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8:00 PM
I'm gonna add Babel and maybe typescript when I have time
@Downgoat npm is used just for installing libs
 
wait what
 
wtf
 
you're using npm for modules and not package json
that is bad idea
 
@Downgoat Just for terminal utils.
 
package.json is basically a makefile for JavaScript
 
8:00 PM
Like uglify js
my python script imitates makefile:
❯ build
** No build target specified. Stop.
 
package.json imitate Makefile too but it's not make
 
@TuxCopter My build script is mostly minifying stuff and moving the stuff to the build folder
Because chrome literally loads extensions from a regular folder; and you upload them to the dashboard as a zip
@Downgoat What should I do? I want to keep my build size down, it's 75 kb right now
node_modules is on gitignore
No jquery or semicolons
^ my extension adds this to google images
Hi, @Gareth
 
Why'd you ping him? I don't think he's in here
 
@Gareth Your SO profile says you live in Wales, but your PPCG profile says you live in Denbigh in the UK... ?
 
@TuxCopter Denbigh is Wales, which is (unfortunately) a part of the UK.
Denbigh is in Wales.
 
8:13 PM
Ahhhh
Make sense because gh can only exist in a language like Welsh :P
 
@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC whoa
 
@TuxCopter Laugh, cough, through, thorough... ;-)
 
... llanfairgogoch
 
The Welsh name for the town is Dinbych.
 
@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC you posted that yesterday
 
8:15 PM
@Zacharee1 If you like it, install it.
 
@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC I did
 
Denbigh is an anglicisation of the name.
 
@Zacharee1 \o/
 
I think it'll come in handy
 
@Zacharee1 Any other tweaks you'd like to see?
 
8:16 PM
not sure
 
@Zacharee1 How 'bout a "download" button on google images?
 
sure
 
@Zacharee1 It might get cluttered and it's not as useful
Making it was harder than it looks; lots of image editing, bureaucracy, and dealing with edgecases. (a "more" button appears in some cases to prevent buttons from overflowing)
@Zacharee1 That reminds me, do you see a "more" button on google images? Google sometimes adds two extra buttons relating to google photos under mystical circumstances.
New accounts and signed out accounts seem to show the button
 
not just now
but I have a 1080p screen
 
@Zacharee1 So no more button?
Screen size doesn't change it
It is linked with accounts
Shower thought: If something takes literally forever to load, it's called "not loading".
 
8:29 PM
Shower tought: It is possible that this shower tought is not a shower tought?
 
@TuxCopter RuntimeError: Bot crashed. Would you like to restart 'CrazyPython'?
 
@TuxCopter `/O\`
 
Now I need to play SHENZHEN I/O bai
 
> I'm really surprised this challenge hasn't been posted before. ... [closed as an exact duplicate 1 min later]
 
8:34 PM
that made me chuckle
 
@ETHproductions hahaha
 
well, i guess they tried searching "print the input" and couldn't find anything
they didn't know that it's called a cat program
 
@PhiNotPi Ah, yes, it is IID then
 
Hate it for users this happens to. SE's search function should include synonyms
 
Can I haz users 4 useful thing? Thing @ here
27 mins ago, by noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC
user image
 
8:37 PM
5
Q: What are some functions that golfing languages tend NOT to have, or do worse than conventional languages?

tuskiomiI'd like to write challenges that encourage people away from golf languages, and into a more competitive space. what are some things that golf languages tend to not do, or do not as well compared to non golf languages? For all intents and purposes, we'll consider a language a golf language if it...

Vote to reopen please?
 
There is very little actual discussion going on in here.
 
