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Shivaji Bhonsle (Marathi [ʃiʋaˑɟiˑ bʱoˑs(ə)leˑ]; c. 1627/1630 – 3 April 1680), also known as Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj, was an Indian warrior king and a member of the Bhonsle Maratha clan. Shivaji carved out an enclave from the declining Adilshahi sultanate of Bijapur that formed the genesis of the Maratha Empire. In 1674, he was formally crowned as the Chhatrapati (Monarch) of his realm at Raigad. Shivaji established a competent and progressive civil rule with the help of a disciplined military and well-structured administrative organisations. He innovated military tactics, pioneering th...

@Tezz No. Seshachalam Hills are formed during beginning of this Kalpa. Varaha Avatar of Vishnu still lives in these hills.

Venkatachala hill was brought by Garuda during beginning of Kali Yuga and Vishnu lives on Venkatachala Hill as Venkateswara

@TheDestroyer I had heard someone tried to kill Shivaji while he was asleep... but his sword was stopped magically...

@Tezz Some Hindus believe Shivaji as incarnation of Lord Shiva

@Tezz don't know.

@TheDestroyer just as Venkateshwara is revered in India...here Swargadwari Mahaprabhu is revered... and he is also connected with hills... those hills are in shape of Sesha Naga having 7 fangs shape...

@Tezz It is believed that Lord Vishnu sleeps on Seshchalam hills. See this pic

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swargadwari

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@Tezz Net is slow. picture isn't loading

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@TheDestroyer ok! No matter...

Exact face of Lord Vishnu on Seshachalam Hills

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Here is Garuda 1.bp.blogspot.com/-QXcKUoEY_x0/VWORMBANRoI/AAAAAAAADag/…

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@TheDestroyer oh! Great... It looks like face...

Keshav Srinivasan

@TheDestroyer It's certainly true that the seven hills of Tirumala are a form of Adiseshan/Vishnu. But I think the face thing is just a coincidence. I don't know of any scriptures that describe the hills as looking like Vishnu's face.

Lord Vishnu at end of Kali Yuga wake up from hills and ride on this Garuda and go to vaikunta

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@TheDestroyer what Namam does Lord Vishnu uses in his forehead?...

@KeshavSrinivasan Many priests say that Srinivasa is sleeping on Seshachalam hils

@Tezz V shaped one.

@TheDestroyer what does that mean?.. what does it denote?...

@KeshavSrinivasan This tirupati is called as Kali Yuga Vaikuntam

@Tezz Some Vaishnavas says feet of Lord Vishnu but i'm not sure. May be @KeshavSrinivasan can shed you some light.

@TheDestroyer what is story if Rising Vishnu from there at end of Kaliyuga...

Keshav Srinivasan

@TheDestroyer By the way, because the seven hills are considered to be a form of Vishnu, Ramanujacharya once walked up the hills on his knees, tying his legs behind his back so that his feet wouldn't touch the sacred ground.

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@TheDestroyer why do Vishnu keep sign of his own feet in his head?...

@KeshavSrinivasan ^^^

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@TheDestroyer Yes, and Venkateshwara is called Kali Yuga Perumal.

@Tezz Also it is believed that Nandi at Yaganti is growing and at end of kali Yuga, it will make a loud howl.

Sri Yaganti Uma Maheswara Temple or Yaganti is a temple to Lord Shiva in Kurnool District in the Indian state of Andhra Pradesh. == Location == Yaganti is located in the Kurnool District in the state of Andhra Pradesh, India, approximately 100 km from the city of Kurnool. The temple is 14 km west of Banaganapalle (Mandal headquarters) on the Banaganapalle-Peapully road. == Temple == Sri Yaganti Uma Maheswara Temple is one of the few temples patronized by one of the great dynasties of India. Every year Maha Shivaratri is celebrated and a large number of devotees from all over Andhra Pradesh visit...

@Tezz After that Lord Srinivasa will get up and ride on Garuda to Vaikunta

Keshav Srinivasan

@TheDestroyer There's a dispute over the Namam between Thenkalais and Vadakalais, the two sub-sects of Sri Vaishnavism. Thenkalais draw the Namam as a Y shape, to represent the two feet of Vishnu sitting on a pedestal. Vadakalais draw the Namam as a U shape, as they think it depicts only one foot of Vishnu, namely the foot that produced the Ganga river.

