The Nineteenth Byte - 2016-05-19 (page 1 of 7)

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12:00 AM

wtf english I'd and I'd expand to diffrence things...

@AlexA. I like it

> diffrence things

@QPaysTaxes I know, but it is difficult to make a context sentitive chatbot. Handling contractions is difficult as-is without worrying about contractions

needs more buffalo

@QPaysTaxes ...

I am trying to create an actually smart chatbot this time

12:04 AM

the instant app install things look AWESOME

@Sparr I didn't say that was my only objection. I merely stated that was one example. I object to the situation of peeking as well as the others in the article.

@Downgoat an intelligent one? like.. Tay? :)

@aditsu depends on how intelligent you consider Tay

well, it can parse and learn wonderful things from other people

theonion.com/graphic/cover-letter-writing-tips-52939

12:10 AM

wow a wild @bjb appeared

have you guys heard that Trump is threatening to sue The Onion and demanding an apology?

This domain's chat sound is atrocious and surprises me in how bad it is every time I join chat here.

@bjb568 chat sound? like in pings?

bah! it happened again!

yes

@bjb568 oh noes

12:12 AM

:0

@bjb568 are you saying the sound is different in other SE chats?

Yep, in SO chat and MSE chat.

@bjb568 ok, I didn't know that

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ohai @bjb568

Hallo

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12:13 AM

@aditsu the onion?

@bjb568 ?

oh, the ping sound.

Why don't you like it @bjb568?

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ yeah, look 4 lines higher for a sample

cdn-chat.sstatic.net/chat/se.mp3

MSE and SO have much better chat sounds

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Jarring, gets annoying when repeated.

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oh, I like it. :/

12:15 AM

there is a chat plugin to set your ping sound

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the SO one sucks.

@Quill link?

:/

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@Quill what?

missed the edit.

sounds like MSE now

@Quill ping

12:16 AM

I'm going to look for an old challenge and answer it in Jelly. I guess I may as well try to learn SOME golfing language.

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@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ y u close teh skypes

Jelly is easily the hardest to learn. I'd start with Pyth.

Pyth then

lol

I'd start with CJam, but I'm a little biased :p

Correction:

I should learn to program before I learn to golf

12:18 AM

@Quill do you know how to fix this errorL

Warning: Cannot find module '../modules/web.dom.iterable' Use --force to continue.

I think babel is borked

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ github.com/murukeshm/SEChatSound

@aditsu "little"

@Downgoat you're probably missing a babel plugin

@Quill but I'm not?

Speaking of which did you push the overlapping slices fix to SourceForge?

12:20 AM

rm -rf node_modules
npm install

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My new ping sound:

rikerw.github.io/rick_astley-never_gonna_give_you_up_v3.mp3

test pls?

@Downgoat ping me.

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ beautiful

it's a bit long

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

lol

oops

BUT THE GLORY

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Totally won't be abused

12:21 AM

@EasterlyIrk nice...

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@quartata ikr

Will the entire song play every time you get pinged?

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yeah

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ huh that sucks

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hey, at least it only plays once. not multiple times for each ping.

12:21 AM

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ weird

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ it would also be annoying if someone pinged you a lot

Does it start over with each ping or do they play asynchronously?

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... i don't mind, that has no effect.

@EasterlyIrk downgoat is right

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@AlexA. neither, successive pings don't do anything.

:D

If already playing, it does nothing.

12:22 AM

@Quill O_o that fixed it

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And it stops at the chorus.

4 mins ago, by Quill

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ https://github.com/murukeshm/SEChatSound

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@QPaysTaxes and the sound link

rikerw.github.io/rick_astley-never_gonna_give_you_up_v3.mp3

So effectively you aren't audibly notified of pings. Might as well mute them and play Never Gonna Give You Up on iTunes or something.

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@QPaysTaxes instructions

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Q: SE Chat custom notification sound

Screenshot / Code Snippet About Someone found the current *beep* sound annoying and asked for a way to change the sound. Such a feature did not exist, so I created this UserScript which adds a button next to the notification settings button. This button opens a popup which allows you to ...

@AlexA. nah, i'm good.

12:23 AM

Except that's a broken version on StackApps

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if I don't want it I can refresh.

yeah

in python? yeah

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somebody ping me?

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

hm

0/10 no workee

try again?

oh, works now.

thanks

12:25 AM

I have changed the chat ping sound now. Ping me!

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gtg bai

Gonna record myself yelling "pls send the codez" and make that my new ping sound

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@bjb568 goodbye

:D

:D x2

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what sound?

12:26 AM

askubuntu

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okay

Elendia is in charge of Pytek

It'll be a foreach loop but it will have a couple goodies and it won't look like for.. in

?

