: If we are confused can we please explain it beyond "?", or "wat", or "HALP CONFUSE??" because such messages have 0 semantic meaning
 
@MendeleevLemon Just use the rubber duck, the duck was nice.
 
@Downgoat HALP CONFUSE?? DONT UNDERSTAND?!
 
> MendeleevLemon
 
1 for messing about with C# 7, 7 for various PPCG things, 4 for stuff I had to compile recently and can't be bothered to close
 
Not sure if to "lol" or ಠ_ಠ
 
4:21 AM
@MendeleevLemon No.
@VisualMelon Can't you have multiple things open in one window?
 
not as far as I'm aware, and I wouldn't want to anyway
 
does VS really not support tabs O_o
 
@Downgoat It was clear they were asking why Melon has 12 copies of VS running. But I agree "Why?" or "What?" is better than "wat" or "????"
 
@VisualMelon just use linux
 
I thought VS ran on Linux these days?
 
4:23 AM
That's just a text editor
 
I miss VS 2008... that thing was blazing fast, but 2015 and 2017 seem to work (2010 and 2012 always felt slow)
oh, is it just VS Code?
I've tried to use that program 3 times now, I still can't get it to run C#
 
"piece" of music I wrote today: soundcloud.com/phinotpi/2015windshcut001 (Disclaimer: not necessarily coherent in any way, sharp edges: handle with care, anything you say may be used against you in a court of law)
 
That's because VS Code is a text editor, like Atom or Sublime, and not an IDE
(I think, haven't used it)
 
yeah, but the internet said I could run C# with it
 
:/ Chatiquette is in dire need of an update imo
 
4:24 AM
@VisualMelon you need mono
 
but it clearly didn't account for how lazy I am
 
@Downgoat Agreed, but how?
 
@Downgoat what for?
 
(the reason I'm a C#er and not a Java...er...er is because years back I couldn't get Java to install, but VB.NET Express Edition just worked)
 
Poll: Have you clicked more internet ads (a) on accident or (b) out of serious interest in the product?
 
4:25 AM
@PhiNotPi pretty cool
 
@HelkaHomba Accident
I think I clicked on an ad for JetBrains Rider once.
 
Same I'd like to think
 
@HelkaHomba accident... very rarely out of interest, and I've never purchased anything because of one
 
I filled out my student discount form because of it.
Does that count?
 
@HelkaHomba Interest. Amazon has some ads that I like, also I've seen a couple of ads for 3D printing products.
 
4:28 AM
@MendeleevLemon consider checking out any of my good stuff
 
Interestingly, after I researched 3D printers for about a couple of days nonstop, all the Google ads I saw were for 3D printers, filament, supplies, upgrades, etc.
@PhiNotPi Listening to all of it right now
 
sorry to interrupt... PPCG is my audience.
 
@HelkaHomba definitely accident
 
4:32 AM
@TacoLemon Fails, duplicates messages
then maes your scroll
Your userscript broke chat. :(
 
@MendeleevLemon Since you're on chrome, and it works fine for everyone else, I'm going to guess this is an Arch thing.
 
Works for me on chrome :/
 
@ГригорийПерельман Browser should stay the same no matter what OS is running it
Actually I run Chrome 58 so that may be it
 
Update your chrome then >_>
 
@ГригорийПерельман Check your chrome version.
 
4:35 AM
Does refreshing unbreak it?
 
kinda
Have deleted script already
 
School netbook. I can't even install userscripts
I have to use Edge on it
 
@ГригорийПерельман Click menu->Help->About Google Chrome
@ГригорийПерельман why? Don't you have a T420 with Ubuntu?
 
I do, but it's downstairs, and I'm a lazy fuck.
 
heh good reason
In other news, I start my internship tomorrow! (Yay!)
 
4:37 AM
@MendeleevLemon let me know which ones you like
 
@PhiNotPi Most of them as of now
They're relaxing
 
That and I have to write a poem by tomorrow, and it's saved locally to my netbook.
 
@ГригорийПерельман google docs ffs
 
@MendeleevLemon Where?
 
@ГригорийПерельман Issaquah School District technology department
 
4:38 AM
@MendeleevLemon cool! hope it's not unpaid :P
 
@MistahFiggins It is
 
@MendeleevLemon Some of us hosted flash games and such on google sites, so they blocked google.
 
@ГригорийПерельман ...
You're kidding, right?
 
The filter is less restrictive if you're connected to the school network
 
@ГригорийПерельман omg
 
4:39 AM
Since there the idea is that teachers will monitor what you do.
 
that's crazy
 
Note to self: dont go to LWSD schools
I would probably get murdered by the IT director there
 
In my CS class, they have a system where you can look at what the students are doing and take over their screens :/
 
Actually, the search engine works, and I can access drive.google.com, but I can't sign in.
Google translate is blocked for some ungodly reason.
 
