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Zacharee1

6:29 PM

tmobile's doing some site updates

maybe server migrations too

the site is slowwww

Nathan Osman

So it looks like https://openssl.org changed the URLs for all of their documentation and now links everywhere a… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/814176509506109440

Tweeted by nathanosman_dev on December 28, 2016 at 6:29 PM

Argh.

You aren't supposed to change URLs.

Zacharee1

lol

Videonauth

@NathanOsman This is why I'm only bookmark entry sites

Nathan Osman

I'm not sure why people think changing URLs is helpful.

Hizqeel

@Zacharee1 Isn't it?

Zacharee1

6:45 PM

@NathanOsman well the change from ubuntu.stackexchange.com to askubuntu.com was certainly useful

although the redirect still exists

Nathan Osman

@Zacharee1 exactly.

terdon

7:10 PM

@Zacharee1 Ah, indeed, my bad. I hadn't realized they were copying an answer from the site.

Zacharee1

7:21 PM

@Seth LG V20 got Pocketnow's best camera for 2016

0

Q: updated Nvidia drivers: black screen or login loop

i've recently changed my Nvidia driver version & rebooted to login loop Black screen or TTY there are a lot of questions like this one. so lets make this one universal

I don't think he realized askubuntu.com/questions/865541/…

edwinksl

OP will get it... eventually

Zacharee1

we'll see

edwinksl

inb4 OP starts an AMD one

Zacharee1

7:37 PM

lol

sigh askubuntu.com/questions/865541/…

OT askubuntu.com/questions/865545/touchpad-pressure-sensitivity

@Zanna thanks for backing me up :p

edwinksl

unclear why n wasn't capitalized

Zanna

@Zacharee1 hmm just hope it has some effect. Thanks again for maintaining your Q&As :)

Kaz Wolfe

oh god

Zacharee1

@Zanna yeah. You actually reminded me to change NVIDIA to nVIDIA on it :p

@edwinksl look at the logo

lowercase n, but everything else is capital

edwinksl

lmao

nice

Kaz Wolfe

7:49 PM

nvidia.com/content/global/global.php

edwinksl

but the company is NVIDIA Inc

Kaz Wolfe

look at the spelling in the topbar.

Zanna

phew, was gonna have to try pleading fat fingers if I got it wrong

edwinksl

so i guess i just have to remember both

Kaz Wolfe

and the copyright on the bottom.

Zacharee1

7:50 PM

@KazWolfe inconsistent...

Kaz Wolfe

Fully consistent.

Zacharee1

I like nVIDIA better though. Cooler

Kaz Wolfe

The page title says "NVIDIA". The copyright says "NVIDIA"

Zacharee1

@KazWolfe when you said Top Bar, I thought you were referring to the logo, not the title :p

Kaz Wolfe

nvidia.com/page/home.html all the branding says NVIDIA.

Zacharee1

7:51 PM

the logo says nVIDIA

they just cast the n as the same size as the VIDIA

@edwinksl you're lucky to even get a number with Windows 10. It's usually just "Something went wrong."

Videonauth

doesnt matter anyways they patented all forms of typing their name :p

Zacharee1

2

like come on ^

@Videonauth nVidiA

Kaz Wolfe

international.download.nvidia.com/partnerforce-us/…

> NVIDIA is always written in upper case.

Zacharee1

not by me :D

anymore

Hizqeel

nNVIDIA :p

Zacharee1

7:55 PM

but look at the second incorrect logo

logo-wise it's nVIDIA

Videonauth

If politics would be a program of me, I simply would delete and start over from scratch ...

Tweeted by videonauth on December 28, 2016 at 7:46 PM

Zacharee1

@Hizqeel lLol

Kaz Wolfe

I'm looking at the official branding gudielines.

Zacharee1

I'm not a brand

Kaz Wolfe

You're using their brand.

Zacharee1

7:57 PM

not in a legal sense

unless I have my own graphics line

which would be news to me

Kaz Wolfe

Well, no, you are using their brand legally.

So...

I need to go on a "nVIDIA" to "NVIDIA" edit streak.

brb.

Zacharee1

ugh

I'm not marketing or retailing their products. I don't think I have a legal obligation to write NVIDIA :p

edwinksl

maybe i shouldn't have pointed out the lowercase n

Kaz Wolfe

You're providing support for them.

Zacharee1

but not receiving compensation

and I'm not an affiliate

(AFAIK)

Kaz Wolfe

8:00 PM

still providing support.

