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12:02 AM
@KitZ.Fox The betting circuits are the most accurate because they have real skin in the game. For journalists, it's all about making the horse race as interesting as possible, rather than giving a spoiler for the last chapter.
 
1:10 AM
yikes, that site shows remain:leave at 46:54
searches for a site with more optimistic results
Google has 49:51
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Yes, but that is less relevant.
It only shows whichever districts happens to have finished counting their votes first.
 
still.
I don't have enough information to gauge which polling stations I should discount as non-representative.
I think his circuits are overloading
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 All of them.
But, taking all of that into account, Leave is now ahead.
 
@Cerberus Yeah that's not helpful. :p
 
And for the first time Leave is favoured by the betting sites.
But I think nobody really knows.
Only a small percentage of the votes have been counted yet...
 
1:25 AM
@Cerberus nice map
ooh...hypothetical:
 
Thank you.
 
if Britain leaves the EU...
then Scotland will leave Britain...
then Scotland will rejoin the EU...
 
Quite possibly, yes.
And maybe in ten years the rump state will rejoin the EU too.
 
not finished!!
and then the EU will have to add Scots English to their list of languages they have to translate to.
Zing!!
 
Hah, not quite!
 
1:33 AM
Irving Welsh will be a god!
trainspotting the bible!!
@Cerberus do you mean what's left of the English government after the English Apocalypse?
I can see the dumpsters burning from here already.
 
@Mitch After the Scotch break-off.
And maybe also Wales and Northern Ireland...
 
ugh the fumes
Wales might leave britain... oh maybe not from the small returns on the ma so far.
OK totally different question to help us forget the short fuse to things falling apart
 
Ma?
 
so most people work all day, right?
 
I just refreshed and it's 51:49 now
 
1:39 AM
Don't worry, Brexit won't have that great an effect, at least not outside Britain.
 
and what they work at is mostly for customers, right?
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 It is better to follow the blog posts on that Guardian live blog: they take into account what is expected of a certain district and how the actual results vary from that, and how the variance impacts total predictions.
Although even those are extremely uncertain at this moment.
@Mitch I don't know...
 
ok bear with me...
but these customers... where do they come from? shouldn't they be at work?
 
@Cerberus Sure, not that great an effect, unless the EU itself unravels
 
That's the paradox.
explain that, smart man.
 
1:41 AM
@Mitch yeah I've often wondered
Like, how did people used to get their banking done when banks were only open 10-3
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Very unlikely.
@Mitch Oh, yes, it all depends on what kind of work they do.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Exactly. all those people taking off from work to go to the bank.
 
For many people, their work partly entails being someone else's customer.
 
it does leave out business to business people
but who are all those people walking around, driving down the street, visiting all those businesses? Are they taking off time from work? Are they unemployed? do they all work at night and then the day workers go get services from those people working at night?
 
In many lines of work, people are not sitting in their offices all day long, but have errands to run, meetings to attend, etc.
Then there are students, the elderly...
Artists.
The various free professions.
People with flexible hours.
 
1:53 AM
I demand an explanation! Who are these layabouts?
artists! Augh! where do they get the money to pay for these services they get during the day when other people are working!
Yes! I'm jealous!!
 
They work at the weekend and in the evening?
 
Lots of people who work in customer-facing jobs don't work 9-5 because their customers are only present before or after that
traditionally there was also half the adult population unemployed
@Cerberus Well, there have been several threats to it recently
 
@Cerberus Ooh, cheaper relative prices for hotels in London!! Woo hoo!
Except when you get there you'd have to eat British food.
You know what the problem with British food is@MattE.Эллен? it's that the best British food is actually Scottish food.
Zing!
Insults British food and backhands Scottish at the same time! Woo hoo!!
But really, anything fried is better.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 None to its existence, I believe.
 
2:09 AM
See Britain? That's what you're going to lose when you drop out and Scotland rejoins EU separately. Fried Mars bars.
 
