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Serg

4:04 AM

sigh . . . there's security and there's just annoyance

WinEunuuchs2Unix

excuse me?

Zacharee1

@WinEunuuchs2Unix hjfkfckc.khv,kjvc,khv/

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Ron Paul is being interviewed on Russia Today just now.... kind of weird voice from the past.

@Zacharee1 the most intelligent thing you've said all year :)

Zacharee1

gaSP

WinEunuuchs2Unix

It will be interesting to see if Obama pre-empts my plans for Trump.

Obama still has > 63 days as president.

1. Send Gitmo POW's back to home country government prisons. 2. Withdraw US special forces from Syria.

I'm sure NSA monitors "Gitmo" keywords and forwards them to Commander in Chief.

If not NSA budget would be slashed.

Ohhh Ron Paul just said Obama won Nobel Peace Prize....low blow.

TheXed

4:20 AM

@WinEunuuchs2Unix I think we should give the Gitmo POW's some lead poisoning (if you know what I mean), its cheaper then flying them back home...

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Turkey wants in on Raqaa action to extract ISIS oil business partners. Britain wants to execute British citizens working for ISIS so they can't testify.

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WinEunuuchs2Unix

@TheXed You are scared of GITMO POW's telling the truth... When they are sent back to COO (Country of Origin) their governments will keep them under wraps.... no worries.

TheXed

@WinEunuuchs2Unix nope, don't care about the truth...100% financial decision...

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@SmokeDetector thanks for the hot tip.

Well Gitmo was there before 9/11 and it will be there after 11/9 and the cost of the base will change little... But the moral issue is to send the 100 POW's back to their own governments. Of course Castro should order Gitmo closed but that is a different issue.

TheXed

4:24 AM

you can get a box of lead for about 20 bucks, a plane ticket for about 500

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Of course you can shoot the clinton gang for 20 bucks but it's worth paying 2 million to lock them up for life to teach others not to abuse the USA like they have.

TheXed

Or if you wanted to for the comedic value you load them all up in a military cargo plane, and drop them over the COO without parachutes...

Okay I have to stop I am starting to disturb even myself...

Kaz Wolfe

Why not in the COO's waters (if present?)

WinEunuuchs2Unix

We have rules, even in warfare.

Kaz Wolfe

Or, don't we need test subjects for things?

WinEunuuchs2Unix

4:27 AM

hey Kaz...welcome to the discussion :D

TheXed

@WinEunuuchs2Unix the war is officially over...

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@TheXed which of the 99 wars are you talking about? The Phillipines of the 1800's? Apparenetly not with Detre's recent actions.

TheXed

The US has only officially been at war 11 times since 1776..

Seth

Yet another thing we need to change.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

The UN security council provides suitable cover... no fly zone in Iraq, etc.

Seth

4:30 AM

I mean, get rid of the presidents ability to create "mini wars"

Kaz Wolfe

just revoke all the President's powers

WinEunuuchs2Unix

The president is reading a speech writen by others... put the speech writers into the limelight and subject to interogation I say.

TheXed

@KazWolfe we can't revoke the presidents power, congress would go mad with power...

This isn't like England where people get along with each other for the most part..

Kaz Wolfe

@TheXed Congress has already gone mad with power.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

You've never seen an English "football" match then.

TheXed

4:33 AM

and discuss potential laws over crumpets and tea

WinEunuuchs2Unix

So yeah if the pro-clinton rioters don't stop in 24 hours send in the military and declare marhall law in those blue states. Second Trump flies to Gitmo, takes CNN, CNBC, Fox news with him asks POW's via interpreter "What country are you from?" and sends them to their home country prisons. Then he looks at US paid government lawyers "fighting for POW rights" and says "You're FIRED!!!". Camera fades to Cuban sunset.

Obama has had 8 years to close Gitmo and probably never been there. Trump can go there in one day and get all 100 POW's sent back to their COO government prisons. A REAL commander in chief gives COMMANDS. Morons.

Well time to watch a movie, Night All :)

TheXed

night

Nathan Osman

5:09 AM

OH HECK NO.

"Chelsea Clinton being groomed to run for Congress" http://nypost.com/2016/11/10/chelsea-clinton-being-groomed-to-run-for-congress/

Tweeted by RAVerBruggen on November 11, 2016 at 3:48 AM

Please, somebody be making this up.