@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC would appreciate a userscript/firefox version
 
@PhiNotPi That's a good idea. The values in the subsequence are conditionally independent given the previous state of the chain
 
@arda FF has a very complex and über thorough system; I can send the unpacked version to you and have you load it in developer mode
 
@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC well, I can do so, but a userscript version would be even better if it wouldn't be too hard to implement as it could be updated by you anytime, and it'd be easy to sync between installations
 
8:47 PM
@arda Yeah, this was mostly designed for computerphobic end users
 
@LuisMendo from here I can probably create all sorts of factories... the key is to try to be as efficient as possible (incorporate both sub-components into the process instead of throwing one away).
It's basically a 2-input-coins problem.
 
@arda I plan to add more things that wouldn't work for a userscript too.
 
@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC anything that allows me to steal memes faster is good, imo
 
@arda OK, how about download? Any other tweak suggestions? ^_^
 
instant post to twitter and discord for even faster meme stealing :P :P
Jokes aside, you could put a small button on thumbnail that gives you link to full size image. That'd make stuff much faster.
 
8:50 PM
@arda huh? Oh I get it now.
Would be about 150% harder though :P
 
Let me haggle with Firefox Developer Hub and try to get the unlisted link
(why isn't it anywhere?? all I see is edit settings)
This UI is overcomplicated...
 
@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC Something like this, maybe? (kinda nsfw images inside, be warned) stackapps.com/questions/6236/chat-starred-images-expander there is a gif there that kinda shows what I mean, download, open in new tab and copy link buttons instead of star button maybe though
 
@arda dafuq:
But before that, it has to go through technical review where firefox admins have to look at my ugly code.
@arda I thought you meant hover over image > copy image url link button inline @ google images
@arda At least FF extension API is pretty much 100% compatible with the chrome api
 
@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC nope, small buttons that pop up when you hover that allow you to copy/download stuff faster.
@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC good luck with the technical review :)
 
8:56 PM
@arda I thought FF was more open too.
 
> Your add-on was rejected during the technical review. Reason: ahhh my eyes bleed
2
 
@TuxCopter There's like hardcoding of localization... for one locale... It's supposed to be simple and lightweight though
 
> Your add-on was rejected during the technical review. Reason: xkcd.com/1513 xkcd.com/1695
 
Do you know how to convert a script that is injected into a webpage (independent of the mother addon) into a userscript?
It passed all of the auto checks.
@arda Here's a tiny snippet of the code for you to judge me:
 
8:58 PM
ction checkUsage() {
    var tables = document.getElementsByClassName('_Ccb irc_but_r')
    for (var i = 0; i < tables.length; i++) {
        var buttonRow = tables[i].firstChild.firstChild
        if (!hasClass(buttonRow, 'sigma-seen')) {
            var node;
            // add copy image URL button
            buttonRow.innerHTML = buttonHTML + buttonRow.innerHTML
            buttonRow.classList.add("sigma-seen")
            if (buttonRow.childNodes.length >= 6) {
 
It's not TOO bad. I'm not JS master though.
 
Basically you get the guts of your addon exposed to FF admins for them to judge away.
@arda This is the worst part:
var buttonHTML, flipButtonHTML, MORE, LESS
if ('@@ui_locale' !== 'zh_CN') {
    MORE = 'More'
    LESS = 'Less'
    buttonHTML = '<td class="sigma-default"><a class="irc_but i3599 sigma-copy"><span class="irc_but_t">Copy Image URL</span></a></td>'
    flipButtonHTML = '<td><a class="irc_but ic3599 sigma-flip"><span class="irc_but_t sigma-flip-inner">More</span></a></td>'
} else {
    MORE = '更多'
    LESS = '更少'
    buttonHTML = '<td class="sigma-default"><a class="irc_but i3599 sigma-copy"><span class="irc_but_t">复制图片链接</span></a></td>'
@@ui_locale is replaced by the browser with the locale.
 
@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC put source on GH?
 
@Downgoat It is, I might share it with you if I trust you...
 
@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC -1 for no react/jsx
 
9:02 PM
@Downgoat I don't want bloat.
@Downgoat Also no format strings in JS.
Everything is minified in my proj
 
@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC both of these messages are false
 
@Downgoat Without babel?
 
