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2:00 PM
going anywhere nice?
Looks like i'll be going to hospital soon :O
 
@Bob I locked my screen and waited for my monitor to turn off (video out idle) and was still getting a steady fan speed of 27%
 
Bob
ah
I wonder if I'd be able to hear that
 
this is with completely stock, default configuration
 
my fans don't kick in till 60 C
 
@Bob I could turn off all my room fans and record sound of my computer running with my iphone at various distances if you want?
 
2:07 PM
they are a bit loud at full load tho
 
Bob
@allquixotic Nah, too much trouble :P
Don't think I can really judge sounds from a recording either.
@JourneymanGeek You had the Strix, yea?
 
nope
the zotac amp!
 
Bob
Oh?
Ah.
 
cat
> Carbon footprint: 0 T
Hahaha
 
Bob
You're both running zotacs :P
 
2:09 PM
woulda gotten the strix but I went for the cheapest non default cooling setup I could
who?
 
@Bob yup, except mine's cooling solution is defined by Nvidia and his is defined by Zotac
 
yup
And its not great
 
Bob
I'm still leaning towards the MSI Gaming X, but that depends how long it takes to find stock :P
 
in most cases I'd be looking at asus ;p
 
-1
A: What is the ¬ key?

my dadits jokes that's y scrub, get inside me

flag for death!
 
cat
2:13 PM
@allquixotic My actual cooling solution is defined by Nvidia because it's a reference nvidia board layout using a reference nvidia waterblock :-P
 
I guess the car analogy to my GPU preference is to buy a "stock", standard performance car like a Subaru BRZ, get the top-level trim, then not tweak it out or customize it or install aftermarket parts
 
cat
Printer offline.... gah. Have to walk to the other room to turn it on, and can't be bothered
 
Geek buys a Subaru BRZ and takes it to a hipster shop to install an aftermarket subwoofer and everything
 
cat
> Your parcel was delivered
Not to me it wasn't
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek Too long :\
I don't really want to perform surgery on my new card
 
cat
2:15 PM
Ironically it's also the only time they don't bother telling me it's delivered.
I keep getting emails and texts saying my parcel has been delivered... when I sign for it in person
 
Bob
@allquixotic Then what am I doing?
 
@allquixotic usually I tend to go with the saab ;p
 
cat
Yes I know it's been delivered I just signed for it!!!
 
My usual preference is for solid, boring options.
@allquixotic actually, the aftermarket subwoofer analogy is kinda true for periphrals...
 
cat
They never bother telling me its been delivered when it's left outside or with a neighbour, only when I already have it in my hand.
 
2:17 PM
lol
I have 3 shipments I'm waiting on ._.
dodgy cables, RFID tags, and the qi upgrade + phone case
 
Bob
I have an extra pick-up notice
I have no idea what this is for!
I'm not expecting any big deliveries right now!
 
I have 65000 shipments I'm waiting on
 
you could call em on monday?
 
Bob
?!
 
cat
I've only got one thing left to be delivered and its my acetone to clean up this stupid glue with
 
2:18 PM
I just haven't placed the order for 64999 of them yet; at some point in my life I will
 
@Bob these are all going to be regular post ;p
amusingly, actual phone case. As opposed to a phone shipped as a phone case
(also, I am really liking the op3 so far)
 
cat
Apparently flammable/harmful chemicals can't be delivered to an unattended pickup location :-/
 
Bob
Got home today and found a pick-up notice.
No clue what the hell it's for... I almost thought it was the tablet, but that's not even marked as shipped yet.
 
@cat meh, that's the sorta thing I'd rather buy locally
 
@cat no Liffium Eye-ons then? :P
 
cat
2:20 PM
@allquixotic Oh batteries they can deliver. But not bottles of acetone. Or flux cleaner.
 
@Bob my brother still uses this apartment as his shipping address ;p so most shipments are his
heh. I actually don't know where I can pick up pure acetone :(
 
cat
I'm gonna need a new apartment soon
Nothing to do with the chemicals mind you
Oh lol Amazon. They tell me during checkout this product will be shipped "naked" and I can optionally ask for it to be shipped in an Amazon box.
I click the Amazon box option, it says not possible for this order.
It arrives in an Amazon box.
It's almost as retarded as my Ebay chargeback
Ebay: Go to Paypal to review this dispute
Paypal: No disputes recorded. Go to Ebay to query.
 
cat
!!facepalm
 
cat
2:23 PM
2 mins ago, by cat
Nothing to do with the chemicals mind you
 
Bob
> Dear friend
sorry to tell you we can't send your order by AliExpress Standard Shipping.
,we just can only send this item via DHL or standard mail,
standard mai is free shipping. if DHL, need you pay extra 7usd express fees,
fark
 
