The h Bar

@DanielSank to be honest, I don't know what that says...google translate says it is "starches in greek" though I'm really guessing it's "do you speak greek" in which case, no, I don't.

DanielSank

@BernardoMeurer's type: female.

^ rekt

Bernardo Meurer

@DanielSank Not even true!

mochacat

@heather they let me in!! they didn't have the paper though :( its a nice library though

thanks sci-hub

heather

9:38 PM

@mochacat ::sighs:: at least they let you in.

Bernardo Meurer

My type speaks a weird language, is tall and can handle my almost inhuman lazyness

Which is why I love my neighbour

heather

@BernardoMeurer do you count a. English, b. algebra (math), or c. python as a weird language?

mochacat

you should come to canada heather, its not even that cold where i'm from

heather

=P

DanielSank

He might count Haskell.

Bernardo Meurer

9:39 PM

@heather No, learn an eastern european language or something

@DanielSank You are correct

heather

@mochacat it's a bit cold here, not too bad yet though.

DanielSank

but in general "weird language" means {German, anything Slavic, Spanish}.

heather

@BernardoMeurer I'll go with Haskell. I know someone who speaks Russian. and I'm taking Spanish I this year.

Bernardo Meurer

@DanielSank No spanish for me, thanks

mochacat

i love spanish.

heather

9:41 PM

@DanielSank, what did that greek phrase mean?

Bernardo Meurer

It's the Java of human languages

It's crap

mochacat

i've always had problems pronouncing french with the r but apparently it sounds just right in spanish

heather

I thought Java was fine...?

DanielSank

Que bueno. Hablamos en Espanol para que Bernardo no entienda.

heather

I thought it was JS that was, uh, bad.

mochacat

9:41 PM

js has its flaws

DanielSank

@heather It meant "you speak Greek?", but I probably spelled stuff wrong.

Bernardo Meurer

@DanielSank I understand everything you goofus, I just hate it

heather

@DanielSank oh =) nope, I don't.

Bernardo Meurer

JS is shit

so is Java

VITAS - Седьмой элемент / The 7th Element

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@DanielSank Now I see why you're learning Russian

heather

@DanielSank Si, muy bien.

mochacat

9:43 PM

just anything but japanese ohhhh god

DanielSank

@heather Bernardo odia al Espanol.

AccidentalFourierTransform

oh hey I speak spanish sometimes

mochacat

japanese is one of those languages that you have no hope speaking unless you're born into it

DanielSank

@BernardoMeurer I have never hidden the fact that part of my original interest in Russian was... well, a particular Russian.

heather

@DanielSank Bernardo odia al JavaScript.

DanielSank

9:45 PM

Todos nosotros odiamos al js.

Es el idioma del diablo.

@EmilioPisanty please correct our Spanish. I'm a decade and a half out of practice.

heather

@DanielSank, cierto.

mochacat

hÕola

Bernardo Meurer

@DanielSank *el idioma I think

AccidentalFourierTransform

@DanielSank Es el idioma del diablo :/

heather

and I'm a semester in practice =P just started learning.

Bernardo Meurer

9:46 PM

Goddamn broken Portuguese

Stupid language

AccidentalFourierTransform

Spanish is tough too ;-)

Bernardo Meurer

YOU SHOULD ALL BE LEARNING PORTUGUESE

DanielSank

^ False

Bernardo Meurer

WE ARE THE REAL IBERIC KINGS

mochacat

oh boy

DanielSank

9:47 PM

Portuguese = get_drunk_and_speak(Spanish)

7

AccidentalFourierTransform

^^^^

5

Bernardo Meurer

@DanielSank Not true, Portuguese is to Spanish like C is to Java

DanielSank

@BernardoMeurer Don't make me get out the list.

I'll do it.

Bernardo Meurer

No you wouldn't

mochacat

im actually curious

what is the list

do i want to see the list??

heather

9:49 PM

@BernardoMeurer this conversation got weird impressively fast

AccidentalFourierTransform

someone accidentally starred my message instead of Daniel's lol

heather

i will star it as well, as to make it not lonely =)

DanielSank

@AccidentalFourierTransform I starred yours on purpose, because I found it hilarious.

The triple up-arrow... I hadn't seen emphasis expressed like that before.

