Root Access

I'm just kidding. It didn't change my life at all and, despite a really bizarre-and-pitoresque experience of suddenly feeling like I was in Japan, 99% of it was stuff I didn't have interest ofr

> suddenly feeling like I was in Japan

I mean it, the speakers played only japanese music, and all labels were in japanese

Journeyman Geek

@ThatBrazilianGuy the secret of daiso is serendipity and finding wierd crap like glass misters...

or rubber hammers.

arda

@ThatBrazilianGuy that sounds like a dream for a weeb like me

That Brazilian Guy

But being able to buy a foldable ear warmer at 9c degrees. That was ~~cool~~ warm.

All in all, it felt like a japanized first-world version of the local flea market

Slightly more peculiar, stuff with a little more quality than the generic chinese stuff, not exactly cheap at 8 BRL, but not expensive either

@arda What if I told you the entire neighborhood was like that?

With even the banks and mcdonalds in japanese, and cosplaying girls in the streets

Journeyman Geek

@ThatBrazilianGuy ah, japantown?

That Brazilian Guy

12:31 AM

@JourneymanGeek Yeah

arda

Journeyman Geek

Its 2 dollars here, which is pretty much "eh, pocketchange"

That Brazilian Guy

THERE's CANDY MADE OF BEANS AND IT IS DELICIOUS

Moti

Journeyman Geek

;p

That Brazilian Guy

Ah: I watched the "Free to Play" documentary the other day and it left me confused.

So far I had never seen the face of someone from Singapore

Journeyman Geek

12:34 AM

<--- is singaporean ;p

That Brazilian Guy

So in my mind the image of @JourneymanGeek was that of a small dog

Journeyman Geek

Probably born here too!

Unlike those immigrant dogs! ;p

That Brazilian Guy

Now I have the mental image of someone from Singapore. No, a specific person from Singapore

That guy that only smoked, whined about his ex and was scolded by family because of games and computers. But I digress.

Journeyman Geek

So not me? ;p

That Brazilian Guy

So now my involuntary mental image of @JourneymanGeek is of a small dog that also looks like that Dota player >_<

Journeyman Geek

12:37 AM

the human's balding and indian ;p

That Brazilian Guy

@JourneymanGeek Indian? So not all Singaporeans are of asiatic ascent?

Journeyman Geek

@ThatBrazilianGuy india is in asia

That Brazilian Guy

Sorry for my ignorance. We don't learn much about it in here.

Journeyman Geek

there's 4 'main' races here, chinese are the majority, sure, but we also have indians, malays (who're indiginous to the region) and eurasians

That Brazilian Guy

@JourneymanGeek OH BOY OF COURSE YOU'RE RIGHT. +_+

How do I say chinese/japanese/korean/and similar ethnicities in a non-racist way?

Journeyman Geek

12:41 AM

You don't ;p

there's still people sore over WW2

So, basically a very long time ago, the japanese decided to take over asia.

they for some reason were complete asses to the chinese - there were a handful of massacres here, and in china, and they did pretty gruesome Chemical and Biological experiments in china, and the koreans...

That Brazilian Guy

Yes, I have a vague notion over this.

In many movies they are portrayed as believing in a "divine right" or something about being soberane and destined to rule, etc

arda

Unit 731?

Journeyman Geek

I have people my generation complaining about ww2 so..

yup

also stuff like the nanjing and sook ching massacres

That Brazilian Guy

Also I didn't know the official language of Singapore was English (it is English, right?)

phew ok, it is.

arda

Wait, really?

TIL

bwDraco

12:48 AM

@ThatBrazilianGuy: Please do watch your language.

Journeyman Geek

Its one of the 4 national languages, tho its the bridge language

@bwDraco er, that was meant humourously

bwDraco

(consider unsuspending him)

(sorry, @ThatBrazilianGuy)

Journeyman Geek

@bwDraco I think that was kind of a ... not very nice thing to do

That Brazilian Guy

Yaaaay, my first ban \o/

Journeyman Geek

"hey, I think that was offensive" and why is good here

bwDraco

12:50 AM

My apologies. I overreacted here.

Journeyman Geek

I rejected that flag

@bwDraco you do far too much

bwDraco

The community (elsewhere on the network) must have agreed :\

That Brazilian Guy

Well. If it was indeed perceived as offensive, I'm sorry.

Journeyman Geek

Some people just click ok on any flag

bwDraco

This, my folks, is why I'm not ready to be a room owner.

Journeyman Geek

12:51 AM

shrug we're channel regulars here. We can sort these issues out like adults.