...
 
 
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3:16 AM
49:51. I'm going to bed. Maybe there'll be better news in the morning
 
3:47 AM
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Doubtful.
Sleep well!
 
 
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8:26 AM
48:52.
:(
 
8:45 AM
in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, 1 hour ago, by Bart
Brexit. Cameron out. Now let's get Boris Johnson in, and have Trump be president in the US ... I'll head for my Swiss nuclear bunker.
 
9:04 AM
@TIPS yup
 
Too bad; Arau hated this Boring Johnson dude.
 
and fascism rises another rung on the ladder
 
I can't believe it reemerges, after all's happened in this world.
We're back to 1930s.
 
9:26 AM
@MattE.Эллен I can't believe we're making this mistake again less then 100 years after the last time it cost millions of lives.
 
@Magisch yup
 
@MattE.Эллен yup
 
Anyway. Enough morose naval gazing. This is EL&U, after all. We should be arguing about the price of semicolons and how split infinitives were better in my day
 
 
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10:39 AM
Haha, farewell suckers. Good riddance.
 
11:01 AM
yeah... don't worry about the robot apocalypse https://t.co/Fvlk5JpTbv
 
@MattE.Эллен And that's how you deal with Skynet.
 
11:19 AM
Brexit happened because 52% of Brits finally grew some balls and admitted to what 8 billion people around them had known for decades.
Like, the US holding a referendum where 52% say they don't believe in evolution. Shrug.
The only one sad thing about this affair is that 48% of Brits are selfish millenial pansies who would prefer to lie that they are somehow in the EU when they clearly aren't. Just so they can gentrificate to death one Berlin after another. Now all they can do is go back to London and gentrificate Matt's kitchen some more.
All very well with me. I say I say I say: vote Farage for next queen.
 
I forgive you, Reg
 
You changed my life Reg
 
I have changed many a life, and ended more still.
@MattE.Эллен hey I'm not asking for forgiveness. I'm not the one gentrificating your kettle. sips Ceylon
 
user208178
Good day.
 
user208178
hello @KitZ.Fox. you are early today.
 
11:49 AM
Shit. dumps euros
rethinks emigration
 
user208178
move to Canada.
 
user208178
well I might.
 
Even if they remained, Cameron should have resigned
Canada is just as bad plus it's cold
The south seas are pleasant but rising waters
Cuba is opening up but their cars are so old
India is cheap but the streets are dusty
 
user208178
well subcontinent is very diverse.
 
Switzerland is so sensible but you have to be born there and inherit a gold factory to afford a cup of coffee
 
user208178
11:54 AM
ha ha
 
I know someone who is a Swiss citizen because they were born in a plane flying over Switzerland at the time.
 
@Mitch why are you dumping euros? it's the GBP that took the hit
 
The markets in Europe are also falling apart over night by ripple effects. Also I save all my pounds because of the pretty pictures on them
 
you should put them on spikes
 
Euros just have dumb drawings of some village hall I've never heard of
@MattE.Эллен all my spikes are in my drinks
 
11:59 AM
So long as they're your drinks, that's OK
 
It's pretty embarrassing to roofie yourself. But at least you're compatible
"Farage: I love the poorly educated!"
(Headline I just heard)
 
user208178
12:12 PM
@Mitch move to middle east.
 
user208178
;)
 
gazes morosely at Britains' navals
 
12:42 PM
@VitaminC hmm...they're all pro-dude. And I'm a dude. So that might work.
 
Cleared my review queue. The queue is still pretty bad.
 
1:14 PM
@MattE.Эллен Nah, not fascism?
 
Which one?
- which sends an email to reset the password.
- which sends an email to reset password.
 
The.
 
thx
 
Or a possessive.
 
@Cerberus may you please give me an example for this?
 
1:24 PM
It depends on context:
 
Also there is a link in the Login page named forgot password which sends an email to reset the password.
 