@allquixotic that looks like a bakery.
 
cat
@Bob What's this for?
The GPU?
 
tablet/laptop ?
tbh, 7 quid for DHL dosen't sound too bad
 
man, everyone is on a buying spree ;p
 
Bob
2:24 PM
@cat That tablet
 
cat
Ah
 
Bob
The GPU was ordered locally then cancelled.
Cause their "in stock" lied
 
@allquixotic meh, I just bought a phone after eyeing 3 generations of em ;p
 
Bob
And now I have to wait a few more weeks of :(
 
my buying spree ended -- full stop -- after I assembled my new desktop
 
2:24 PM
other stuff is related other than the qi kit
 
that tapped me out for a while
 
Bob
I don't even care about the 7 USD for DHL. That's cheaper than the original quote of 16 USD...
It's just bloody annoying that I had to wait 4 days for them to tell me.
And the payment option is borked too.
 
and that's for my brother, since his phone has a dodgy charging adaptor. It'd keep him going until he upgrades, and since the S7 (edge?) he wants does qi charging, he gets a spare charger.
 
cat
@Bob o_0
So you ordered but actually don't have an order?
So you can still change your mind? :-P
 
@cat ordered byt not fulfilled
@Bob that's pretty bad
 
2:26 PM
I'm sorry that all you people outside the US have such horrible shipping options
 
Bob
@cat I had an order. Then I asked today when they'd ship. They said their "stock" was "damaged or warranty stock" and said they'd refund me.
I took the refund.
They'd get stock in in two weeks, but I don't want to tie up $1.2k for that long.
 
@Bob I don't have the patience to wait for hardware purchases ;p
 
Bob
(it'd be nice if it goes on my card statement for next month :P)
 
if I order from Newegg: it gets here in 2-5 business days, packaged well, and shipping is either free if I have a Premier subscription, or a few bucks (maybe $20 for something like a case, less for GPUs and CPUs and such)
 
Bob
@allquixotic MSY: $20 handling, $10 shipping...
 
2:27 PM
if I order from Amazon: since I have a Prime account it's usually free and will get here either tomorrow or the next day, without fail, including weekends
 
Bob
And even after paying that much it's up to 3 days to ship out and 5 days to arrive.
And this is local.
Dell, on the other hand, got it to me overnight...
 
@allquixotic I er... take a bus to SLS, spend an hour comparison shopping between stores...
 
Bob
Free too :P
 
@JourneymanGeek the best I can do there is go to Best Buy (terrible products, generally overpriced, rarely on sale, usually at or above MSRP, and never the ultra high-end stuff, just mid-grade previous-gen crap like GTX 960 and Core i5 Broadwell)... there are Best Buys everywhere
or drive 45 minutes to Microcenter, which has actually good componentry
and by "drive 45 minutes" I mean go 100+ km/h for 45 minutes
so, pretty far away
 
(which is a quirk of psycology. I can wait years for a piece of hardware I want. Then go sit at the door all day waiting for it to be delivered ;p)
 
Bob
2:31 PM
> Gigabyte GV-N1080D5X-8GD-B nVidia GeForce GTX 1080 Founders Edition
O_O
That's in stock. At the local store! ~15 mins walk...
DAMMIT STOP TEMPTING ME WITH THE FE.
 
@JourneymanGeek wagging your tail? lol
 
lol
the FE sounds like a decent idea
 
cat
Huh. Iberia gives me better treatment with my BA loyalty card than BA as well.
 
@allquixotic pretty much ;p
 
@Bob it'll be fiiiiiiiiine ;D
 
cat
2:32 PM
In fact it seems every airline gives me better treatment with my BA frequent flyer card than BA themselves.
 
condenser fan ftw
btw my computer is right next to where I sleep too
 
Bob
It's actually a bit cheaper than the MSI one too
 
my cromputer's across the room, but I turn it off ;p
 
Bob
FE is usually $1199 but it's $1149 here
 
long running stuff's on the NUC
and I don't leave chat running overnight anymore ;p
 
2:34 PM
@Bob is the AUD<->USD conversion that low, or are prices that inflated?
@JourneymanGeek my system (even with an Adaptec hw RAID card) can successfully suspend and resume now, albeit with significant lag upon resume... maybe I should set my system to auto suspend, or get into the habit of suspending when I go to sleep and when I go to work
it still boots up a lot faster to resume vs. booting cold, but what happens is, the GUI for the Windows login will display, but all I/O requests will get hung until the controller kernel boots up (30s) in the background
 
@allquixotic the split system setup has a few other advantages for me - I run a torrent client to auto download, and I have an available linux box
 
Bob
@allquixotic Eh... if I buy from Amazon it's a hair under 1000 AUD
 
then the disks will feverishly turn over satisfying the I/O request queue
 
Bob
Which comes to 1100 AUD after GST is added
 
2:37 PM
tbh, I don't see the attraction of raid for any system that ever gets turned off or suspended ;p
 
Bob
But GST isn't added if it's under 1000 but Amazon uses their shitty conversion rates.
 
