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12:37 AM
Has anyone ever used Ninject before?
I am working on a Ninject-backed (is that the right word?) application, and we are having serious problems with memory leaks everywhere.
 
1:35 AM
@RobertHarvey pew pew
 
1:52 AM
@Den: The idea that Programmers is the site that you go to with your subjective questions might have been true, say... four years ago? It's certainly not true today. You might want to check out the dialog taking place on our Meta site; it's fairly likely now that the site name is going to change, though the scope isn't... much. — Robert Harvey 4 mins ago
 
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2:45 AM
@RobertHarvey BOOM!
 
2:46 PM
Because having zero width spaces inside an indentifier is an abomination, that's why. — Robert Harvey 1 min ago
 
 
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4:17 PM
I voted to close as Too Broad. Oh, the irony. — Robert Harvey 27 secs ago
 
4:39 PM
Hillary's good at not making mistakes. Trump seems to have learned from his mistakes. I think it will be very close.
@Yannis Not that I'm aware of. Has anyone suggested that "Software Engineering" is a poor name?
 
5:07 PM
@AaronHall per my recollection a while ago there was quite a lot of opposition to that name, in meta comments and at Whiteboard. As time passed by it just turned out that other names are even worse
 
Is "Programmers" one of those other names?
 
@AaronHall yes, at least for majority of those who actively participated in discussions
 
Then the way is clear and our path is set.
 
5:45 PM
Let's go ahead and get one more close vote on this question. The OP is turning it into a discussion, and the bike shed has already been painted several different colors:
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Q: When do we actually use object-oriented programming?

Dex' terI am writing a program in Python, which basically manipulates strings, and I was wondering whether I should do it using OOP principles or not. The client did tell me he doesn't care about the code, he just want the thing done. I know that object-oriented code is not by definition cleaner, and co...

@AaronHall You mean like the one where she wiped the server with a cloth?
Or the one where she didn't send classified information? Or the one where she only used one mobile device?
 
6:34 PM
Mistakes in the context of being on the campaign trail. I'd consider stuff before the campaign trail to be either baggage or skeletons in the closet. And I didn't see or hear anything about wiping a server - what happened now?
ok, email server - my understanding is she's fairly unsophisticated, and I'd expect her to delete a folder and expect whatever's in it to be gone forever. She probably did something like that.
Or told someone else who was just as sophisticated to do something like that.
 
She disseminated classified information in the clear, lots of it. The FBI didn't indict her, supposedly because there was no "intent to harm." I've worked for the government, and I presumably took the same training she did in the proper handling of classified materials (hers was probably better). If I'd done what she did, I'd be in jail right now.
And then she lied about it. Several times. While on the campaign trail. It's hard to imagine anyone evaluating someone like that as trustworthy enough to be a mail deliverer or even a short order cook, let alone holding the top leadership post in the country.
 
Do VIP's brought in to head a government office get any training whatsoever? I'd expect them to expect their people (however competent) to know how to do stuff, and to make what the VIP wants to do happen.
I'm my boss's abstraction layer.
Fortunately for us, I seem to know how I'm supposed to get what he wants done.
 
6:51 PM
Perhaps her handlers should be in control of her electronic devices then. Obama was the first president to carry around a cell phone, and there are some compelling reasons why he shouldn't.
 
I can see her rationalizing hand-waving, dropping details, or telling "little white lies." That doesn't mean I support her (I don't), but I think I can empathize with her as a candidate.
 
You can... "empathize with her as a candidate?"
 
In an abstract sort of way. (context: I have a degree in political science)
 
Political Science is an oxymoron. It's the science of saying and doing the right things to get elected. I wish more people understood that.
It has no relation whatever to job responsibilities. It's what we in software development call an "orthogonal concern."
 
They say Machiavelli was the first political scientist because he was the first to talk about power from a realist (as opposed to idealist) perspective
 
6:56 PM
I hear what "they" say, but I don't think it's idealist to expect your water pipes and roads to work without spending a fortune lining the pockets of incompetent people.
 
Abstractly, Hillary and Trump are just candidates who want to gain executive power. They have supporters and stakeholders. Their actions can be considered like moves on a chessboard. Hillary plays conservatively (with a perhaps weaker initial position) while Trump plays aggressively (but due to some mistakes has lost some pieces).
 
Sure. And it's all bullshit, because it has nothing to do with their qualifications to do the job.
 