Zacharee1

point me to where I can be sued for writing nVIDIA

Kaz Wolfe

(technically you can't, but it's still improper to misspell/miscapitalize things)

i don't think you'd want me calling you zacHAREe1

Zacharee1

@KazWolfe it's in their logo

@KazWolfe why not?

I might very well be a hare

What's up, Doc?

:D

Kaz Wolfe

note to self: randomly capitalize @ZachAREe1's name from now on.

Zacharee1

@***KAzwoLFe* have fun

oops

Kaz Wolfe

8:03 PM

Zacharee1

ugh

Kaz Wolfe

:D

Zacharee1

argh

Kaz Wolfe

don't get into fights with sysadmins. we're all stubborn af. And probably a few other things.

Zacharee1

whatever

@KazWolfe >_>

I know that's not the right usage; I just like the emote

Kaz Wolfe

8:08 PM

@Zacharee1 ( ._.)

Zacharee1

ô_Ô

Kaz Wolfe

Does Wine tend to play nice with Optimus/NVIDIA Prime?

Zacharee1

ˆ^ˆ

@KazWolfe WINE just doesn't play nice

Serg

le wild derp appears

Zacharee1

Read. The. Frickin. Question! askubuntu.com/questions/865541/…

Zanna

8:10 PM

haha @Serg thanks for that comment... that question could not be less clear I think!

Serg

@Zanna somehow I think even OP doesn't know what they want lol One of those

Kaz Wolfe

80

Q: Graphics issues after/while installing Ubuntu 16.04/16.10 with NVIDIA graphics

I installed or upgraded to Ubuntu 16.04, but I'm having some problems with my graphics card. The display is blank The display flickers Items on the screen do not display correctly Certain programs complain of graphics issues The computer boots to low-graphics mode Your specific issue may not be...

nvidia graphics

This is a masterpost, right?

Zanna

yeah, canonical post

Zacharee1

yehs

Kaz Wolfe

shouldn't it be CW?

or, more broadly, should canonical posts in general be CW or owned?

Zacharee1

8:15 PM

couldn't you have suggested that when I first made it?

Kaz Wolfe

I wasn't here? I think.

Zacharee1

it's been nearly a year

Kaz Wolfe

Was I? I don't remember.

Serg

@Zanna nice explanation on the sleeping processes question.

Zacharee1

here's one that's not CW though askubuntu.com/questions/505506/…

Serg

8:18 PM

Where's the frickin "Search You Must" hat ? I've been searching on AU for days

Zanna

@KazWolfe it's up to the person making it, imho. I think you should make it CW at the point you decide to stop maintaining it yourself, if it is not made as one already. But I don't think it's a problem to make it non-CW

Kaz Wolfe

eh, might be worth a metapost for site policy. i mean, i don't care either way -- just asking a question.

Zacharee1

is it even possible to convert?

I don't see an option

Zanna

@Serg thanks! I didn't see your answer until I hit the "post your answer" button. OP switched their accept twice haha maybe they will switch again tomorrow

@Zacharee1 in edit view?

Zacharee1

tbh though, it and the AMD one are responsible for 1643 of my rep :p

@Zanna am I missing it?

Zanna

8:20 PM

@Zacharee1 just under the box, to the right, very small?

Zacharee1

I don't see it o_O

Zanna

hmm maybe it's only answers you can do that do then.... uuuh let me check

hmm yep, can't see the option when I try to edit a question

sorry!

Serg

@Zanna the switch was quite deserved, since your answer provides far more info than mine. To be frank, I didn't really care about that question, since OP is doing homework, and I've had no intention of doing it for them. I only gave a slight hint so to speak and went to bed since it was like 5 am already

Zacharee1

ah I see it on the answer

so yeah

Kaz Wolfe

Conversions are weird, I think.

You should be able to make your own question/answer CW in most cases. Otherwise, you need mod involvement.

Serg

8:24 PM

Um . . . iirc you can always turn your answer into CW. Is there an issue with that somewhere ?

Zacharee1

I don't plan on trying it atm :p

questions can't be converted though

Kaz Wolfe

oh, hi, a friendly mod.

Impart your wisdom upon us lowly peasants!