@NathanMerrill contributor lieutenant guy person

12:29 AM

@quartata ah, but I imagine El'endia is still making the design decisions?

I was confused because Q's question made it sound like you were :)

@phase thanks for using Cheddar as an example of shitty commits

@QPaysTaxes blog.jadonfowler.xyz/2016/05/16/good-git.html

go to the "Notice how much code I changed. You shouldn’t be adding everything at once, nor should you only add a couple characters. I’ll leave it as an excercise to the reader to find a happy medium. I tend to stick to committing once I’ve implemented a major feature or have fixed a bug." part

I personally think that CI commit was fine since it wasn't really code

On the topic of git, I made a repo for Chatgoat 3.0

@QPaysTaxes we also will have a \nestfor which takes multiple blocks and executes each at the corresponding depth of the array e.g

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@Downgoat @phase has a really nice blog.

12:39 AM

\nestfor { 1 } { 2 } { 3 } on [[[1,2],[3,4]], [[5,6],[7,8]]] executes 1 on [[1,2],[3,4]] and [[5,6],[7,8]], 2 on [1,2] [3,4] [5,6] [7,8] and 3 on 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8

Although it isn't really in that order.

More like [[1,2],[3,4]] on 1 then [1,2] [3,4] on 2...

@QPaysTaxes where did u get the domain

b/c it comes up with github rn

@QPaysTaxes does this help? (assuming you've already made your gh-pages branch)

:D

@QPaysTaxes Yes those are all actually functions. Functions can take a code block, like in Ruby

Yeah.

We haven't quite puzzled out what the syntax for defining functions that take blocks will look like though.

oh no, I just sent an email to bob@students.mit.edu regarding downgoat.me :|

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lol

#fail

12:45 AM

I don't want bob to steal downgoat.com ;_;

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@Downgoat downgoat.net

@Downgoat he won't, trust me.

Well I know a college you're not getting into ;)

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ but its free, so (s)he might

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he won't want the hassle

No goats allowed at MIT

12:46 AM

eh, downgoat.com is still available

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\o/

@quartata ;_; brb starting protest outside capitol

@QPaysTaxes Dammit, I wanted to use my last name but the only domain available is .rocks. :/

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lol

> I'll take a Alex, on the rocks.

@AlexA. what about alexiswrong.com?

Also .rocks isn't free, only .me is

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12:50 AM

@QPaysTaxes not really.

wrongismyna.me

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lol

Nick?!

@QPaysTaxes \o/

TIL

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12:51 AM

@AlexA. is that so suprising?

@QPaysTaxes noice

@QPaysTaxes an alex has a feather for style, like some martinis have a lemon/lime slice.

Suave

But you don't put citrus in a martini

You put an olive in it

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My grandfather doesn't...

@AlexA. people have names, you know

that said WE DONT HAVE NAMES ON THE INTERNET

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He puts spicy mustard and either a lemon or lime slice.

It's disgusting.

Spicy mustard?

WTAF

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12:52 AM

yeah

ikr

it's fucked up

@AlexA. kinda like saskmustard.com/consumer/recipes/recipe-mustardmartini.html

Oh nice, I can get dude420.me

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lol

quartata.xyz is only 44 cents, noice

@AlexA. alex420.me is available

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user image

:P

yeah

TIL gmail isn't a school.

12:55 AM

TIL bob@students.mit.edu is eligible for downgoat.me but downgoat isn't ;_;

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lol

I still have my university email address but I don't really want a .me tld

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@flawr should register brokenairfra.me.

@quartata i'll take it

pls?

you can have a .com can't you?

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yeah

12:57 AM

fuck.me is taken :(

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but only .me is free

@AlexA. curl it see if there's anything there

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or just go the site...

user image

That's it? I was expecting something that stole your cookies or something

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@quartata it's just owned by the domain provider for .me.

1:04 AM

la.me

i.redditmedia.com/…

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wtf

El'endia Starman

@orlp [eye twitch]

Should: 2 + "foo" implicitly cast and make "2foo" or throw an error?

user image

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@Mego :D

El'endia Starman

1:11 AM

@Downgoat quartata had the idea of using different operators for addition and concatenation like Perl, thus Pytek will do + for addition, which attempts to coerce strings to numbers, and << for concatenation, which will coerce numbers to strings.

@El'endiaStarman oh :/ I don't like the implicit thing and multiple operators so I'll go with erroring

El'endia Starman

Which is the other good option and perfectly reasonable.

Anonymous

1:28 AM

@mınxomaτ We are great!