No, you're not.

Ben N

It is a little weird that 10K's around the network are expected to swoop in and handle flags out of context

bwDraco

Dec 5 '15 at 2:56, by bwDraco

Be advised that at this time, if I were granted room owner privileges, it is likely I will simply revoke them from myself.

That Brazilian Guy

I meant that as a silly houmour against clippy and its perceived innapropriateness and general nuisance against its suggestions.

bwDraco

Things are getting better but again, not ready.

Ben N

There was an MSE town hall about chat moderation a while back, but I don't think any changes came from it :/

Journeyman Geek

12:52 AM

@ThatBrazilianGuy I think it was actually funny

and the flag was disruptive to the conversation going on.

That Brazilian Guy

Because clippy offered help when I said

> How do I say chinese/japanese/korean/and similar ethnicities in a non-racist way?

bwDraco

Do I need to be suspended?

That Brazilian Guy

So i told clippy to die and....

bwDraco

lol

That Brazilian Guy

@bwDraco No, you need to chill the f@$@# up man

2

Journeyman Geek

12:53 AM

@bwDraco I strongly suggest you just stop trying to mod for a bit.

or at least count to... I donno 20...

bwDraco

Will continue, but making changes.

That Brazilian Guy

Play some games, get a girlfriend, find some sports you like, drink beer (moderately , ofc!)

bwDraco

No, no. I'm just fine here.

Just a brief slip, no big deal.

I'll just check more tightly before hitting the flag button.

I'm confident enough to continue normally.

@JourneymanGeek I'm pretty confident that there's no need for me to stop moderating. I'll just be more cautious. The flag button is not a toy :)

Journeyman Geek

@bwDraco See, you just got a trusted user suspended, disrupted chat, and got me actually annoyed at you.

bwDraco

Again, I'm sorry. I'm pretty sure this will never happen again.

Continue where we left off...

Journeyman Geek

12:58 AM

We've been hugely patient but this pattern of behaviour occationally reaches the point

bwDraco

11 mins ago, by That Brazilian Guy

Also I didn't know the official language of Singapore was English (it is English, right?)

Journeyman Geek

You keep saying that. iIt keeps happening

Ben N

While we're on the subject of the chat technology, can RO's rename rooms?

I ask for AI.SE's room, which isn't creatively named yet

arda

@BenN yes

bwDraco

@BenN Yes

arda

12:58 AM

@BenN wait

consider making a meta post about it

That Brazilian Guy

@JourneymanGeek I'm not annoyed at @bwDraco, so please don't be

Journeyman Geek

@ThatBrazilianGuy its not just this

That Brazilian Guy

IMHO he's a good contributor of the site

bwDraco

@ThatBrazilianGuy For more relevant background, please see this open letter. I've had a long history of disrupting chat. Despite some improvements, the issues are far from being totally resolved.

That Brazilian Guy

Well, it's 10 PM and I've been promising myself I'll sleep helthier. For months...

So it means good night!

bwDraco

1:00 AM

Good night.

arda

@bwDraco you might want to, idk, write some script to hide the flag

Journeyman Geek

I'm going for a quick walk and breakfast.

bwDraco

@arda I have no intention of doing that. I'm 100% confident this won't happen again.

Ben N

@bwDraco If you're still doing the Benjamin Franklin-style journal of issues, I think you might want to follow his style exactly - he only made Boolean marks in each category, rather than cataloging his failures - I suspect that might be a critical aspect

bwDraco

@BenN I'm not presently doing this (it was experimental and ended up a failure).

Instead, I'm starting to learn how to think before I act.

Ben N

1:04 AM

Perfect! :)

Journeyman Geek

@bwDraco I'd like to suggest not loudly telling folk you're changing

1. It raises expectations that are not always met

2. I feel a significant part of your issues is to do with attention seeking.

I mean, I can ignore you, sure, but when other users are affected, its not cool

bwDraco

I had hit the flag button in jest without thinking about the consequences. That's what went wrong.

Journeyman Geek

and that to me makes me doubt your fitness to use that button.

arda

@JourneymanGeek Always underpromise, always overdeliver :)

bwDraco

The last few days have been extraordinarily stressful due to a household emergency but that's not an excuse.

arda

1:07 AM

this applies to pretty much everything. deadlines, features etc etc

bwDraco

Again, though, even with this incident, I have absolutely no reason to believe that this will happen again.

The fix is already in place and has been deployed.

Alright. Enough drama. On to another topic...

bwDraco

How do I stay motivated to learn programming? I just can't seem to sit down and code...