Zacharee1

I kind of wish my laptop had media control keys

oh well

Serg

Wooo, 1942 on U&L. I need to push a bit more there, and I'll hit 2k

Zacharee1

it is kind of strange that I have a decidated button and an Fn combo to toggle my touchpad though

Zanna

8:27 PM

@Serg hmmm thanks... :)

Zacharee1

@Serg downvote time!

when's the next mod election?

edwinksl

ez downvotes

Serg

@Zacharee1 cocks a shotgun come at me breh

Zacharee1

huehuehue

Kaz Wolfe

@Zacharee1 probably within the next 3 years.

Zacharee1

8:31 PM

@Zanna had better be active still :p

Zanna

@Zacharee1 :D

Zacharee1

Am I wrong? I thought this was fine meta.askubuntu.com/questions/16472/…

Kaz Wolfe

No, he's right.

Flags are not for technically inaccurate or altogether wrong answers.

Zacharee1

I swear I've been told that I should flag those

Kaz Wolfe

> declined - flags should not be used to indicate technical inaccuracies, or an altogether wrong answer

Zacharee1

8:41 PM

hmm

Kaz Wolfe

from me flagging this as NAA

But the edge case is "dangerously incorrect"

Thomas Ward

that's very old btw

@Seth I bring greetings to thee

Zacharee1

what happened to the VLQ flag?!

Kaz Wolfe

As in, a user asking "How do I delete a folder" being told rm -rf --no-preserve-root / or doing an @terdon... That deserves a VLQ/NAA flag.

hi @ThomasWard.

Serg

@Zanna does sed master have a minute for code explanation plz ?

Kaz Wolfe

8:43 PM

so, glorious mod, we have a debate for you to settle.

Zacharee1

yes pls

Thomas Ward

@KazWolfe I'm on my phone so i can't be super helpful right now

Serg

@KazWolfe @Zacharee1 no debate, ban both

Kaz Wolfe

namely "should masterposts/canonical posts be CW"

Thomas Ward

I'm also caffeine deprived

Kaz Wolfe

8:44 PM

@Serg b-but i'm helpful!

Zanna

@Serg if I can help I totally will, but sed master terdon is not here :)

Kaz Wolfe

\o/ @Tim's alive!

Nathan Osman

Serg is also a sed wizard.

Serg

@Zanna Take a look at this answer : unix.stackexchange.com/a/333101/85039 The author uses sed '=' file.txt to add line numbers before each line, is what i understand. What I want to know is what exactly that '=' operator does

Tim

Hi o/

Serg

8:45 PM

@NathanOsman Oh, no, I'm a sed n00b. Maybe semi-intermediate awk and python user but by no means a wizard anywhere

\o Hullo Tim

Zacharee1

@Tim did you get my latest comment?

Thomas Ward

throws sticks at @NathanOsman

Kaz Wolfe

So, yeah, everyone go vote in the Masterpost CW debate of 2016!

Nathan Osman

@Serg Oooooh. awk and sed - I always get them mixed up.

Tim

@Zacharee1 Yeah hi :)

Thomas Ward

8:46 PM

@KazWolfe what was your question?

Tim

sorry if I got annoyed there lol

Nathan Osman

@KazWolfe link plz.

Kaz Wolfe

3 mins ago, by Kaz Wolfe

namely "should masterposts/canonical posts be CW"

@NathanOsman it's in this chat.

Zacharee1

@KazWolfe flag is disagree?

Thomas Ward

@KazWolfe Meta

@KazWolfe this type of thing belongs on meta.

Kaz Wolfe

8:47 PM

to meta, then. i guess.

Nathan Osman

I do not see it here...

Kaz Wolfe

we just don't seem to have a clear-cut policy for this sort of stuff.

Zacharee1

MetaMetaMetaMetaMeta METAAAA

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Serg

@Zanna ah, I think i found it ! It's in the manual under "Zero- or One- address commands"

Tim

I have https on my website now too.

Zanna

8:47 PM

@Serg the = operator simply prints the line numbers to STDOUT grymoire.com/Unix/Sed.html#uh-48

@Serg ah nice :)

Nathan Osman

@Tim Good job. Internet high-five :D

Zacharee1

@Tim I think flagging is valid though. The Help Center doesn't explicitly state against, at least where I can find, and the MetaSE post you linked addresses NAA and says use mod flag otherwise

Nathan Osman

Tim

@NathanOsman It was much easier than expected - CloudFlare offer free certificates.

Nathan Osman

(Hmm... that's kinda small. Must have used Trump's hand to trace it.)

Zacharee1

8:49 PM

lol

edwinksl

lmao

Tim

@Zacharee1 Yeah, use the custom flag if you want, but I expect it will be declined normally.