Your password (if you're talking to the user).
The user's password (if it is necessary to mention that it is the user's).
Etc.
 
@Cerberus ah
 
@stack That is fine.
 
ok thx ^ :-)
 
1:25 PM
Probably.
 
1:42 PM
@VitaminC I got your request. I feel you should be patient and wait, so I'm going to respectfully decline. You should feel free to ask another mod if you want.
"You can't feed a society exaggeration, hyperbole and propaganda for over a decade, and then claim surprise when people don't seem to be making rational decisions on the basis of well established truth.

There's a cost associated with not telling the truth. There's a cost associated with polarized, adversarial public discourse. There's a cost associated with media more concerned with profits than the public interest.

It is, apparently, time to pay the piper."
@MattE.Эллен, ^reaction to Brexit from another Brit on FB.
Brits do everything posher.
 
user208178
@KitZ.Fox Yes I understand. It's fine.
 
> According to Google Trends, there was a 250 percent spike in searches for “what happens if we leave the EU” around midnight British time, which is after the voting ended and presumably around the time global currencies went wild and Scotland started saying again it didn’t want to be part of the UK anymore.
This is in support of "the Brits didn't know want they were voting for", but it doesn't show who was googling. Maybe the rest of the EU was wondering.
 
@KitZ.Fox Presumably, that wouldn't have been "we"
 
1:59 PM
@terdon If I lived in Greece, wouldn't I also google "what happens if we leave the EU"? Isn't 'we' relative to the group?
 
@KitZ.Fox Exactly. So if the rest of the EU were googling, I would expect the peak to be for "what happens if they/the UK leaves the EU" instead.
 
Right.
What happens if we leave the EU?
Because the UK already has.
For instance.
Is what I'm saying here.
 
Ah! I see, right.
It's the language that threw me off. Apart from Ireland, nobody else would be likely to run the search in English.
And nobody but the Brits would be presumtious enough to assume the "we" would be understood :P
 
could be Americans.
We're dumb enough to think that we are part of the EU.
 
@KitZ.Fox it's a fair point
@Cerberus well, tories are authoritarian and right of centre. ukip is authoritarian and right wing. maybe they can hide the beaks under a bowler hat, but I can hear them quacking
 
2:10 PM
@MattE.Эллен Why would you call the tories authoritarian?
 
Anyway. I want to leave this topic alone. I am depressed and angry, so it isn't a good idea for me to encourage discourse on the subject.
 
Ah. Never mind then :)
 
The quacking was actually my breakfast.
 
Everything will be all right.
 
2:12 PM
Also, I can't find my cleavage pics, sorry.
 
EU rules will still mostly apply in England.
And there is a chance that England will rejoin the EU in 10 years.
It's just a hiccough.
 
@MattE.Эллен just for the record, I find the tories to be bigoted, close minded idiots. I just wouldn't have called them authoritarian and was wondering what you knew that I didn't. No need to reply, just clarifying that I ain't no tory lover.
 
@terdon it's cool. :) I feel all politicians are authoritarian in the dictatorial sense
i.e. if they could be Caesar, they would
 
Oh, generalizing. That's fine then.
We agree
FFS
 
2:16 PM
David Catmeron
 
Clearly a Slytherin Animagus
 
Grr. no one box, but yeah :)
Hope that's making you smile rather than rubbing salt in the wound.
 
Haha.
 
2:24 PM
Someone said "I voted Leave, but I didn't think it would actually happen." My friend replied, "Well, that's the trick with protest votes."
 
Is that pork 'n' beans?
Is that a British thing?
 
I think it's just beans
for some reason the poster thinks that baked beans are a British invention
 
I have little t...tr...omg, what are those little dishes called? My brain refuses to tell me.
 
unlike toad in the hole, Cornish pasties, and spotted dick
 
2:25 PM
@MattE.Эллен That's a Boston invention.
Well, at least you can flee to Scotland. You won't even have to leave the island.
Plus, despite the haggis, I hear it's a pretty cool place to live.
 
yeah, fingers crossed they leave, this time!
 