(go away, Clippy!)

arda

@bwDraco I can understand. I had similar feelings on the last week on school this june. I had the stress of both exams and moderator nomination, I was acting offensively against people. Taking some time off (and removing my nomination) until my stress levels stabilized helped :)

Journeyman Geek

you've got to start by wanting to code

@arda usually I take a short walk if I need to do something that needs me to wield power when I'm annoyed at people

arda

@JourneymanGeek my sleep cycles are... terrible

Not going for a walk in 3am :/

Journeyman Geek

1:11 AM

@arda I'm trying to fix mine

arda

@bwDraco I, for one, hardly find motivation to sit down and code unless someone is pushing me or I have a fun project on hand.

Journeyman Geek

@arda as a mod, I quite literally mean going off the keyboard

context is awesome

bwDraco

@JourneymanGeek I tend to be overconfident in my ability to control myself, that's the real issue.

arda

@JourneymanGeek I only go off kbd to cook, eat, sleep and to go to school

and to stock doritos and mtn dew

Journeyman Geek

@arda you don't have to babysit users tho

occationally ones who clearly are aiming to get on your nerves ;p

(like one pretty persistant troll.)

arda

1:14 AM

@arda So I try to find someone to make me message me constantly to code, or I find a good project

bwDraco

I always think "I'm sure I can control myself all the time" and this is the result.

Journeyman Geek

@bwDraco so be aware you are weak, and fickle, and act accordingly

bwDraco

I make wrong decisions on the erroneous assumption that I had the ability to make the right decision.

arda

@JourneymanGeek I should try to fix it

Journeyman Geek

lol

I'm trying to get myself back to 6.30 wakeups

bwDraco

1:15 AM

I used to be like that.

arda

Also I don't wake up on 2pm

who wakes on 2pm

Journeyman Geek

and 11 11.30 sleeps but yesterday I dozed off at 10

Ben N

@bwDraco Find a thing you really want to make and work on making it!

arda

I wake up on 4-5pm

bwDraco

I've been trying to get to bed by 12 and wake up by 7, but that's not good enough.

arda

1:16 AM

Those said, I should work on my game

later folks

Ben N

Bye!

arda

(I'm still here, I'm ALWAYS here)

bwDraco

So, going forward, I'm going to be implementing changes to ensure safer behavior by assuming that misbehavior is an open possibility at all times no matter my state of mind.

Journeyman Geek

@arda only if you magically become an RO like I did ;p

arda

@JourneymanGeek if only haha

Journeyman Geek

1:19 AM

@arda actually, that's exactly what happened to me ;p

bwDraco

I really admire you, @JourneymanGeek. I really do.

Thank you for helping.

Some changes have already been in the works, and I hope to deliver them over the next few days and weeks. I want to make improvements that me and the community can be proud of.

Journeyman Geek

Do, don't say

bwDraco

Saying isn't an impediment to doing.

Journeyman Geek

hm. I wonder if a reverse standing table exists

one that has a ~~floor~~ dog desk height and raises to normal desk height

bwDraco

lol

Journeyman Geek

1:23 AM

(roomie has a bad and apparently sitting on a lap helps, but I can't use my desktop then

arda

@bwDraco my mistake usually is thinking so too. Dropping that idea (mine was more along the lines of "I'm perfect and everything I do is perfect" - dropping wasn't easy, but getting tons of people point out my flaws in an election, was helpful and traumatic)... was kind of a bad idea because I don't feel confident about nearly anything anymore, however that allows me to think about stuff more, well, rationally. Try not to force yourself to do stuff. Try to think about what you do

bwDraco

I refuse to step out of the room because I think I can handle this and I fail miserably as a result.

Journeyman Geek

@arda I actually kinda felt the reverse. Its a mix or imposter syndrome and realising I'm only 'human' and the 'virtues' that lead people to vote for me are things that I had anyway

Other than the mighty modhammer of spam-smiting. polishes

bwDraco

My personality puts me at a huge disadvantage.

I really need to be humble, not haughty. This overconfidence is making me make decisions that have no basis in reality.

Journeyman Geek

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memento_mori ;p

> Memento mori ("remember that you have to die")[2] is a Latin expression, originating from a practice common in Ancient Rome; as a general came back victorious from a battle, and during his parade ("Triumph") received compliments and honors from the crowd of citizens, he ran the risk of falling victim to haughtiness and delusions of grandeur; to avoid it, a slave stationed behind him would say "Respice post te. Hominem te memento"

!!s/hominem/caninem/

Ben N

1:31 AM

@bwDraco In my experience, it sometimes is - I can pressure myself into finishing a project to awesomeness by not telling anyone about it until it's done

bwDraco

@BenN That response was defiant and wrong. It was just my overconfidence showing.