The last thing this dying world needs is another Clinton entering politics.

Serg

Exactly, nope of the highest proportion

On the other hand, if Michelle Obama does run, i wouldn't mind

Thank god, people aren't being nutsy over Starbuck's holiday cup

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Kaz Wolfe

5:31 AM

@Serg The Christmas cup is back. This is annoying to me.

I don't like Christmas. It's a dumb cash-grab.

Serg

@KazWolfe Don't blame the idea, blame the market.

Christmas in and of itself is a lovely holiday

time to have bunch of nice food

drink champagne

gifts

winter break, no classes

Kaz Wolfe

@Serg for you maybe.

we get one week of winter break here.

one bloody week.

Serg

yeah, that;s not enough

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Serg

oh look, java tag. definitelly a spam

Anwar

5:50 AM

morning everyone :)

How do I use indicators in budgie desktop? I don't find a way to use them

Serg

@Anwar iirc you need to install some kind of support package to have indicators working. That's the same way on Mate and GNOME by the way

Anwar

Gnome has a messaging bar (correct term?) at bottom left corner which you can pull to use.

Budgie has nothing like that

Serg

@Anwar yes, but with that message bars you cannot see indicator label text. For instance, with my lks-indicator you cannot see which key (caps, scroll, or num lock ) is actually pressed, because it relies only on indicator label.

Only with AppIndicator support extension for GNOME shell it works properly

Anwar

hmm..

Serg

otherwise - it's ( excuse my french ) half-a$$ed feature

Anwar

6:04 AM

but I don't even see any indicators here in budgie.

for example the clipit indicator

Serg

you probably need to install some

Anwar

it's shown in gnome shell. I think budgie uses gnome shell features under the hood

and I also don't see all windows in alt-tab!

@Zacharee1 anything ^?

Serg

Budgie Remix’s developers say the new app indicator applet should be used on its own, in place of the regular system-tray applet, i.e. do not run both side-by-side.

omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/11/…

Well that . . . kind of is interesting

Anwar

hmm.... I can see the synapse icon on the top panel which was usually shown in message bar in gnome shell

I think that's the solution @Serg

It's even neater than gnome shell.

Kaz Wolfe

6:19 AM

well i managed to find a way to simulate the bad part of being drunk.

work on reflections for 7 hours straight.

Anwar

wow! Firefox preference is now auto fixed in budgie desktop. I can see the select/unselect!

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6:41 AM

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Zanna

7:12 AM

hmm. that feeling when you think you're the only one who understood the question but nobody else noticed...

Jacob Vlijm

7:52 AM

@NathanOsman also @WinEunuuchs2Unix I'd really, really appreciate if we could keep this site politics- free, other than an occasional wink.

Serg

8:13 AM

I don't think it's possible to keep anything politics-free. At least with this election. This is total C#-rap

edwinksl

8:25 AM

@Zanna ?

Zanna

8:51 AM

@edwinksl this (ah it is a dupe though) askubuntu.com/questions/847998/…

edwinksl

9:16 AM

voted

Zanna

that will close it then... thanks for the upvote if it was you :)

hmm I'm not sure I like this revision... now it looks like an answer and I'd rather have flagged it askubuntu.com/posts/848053/revisions

terdon

@Zanna ?

That looks like a fine edit, what's wrong with it?

Zanna

it is a very good edit of course, my thought was, the answer didn't deserve it, it was a "Ubuntu sucks" rant more than an answer

but I guess if the answer part is valid, then it's good & right

terdon

9:39 AM

Yeah, if we can polish crap into gold, that must be a good thing, right?

Sigh, just in time to circumvent the censors :P

edwinksl

@terdon sound political advice

Zanna

haha yes, as long as there is some gold in there, it's alright

Jacob Vlijm

@Serg Yeah, but I'd like to focus on things everyone can agree on. Statements (other than on-topic ones) that are put in a way that you are forced to either agree or disagree are not really fruitful in here I think. @terdon which censors?

terdon

@JacobVlijm Me. Basically

Jacob Vlijm

@terdon :)

terdon

9:49 AM

This room has a very, very low tolerance of profanity, so I changed the word shit to crap (note that this is mention, not use). I'm a mod now, so I have to strictly abide by the local rules even if I might not agree with them :)

Jacob Vlijm

@terdon Ah, I missed the authentic version :)

terdon

Fastest mod in the west.