@JourneymanGeek torrent client? ahh.... Linux ISO enthusiast
 
@allquixotic yeah. ;p
 
maybe I should get a Mac Mini for my desk that I leave on all the time no, that would be a horrible idea
getting a modern NUC might be nice though. hmm
 
@allquixotic I run the 'windows' beebox, on linux
msata drive for OS, emmc with windows in it as a backup, 2.5 inch drive for most storage
 
Bob
2:38 PM
 
cat
LOL
 
celery processor, but its the best celery processor based system there is since dual channel ram, and such
In theory I could probably swap out the (redundant) ngff wifi card for yet another drive? ;p
 
cat
Well this plane has a lot of seats...
 
first class?
 
cat
There isn't first class on short-haul
 
2:42 PM
or they're driving you there in a bus.
 
cat
Ahaha
Nice nose on that bus....
 
a short bus
 
cat
Dammit you got me
:-(
Livin' ma life on tha short bus...
 
lol
tha'ts a seriously weird shaped plane
 
cat
2:44 PM
BA: Cannot add or manage non-BA flights on this website
Iberia: We have to redirect you to the BA website to manage these flights.
!!doublefacepalm
 
ACTUALLY NO
relatedly (i'm stealing it from the same article)
This sucks
 
Bob
!!should I buy the fe
 
@Bob By all means
 
Bob
...
CURSE YOU, CAVIL
 
cat
2:45 PM
Ohno
 
!!should I be a bad dog ?
 
@JourneymanGeek But of course
 
Bob
!!that was a joke, right?
 
@Bob That didn't make much sense. Maybe you meant: what
 
Yup. Total bad influence.
 
Bob
2:46 PM
:(
!!should I ignore your last decision?
 
@Bob Not a chance
 
Bob
:o((((((((((((((((((((((((
 
!!is a FE condenser cooler too loud for a sleeping fox?
 
@allquixotic Definitely
 
....shit.
 
Bob
2:46 PM
LOL
 
actually, I kinda think the FE cooler looks cool
 
Bob
To buy or not to buy, that is the question...
 
!!should Bob buy?
 
@allquixotic Absolutely not
 
...wtf make up your mind Cavil
 
cat
2:48 PM
!!Are you giving us the real answer and just trolling Bob?
 
@cat Of course!
 
cat
Hahaha
 
Bob
hm... also I highly doubt the FE price is gonna drop
which was something I could bet on with an AIB card
 
if price is a factor, is the RX480 on your radar?
it's surely faster than a 760 by a mile
 
2:51 PM
I mean it competes with the 980 AFAIK
 
cat
@allquixotic Nah, it's closer to the 970
Though it beats the 980 in some DX12 games
 
Bob
@allquixotic Nah, I just want a 1080 as cheap (within the next 6 months) as possible
i.e. if I buy local I can claim back any price drops at the same store within that period
so, trick is to pick a store that updates their prices
and a card that is currently overpriced
FE is... unlikely
@allquixotic That's not really great for 4k though, is it?
 
how about a reference non-FE? :P
(taking into account possible binning performance deltas)
 
Bob
Oh screw it. I'll go in tomorrow and if they actually have a card in store, that's my card :P
> L=280
oof, tight fit
 
that's pretty crazy, right?
@Bob TWSS.
I suppose my 600T can manage nearly anything tho
 
Bob
2:56 PM
@JourneymanGeek was waiting for that
600T?
 
my case ;p
 
Bob
ah
 
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During our annual thermal testing we detected a hot spot on the busway power system which supplies the power to the rack where some of your servers are located.

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This should take around 20 minutes. The server will be rebooted from the hard drive once the intervention is complete.
from OVH
and it's my new server that's being recycled
what's DST? EST+1?
 
recycled?
 
recycled, rebooted, terminology
they use "recycled" where I work, I subconsciously brought it over here
 
3:02 PM
ah k
 
@Bob that's a condenser fan with the non-FE, right?
 
Bob
@allquixotic yea
comes to some 920 AUD
basically, $200 cheaper
but iffy warranty, and a wait for delivery
 
if it were me, if I had a chance to re-do my purchase instead of getting what I have, I'd probably try to find the cheapest card that has the 1080's ASIC (the GP104) regardless of the board cooling solution or FE/non-FE
most important thing is that it's GP104, imo
everything else is fairly minor
 
@Bob well, other than HDDs I've never had any hardware fail in warranty ;p
 
Bob
3:06 PM
@allquixotic My impatience says buy the more expensive FE locally tomorrow -_-
Another advantage of passive cooling: longer fan life
 
cat
@allquixotic So, a 1080 then, ASIC being irrelevant since you just want the cheapest 1080.
 