@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC You support only english and chinese?
 
@flawr both "WTF" and "that's amazing"
 
@TuxCopter Erm, it's because of some of the markets
(i don't know chinese)
 
@Downgoat OK, I've added you as a collaborator. Reminder: don't edit anything, don't look at the commit history (pls), don't delete the entire thing, etc.
 
As the old story goes: The little boy's mother was off to market. She worried about her boy, who was always up to some mischief. She sternly admonished him, "Be good. Don't get into trouble. Don't eat all the chocolate. Don't spill all the milk. Don't throw stones at the cow. Don't fall down the well." The boy had done all of these things on other market days. Hoping to head off new trouble, she added, "And don't stuff beans up your nose!" This was a new idea for the boy, who promptly tried it out. In our zeal to head off others' unwise action, we may put forth ideas they have not entertained...
 
> I've added you as a collaborator
don't edit anything
but why
 
@arda because it's private :P
@Downgoat see above
 
oooh
 
9:07 PM
@arda It's 100% free, no credit card, for students!
Just enter a school-issued email (middle school school email worked for me) and it's automatic
 
I have that since last year. It's amazing.
 
@arda Where'd you get dark theme?
 
@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC one of these: gist.github.com/ardaozkal/4319b9b02ba7d27a45ca262283d06a3e (warning: YUGE)
 
@arda Indeed!
 
9:11 PM
@arda also would you mind changing gh avatar to non face avatar?
I prefer your privacy because it makes me not uncomfortable
@arda do you know how to convert a normal regular domain-specific script to a userscript?
 
@arda tysm for that
 
@arda would you mind installing a packaged, single file [hassle-free] add-on that has been signed by Mozilla?
 
@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC My picture is my identity. I don't look that much like that nowadays (more visible effects of stress and sleep deprivation), but I still have that picture everywhere, because loads of people remember me by my picture. I did remove my picture from non-professional-ish platforms, like steam (yeah see this) and arqade etc and am considering changing my twitter picture, but I plan to keep the github one.
 
@arda too much "yuck photo avatar scroll down plz" in my head
 
ಠ_ಠ http or https it still no onebox
 
@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC yep
@Zacharee1 nw
 
Here's an interesting wikipedia article: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…
@arda nw = "not welcome" ?
 
@arda looks like a tron logo to me
just a different font
 
@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC no worries
 
9:19 PM
ohh
I was confused too :p
 
Welp, I never thought I'd check "hear gunshots at the mall" off from my bucket list. (And yes, I'm fine.)
4
 
@El'endiaStarman o_O
 
@arda ohhhhhhhhhh i didn't realize you are who you are
 
@El'endiaStarman okay, please explain more for the sake of my curiosity
 
i didn't realize you're ardaozoakal or whatever from gaming.se
thought you were just another arda
 
9:20 PM
@Zacharee1 That was basically my reaction. I initially thought it was a balloon or inflated bag popping, and then people were sprinting towards the exits...
 
@PhiNotPi You could create factories based on the conditional probabilities. Based on the unconditional probability P seems difficult
 
@arda made my own :p
@El'endiaStarman so it was in the mall?
was someone buying a gun?
 
0
Q: Comments don't onebox

TùxCräftîñg Here is the problem. For some reason Arqade comments don't onebox (I tried with http and https)

 
9:21 PM
@Zacharee1 Yep. I was relatively close to it, probably within 100 feet or so.
 
@Zacharee1 no, shooting a gun
 
@El'endiaStarman On the news, there was a thing like that, but there were no guns found, no intruders, everybody injured was running out. Police investigation result? Zero.
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ duh, but maybe someone was buying a gun (like you can do at Walmart) and made a stupid
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ ardaozkal. See, @noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC, people know me by my full name and picture :P
 
@Zacharee1 No, no gun stores in the mall.
 