Zacharee1

11:03 AM

@Anwar I've noticed that Alt Tab is somewhat strange

I don't really like it, but idk how to report it

@terdon I thought we were pretty lax with that

just no excessive use

edwinksl

AU chat is heavily censored as far as i can tell

Zacharee1

AU itself

but not chat

@edwinksl I don't see you in the CV queue

edwinksl

astute observation

user136984

@Fabby If you are on Xenial or Trusty you should have got an update for it recently.

user136984

11:19 AM

How on earth does one unsubscribe from Avaaz??? I have tried so many ways, even marking their messages as spam many times, but they seem to always still get into my inbox... I really don't want to see stuff from them. Anyone got any ideas?

user136984

I'm just being bombarded with petitions.

terdon

@Zacharee1 Oh, no. In my experience this is by far the room with the lowest profanity tolerance of all the ones I frequent on the network.

user136984

This is a nice room.

user136984

The calmest I've found and the most normal.

edwinksl

lol

user136984

11:21 AM

Probably because of the high amount of moderators normally in here and the kind of people who make progress on AU.

terdon

Also because it's a very small community of chat regulars who all know each other.

Zacharee1

IT????

:p

user136984

Yes, and that all makes for a nice little room. :)

terdon

I dunno. I think we're going downhill. We've started letting all the riffraff into the room. Look at who's here now. Some sort of weirdo with red eyes, a smoking dinosaur, some sort of human/dog hybrid. Sigh. In the old days, we had standards!

Zacharee1

some wierd blurry guitar...

terdon

11:35 AM

yeah, see?

Kaz Wolfe

woof?

terdon

If I had my way, I'd have all of you shot!

(that's a reference to "who let all of the riffraff into the room, it's from a song, don't let's get excited, yeah?)

Zacharee1

no

terdon

I guess not everyone grew up obsessed with Pink Floyd.

Need some older folks. @Fabby!

Zacharee1

is AU being slow for anyone else?

terdon

11:39 AM

Damn that's a good song. I haven't heard it in a while.

Sadly apt these days.

Zacharee1

apt install song

terdon

3 mins ago, by terdon

If I had my way, I'd have all of you shot!

Zacharee1

no

jokerdino

what does it mean if someone named paranoid panda calls us 'most normal'?

Zacharee1

it means he's British

jokerdino

11:53 AM

That's not good

terdon

5

And yes, I know @jokerdino's avatar isn't actually a smoking dinosaur, but that's what it looks like small, so:

jokerdino

haha, I love it everytime I see dino comics.

terdon

OK

And yes, I'm a Far Side addict, and I know it. Help is being sought.

Mark Yisri

12:09 PM

@KazWolfe you there still?

jokerdino

@terdon I liked this one the most.

terdon

:)

Zanna

Lol

@Zacharee1 how so?

Zacharee1

oh, most normal

oh dear, 'tis most upsetting

:p

Zanna

Hahahahaha

terdon

12:27 PM

@Zacharee1 there's an easy test for that. Just yell "Free tea" and see who comes running :P

Zacharee1

lol

terdon

You'll have to filter out all the golfers though. "Did someone say free tee"?

Zanna

@terdon I have a better one, form a queue at random, and see who lines up behind you

Zacharee1

pip pip tally ho

terdon

@Zanna Ha! Now that one will actually work :)

Of course, you just outed yourself since you implied it's possible to form a queue by yourself.

@Zacharee1 Nobody except Hugh Laurie in Black Adder actually says that though.

Zanna

12:30 PM

@terdon you'd think so, but some of us are so zealous we will join a queue of one

Zacharee1

@terdon I'm just reciting stereotypes

Zanna

My mum is quite notorious for queue joining

terdon

@Zanna I know, that's why you outed yourself. I've seen people "queuing" at a bust stop in York. There was nobody else there!

Zanna

@terdon but that's what you do at a bus stop confused face

^_^

Zacharee1

oh dear, what a row

terdon

12:32 PM

@Zacharee1 No, no, rows of people are called queues.

Zacharee1

@terdon row as in r-ow

terdon

whoosh

Zacharee1

@terdon whoosh

terdon

I know, that's what's known as a pune or a play on words.