@ГригорийПерельман you can use it to bypass filtesr
 
4:41 AM
@MistahFiggins We have that too, which is why the filter is less restrictive at school.
@MendeleevLemon I suppose.
 
@ГригорийПерельман That's fucked up
 
I only know one teacher who uses it.
 
My CS teacher only uses it when he's low-key pissed
 
Same with my English teacher.
 
He's good at CS, but on the atrocious side of teaching
huuh, why is there 2 beeks when I get pinged?
 
4:44 AM
@MistahFiggins check for mutiple tnb's
 
It happens in other rooms too
like the sandbox
it's the challenge writing chat page tab that's making the second beep
why though?
 
@MistahFiggins If you are pinged in any room, the notification comes in all of them.
That way, you notice if someone pings you in a room but you're not in it right now.
 
ok, I guess
 
5:37 AM
kind of disappointing exploding head syndrome doesn't actually have anything to do with heads exploding ._.
 
5:59 AM
hi i just added a bunch of new shtuff to my KotH proposal. please ask questions if the explanation makes no sense: codegolf.meta.stackexchange.com/a/11866/47050
 
6:09 AM
In Mathjax how do I make - show as a hyphen and not a minus sign?
Never mind, it's already in front of me.
 
6:30 AM
hi
Oh wait is everyone turning into lemons and downgoats
._.
 
Technically I've always been a lemon
 
@HelkaHomba "No sandboxing your challenge or getting feedback." Why do you even need to ask for my opinion? ;)
 
6:46 AM
@TacoLemon ...Seriously?
btw what was the maximum name length?
 
7:02 AM
@fergusq I don't get any errors
But thanks for the tip on saving the byte :)
 
7:58 AM
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Dead PossumNever odd or even Did you notice, that this is a palindrome? Input Number or string representing it Output 4 possible outputs, representing two properties of number: is it palindrome tricky #2 Tricky #2 property If number is not palindrome, this property answeres the question "Do first an...

 
I have a challenge idea, We output the new PPCG logo, with the source shaped like this. lowest amount of changed cells (i.e. bytes which are erased or newly typed) wins.
 
8:57 AM
0
Q: GET your dubs together

sagikspOn 4chan, a popular game is dubs. Every post on the site gets a sequential post id, and users try to get repeating digits at the end of the number (i.e, 1234555). Of course, you can't influence or change your number, but we still try :( . Your task, if you wish to accept it, is to write a prog...

 
9:25 AM
TFW there are 2 C answers which are shorter than the Python answer.
2 1, Python answer is golfed
1 they are the same length now
 
10:03 AM
I almost ended writing my challenge and I realized theres a near-dupe
 
@KritixiLithos Here is a test case that fails if you don't use newline after [c]: Try it online!
It's not a syntax error technically. [c]y=y%#f is parsed like [c](y=y%#f). The y=y%#f is an argument to [c] and it basically compares y with its remainder. This is the same reason why you must have newlines after if conditions.
 
@SIGSEGV Oh god I've started something awful
 
@SIGSEGV Why did you post it if you know it's a dupe?
 
10:19 AM
0
Q: Solve a nonogram

SIGSEGVPlease help, I have a big nonogram, and it is too hard for me to solve. I/O You will be given input like this: [[[5],[4],[3],[2],[1]],[[5],[4],[3],[2],[1]]] The first array is the horizontal lines, and the second is the vertical lines. Each array in the array is the hints for each line. (...

 
@MendeleevLemon nice!
also nice: creative commons license
I'd try modifying it if I knew how
 
@Fatalize It was too late when I realized its a dupe
 
Hi
 
10:42 AM
@fergusq Ah thanks for finding it out
 
@KritixiLithos I just pushed a version that will give you an error for that.
I just did something that had one test take 0.35 seconds time to run. It previously took 0.001 seconds. I have no idea what happened, all the other tests work fine and fast and I don't use any special features in that test.
 
Maybe it's just a one-time thing
I remember how my IntelliJ Idea used to take <1 minute to start, now (since Oct-Dec-ish) it takes 5-10 minutes
 
Java /s
 
Mar 5 at 19:38, by betseg
java
 
10:59 AM
Opening GNOME Builder (an IDE for C/C++/Python/Vala) takes about 5 seconds on my PC
 
I used to use XCode for C++, but now I use Vim because I deleted XCode
 
I mainly use vim too, just wanted to talk about an IDE that opens in 5 seconds
 
After one day, my main IDEs became slow
IntelliJ Idea, Android Studio (powered by IntelliJ), the Processing Development Environment
 
@KritixiLithos Happened with Atom, didn't happen with Builder.
 