Bob
Actually, is it possible to SLI two different cards with the same core?
 
cat
@Bob Awww! Lol
@Bob You can SLI different cards with different cores, so yes?
 
Bob
@cat You can now? o.O
> Can I mix and match graphics cards that have different GPUs?

No. For example, an XXXGT cannot be paired with a XXXGTX in an SLI configuration.
 
cat
Hell with DX12 you can SLI an AMD and an Nvidia card
 
Bob
3:08 PM
> Can I mix and match graphics cards from different manufacturers?

Using 180 or later graphics drivers, NVIDIA graphics cards from different manufacturers can be used together in an SLI configuration. For example, a GeForce XXXGT from manufacturer ABC can be matched with a GeForce XXXGT from manufacturer XYZ.
Can I mix and match graphics cards if one of them is overclocked by the manufacturer?

Yes. A GeForce XXXX GTX that is overclocked can be mixed with a standard clocked GeForce XXXX GTX.
 
cat
@Bob Ahh maybe I was getting confused with AMD
 
Bob
@cat Not SLI, and also requires explicit game support, no?
 
cat
But since you have the authoritative source right there you didn't need my answer anyway xD
 
Bob
@cat Yea i looked it up a second after I asked -_-
 
cat
Gah I've been shining UV at this glue for days and it still hasn't set
 
cat
@JourneymanGeek I did complain the other day the forecast shows we're not going to have any direct sunligth for atl east a week
 
@cat find the local nail saloon and get your claws sharpened? ;p
 
cat
I've bought 12 new batteries from Amazon (just arrived) so I can run the UV torch 24/7 though why the heck I didn't just hook it up to a 5v adapter is beyond me
It's dried everywhere except around the edges. Around the edges its just ... it doesn't seem to matter how much UV I throw at it
I'm going to use solid stuff or just those external moulds next time, if there is a next time. Right now I just want this damn thing to stop covering the PCB with goo every time I assemble it
Kinda did wanna sell one of these though
 
cat
Great I think my nose is broken too
 
3:19 PM
^ Those comments though
@cat That timing...
 
cat
Inhaled enough acetone to make myself dizzy and nauseous... didn't even smell it going in :-/
 
cat
I think this lack of eating is really breaking my bodily functions now
That's about 7 days where I've only eaten 1/4 of what I should :-/
 
cat
I should really stop overdosing on these weight loss meds >_>
I'm pretty sure that's when it started
 
3:23 PM
that might be it:(
 
cat
Still, lost like 4kg in a week
4kg human weight that is, not cat weight
 
@Bob O_O I think my fan is unwilling to go under 27% even with MSI Afterburner
 
cat
@allquixotic There's a BIOS mod for that
 
oh?
 
cat
3:30 PM
Yeah, same one that controls TDP and voltages
 
link?
 
cat
NVFlash has been updated for Pascal, bios tweaker I havne't found
So that suggests editor is available but flashing isn't, but the former link says flashign is available...
 
Bob
Dammit Amazon
MSI Gaming X just went on preorder for 24th
1000 AUD
Now I can't choose again :(
!!msi or fe
 
cat
!!Are you still trolling Bob by giving him wrong answers
 
3:43 PM
@cat Nuh-uh
 
cat
Oh no!
 
Bob
...that's such a troll-ish response
oh well, it's out of stock now
> Jul 15 - 11:38 AM EST Amazon : MSI GTX 1080 GAMING X 8G Out of Stock
Jul 15 - 11:32 AM EST Amazon : MSI GTX 1080 GAMING X 8G Preorder for $729.99
I thought of putting in an order that i can cancel if I buy tomorrow, but by then it was too late :(
 
cat
Wow 6 minutes
 
THIS IS AWESOME!!! imgur.com/gallery/dTv6b
 
4:05 PM
Me today:
 
4:17 PM
@Mokubai aww
 
I have so had enough of $INCUMBENT_TELCO$
 
What HBAs support 528-byte sectors?
Why would I want to configure a hard drive to use 528-byte sectors?
 
> Enterprise drives (Parallel SCSI/SAS/FC) support
520/528 byte “fat” sectors
I was assuming an extra level of error correction above what is already on the drive
 
Hmm. So a RAID controller works best with drives configured with 520/528-byte sectors?
@allquixotic: Since you have an enterprise RAID controller in your desktop, mind if you say something about this?
 
> Ban ISPs from 'speeding up' the internet: Ex-Obama tech guru
 

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