Zacharee1

The 9th most populous city in India?

terdon

12:33 PM

Not a Pratchett fan, huh?

wiki.lspace.org/mediawiki/index.php/Pune

Zacharee1

Who's Hatchet?

terdon

> A pune or a play on words is often spoken by Discworld characters when they tell a not very funny joke based on word play.

@Zacharee1 Now you're trulling.

Zacharee1

now?

terdon

:)

fossfreedom

12:53 PM

@Zacharee1 yes there are plans for autohide - it has been approved - and I strongly suspect will be done during/shortly after the rewrite of the panel code in the upcoming budgie-desktop v11. github.com/budgie-desktop/budgie-desktop/issues/315

Zacharee1

cool!

Is that where I should make featreqs

fossfreedom

yep - do check open issues first though

Zacharee1

I looked a bit, wasn't sure if it was there

it's about the Alt Tab switcher

fossfreedom

what is the feature you are proposing?

Zacharee1

It's a little weird how Alt Tab behaves

fossfreedom

12:58 PM

yeah - known issue

Zacharee1

ok

fossfreedom

personally I use skippy-xd to switch between windows - hooked it up with CTRL+TAB and you get a nice exposé type display to switch windows

Ask Ubuntu Meta

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Q: Troubleshoting, is it Offtopic?

I know trouble-shooting can me made at Ubuntu forums and is a good interface to do so. Is trouble-shooting off-topic in a Q&A site ?

discussion

Zacharee1

wow

pulseaudio EQ really distorts bass

@fossfreedom I'll try it out

fossfreedom

@Zacharee1 if you are using ppa:budgie-remix/ppa you can install the budgie-welcome app - in the recommendations page you get an autoinstall and autoconfigure option

Zacharee1

1:06 PM

for skippy?

fossfreedom

indeed - it autoinstalls skippy-xd

Zacharee1

installing now then

says install failed

well a notification says that

the app says it's installed

fossfreedom

?? that's weird - and if you do sudo apt install skippy-xd

Zacharee1

it's installed

so I guess it's a reporting bug

fossfreedom

press CTRL+TAB

Zacharee1

1:10 PM

I ran skippy-xd and it worked so it did install

fossfreedom

if CTRL+TAB doesnt work - create a shortcut key to the command skippy-xd-toggle

Zacharee1

it works

I just wish I could get it to use alt tab

probably no, but does Budgie use compiz?

fossfreedom

hmm - never tried to override alt-tab - can you override alt-tab via settings - keyboard - shortcuts?

no budgie uses mutter

Zacharee1

ok

I set skippy to alt tab but it just uses the default behavior

can't find alt tab in any of the menus

terdon

@fossfreedom can't you just change the shortcut in dconf? Budgie still uses dconf, right?

fossfreedom

1:15 PM

yes - it uses the same GNOME dconf settings - so if you can override ALT+TAB in gnome-shell .... in theory you can do the same trick in budgie .... famous last words!

Zacharee1

anyone know the package name of the GNOME or Unity app switcher dialog?

@fossfreedom how would I go about breaking my system in that manner?

Mark Yisri

@Zacharee1 what do you mean by app switcher?

terdon

Presumably, run dconf-editor and search for switch or similar. On Cinnamon, it's alttab-switcher so it might be ctrltab-switcher but I don't really know. Presumably it will be somewhere under org/budgie/desktop/keybindings

A lot of presumably there, I know.

Zacharee1

oops

Mark Yisri

also, I can't find the C programming room, but someone showed it to me earlier

Zacharee1

1:21 PM

I'm under org/gnome :p

although I don't see budgie

that worked

@fossfreedom is there a location for the current app switcher in Budgie?

or is it built in?

fossfreedom

built in - its not a separate app

Zacharee1

darn

does Budgie support GNOME extensions?

looks like it doesn't

fossfreedom

no - and a good job it doesnt --- gnome extensions seem to break with each and every gnome version. you can write budgie-applets using a stable API - so applets dont break with each revision of budgie-desktop.

Zacharee1

ok

I must not be searching the right way, because I can't find any alternative app switchers

and I know they exist

fossfreedom

Don't remember seeing a question here like "Are there any independent X11 based app switchers available?" i.e. app switchers that are not fixed to their window-manager.

terdon

1:44 PM

@fossfreedom do you know off the top of your head if budgie supports "focus under mouse"? That's probably the single most important desktop feature for me.