Bernardo Meurer

I want nothing with spanish

DanielSank

Except the women.

Bernardo Meurer

9:50 PM

Shut up

DanielSank

My curse is still in effect.

Bernardo Meurer

That was only once

a moment of weakness

AccidentalFourierTransform

$\uparrow \uparrow\uparrow\uparrow$

DanielSank

I will now rek @BernardoMeurer in a way he has never been rekt before. This will be a landmark in his life:

heather

@DanielSank, share the list =)

Bernardo Meurer

9:51 PM

@DanielSank Stahp

AccidentalFourierTransform

oh boy here it comes

Bernardo Meurer

Don't you share that

heather

@AccidentalFourierTransform I turned on MathJax just to see the quadruple arrow =P

DanielSank

@BernardoMeurer Are you going to get mad if I do it?

Bernardo Meurer

My women will gather and kill me

heather

9:52 PM

@DanielSank, do it (::magically appearing crowd starts chanting::)

Bernardo Meurer

I don't care

My women might

mochacat

do it do it do it do it

DanielSank

This is from Bernardo via google chat. Previously, after he expressed dislike for Spanish, I had cursed him to fall in love with a Spanish woman.

DANIEL
F--- YOU
DUDE
WHAT THE HELL
THERE’S AN AMAZINGLY BEAUTIFUL GIRL NEXT TO ME
AND SHE’S TALKING SPANISH
DUDE WHY
--31 minutes later--
Got her number
Lol

6

@BernardoMeurer <3

Bernardo Meurer

@DanielSank I WAS WEAK

heather

@BernardoMeurer, =D =D I will forever be holding this over your head =D

Bernardo Meurer

9:53 PM

@heather At least I got her number

Also, in my defence, the yields were totally worth is

heather

@BernardoMeurer, lol

@DanielSank, share the "list" as well =)

[OFFICIAL VIDEO] Hallelujah - Pentatonix

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^great song

DanielSank

@heather The list isn't ready for public consumption yet.

AccidentalFourierTransform

DanielSank

Bernardo and I need to work on it.

mochacat

@BernardoMeurer why do you hate spanish anyway

AccidentalFourierTransform

9:56 PM

translation: I need to buy a new computer

heather

@DanielSank, gotcha

mochacat

@AccidentalFourierTransform that looks bad. but again its in spanish

DanielSank

The list matches each programming language up with a natural language.

i.e. C <--> Chinese because they're simple, old, and widely used.

AccidentalFourierTransform

@mochacat "Windows detected a problem in the hard disk"

DanielSank

English <--> python because they're super popular, have kind of loose rules, etc.

mochacat

9:57 PM

what did you put assembly up with

DanielSank

Nothing yet

The list needs work.

Pissed off layman

What's BASIC?

mochacat

@AccidentalFourierTransform oh god that happened to me once. i took it to the best buy and the guys gave me the 'its over' look

DanielSank

Guys, the list isn't done.

mochacat

this list is a real prospect

heather

9:58 PM

How 'bout JS?

@mochacat it seems xkcd worthy

AccidentalFourierTransform

@mochacat well, the laptop is rather old, I should buy a new one anyway

DanielSank

@heather I'm pushing for Portuguese but Bernardo wouldn't like it.

AccidentalFourierTransform

what about brainf*k?

mochacat

@heather definitely xkcd worthy

Bernardo Meurer

JS will only be Portuguese over my dead body

DanielSank

9:59 PM

bjorn.tipling.com/if-programming-languages-were-weapons

@BernardoMeurer But it's the language you would invent if you're inebriated... it makes sense!

mochacat

LOL the js one

Bernardo Meurer

@DanielSank Lisp is the language you would create if you were drunk

Super weird, but truly genius

DanielSank

@mochacat The null round in the Java machine gun is my favorite.

I've spent all day trying to figure out how to implement Futures.

Pissed off layman

Grunting <---> machine code?

DanielSank

I wanna get it right without looking at someone else's code.

Oh @BernardoMeurer, I almost have a fully asynchronous event loop (i.e. callbacks and make asynchronous calls) written from scratch.

But I'm stuck on nested futures.