I shouldn't have said that.

@JourneymanGeek You're 100% correct and you just changed my life (no kidding!). I'll try to drill that into my mind.

I've long refused to accept my weaknesses (despite knowing they exist as a matter of fact). This ends here.

Journeyman Geek

Do, don't say.

5

Ben N

Colton Dixon - Our Time Is Now (Lyric Video)

►

bwDraco

BRB, going to meditate on that. I'm taking this very seriously.

It's time to change.

bwDraco

1:51 AM

So, after some thought, I've decided I'm going to start by making an adjustment to my decision-making process. I will stop assuming that everything I try to do will succeed as intended and start assuming that I may be wrong.

I really can't help but think that this incident has led me to break new ground and make real progress after all this time.

In any case, it's getting late here. Good night.

Thank you so much for your help.

Ben N

Good night!

Journeyman Geek

krebsonsecurity.com/2016/08/…

Mashed potato on pizza?

random

Usually it's baked potato on pizza

Journeyman Geek

still strange, but might possibly make sense.

"potato wedges" Chips on pizza .... you monsters...

bwDraco

2:10 AM

I'll still be proud—but not haughty or overconfident. Pride must be rooted in realistic abilities and actual achievements, not speculative assumptions regarding whether I can succeed on something.

Good night.

Bob

2:24 AM

foxpokingheadoutofhole.gif

Journeyman Geek

woof

Bob

> A faulty power supply in a server caused the rack T02D14 to have an electric disjunction.

Sounds painful.

Journeyman Geek

2:56 AM

they probably have a little blue pill for that these days...

bwDraco

If you remember the "CEO" wake-up time experiments, I'm going to state that the experiment was made on an unrealistic assumption that I could fall asleep as early as 9 pm and wake up as early as 5 am the next day without the need to gradually adjust.

That, too, was done on overconfidence. This will no longer be allowed.

Journeyman Geek

Go to bed.

Rahul2001

3:37 AM

Good morning!

@Burgi I'm awake now... :P

Journeyman Geek

Good day! You have hurtled one day closer towards your impending doom!

Rahul2001

Such pleasant thoughts...

Journeyman Geek

You will likely die somewhere on this planet.

Rahul2001

I'm not sure if that's something to be sad about...

Hm... chat.stackexchange.com/users/175223/burgi does anyone else see a pink gravatar instead of a green one here?

Journeyman Geek

I see green

I was wondering about that

Rahul2001

4:06 AM

Yeah, chat has been messing gravatar designs for me for the past week...

medium.com/@washingtonpost/…

All your memes are belong to us...

Guitar Shoe Dave

before dancing baby it was crazycow

they're missing one

crazycow was quite popular in 1995/96 , even i remember that one

it may be labeled as madcow though

i just remember that cow laugh was freeking crazy

bed time

l8r <3

bwDraco

4:29 AM

Pride isn't a sin, but only as long as it's grounded in reality. There's a distinction between self-esteem and hubris. #Pride #SelfEsteem

Tweeted by bwDraco on August 25, 2016 at 4:29 AM

arda

@bwDraco do, don't say

bwDraco

lol, mimicking JMG

Journeyman Geek

4:43 AM

cause its true

to be blunt, its a symptom of the attention seeking behavior that's the root of your problems with other folk - you're constantly telling people you are changing, when the need to get attention is what's causing most of these issues, and telling people you will change is a way to get attention

bwDraco

I've actually thought about this and found a relationship between hubris and attention-seeking, and addressing the hubris issue will probably reduce the attention-seeking behavior.

Journeyman Geek

So the first step is to... well, stop telling people you're going to change shit and just change.

No. Change the attention seeking behavior. You're doing it right now. LOOK.

I shouldn't even be feeding it, but I have NO idea how to deal with it otherwise.

bwDraco

I'm actively looking into avenues by which I can practice the changes in a visible manner without overtly seeking attention.

I'll try not to mention it too much. After all, it comes down to the ability to apply skills in practice, not mere claims.

I admit the frequency and scope of such claims is disruptive and unacceptable

arda

You are seeking attention saying that you aren't a not-so-good person as some people think and I understand that and I know that you don't have any ill intents, but maybe you should take some time before you are sure that you have changed. You keeping posting that you have changed or are changing will only take how much they believe you lower.