Zacharee1

@Tim not in my experience

Nathan Osman

@Tim Still, that's a very good thing to do.

Zacharee1

although I haven't checked my flag history lately...

Serg

8:50 PM

Very interesting functionality . . .

Tim

hmmm the issue is flagging incorect answers bypasses the whole community moderation.

If the flagger and the moderator are both wrong, that's 2 people who have removed an answer between them.

answers don't even get shaded out until at least 3 people have downvoted.

Zacharee1

@Tim I don't know how mods act, but you did link a Q&A that specifically said to use it :p

Tim

@Zacharee1 Yes tbf I did

Nathan Osman

What's the command to activate concentration again?

Tim

But I would rather the mods didn't remove it

Zacharee1

8:51 PM

how do I check my flag history?

Tim

they should just downvote too

Zacharee1

@Tim well that depends on the moderator. Some might wait for multiple downvotes, others might also agree it's incorrect.

Nathan Osman

@Zacharee1 askubuntu.com/users/flag-summary/274320

Zacharee1

maybe others will wait for multiple flags?

thx

Nathan Osman

@Zacharee1 You should check that at least once an hour. You don't want any inaccuracies to linger for more than a few minutes.

:P

Zacharee1

8:53 PM

huh?

Nathan Osman

It's a joke.

Zacharee1

I know

I don't get it :p

Nathan Osman

Y'know, those people who sit in front of Facebook for hours and continually watch the page refresh so that they can comment on posts immediately?

Well like that, only for flags :P

Never mind.

Kaz Wolfe

ok, CW question posted. I'll wait for MetaBot to pick it up.

Nathan Osman

It was funnier in my head.

Ask Ubuntu Meta

8:54 PM

0

Q: What is site policy for "canonical posts" and Community Wiki status?

As of the time of writing, we have a rather large number of what can be considered "canonical posts", or posts that are basically frequent dupe-targets and answer very broad/general questions. However, within these posts, there seems to be a disconnect as to posts reaching Community Wiki status....

discussion canonical-questions community-wiki

Kaz Wolfe

speak of the devil, lol

Zacharee1

that was fast

Nathan Osman

That was fast.

@AskUbuntuMeta good job.

Zacharee1

what happens when a Q/A becomes CW, rep-wise?

does any rep get reversed, or is there just no more rep gain?

Nathan Osman

I believe there is no more gain.

Any reputation earned beforehand is kept.

Tim

8:57 PM

Yes ^^^ is correct

Nathan Osman

> "The original author keeps the reputation gained (or lost) before their post entered community mode."

474

A: What are "Community Wiki" posts?

Why have Community Wiki posts? One of the goals of the website is to be a continually evolving source of good information. Community wiki posts help enhance the wiki aspect of the site. For more information about the proper use of community wiki, see The Future of Community Wiki. How do Com...

So there you go.

Zacharee1

oh nice

Nathan Osman

And I learned something too.

Tim

@NathanOsman And I just learned that "learned" is a valid word.

Zacharee1

wat

Zanna

9:01 PM

I added a comment to the debate on your meta answer @Zacharee1 @Tim

Mitch

@NathanOsman Hello

Will there be nitroshare for android?

Kaz Wolfe

O.O

Nathan Osman

@Tim There are actually two meanings. "learned" is the past tense of the verb "learn" meaning "to acquire knowledge". It is also an adjective meaning "someone who is well educated in something".

Although the spelling is the same, they are pronounced differently.

Kaz Wolfe

Or, in slang, "I learned him a lesson" (learned meaning "taught" in this case).

Zacharee1

lol

@Mitch he speaks!

Nathan Osman

9:02 PM

@Mitch It's in the works. A couple family emergencies delayed things a bit, I'm afraid. But I am still hard at work on the next desktop version, which will be released at the same time as the Android version.

Tim

@NathanOsman I've always used the British English "learnt".

Nathan Osman

@KazWolfe That's not proper usage though. The correct word is "taught".

Zacharee1

learn'd -- past tense; learnéd -- adjective

@NathanOsman hence "slang"

Kaz Wolfe

> slang

Nathan Osman

That was before your edit :P

Anyway...

Mitch

9:03 PM

@NathanOsman Thanks. Hope things get better

Kaz Wolfe

no?

Zacharee1

@NathanOsman it always said slang lol

Nathan Osman

@Mitch They have but it caused some delays :)

Kaz Wolfe

chat.stackexchange.com/messages/34401057/history

Nathan Osman

Lost about a month's worth of productivity.