Bernardo Meurer

10:02 PM

I recently tried doing that in Rust

I got rekd

DanielSank

Lemme get it right in python and then we should put our heads together in Rust.

Bernardo Meurer

Yessir

DanielSank

@AccidentalFourierTransform Finnish.

Bernardo Meurer

Also, I am transcribing all the 100 pages of chem notes to LaTeX

So no one else has to go through the shit I went through to learn general chem

DanielSank

nice

You're a good man.

Sanya

10:04 PM

"Warning! You are about to send a message of size 25,5 MB. Are you sure that you want to do this?" I cannot decide whether I should be happy about the program trying to be helpful or feel insulted for the program apparently assuming that I have no idea what I'm doing

AccidentalFourierTransform

@DanielSank I was thinking of some primitive language, with very few words

something from Africa maybe

DanielSank

@AccidentalFourierTransform I just said Finnish because it's hard.

heather

@BernardoMeurer, I'd be glad to help if you'd like. I have time.

AccidentalFourierTransform

@DanielSank joka sanoi Suomi on vaikeaa?

DanielSank

wat?

mochacat

10:06 PM

google translate gives "Finland said that it is difficult?"

heather

"Finland said that it is difficult?" according to google translate

AccidentalFourierTransform

close enough

heather

@mochacat, beat me to the punch

Bernardo Meurer

@heather I guess you can't do much of the Portuguese translating, but if you want to type in equations, reactions and things like that I would be very thankful

AccidentalFourierTransform

Fresh Prince: Google Translated

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heather

10:07 PM

@BernardoMeurer, i'd be glad too.

DanielSank

@BernardoMeurer how do I modify a variable in python from within a nested function?

heather

like, a global variable @DanielSank?

Bernardo Meurer

@DanielSank Make it a global, that's the only way I know

DanielSank

@BernardoMeurer That's weird. Really?

heather

@BernardoMeurer, do you have a github repository you're working on, or...?

(for the notes)

Bernardo Meurer

10:08 PM

@DanielSank Maybe use nonlocal ?

@heather I'm setting it up

mochacat

@DanielSank this might help: stackoverflow.com/questions/6198709/…

DanielSank

Oh neat, I guess that's a py3 thing.

Yeah I guess the mutable container thing works. Gross.

heather

@BernardoMeurer, okay

mochacat

i'm trying to work through the odin project to try and learn webdev

for like the 3rd time now, i keep forgetting everything i learn

any tips? what do you guys do to help you remember

AccidentalFourierTransform

brush your teeth after every meal

wear clean underwear

drink a lot of water

Pissed off layman

10:13 PM

The best way to not forget what you learn is to understand it.

For me.

mochacat

@AccidentalFourierTransform should i be brushing before or after? or both

@Pissedofflayman i understand it... and then i stop understanding it

AccidentalFourierTransform

fork in one hand, toothbrush in the other

heather

what @Pissedofflayman said - understanding what I'm doing intuitively. Also, using it on a project helps me a lot.

AccidentalFourierTransform

and improvise

mochacat

improvise. i like that

do any of you guys care to share your github usernames? i just want to see how you guys organize everything

@heather yea i've been trying to work stuff into projects. it helps ALOT

DanielSank

10:17 PM

@mochacat alot

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Bernardo Meurer

@heather github.com/bemeurer/chemistry

Wait, I'm pushing the initial commit

mochacat

thanks :))

heather

@BernardoMeurer, okay

DanielSank

@heather @BernardoMeurer you guys should really fix issue #1.

heather

@mochacat physicsnerd - I'm not very organized though, especially because I only recently started using github.

Bernardo Meurer

10:18 PM

@heather What's your GitHub name again?

physicsnerd

Right

AccidentalFourierTransform

k peeps

its kinda late here

sleepy time for me

DanielSank

ciao

mochacat

cya

AccidentalFourierTransform

adios :-)

heather

@AccidentalFourierTransform, good night =)

I'm typing from both the Linux and Chrome sides of my computer

=)

Slereah

10:27 PM

-7

Q: I don't know what this is

I had this picture that mysteriously appeared on my phone and ive sent to a couple of paranormal people and I don't know who took it or why but there appears to be a black funnel looking thing in the background of my living room and I was just surfing the net and came across worm holes and I thou...

wormholes

spooky

mochacat

anyone have experience with freecodecamp?

heather

@mochacat, never heard of it (::googles::)

mochacat

man that post is spooky

Bernardo Meurer

@DanielSank how do I make this work:

\[
    \SI{1}{\micro\metre} = \SI{10^{-6}}{\metre}
\]

DanielSank

Here's how I'd do it:

\begin{equation}
1\,\mu\text{m} = 10^{-6}\,\text{m}
\end{equation}

To save typing, maybe make a macro for \text{m}.