9:22 PM
@arda there you go, didn't know the spelling
but cool
@Zacharee1 ik, i was doing a geobits
 
@El'endiaStarman so what happened?
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ long time no see :)
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ I will take from context that means trolling :p
 
yes
> doing a geobits
> geobits
 
> bits
> bit
 
9:23 PM
@Zacharee1 The news is saying that a retired police officer saw two men exchange gunfire. I heard two shots, other people say two or three shots.
 
> t
@El'endiaStarman fun fun fun. Any details on the situation itself?
 
@Zacharee1 Very little.
 
hmm
 
It happened about two hours ago, and there's still lots of police around the mall.
 
@arda stealing your CSS for experiments
 
9:24 PM
Testing Meta comment onebox:
Maybe that would be easier to get rid of Roomba. — Franck Dernoncourt 17 hours ago
 
@El'endiaStarman you still there?
 
@Zacharee1 which one?
 
@arda chatdark
 
@Zacharee1 Nope, got home almost an hour ago.
 
good
 
9:25 PM
Yeah, I wasn't sticking around.
 
TIL touching your hand to your chin in ASL means thanks, but putting it under is like flipping somebody off.
@El'endiaStarman can you confirm
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Yeah, pretty much.
 
There was once a customer that I made a salad for who made that mistake. I knew full well she meant to say "thank you", but she did technically say "f*** you". :P
 
@Zacharee1 that's not mine. I also stole it :P The original one is here and is made by gaming.se and coffee.se moderator fredley. It has fixed-size font on default, mine fork only has that disabled.
 
9:27 PM
lol
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ asl?
 
@El'endiaStarman lol
@arda american sign language
 
ah
 
@arda do you know CSS well?
 
Also just me saying "asl?" sounds pretty weird without context probably.
 
9:28 PM
@DrMcMoylex portal 2?
 
@Zacharee1 A bit.
 
hmm
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ actually, that's pretty great timing. 15 minutes?
 
in 15? or for 15
either is good for me
 
In 15
 
9:29 PM
oh yuck, I don't like this dark script
too bright
 
@arda how many steam games do you have? just wondering
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ 840 something something
 
That one doesn't work but others are just fine... not all of Arqade's comments fail to onebox. — Catija 2 mins ago
wat
 
9:30 PM
@arda wtf
 
@arda wat
 
WAT - Wat wAt waT
 
I might go up to 900 tomorrow
 
taw
 
9:31 PM
wtf wtf wtf wtf wtf
 
@arda do you have a mac?
@arda why?
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ I do not. I have a regular laptop. Ubuntu 16.04 and Windows 10 Pro on dual boot.
 
oh cool
just wondering, because if I right click steam it lists my games amongst some other stuff
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ I didn't buy many games lately, but I want to go up to 1000 by 2017.
 
I was wondering if it would list all 866
@arda wtf
 
9:33 PM
@arda Games are to you what shoes are to some women.
 
@El'endiaStarman yes
 
^^ can agree my house contains 2 women and 44 pairs of shoes
 
@arda did you figure out how to use the add on w/ the download link I sent you?
 
@El'endiaStarman Also iot stuff
I have tons of iot chips
 
@arda Do you know how to use them? I'd love to get my hands on some of them to make useful apps
 
9:36 PM
@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC yup
I can link you some nice stuff if you want.
 
@arda Is there a place I can learn how to?
 
@El'endiaStarman BTW, this only replaces the first instances of each char
 
Also
7 mins ago, by noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC
@arda OK, try this (sigma packaged): https://crazypython.github.io/sigma/sigma-1.0-fx+an.xpi
and
 
@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC well..
 
@ETHproductions Oh, right. The code on GitHub is outdated.
 
9:37 PM
I used to wish GIFv would onebox, but now I'm glad it doesn't...
 