And they have such nice dialects up there.
 
@KitZ.Fox I'm not too much a fan of the cold and the darkness
 
And a unified Ireland! Can you even imagine? 16 + (6 - EU) = 1.
 
:-o
that would be something
I hadn't thought of that
 
2:27 PM
I'm sure there's a way to make that equation both funnier and correcter.
 
I don't understand it...
 
Well, Northern Ireland has to leave the EU to motivate them to leave the UK, like Scotland...maybe...?
I'm feeling really American right now.
puts head in hands
 
(6- EU) = 1 - 16
- EU = -15 - 6
EU = 21
Don't they teach maths in the UK?
 
Yes, but with phonics
you get answers that sound about right but you've no idea why
 
Just when I was feeling reassured that there is no way Trump will be elected.
 
2:31 PM
Americans are smart, right? They invented the internet...
 
I think democracy sucks.
What do you call it when only people who are educated about and impacted by the issue are allowed to make decisions about the issue?
 
meritocracy?
 
That sounds like "deserving" which is wishy-washy.
But maybe.
 
@KitZ.Fox What about people who are impacted but uneducated?
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Then they should either get educated or give up their right to have a say in it.
 
2:39 PM
@KitZ.Fox And how do we ensure that people are receiving proper education?
I'm just asking cuz if we can solve this problem it would help a lot.
 
Well, we aren't going to solve it, are we?
Because Mississippi. And Texas. And California.
Because people who don't know anything about education are in charge of deciding what needs to be taught.
 
@MattE.Эллен What? They aren't? They're certainly popular in the UK.
Well, I'll be damned.
> In the UK, Ireland, Australia, New Zealand, Hong Kong, Brunei, Malaysia and Singapore the term baked beans usually refers to tinned beans in a tomato sauce. They were originally imported from American companies, first sold in the UK in 1886 in the upmarket Fortnum & Mason store in London as an expensive foreign delicacy.
 
@terdon so are croissants, Belgian chocolates and German beer :D
 
@KitZ.Fox California is a problem?
 
@MattE.Эллен True, true, I've just only ever seen baked beans in the UK.
 
2:44 PM
ah!
I guess I hadn't thought about it
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I don't know. I'm ranting.
 
@terdon Hilarious.
 
Wow. Baked beans as "an expensive foreign delicacy". The mind boggles boggedly.
 
Beans are about the least expensive thing ever.
Rice is probably less expensive.
 
Ah, but these are foreign beans, y'see.
 
2:46 PM
@terdon Γίγαντες are nice, too. not popular here, though
 
I'm listening to a British woman fake an American accent.
 
how's she doing?
 
Pretty good.
 
@MattE.Эллен That they are.
 
Now I've got to listen to her regular accent.
Whoa.
Sounds Scottish.
giggles, stares off into space
Oh, I guess she does Scottish and British accents, depending on what she feels like.
 
2:50 PM
@terdon I think they're like 30 cents a can here...and they taste pretty bad, sweet.
 
I've left my headphones at home :( I'll have to give her an appraisal later
 
@KitZ.Fox How do you listen to these videos? Do you put the volume way up or is not hearing her well part of the point?
 
@terdon My volume is about 20%. This one doesn't seem so quiet to me.
 
@KitZ.Fox Earphones, I guess?
 
But yes, usually I don't try to pay too much attention to what they are actually saying.
@terdon Yes, I work in an office.
 
2:52 PM
Fair enough
 
I'd love to do a Scots accent, but I can't manage it.
I feel like I'm having my brain scrubbed. I really needed this today.
 
user208178
does anyone here use "straightdope"?
 
The expression? Yes, but I'm old.
 
user208178
@KitZ.Fox do you ever chat from home? or just from office?
 