Sathya

morning

bwDraco

4:55 AM

I care about having an audit trail to refer to once the changes make it to PROD, though, and that's part of the reason I make these kinds of posts.

The idea is that I can look back and say that I've made real progress some point in the future.

arda

@bwDraco I was at your point too. Do, don't say.

My way to track progress was count of me getting warned by mods or the count of people who have me ignored.

Both are on zero atm. From around 3/mo and 4.

Journeyman Geek

5:22 AM

@bwDraco you're still doing it tho

@arda I've never gotten warned by mods (much) ;p

Other than maybe "hey, you can close vote now, stop flagging"

Sathya

dont remember me sending that ;p

Journeyman Geek

5:38 AM

;p

bwDraco

Hopefully, this will be the last of my problems here on Stack Exchange and I have every intention of moving forward.

I'm very sorry for the trouble I've caused.

It's getting really late here. Good night.

Journeyman Geek

Yes. like I said, 2 hours ago. Go To Bed.

Rahul2001

6:51 AM

Huh, chemistry test was easy...

m.reddit.com/r/investing/comments/4zcjx0/…

Dumb dumb dumb

Oliver Salzburg

Two more "please don't create shortcuts on my desktop" filed!

Rahul2001

"My incredible ability to type words into Google and find a solution in the first link further solidifies my place as the tech genius of my family."

Lol

Mokubai

@Rahul2001 there's an xkcd about that

Rahul2001

Lol

This is favourite of mine:

All long help threads should have a sticky globally-editable post at the top saying 'DEAR PEOPLE FROM THE FUTURE: Here's what we've figured out so far ...'

Because that's what I face while installing moodle every time...

Oliver Salzburg

7:09 AM

@Rahul2001 Learning platform... maybe the installation process is the first lecture!

Rahul2001

@OliverSalzburg I haven't been able to install it in two weeks... Can I drop the subject?

Oliver Salzburg

@Rahul2001 "Drop" as in "bring it up" or "never mention it again"?

Rahul2001

@OliverSalzburg As in leave that subject if given a choice

"I can drop chemistry in grade 11"

Which, unfortunately, I cannot...

Mokubai

Chemistry is awesome! Why would you want to drop it?

Now Art, that's a pointless subject, drop that instead.

Bob

7:31 AM

@OliverSalzburg I haven't actually seen many programs do that recently.

Then again I never look at my desktop either.

Cause that requires minimising about 50 windows.

Burgi

morning

Journeyman Geek

hi

@Rahul2001 are you planning on running it in a VM?

Oliver Salzburg

@Bob Two most recent offenders are Franz and Docker

And, of course, every time I update an Adobe application...

Rahul2001

@Mokubai because the teachers here in India are no good and although I love chem, studying it in this system is going to be tortuous

Burgi

@Rahul2001 curses!

you will have wait until 1900 UK time now

Rahul2001

7:50 AM

@Burgi lol, no problem

Burgi

its not very good

DavidPostill

@OliverSalzburg iTunes does it as well.

Journeyman Geek

ftw.usatoday.com/2016/08/…

@DavidPostill >_> Its apple. Arn't they the ones tried to install anything they ever wrote on windows if you had anything ever installed?

DavidPostill

8:06 AM

@Rahul2001 It's because of the image size

17

Q: Why is my profile image different?

When I first signed up on a Stack Exchange site and got a profile image, it was this one (see my current user card): Later, I got Area 51 and SEDE profiles, and my user image there was a different identicon. Because reasons I already know. I would have a picture of it, but that's the problem....

44

Q: Why did my avatar change?

My network-wide gravatar identicon used to be a pleasant blue, now it's bright green. I didn't change my email. Did Stack Exchange change its email hashing algorithm or something?

discussion support profile-picture gravatar

"It seems a gravatar problem, not related to Stack Overflow."

Rahul2001

So if anyone wants to have a consistent gravatar, they should manually download it and set it as their profile pic...

Journeyman Geek

Or have a non random ava

Rahul2001

m.reddit.com/r/nottheonion/comments/4zen0g/…

Lol

Bob

@DavidPostill Gravatar is owned by Wordpress. Wordpress uses PHP. I blame PHP.

Rahul2001

> India cows get glow-in-the-dark horns to stop crashes

Burgi

8:27 AM

42

Q: Moving Servers Within The Same Building

Here's my scenario: I'm a developer that inherited (unbeknownst to me) three servers located within my office. I also inherited the job of being the admin of the servers with a distinct lack of server administration knowledge and google / ServerFault as a reference point. Luckily, I've never actu...