Zacharee1

asked a question

@terdon what's that

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Q: Standalone Task Switchers

I'm using Budgie Desktop currently, and I really enjoy it. It's got good battery life, customizability, stability and speed, but there's just one thing that bothers me; it doesn't have a real app switcher. Pressing Alt + Tab will switch apps, but no dialog appears, and it doesn't allow me to sele...

application-switcher

terdon

It's where any window your mouse is over automatically has the focus. So you i) don't need to click in order to interact with a window and ii) can type in one window while having another on top of it. It's a very, very old X feature. Probably from UNIX. It's been that way ever since I first switched to Linux anyway and is the one thing I miss the most whenever I'm forced to change OS.

Focus (computing)

In computing, the focus indicates the component of the graphical user interface which is selected to receive input. Text entered at the keyboard or pasted from a clipboard is sent to the component which has the focus. Moving the focus away from a specific user interface element is known as a blur event in relation to this element. Typically, the focus is withdrawn from an element by giving another element the focus. This means that focus and blur events typically both occur virtually simultaneously, but in relation to different user interface elements, one that gets the focus and one that gets...

Zacharee1

I don't see it here

fossfreedom

@terdon if you can do that under gnome-shell then yes will work under budgie - off the top of my head I don't remember such a feature though in gnome-shell.

terdon

Yeah gnome has it. Unless the gnome devs in their infinite version decided to remove even that basic functionality, just in case anyone found Gnome usable by mistake.

Gnome2 most certainly had it.

And cinnamon used gnome shell still, I think, and that has it.

Zacharee1

1:48 PM

I don't think G3 has it

and Budgie doesn't by default, unless I'm doing it wrong

fossfreedom

... quick google - havent tried - but could work - @Zacharee1 can you try this please ? worldofgnome.org/…

terdon

Bloody hell. They did remove it! You can get it back through gconf though. FFS!

techrepublic.com/blog/diy-it-guy/…

Zacharee1

eyyyy

it works

typing this while dconf editor is on top

@terdon it works great. Use focus mode: click if you switch over

terdon

Yep. I love it, it's essential for my workflow.

Zacharee1

this is so weird

Anwar

1:52 PM

@Zacharee1 did you find the solution?

Zacharee1

so now that I have audio fixed and better battery life, I think I'll be using Ubuntu more

@Anwar no

we're playing with focusing

Anwar

ok. favoriting it.

@terdon I can scroll on a second window while the 1st one is on top. I think it was same for all Ubuntus I used. But I could never type without changing focus mode.

terdon

And you can't click/select etc without changing ficus. It's awful.

Anwar

hmm. that's true.

I thought it was this way long since!

maybe I never used classic linux..

terdon

2:08 PM

This way?

Personally, I use "focus under mouse" and disable "click to raise". That way, I can click without raising the window and raise with one of i) click on the title bar; ii) Alt+click iii) Alt+up arrow

Anwar

Sorry I wasn't very clear. I mean I can't remember being able to type on a second window while 1st one is on top

terdon

Ah, yes, that's only with focus follows mouse

Zacharee1

internets wai u no werk

Anwar

Though I think it'd be great to be able to type

Zacharee1

o_O askubuntu.com/questions/848214/computer-with-512-mb-hard-drive

gonna install 17.04 in a VM

wish me luck

does 17.04 just look like a really weird number to anyone else?

Anwar

2:15 PM

^yes. to me too

terdon

@Anwar You can! Just enable "focus under mouse".

Anwar

ah. Thanks. working.

I remember changing the mode to this before. Didn't like because it makes me move mouse cursor to the window :)

Zacharee1

poor fossy

(askubuntu.com/questions/141940/…)

@fossfreedom so I know Budgie's advertised as being only for the desktop, but I think as it stands, it's a pretty good DE for tablets

Anwar

It became hard to choose a good app for your need. There are tons of them and it's very confusing... which makes be feel disturbed

Zacharee1

??

fossfreedom

2:26 PM

@Zacharee1 I like its focus to be desktop only - if it works on a tablet - well that's nice.

Zacharee1

@fossfreedom I mean, there are a few things that'd be awkward, but it seems like the style, even though it only has desktops in mind, works well for tablets

Verizon S7s are getting access to a beta program

Verizon!