@TheDestroyer there is also an idol in Pasupatinath Temple which is believed as growing... it has came upto it's waist... it's believed when full idol comes upto feet then Kaliyuga will end...

@Tezz yes. there are many signs

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@TheDestroyer VeeraBrahmendra had predicted about Yagyanti Nandi...

@Tezz Yeah. Most of his predictions are becoming true.

@TheDestroyer he also told Sun will rise in shape of Man...

His most famous predictions are parliamentary system, Mahatma Gandhi...

Also known as Indian Nostradamas...

@Tezz Yeah. He said Srisailam would decrease fame and Tirupati would become popular

@Tezz he is believed to be avatar of Vishnu

Precursor of Kalki...

Yeah. bramhamgarikalagnanam.com/kalagnanamEng.htm

@Tezz Some of them might be added in later years.

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@TheDestroyer what do you think about Sai Baba?...

@Tezz I think a he was a sufi saint with siddhis

@TheDestroyer but as per his prediction Kalki avatar is happening soon.. or he is born already and growing now...

@TheDestroyer about Satya Sai Baba?

@Tezz Popularity of Baba is just money.

@TheDestroyer did Satya Sai Baba had siddhis?...

@Tezz When bus service was introduced from Andhra, many telugus flocked to Shirdi and later Hindu endowments took Shirdi as it was bringing them money.

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Hi may I join the discussion :)

@Tezz So, BABA was incorporated as Hindu God and his popularity grew. telugus visit more to Shirdi that Maratis though Shirdi is in Maharastra. Telugu people doesn't care about God. they even visit Darga if something good happens

@SwiftPushkar Welcome!

@Tezz I personally don't think Satya Sai had siddhis

Thanks @Destroyer I am from maharastra

@Tezz But he did some humanitarian services in Anantapur district which is drought hit district in Andhra. So, i only respect him for good work.

@SwiftPushkar oh yes, sure... Welcome...

@SwiftPushkar You would know more about Sai Baba. Are you a Sai Devotee?

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No , not , following vedic tradition , We mo

@TheDestroyer what about Prem Sai?... who is said to incarnate now...

@Tezz Now a days, Sringeri math people says we must now worship Sai. Even VHP wants to build Hanuman Temples in place of Sai temples.

Though I respect sai Baba , but i am not bhakta . Lot of people worship sai baba as main deity , in MH

@TheDestroyer Srinageri math which was established by Adi Shankara?...

@Tezz Yeah.

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Q: Is Sai Baba of Shirdi really a God?

There are so many conflicts in this. Some peoples are say that Sai Baba of Shirdi is a God while on the other end one the most respected Peeth's (पीठ) head Sankracharya told he is just a normal man. There is no need to worship him. So what is the truth Is Sai Baba of Shirdi really a God? Is Sa...

mythology belief vedas spiritual-level sai

@Tezz I don't believe in this Prem sai.

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@TheDestroyer I'm also skeptical on the miracles which are said to be perfirmed by Satya Sai Baba...

It depends upon the perspective one analyzes him from.

The first line itself answers...

@Tezz I believe him as a sufi saint

There are videos on you tube about the tricks he satya sai performed , though we people from maharastra dont know much about him. Satya sai is mostly famous in south side.

@SwiftPushkar yes, I've seen those videos...

@Tezz ok

@SwiftPushkar Yeah. He is famous in Andhra that too only in few areas. But he had some devotees such as Sachin tendulkar

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@TheDestroyer I think he died on birthday of Sachin Tendulkar...

@TheDestroyer Yes political figures, industrialist, sportsman all , due to chamatkara

@TheDestroyer all want quick fame more popularity and power

@Tezz These lineages are believed to Avatars of Shiva by their followers. I vaguely remember they say that Satya Sai was Shakti and 2nd one will be Shiva Shakti and 3rd one will be Shiva.. Don't know exactly..

@TheDestroyer yes, I have also heard that... They also tell Kalki avatar manifested as three parts...

@SwiftPushkar There are many Charalatans these days.. This is becoming downfall of Hinduism..

@Tezz This guy proclaimed himself as Kalki.

Sri Bhagavan (born Vijay Kumar, March 7,1949) also known by the title Kalki Bhagavan is an Indian spiritual guru and founder of Oneness University, a spiritual school located in South India. The title 'Kalki Bhagavan' is derived from traditional Hindu beliefs.Kalki is the name given to the tenth incarnation of Vishnu, who will appear on a white horse, wielding a sword. Bhagavan is a respectful form used to address spiritual teachers or guides. Vijay Kumar proclaimed himself as Kalki (the 10th incarnation of Lord Vishnu) in 1989, although he is now reluctant to use that title. == Early years... ==

@TheDestroyer haha it's funny...