Kaz Wolfe

9:03 PM

slang was always there.

Zacharee1

@NathanOsman what this "productivity" you speak of?

Nathan Osman

@Zacharee1 Anything but this: amazon.com/…

"QuickStart" and everything... so it must be productive.

Tim

lol

Nathan Osman

Somebody needs to take away my puns for the day. They're missing the mark.

Anyway, I gotta run.

Tim

So I use OneDrive to backup my photographs from my phone - and it has built in OCR

Nathan Osman

9:07 PM

That is frightening.

Zacharee1

lol

Tim

Have a look at this photo:

Serg

edwinksl

cat!

Tim

The bottom left of the screen has the word "vivaldi". It picked up the word "vivaldi"!

psimeson

9:10 PM

Has anyone installed VMD 1.9.3 in ubuntu before?

Zacharee1

@Tim impressive

blade19899

> "

Handbrake is one of those Linux gems that, in my experience, provides a certain quality equivalent to VLC. And after 13 years, version 1.0.0. has been released. Here is whats new...

" - HandBrake, The open source video transcoder, releases v1.0.0

Whohooo guess who wrote some crap

Tim

And this is the computer I will hopefully be buying in the summer for university.

blade19899

eurobytes.nl/tutorials/…

fucked up the url xD

Serg

Oh, look , Apple computers are still expensive AF

Meanwhile, I'm trying to steam some buns in my rice cooker. Have no idea how to do it, but will see what happens

Zanna

9:35 PM

Thanks a lot.. but i need to run in perl — Sonal Asija 5 mins ago

gah! ^

@Serg all the best ^_^

Zacharee1

lol

Tim

@Serg Mhh, they went up a lot after brexit

the pound is at $1.2 and British tax is 20%, so $ prices are close to £ prices now...

Zacharee1

@Tim $1300 is still a lot for a computer

Tim

@Zacharee1 yes

@Zacharee1 Although $180 of that is the trackpad and the keyboard

and I do get 10% off as I'm a student

edwinksl

10:00 PM

@Serg why on earth is there a post on sun yan zi

Byte Commander

90% of $1300 is still a lot for a computer...

Tim

ye

But I want a Mac, and I would like it to be fairly high specs so it lasts a good few years without an update.

I really love how the apple ecosystem works with the phone notifications on the mac etc

Zacharee1

10:15 PM

But you can do that with Windows and Cortana on Android (or AirDroid, PushBullet, Yappy, etc)

not as polished, yeah, but a lot cheaper

Serg

@edwinksl because I am subscribed to Sun Yanzi's fan group on facebook ;) duh

Serg

10:34 PM

I think my steamed buns came out fairly good, but i need to steam them for longer time and add more water into the pot

Serg le cook . I'm gonna open restaurant "Linux and Giggles". Menu orders only from command-line

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Byte Commander

Wait... steamed buns? Wet bread? o.O

Btw, review again, guys. Queue's up to 80 again.

Windows 3.1

10:50 PM

hello

Videonauth

Tim

11:08 PM

@Zacharee1 I have an iPhone 6s

terdon

@ByteCommander Check again >:)

Tim

And it's really not as well integrated - I'll be able to answer and make phone calls on the mac

And handoff looks super useful. Start writing an email on my phone, continue with one click on the mac

I've never liked cortana as much as Siri

I can review in 45 minutes

Serg

@ByteCommander technically , yes, it's wet bread. Although, technically, it's only slightly moist.

Also mom made russian dumplings, so i'm gonna be having it with spicy mayo

Basically, it's just mayo mixed with sriracha. That's what they used to do in one Sushi restaurant where i worked couple times

TheXed

Hi

Serg

hullo

TheXed

11:20 PM

What's up?

Serg

My Ubuntu computer - that's what's up . . . and running ;p

TheXed

Cool 😎

So what it's the command for ordering some of those steam dumplings?

Serg

getdumplings --count <INT> --type=<steamed|fried> --sauce=<soy,sriracha,mayo,hotmayo>

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I've taken it way too seriously haven't i ?

Byte Commander

11:46 PM

Wow, that boy has amazing fingers:

Dragonforce Through The Fire And Flames Piano

►

Serg

You know, the older I get, the more gifts for Christmas and New Year seem meaningless

All I really want for Christmas and New Year is respect . . . That seems to be the only thing I truly lack

3

Byte Commander

I lack both gifts and respect, so...

Let's get 2016 over, finally.

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