> If the medieval era is the Dark Ages, I nominate the information era as the Dank Ages.
 
function encodeURL(S) {
	var U = encodeURIComponent(S);
	return U.replace(/\(/g,'%28').replace(/\)/g,'%29').replace(/\./g,'%2E');
}
 
@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC most stuff uses arduino language which is mostly C/C++ with some libraries. You can learn that easily by messing with an arduino or on uugh the thing by autodesk
 
@ETHproductions ^^ is the correct code.
 
9:38 PM
Oh, good
 
@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC I am tempted to flag as 'WTF nature'
 
@arda Is there a high level python interface? ALSO UPDATE ON THE EXTENSION PLZ
@TuxCopter God forgot to post to sandbox.
 
@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC What if this IS the sandbox? o.O
3
 
#showertought
 
9:41 PM
he's testing how badly trump will screw up
3
 
@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC I don't think so, and I don't think that you should attempt using python on such a device. Most stuff doesn't even have a mb of ram. There is nodemcu for esp8266 though, but Arduino language is used on more devices. - I'm trying to install the extension.
 
xD
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ what is?
 
9:42 PM
@arda MAJIK
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ mind explosion
 
he's sobbing?
with the pain of explosionness?
 
@El'endiaStarman Capitalism = KotH; politics = latest civilization game
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ makes more sense with sound youtube.com/watch?v=9CS7j5I6aOc
 
9:43 PM
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ a masterpiece
 
@arda this is a gif mind = super blown
 
@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC Something was wrong with Ghandi, then.
 
@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC Check out wemos.cc if you want a cheap yet powerful esp8266 dev board. I'm not affiliated to them.
 
-1 domain is not wem.os
 
9:45 PM
@Zacharee1 Star it, maybe? I need new users
 
done
I think..
 
@Zacharee1 nope
 
@DrMcMoylex ready?
5
 
Star that ^
@Whoever_starred_that: not that!
 
Why?
Also, @noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC You've linked that like 5 times today. I think people are aware of it by now
 
9:49 PM
@DrMcMoylex ok, but it's complicated
snowball affect
@DrMcMoylex It was to make a canonical for starring
 
If people wanted to star it, it would be starred -_-
 
@Geobits It is.
 
Don't star this.
 
@arda okay
 
@arda Done
 
9:51 PM
@arda So tempted.
 
@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC So then there's no problem. Good.
 
@DrMcMoylex starbait failed
 
@arda It has to be inserted cleverly into the conversation
 
I wouldn't say it has to be all that clever though. People are weird.
 
<insert starbait pun about weirdness here>
 
9:54 PM
It does help when the starbait isn't quite so obvious though :P
@ETHproductions Don't do that please. I might die of starbaition.
 
Two content posts on starboard, self-promotion off...
Too much starring!
 
@Geobits Isn't the message asking people to stop starring the most starred message?
 
@TheBitByte it was a joke
 
Probably. I don't keep track though.
 
@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC Woosh
 
9:57 PM
@Geobits so I hear you're quite the jokester
 
@Geobits Puns like that might star you for life
 
@Zacharee1 Am I?
 
@Geobits A regular @KazWolfe
 
are there irregular kaz wolfes?
 
@ConorO'Brien if irregular is also a rhythm word
 
9:58 PM
I'm not too familiar with the comedic styling of a typical KazWolfe.
 
Nov 12 '15 at 22:26, by Doorknob
okay seriously stop abusing stars
only 4 to go :3
 
nahh
 
^^^^^^^
 
DON'T STAR THE ONEBOX
 
@Geobits come to AU General
@TuxCopter :D
 
9:59 PM
okay seriously stop abusing stars
 
star the actual message plz
 
Whoever starred that... just don't.
 
@Zacharee1 No thanks. I don't Ask Ubuntu. I tell it.
 
@Geobits hohoho
 
@TuxCopter Okay s̶t̶a̶r̶i̶o̶u̶s̶l̶y̶ seriously stop the star puns now.
 

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