8.6GB to install Ubuntu???!

Zacharee1

2:53 PM

seems I've broken my tablet charger

Nathan Osman

3:04 PM

threatpost.com/…

Thomas Ward

bleh nevermind

too tired to care

hello to everyone else

Oli

Huh, the Linux version of Deus Ex Mankind Dividend has been pirated before the Windows version. Just when you think the world couldn't go any further around the twist.

Thomas Ward

lol

cl-netbox

Good afternoon ! :) Hello everybody ! :)

@ThomasWard : Hi Thomas ! :) Thank you ! :) Have you ever seen someone who got it managed to purge the booted kernel from within the running system ? :D

@ThomasWard : But you are right ... there are always some people out there who try out everything "unbelievable" possible to ruin their systems ... :D :D :D

David Foerster

3:28 PM

@ThomasWard: I see your chat notification but I can't find the message behind it? Did you delete it or something?

cl-netbox

@DavidFoerster : Hi David ! :) Good afternoon ! :)

David Foerster

@cl-netbox: Hiho!

Rinzwind

\o

cl-netbox

Rinzy jumps in ... Hi Rinzy ! :)

Rinzwind

almost weekend

cl-netbox

3:38 PM

@Rinzwind almost ? ... right now ! :D :D :D

Rinzwind

nah gotta do a social thing 1st (drink in the bar we own below the company ;-))

I do not count that as weekend

bbl

Thomas Ward

@cl-netbox Yes, I have, it removes the 'code' and the 'package' but then doesn't nuke the running version.

David Foerster

@Rinzwind: The stereotypical lazy German construction worker says on Monday: "Only five days left till weekend!" ("Noch fünf Tage, denn is' wieder Wochenende.")

Thomas Ward

@cl-netbox I upgrade the kernels this way - sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade; sudo apt-get autoremove will have a tendency to nuke kernels that linux-kernel-generic or w/e it is that I use doesn't point at

it "removes" the running kernel's software, but leaves it in temporary memory until the reboot

once it reboots, the new kernel is loaded, and the old is 'gone'

at least, AIUI

@DavidFoerster deleted.

38 mins ago, by Thomas Ward

bleh nevermind

^ what I said after i deleted it

(the next one was 'too tired to care')

cl-netbox

@ThomasWard Interesting ... I always install a new kernel ... reboot ... purge old kernel (headers + images) ... reboot ... the safest way to avoid trouble ... IMHO ... right ? :)

Thomas Ward

3:47 PM

@cl-netbox too many reboots for me. And, I have a complete backup of my computer so meh.

I tend to reboot once a day or two anyways so... :P

@cl-netbox it's more complex when you have to compile extra modules in

but the only ones I worry about then are VMware Workstation modules

cl-netbox

@ThomasWard so have I ... before making important changes to the system, clonezilla has to do its work ! :)

David Foerster

@ThomasWard: I'm surprised that Apt/dpkg lets you install the package of a running kernel. Whenever I try that (accidentally or out of curiosity) the pre-removal script gives me big warning message that makes me jump through a few hoops to confirm that I want to that.

cl-netbox

@DavidFoerster @ThomasWard : In fedora this is different : when you want to purge the running kernel, you receive a notification that it's impossible to do it ! :)

David Foerster

But otherwise yes, you can remove kernel files. However you may run into issues if you later try to plug in a device that needs to load a kernel module or firmware file that was included with that kernel package.

@ThomasWard: I meant "remove" not "install" of course.

Thomas Ward

heh

@cl-netbox I usually run another script too, I keep two kernel versions usually - current and latest.

my servers I don't care, they get rebooted regularly anyways

(autoupdates ftw)

cl-netbox

3:53 PM

@ThomasWard That is exactly the same what I am doing ... keeping the current and the one before ! :)

Thomas Ward

i just keep current that's running and the one being installed

then if the one that's new works without issue

that's current, and i remove the old

but meh

@cl-netbox I had to do this manually with reverting when a security update broke overlayfs so I couldn't use sbuild to run package builds

it was not fun

got resolved fast because a few people whined, and enough people higher up complained :P

cl-netbox

@ThomasWard yes ... understandable ... ! :)

@ThomasWard hahaha ... :D :D :D

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