@VitaminC Both, on my phone sometimes too, but not often.
 
user208178
3:03 PM
@KitZ.Fox no I meant the site: straightdope.com
 
user208178
It's a Q/A site.
 
Oh. No. That's how old I am.
 
user208178
heh
 
Sounds like Skeptics.SE
 
user208178
Yeah. about general questions, politics, debates etc.
 
3:18 PM
Mars has a diverse security profile with the main highlights being the only Moon MSSP in country, along-with Jupiter as sole technology partner as well.
I don't know how to juggle repeating of meaning?
Like "being only one in country"
 
The Jupiter-Mars technology partnership has a diverse security profile featuring the only Moon MSSP in the country.
 
Thanks Kit , but Mars is a company like Google and Moon and Jupiter are ones Mars is in sole partnership
 
Mornin.
 
3:36 PM
@MετάEd Hello, my friend, hello.
@Saladin I have no idea what that means.
> Nigel Farage, the leader of the UK’s Independence Party, celebrated the vote by saying Brexit was achieved “without a single bullet being fired.” He apparently forgot that one week ago, MP Jo Cox was fatally shot and stabbed in broad daylight by a man shouting “Britain first.”
 
Mars has a diverse security profile with the main highlights being the only Intel Macafee MSSP in country. Following the trend of first adopters of latest security technologies, Just recently, Mars has also become Jupiter sole partners in the country as well.
 
Neil Diamond. Not a bad soundtrack for today.
 
@KitZ.Fox that man. just. 😠
 
It's extra tragic for the UK because that never happens there.
So it should really be more memorable.
 
4:04 PM
> Donald Trump celebrated Britain’s stunning vote to leave the European Union on Friday during a visit to Scotland, saying that the people of the United Kingdom have “taken their country back," musing that it could benefit his Turnberry resort and arguing that running a nation is a lot like running a golf course.

“I think it’s a great thing that happened," Trump told reporters shortly after his helicopter landed at Trump Turnberry. “People are angry, all over the world. People, they’re angry.”
Count on Trump to say the dumbest possible thing about the Brexit.
 
there was a blip this morning against the euro, but the pound isn't doing badly against it. It's lowest point in 5 years was mid July last year. It's been much worse against the dollar, too.
 
4:22 PM
I wonder what Jez voted.
Care to bet?
 
I'm sure he's super happy today
 
aye
rgb colour spectrum background js fiddle: jsfiddle.net/6ovzqw6a/1
 
4:35 PM
@MattE.Эллен Neat, here's one in CSS: jsfiddle.net/u1n05wa2
 
@terdon Noooo idea.
 
better than mine, as it has proper yellow, cyan and magenta
 
yours has math though, mine is just relying on the browser vendors to know math
 
Happy Swedish midsummer everyone! Now you can finally succumb to that urge to dance like a frog around a phallic piece of wood.
 
4:40 PM
That's so SWRist — Mitch 57 secs ago
 
saturday night swrist?
 
@KitZ.Fox THe US should join the EU, just to spite the UK.
@MattE.Эллен hides bowler hat
Doubles as a soup tureen!
 
such a useful device
 
@KitZ.Fox Oh my god, you monster, those poor poor live ducklings
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 dental refugees
@KitZ.Fox Venus is leaving the consortium I heard. holds back a single tear
 
5:07 PM
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 fixed it! jsfiddle.net/6ovzqw6a/2
 
@Mitch Look, some of my best answers are on SWRs. Those are the good ones. I think you'll agree that there are good SWRs and bad SWRs, and quite frankly, the bad ones should just be deleted. They don't belong here.
 
@MattE.Эллен while I'm logging bugs against your work, might I suggest that it compute its work in relation to the size of the canvas, so that it can work on smaller canvases?
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 that sounds hard. I thought about it, too, but it would need antialiasing stuff in there
 
As a user I don't care how hard the programmer's job is :p
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 as the user I don't want it to do anything else :D feel free to do it, though. It's open source ;)
 
5:22 PM
in Language Overflow, 7 secs ago, by TIPS
Funny how 99% of the internet is against Brexit. Where are the 52% now?
 