That's the $64 question of our age... how do you get people into power positions with the skills they need to do the job effectively when the electoral process is driven by things like the desire to hire the first woman president?
 
I've found that the less I care about politics the happier I am.
 
7:01 PM
@enderland That is just terrifying. It suggests that the political process has been subverted by the mechanics (and positioning) of the primaries.
 
there are multiple candidates that would have handily won the republican caucus had they not fought with each other imo
 
Yeah, the Republicans don't understand that all that sniping probably cost them 8 more years out of the White House.
 
I'm not really convinced Trump won't win
he's... a lot more personable than Hillary, which is kind of depressing
 
> If you trust in yourself…and believe in your dreams...and follow your star…you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.
 
Interesting perspective. While it's true that people who work hard "make their own luck," I think you have to have some aptitude and a calling to sustain that hard work... To "follow your star," in other words.
 
7:09 PM
Well, the good news is that the US' current shit-show/crisis is drawing attention to their corrupt political system. Hopefully it will force change in that country and in others.
I've always been "the foreigner" no matter where I've lived because my parents changed continents when I was 11 months old, and because I moved quite a bit after that. As a result, I've never really felt part of a local crowd. I've never felt "nationalism." I consider myself lucky because that antiquated concept is being used to exploit people.
 
> Give a man a fire and he's warm for a day, but set fire to him and he's warm for the rest of his life
 
If US politics point anything out to the rest of the world, I hope it's that capitalism is flawed, and that nationalism is moronic.
 
Ask this on programmers.SE. They are in charge of program design. — Jossie Calderon 52 secs ago
 
@MetaFight Ur just mad cuz we're the best at everything.
jokes and kids
 
The world is a scary place. But it always has been.
 
7:16 PM
and it's getting less scary
 
it's official, Git is a magical, magical thing
 
@AJHenderson hahah
context for that though? most people see git as... magical because it's a black box that does stuff
 
I've been messing around with an SVN integrated Git repository for my local work and just gave it the worst test I could think of. I was 26 commits deep in to a major structural change in our code. I'd renamed and edited files.
Meanwhile, our person in charge of SVN did a restructure of the folder structure in SVN and also modified some of the same files and another team made heavy modifications to some of the files I'd renamed and worked on
so I go to catch up with all these changes and things pretty much just worked
 
Dude.
 
@AJHenderson that's the black box of magic part? :)
 
7:19 PM
I had to deal with a couple of merge conflicts where I altered the same lines of code as the other team and a few places where I had renamed and edited a file and the versioning person had also renamed and edited the files
 
No, you mean "box of black magic".
 
but other than that, it just happily chugged through
like it was no big deal
I mean, I understand how it does it, but still, seeing it actually do it is rather beautiful
and the good part is it means I have more developers interested in trying it now that they've seen how well it works, maybe some day my pipe dream of getting rid of SVN will come true
 
I feel lucky to work with the tech stack I get to work with
 
Which stack is that?
I'd love to work on a pancake stack right about now.
 
7:26 PM
mysql + php + notepad
 
@MetaFight notepad? all you kids and your new fangled IDEs
 
:D
 
@MetaFight editing on the server directly I hope
that's the only way to fly
 
stacks his stack with stacks so he can stack while he stacks
 
hmm, never seen that many of the same result in google image search before
 
7:29 PM
lol
 
Some are just slightly different.
Stay on-call my friend.
 
@ThomasOwens golang/python/docker (with a mix of frontend stuff and some java thrown in there)
 
You should switch to Jython.
 
I want less java, not more!
 
No, you want less Java the Language. You want more Java the Platform.
 
7:35 PM
idk. I'm really digging golangs ability to compile into a single binary
 
Rust can do that too, I understand.
As can C, but it's less "safe."
 
@AJHenderson That reminds me of slashdot: The same old jokes being told for 10+ years and everyone seems to think they're clever or original.
 
@MetaFight #yolo
 
@enderland #yofpo
 
7:53 PM
wow a question that wasn't totally off topic here
makes up for the bitbucket one
I swear I will kill anyone who inlines if statements and makes them a visual table too
 
 
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10:17 PM
@enderland Heh, if only. I just think underlying substructures should be coded well so that code changes are minimal or do happen in multiline if statements. As I said, I'm not against multiline if statements, just when they turn a table of data into a stream of paragraphs 1 word long. — horta 8 mins ago
 

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