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@TheDestroyer Yes Vedic traditions are being lost , sandhya , gayatri upasana , ramaraksha , ganapati atharvashirsh are imoprtant , but nobody cares about that. Sanskara are very important at home level for kids

At least Kalki would have his real name as funny... just as Rama had his real name Rama and Krishna as Krishna....

* his real name as Kalki

@Tezz I think Kalki will have some other name. Kalki is the one who removes Kali or filth

@TheDestroyer I think it would be coincidental circumstances and his name will also be Kalki...

@Tezz If that is the case, no one should know what KALKI means at his time (in future).

@Tezz You are really brilliant in all subjects of hinduism , I like the way you answer questions ,and your knowladge very excellent

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Rama is the one who gives enjoy to others... but his real name is also Rama... similar case... I think...

@SwiftPushkar oh Thanks!.. but there are many things I have to learn....

@TheDestroyer if the traditional Yuga theory is right then all scriptures will be lost in 427000 yrs....

At least petrol and diesel is going to be finished in coming 37 years...

@Tezz Haha. that is actually quite a large number. I believe these numbers are inflated by adding factor 360

@Tezz but all knowladge is digitally preserved , so less chance of loss

@SwiftPushkar No. What if suddenly US get destructed in some war?

@SwiftPushkar may be there can be some catastrophe... or all will be atheists so that they do not think to preserve..

@SwiftPushkar All will be atheists at end of Kali Yuga. People will be in TAMAS state.

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@Tezz - all is secure in our mind , as long as humans are there on earth this knowladge will be thet

@TheDestroyer that large no. Is because we are aware of it now... and we are in this dimension... when we are unaware/ in unmanifest state/ other dimension... those 4 lakhs year will pass in flashes of lightening...

@Tezz I think Kalki Avatar will happen in near future. May be after some 1000-2000 years.

@TheDestroyer but at least coming 4 lakh year are unimaginable and unbelievable time for us...

@TheDestroyer yes, I also think humanity can't survive in present state for Lakhs of years...

@SwiftPushkar maximum humans will not feel necessary to keep these knowledge in their mind....

@Tezz I think there's a fight between Sunni Islam and rest of world. I think Imam Mehdi supports Shia Muslim and Kalki will be same as Second coming of Christ and kill all Sunni muslims and establish Satya Yuga. I think most of the people of Bhoga Bhoomis will die in natural calamaties.

@Tezz ya but its root knowledge , and Trikalabadita. Means gor infinity , we can make use of this knowladge through out time to Survive

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@TheDestroyer maybe Kalki avatar comes to finish isis...

Some also intrepret Kalki avatar as metaphorical... like Jaggi Vasudeva...

@Tezz Could be. Internet is full of such prophecies. Some even claim that KAlKI is in India.

@Tezz Yeah.

Horse and Sword represents knowledge.

@TheDestroyer at least Kalki will born in Bharat Varsha... India, Nepal, Bangladesh, Srilanka area...

@TheDestroyer some also assiciate flying horse with development of airplanes...

@TheDestroyer @Tezz. We can survive much longer by using this ancient knowladge only, not with scientific one.Using vedic knowladge we can survive even for lacks of years. Cause its a very fundamental knowledge

@Tezz yeah. Three places : South India or Shambala which could be in Nepal or tibet.

@TheDestroyer Padmavati, wife of Kalki is likely to born in Srilanka...

Country which has lion in flag..

@SwiftPushkar how can we survive much longer..... can you give some examples?...

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@Tezz by using knowladge from vedas , puranas , following what these people told us or interpreting their messages like what shri krishna told us to do in Gita

@Tezz if we follow these instructions we can survive till end also.

@TheDestroyer but atleast Kalki should happen soon... Swargadwari Mahaprabhu arranged an akhanda Yajna which is running till now... he told this Yajna will run continuously upto Satyayuga...and I don't think it runs for lakhs of years... Satya yuga will come soon....

@SwiftPushkar at least we can be Jeevan Mukta... Immortal in the atmic sense... I don't think we will be alive in body for thousands of years... it's possible but... death is determined by Prarabdha karma....