As a user, I like to tell the programmer that their job is not difficult so that I can feel better about myself.
 
@MattE.Эллен oh, wait, the canvas is used as a background element on the document. ah, so you could set the width of the body and set the background attachment or fill or whatever so that the browser resizes it
 
@KitZ.Fox you just need to make it work at any resolution
 
would that be cheating? making the browser resize it?
 
5:24 PM
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 at the moment, it would make the pattern non-repeatable
 
@MattE.Эллен Like this -- takes out phone and demonstrates pinching gestures
 
@MattE.Эллен non repeatable in the X direction?
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 yes
 
I always have to look up how to attach backgrounds
but that's what I want: not to have it repeat in X, because I want it to fill the width just one time.
 
5:27 PM
So the wavelength should be scaled for the ...
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 oh! yeah then do it on resize. use the css rule to stop x repeating. it will still have a problem, because it uses the width of the canvas to determine how many pixels in the width of a rainbow. you could fix that with some cleverish maths, but I don't want to do that right now. maybe later.
 
falls asleep on the keyboard
 
I just made coffee.
 
but of course, then the problem with x repetition goes away
 
And that's exactly why, too.
My excuse is I was up before 6.
Citation: Negation in bounded commutative DRℓ-monoids. Contains the property ¬(x+y)=¬x−y=¬y−x=¬y−¬¬x=¬x−¬¬y, which makes no sense whatsoever if "negation" isn't the extension to monoids of "multiplication by –1". — Peter Shor 15 mins ago
Best. Citation. Ever.
 
5:35 PM
is the symbol after DR a cursive l?
"el"
 
"Script Small L"
 
ah! thanks
ℓoopy ℓoo
 
it's weird that in "DRℓ-monoids" the D and R and ℓ are part of an acronym (dually residuated lattice ordered monoids), but it isn't written DRL monoids... wikipedia suggests that the ℓ is meant to represent a more easily-disambiguated L...
 
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Q: Expression to describe self-inflicted fall from a position of strength

DavidTwelve months ago, Mr David Cameron — the British Prime Minister in government alliance with a smaller party — won a surprise outright victory in a general election. This put him in a position of considerable power. However he subsequently called a referendum on British Membership of the EU, camp...

Needs comment cleanup.
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Maths are weird.
@MattE.Эллен I believe every Unicode character has its own Wikipedia page. You can just drop a character into the Wikipedia search box and find the page.
 
@MετάEd good point
 
5:53 PM
@KitZ.Fox haha! of course. delete bad questions. of which there are many that are SWR. I'm just wondering if an extra 'don't go away mad, just go away ... to this other place' is a problem.
 
@Mitch I think you missed my joke.
I was using typical racist speech patterns.
 
@KitZ.Fox Oh. haha. rereading it is actually funny now that it has been explained.
Also, that's racist-ist
Except that actually sounds really reasonable. about SWRs.
I feel queasy
 
Creepy, innit?
 
I know.
first they came for the SWRs
 
Then they came for the orthography
But they stayed for the shagging.
 
5:59 PM
!!!
I bet linguist conferences are just as ... euphemizing... as other conferences
 
What? Your command of the English language doesn't get you laid?
 
or were you talking about the upholstery?
 
Huh. Maybe I'm falsely attributing my prowess.
 
looks go a long way
also...
 
Right. What else might explain it?
 
6:00 PM
Meeting!!
BBL
 
kbai
 
I hope the vote doesn't mean we abandon metric
I think that's what set this off. all the people who got forced on to the metric system had had enough converting between kg and lb
 
Mwa hahahaha
 
6:49 PM
@MattE.Эллен You could always re-unify with America, like in the good ol' days
 
so the Queen could rule over all of North America. It's a good idea.
 
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