That's why I now use vim for Processing
 
11:05 AM
@betseg Because atom is bad
Electron is good though
 
11:23 AM
"According to the 'law of attraction', thoughts have an energy that attracts like energy"
Spam on this site keeps getting weirder
 
I thought Atom was generally considered good?
 
IDK, for some people maybe
But for me it was really slow
 
@KritixiLithos You can save two more bytes by removing the newlines before X=... and Y=....
I don't really know if Röda's newline policy is too complex. Newlines are allowed in some places and disallowed in some other places without following any simple rule.
 
@fergusq Sure, will do after I complete the explanation
@fergusq You know what, a for golfing in Röda on PPCG would be handy
 
Maybe. If you make one, I can answer it.
What is amusing about Röda's newlines is that lexically ; and newline are the same token. Therefore, it is allowed to use semicolons in weird places: print(;2+;2;) if;[;2=;2;];.
 
11:34 AM
posted on March 28, 2017 by Mukesh kumar

Thoughts are a vital tool in creating the reality we experience. Thoughts create vibrations, the way a pebble creates ripples in a lake. Thoughts, feelings, words and actions all send messages. A person's thoughts (conscious and unconscious), emotions, beliefs and actions are said to attract corresponding positive and negative experiences "through the resonance of the

 
wat why is this onebox different
 
When questions are deleted NMP bork
 
I thought that was the userscript
@fergusq Done
 
> Java Röda
 
1
Q: Tips for golfing in Java Röda

Kritixi LithosRöda is a stream-based scripting language created by fergusq. What general tips do you have for golfing in Röda? I'm looking for ideas that can which can be applied to code-golf problems and which are also at least somewhat specific to Röda (e.g. "remove comments" is not an answer). Please post...

 
11:48 AM
@NewMainPosts That "Java" ಠ_ಠ
@mods Could you please remove the comments on that ^^ challenge
 
> No. –%
Mod says no
Hahaha I'm funny
 
ಠ_ಠ
 
When I posted my answer, I was so excited that Java golfed Python in the Greek Anthem challenge... but I did not see the newer Python answer
 
12:03 PM
Yeah same
 
argh my bluetooth keyboard is out of battery
btw I tried making a checkbox with 2 alerts (on the second one, theres a checkbox by default) with alert(alert(1)); but someone said it's invalid so RIP my hopes and dreams
 
@SIGSEGV An alert in an alert?
That definitely doesn't work
 
It somehow worked for me
It showed undefined on the second time
(and a happy little checkbox :D)
 
Plus alert returns undefined, can't you just do alert(1);alert(1)?
 
longer
wait
 
12:15 PM
well you can't get it any shorter
 
ending semicolon is unneeded?
 
@SIGSEGV yeah, JS inserts semicolons at certain places when needed
 
hmm, so I can just go alert(alert(1)), but the problem is the checkbox should come out instantly
 
@SIGSEGV Why? (also what checkbox)
@SIGSEGV Why do you even need the 1 in there
 
@ASCII-only chrome complains about syntax, no?
@ASCII-only The checkbox challenge
 
12:20 PM
@SIGSEGV you get a checkbox even if you only run alert()
 
@fəˈnɛtɪk Browser?
 
chrome
 
@SIGSEGV No?
same for me, Vivaldi (Chromium)
 
hmm, did you get an alert before that alert?
 
Plus it's probably in the spec anyway so it should work in all browser
@SIGSEGV ??????
 
12:22 PM
There is nothing about getting an alert before it
 
@ASCII-only said it to @fəˈnɛtɪk
 
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SztupYLinear Chemistry Input is a string representing a skeletal formula of a molecule, in a format similar to O=C-O-H. However as a lot of formulas contain carbon and hydrogen atoms, it is customary to skip them from the description and just signal their presence by only displaying the used bonds. We...

 
oh @fəˈnɛtɪk Chrome only has the checkbox on the second alert on though
 
Prevent this page from opening additional dialogues appears on the first alert
 
@ASCII-only assume firefox then XD
 
12:24 PM
oh whoops i didn't know
Then yeah you only need alert()
 
huh, but doesn't it complain with having no arguments?
 
nope
it just creates an alert with text "undefined"
 
Or in Vivaldi nothing
 
Uhm, chrome does get the checkbox on the second time.
 
This is confusing
I think it is because I had run it before in that tab
 
12:27 PM
@SIGSEGV Yeah that's what I thought, but I haven't used it in a while so I wasn't sure
@fəˈnɛtɪk That's probably the reason
 
So I think I need a dialog which closes immediately
 
@SIGSEGV Why
Also what is the checkbox challenge
 
The alert(alert()) answer was deemed invalid for that anyway
 
47
Q: Create a Checkbox

Helka HombaWrite a program that creates a two-state checkbox that people can interact with using a mouse. Specifically, your program should achieve all of the following: Have a 8×8 pixel (or larger if desired) region of the screen that is the clickable area of the checkbox. Henceforth this region is simp...