Bernardo Meurer

10:31 PM

But I wanted to use the siunitx package :/

DanielSank

Ok I've never used it.

Can't help you there.

Bernardo Meurer

Lemme see if the TeX peeps can help

if not I go your way

Got it

heather

hmm, what's a pdf viewer for linux?

Kenshin

is an application that allows you to view pdf's in linux

heather

what is?

mochacat

10:41 PM

i think @heather means a specific pdf viewer (as in one she could download)

heather

@mochacat, I do indeed, thank you.

mochacat

i use okular, it works pretty well

heather

okay

sudo apt-get okular or...?

mochacat

oh yeah sorry i keep forgetting people do that in linux

Sanya

which distribution are you using?

mochacat

10:43 PM

yea

sudo apt-get install okular

heather

okay, installed, thanks

@BernardoMeurer, do you just want me to type the LaTeX for the equations into the chemistry.tex file, or...?

Bernardo Meurer

@heather I'm doing some translating now, and leaving TODOs along the way :)

mochacat

arite i'm going to go for a run, cya guys

heather

@mochacat, see you around

good luck with your teacup problem =)

David Z

11:11 PM

@heather you could try installing Kile to use as a LaTeX editor

heather

@DavidZ, I'm using texmaker

I just didn't know what exactly @BernardoMeurer wanted me to work on.

David Z

Oh, whatever

heather

@DavidZ, is something wrong?

I'm sorry if I misunderstood...

were you suggesting I use Kile to replace texmaker?

Bernardo Meurer

@heather I'll did some translating, and now I got a call, I'll push it and then you can fix the TODOs

David Z

No, I didn't know you had a dedicated editor already. Asking about PDF viewers slightly implied you didn't.

heather

11:13 PM

@BernardoMeurer, okay.

David Z

I mean, I think Kile is the best but that's just me :-P

heather

@DavidZ, oh, I understand =) I hear that which LaTeX editor to use is a, ahem, strong subject, to say the least.

Bernardo Meurer

@heather Pushed

David Z

LaTeX editor wars are small potatoes compared to vi vs emacs

heather

@BernardoMeurer, pulled, I'll get to work =)

Bernardo Meurer

11:15 PM

@DavidZ Indeed

heather

@DavidZ I've used vi/vim, what's emacs?

David Z

Another editor

Bernardo Meurer

@heather It's the bad version of Vim

::hides::

heather

@BernardoMeurer, I'll stick with vim then =)

looked at wiki article on emacs, it seems like it is only maybe better than vi/vim if you know lisp.

huh, lisp looks kind of cool.

::pulls up online compiler::

Bernardo Meurer

11:31 PM

@heather Go input equations!

heather

@BernardoMeurer, sorry, sorry! ::goes back to latex::

=)

Bernardo Meurer

:P

heather

hmm, I think i need to get the siunix package

siunitx, sorry

how do i install that?

Bernardo Meurer

No clue, I just have all the latex packages :P

heather

=P

ah, found the right command

sudo apt-get install texlive-science

Bernardo Meurer

11:36 PM

Bloody Ubuntu

heather

(includes a few other packages too, but they'll probably be useful at some point)

@BernardoMeurer, what's wrong with ubuntu?

Pissed off layman

are you going to try and type up organic chemistry reactions too?

Bernardo Meurer

@heather I don't like it

specially I don't like apt

heather

@BernardoMeurer, why not?

Bernardo Meurer

Long story, buy me a beer once and I'll explain

heather

11:41 PM

::uses meaningless internet points to buy virtual beer::

okay, package installed, i'll start working on the first to-do.

Pissed off layman

11:58 PM

Did the Big Bang Break the Laws of Thermodynamics? With Sean Carroll

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