@Tezz @TheDestroyer The purpose of this ancient vedic knowladge is, the to secure existence of human race in universe through turbulant times only and to guide humanity throughout times to come.

So we can make such karmas which will enable us to gain such bodies... may be in next life...

@SwiftPushkar yes, it's true...

@Tezz no i am not talking about individual being. I am talking about human race

So we can use this Vedic knowladge even in kali yuga and still will be able to avoid some of its conciquences .

@SwiftPushkar oh yes hunan race can be changed using Vedic knowledge... but people won't be in that path... Kali-Maya...

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@Tezz i think Padmavathi takes birth in island country. It could be lanka or britain

@TheDestroyer Is Britain associated with Lion symbol?...

It might be Singapore...

@Tezz according to Nostradamus, a person will born from place where three oceans meet and place named after religion. Hindu Maha sagar or Hindustan..

@Tezz he will bring spirituality and conquer all Nations

@TheDestroyer Nostradamus says when it is going to happen?..

People also associate rise of isis with Nostradamus prediction....

@TheDestroyer. What about some blogs sites claim that the kalki avatra is already born in south. I ave read it somewhere , want to know more

@Tezz en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Arms_of_England

@SwiftPushkar we can't verify veracity of those claims...

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@TheDestroyer they also mentioned one person.

@TheDestroyer ok

@TheDestroyer oh so it is also associated with Lion symbol...

Kalki May have born in 2012... planetary position were favourable...

After 32 years he will start his mission...

@Tezz actually , i heard about 7 island theory.. some say lanka and some say Britain and even mumbai is city of 7 islands.

Lol

So, may be his penance starts in 2044...

Mission*

@Tezz some people say that 21st dec 2012 was birthday of Kalki...

Hehe... so maybe Padmavati will be born as queen of Britain...

@TheDestroyer planetary positions were as like predicted by VeerBrahmendra in 2012... so maybe Lord Kalki is in childhood state now...

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@Tezz @TheDestroyer. Why out side india like bratain , i mean like all previous avatras born only in bharatvarsa or l

Jambudwwpa

@Tezz i think she will take birth in and around India. Or place where Hinduism is there. She will do penance for Shiva and she gets a boon that whoever sees her lust they will turn into women...

@TheDestroyer yes, its mentioned in kalki purana...

@Tezz Yeah. How can she worship Shiva if she is born in Britain?

@SwiftPushkar entire earth maybe Bharat Varsha... as all area is Karma Bhumi...

@Tezz. Ok ok got it

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@TheDestroyer Kalki Purana tells as Simhala so it is likely to be Srilanka...

@Tezz Kalki is infant now, if he was born on 21st dec 2012

@TheDestroyer but Kalki Purana is unbelievable also... it deals with minor details of future also...

@TheDestroyer yes, he will be trained by Lord Parashurama...

And will receive a sword after doing penance of Shiva... also a parrot...

@Tezz if he was born during 2012, he might have taken birth in shambala city in Himalayas. I think this city lies in other dimensions

@TheDestroyer yes either it lies in another dimension.... or he was born in Shiva temple... Shambhala can also mean Shiva temple...

@Tezz somewhere in Nepal and Tibet

@Tezz ohh. Yeah.. didn't observe

This is good

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@Tezz I do agree with you , its all high knowladge these puranas , and vedas are really contain very incredible scientific knowladge. Its a tale of evoluation , they have given all answers correctly that even modern science is lagging in answering these issues.

Ok all Good night take care bye , its very nice to chat with yoy people. GN.

@SwiftPushkar Vedic knowledge gives importance to Subtle body and soul... BUt Western science gives importance to gross body... So, Vedic knowledge is superior

@TheDestroyer I also think he will be born in Nepal Tibet or Uttarakhanda areas... ie. Himalayan areas... so that his penance can't be disturbed...

@TheDestroyer Yes very correct

@SwiftPushkar bye

@SwiftPushkar bye... Good night... nice to talk with you too ..

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Ok @Tezz bye. I will talk to you tomorrow. Bye..GN

Keshav Srinivasan

@TheDestroyer "Now a days, Sringeri math people says we must now worship Sai." Did you mean to say "we must NOT worship Sai"?

@TheDestroyer ok Bye... Good night...

@KeshavSrinivasan They opine that Sai is not Hindu God.. as he is not mentioned in Vedas or Purana. So, they say true Hindus must not worship.

Yeah typo mistake.. i forgot not

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