 
HTML, 21 bytes: <input type=checkbox>
 
12:31 PM
Helka kinda put that in the question itself
 
Oh wait Jan already answered <input type=checkbox
 
2
Q: How to "auto close" Alert boxes

WarWe have a control that was made by a company that no longer exists. For some odd reason on page load it has now started rendering something like this to the page: <script type="text/javascript"> alert('Your license has expired!') </script> Since the company no longer exists we can't get suppo...

hmm
 
@SIGSEGV It prevents the first from opening so it wouldn't work
 
@fəˈnɛtɪk oh ok
Decides new challenge
Idea made
make two programs, when one is run, it outputs 'pong!' and runs the other one
 
@SIGSEGV well Qwertiy did <p onclick=innerHTML^=1>0 for HTML+JS
 
12:39 PM
@ASCII-only Yup, I saw it
how do I quote to a previous message? (without carets)
5 hours ago, by SIGSEGV
I have a challenge idea, We output the new PPCG logo, with the source shaped like this. lowest amount of changed cells (i.e. bytes which are erased or newly typed) wins.
...oh. I just did it.
 
user165474
1:20 PM
This golfing is getting intense...
 
I can't watch D:
I hope that Röda wins.
 
user165474
:(
 
user165474
y u got to be so mean :(
 
user165474
:P
 
It's been nice golfing with you
But I am a bit occupied at the moment
 
1:25 PM
I had one of these battles with RohanJhunjhunwala and he beat C with Java ;_;
 
user165474
@KritixiLithos Thanks, it's been pretty fun. I've never had to think about bytes so much before and it's been really fun.
 
user165474
@betseg wait Java won? O_O or was it just between you two?
 
I could save 2 bytes if there was the %= operator, but it doesn't exist yet
Think Kritixi, think...
 
@HyperNeutrino Java did win. codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/84889/… I don't know if I can golf more, didn't look at it for months
 
Oh wait, I have some important work to do right now :/
 
user165474
1:27 PM
@KritixiLithos If you save two more bytes I will be very annoyed
 
user165474
lol So do I, um... well actually it's work but it's not important
 
Each student in our class has to present what we did for this project. I'm just going to stick a big chunk of code in my poster to "scare" people away so that they won't see my failure
 
user165474
@KritixiLithos Hah, sounds like what I do, just stick scary things in that nobody understands so a) they don't see how bad it really is and b) they think it's good but they have no idea what it is
 
@KritixiLithos What is the project?
 
1:43 PM
On the dubs question, 17 of the 22 answers convert the int input to a string lel
 
user165474
Oh wow lol
 
And I'm proudly using maths
:p
 
user165474
:P I applaud your solution (because I like math lol)
 
1:58 PM
@fəˈnɛtɪk It's called the "Personal Project". It's something that everyone in my grade has to do (and it's different for each person). I am explaining Enantiomers (a type of isomers) by creating 3D models of them using Processing. And I sum up the information in a presentation. Now we have to present our projects to parents and other kids, and I haven't prepared my poster much.
 
2:10 PM
I had to make a poster too, and it was due today. I'm not exactly proud of it, but it's good enough.
I'm going to present it the day after tomorrow in a science competition.
My work was a computer program that composes music. It was really hard to make a poster. My teacher said that it has to have "colors" and "pictures", but I only got some musical notation and one graph.
Also LaTeX is irritating.
 
Anonymous
2:22 PM
@fergusq Colossal understatement
 
It's better than trying to do layout in Word
 
2:46 PM
@AdmBorkBork That's true. LaTeX is the best system I have tried, but it's still pretty irritating when it doesn't work.
 
Once you start with LaTeX, it is impossible to go back to Word.
Although some things leave to be desired (inconsistent syntax, craploads of packages, etc.), the quality of the document it produces and the control you have on how it produces it is infinitely more satistfying than anything in Word
 
LaTeX is also better than Word for collaborative projects, as it's text based and we can use git.
 
The only things I've seen better have been specific layout programs, like InDesign or QuarkXPress, but those (usually) require the math formulas to be pre-rendered as a PNG or the like
 
Btw, I'm adding operators %= and ^= to Röda. Should I add //= and make /= change integers to floatings or keep /= as it is?
Currently x /= 2 floors x if it was integer.
 
I'm screwed, I'm working on my presentation 5 minutes before presentation
 
2:59 PM
@KritixiLithos Just keep calm and be convincing.
 
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Mike BufardeciThis is how we roll Piet is an interesting programming language for a number of reasons. Today we will focus on one reason: the roll command. Piet is a stack-based language and rolling is a powerful way to manipulate the stack. The roll command pops the top two elements of the stack and uses th...

 
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@fergusq I'd have separate syntax for floored division vs true division, and use / for true division
 

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