Anonymous

I'll fight anyone who says we're ~~noot~~ not

function G(f, v){
  if (v == f(v)){
    return v;
  } else {
    return G(f, f(v));}
  }

shit

Anonymous

That looks like a stack overflow waiting to happen

@Cyoce nice indentation

^^

looks like Cheddar's tokenizer source code

Anonymous

@AlexA. It's not taken. It's just squatted.

Anonymous

1:30 AM

G=lambda f,v:v!=f(v)and G(f,f(v))or v

Anonymous

Python is so beautiful sheds tear

@Downgoat I linked to Cheddar like 5 times. Now you know what to do better :D

@phase yeah but I'm using c9 so I can't keep my ssh keys and all there to sign my commits

@Mego I don't think "beautiful" is the right word

@Mego G=(f,v)=>f(v)==v?v:G(f,f(v)) JS is beautifuler

Anonymous

@Cyoce You lose lots of points for having to use ===

Anonymous

1:33 AM

And now it's not the same code

^^^

It's the same as the original code I wrote

@Downgoat Command line or nothing

@phase I do use command line

but because C9 is shared, I'm pretty sure everyone else would be able to see my ssh keys

@Downgoat What are you sharing in it? The code?

1:36 AM

@phase C9 is an online IDE / workspace, but it's also collaborative so they can open up a terminal and run cat ~/.ssh/github_rsa and, boom, they've got my private keys

@Downgoat "they" being other people working with you on the project?

@phase yeah

|*({a/gate b/*} ?:(=(b (a b)) b $(b (a b))))
Yay, fixpoints!

10←?=aeaGaae Pretzel is not very beautiful

@Downgoat I think using git as it was made would be easier than having people work on an "online IDE" which has less features than a terminal.

1:38 AM

Anyway, what should I call G?

@phase oh, it's a full-featured workspace. I can run sudo rm -rf / --no-preserve-root for all I wanr

fix, because it gets the fixpoint

@Downgoat Then commit properly

But f, i and x are taken... ಠ_ಠ

@phase I am trying

1:43 AM

@Downgoat From the latest commit: What operator did you add? What does it do? What did you change to make it work?. Ask yourself questions that you think someone viewing the code would ask.

@phase ack, git messed up my thing

I did "added `repr` operator" but my command line interpreted repr which was not intended

lemme fix that

@Downgoat And add a descriptoin!

i.imgur.com/GL9Je3O.gifv

@Cyoce Hm, which ones aren't? @ might work, for attractor

@Downgoat you shouldn't be using -m or similar

1:45 AM

@Doorknob :|

@Downgoat Always use a terminal editor.

Anonymous

I use -m for very short commits (like "performance enhancement in X function by using Y approach instead of slower Z approach" or "merge PR#whatever")

Anonymous

But most of the time I just use vim to edit the commmit message

Anonymous

inb4 emacs vs vim fight

Micro is pretty cool.

1:48 AM

@phase That screenshot looks /very/ vimmish

@Doorknob it looks like every other terminal text editor

@Maltysen android.com/versions/name-n

@HelkaHomba yeah I saw the keynote

submitted nutella

I assume it had to be candy related

What else works besides Nutella?

nougat

I also submitted that

1:51 AM

That could get really bad really quick. "N***er" for example

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@HelkaHomba No.

@phase he said that google reserved the right to pick the winner :P

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@phase lol

oh great, I fucked my entire commit history trying to fix it with rebase ;_;

Someone post this on 4chan please I need to see it burn

1:52 AM

@Downgoat gg

Anonymous

Why would you use rebase?

Anonymous

Don't try to re-write history

oh no, git pull reverted all my changes ;_;

@phase Yeah but Google's obviously smart enough to anticipate that

Anonymous

@Downgoat git gud

1:54 AM

@Mego The "never rebase" mantra doesn't make sense when you're squashing trivial commits or similar; I've always preferred "always quintuple-check while rebasing"

@Maltysen And Nutella is technically a brand name so it's probably a no-go too :/

@HelkaHomba they did kit-kat

oh yeah

Anonymous

I'd rather keep the trivial commits as a monument to my sins, so that they might remind me not to do that again

is there anyway to recover my stuffs or did git fuck up my code completely

Anonymous

1:56 AM

Git didn't do anything except what you told it to do. You fucked up.

@Mego git commit -m "changed all spaces to tabs" :P

@Mego I accidentaly did git rebase --skip and I think it deleted that commit

Anonymous

@Maltysen That's not trivial. That's massive, and incorrect.

WHY WOULD YOU NAME IT SO INNOCENTLY IF IT IS SO EVIL

@Downgoat do u still have ur code on github or somethin?

1:58 AM

@Maltysen no

i am so sad right now ;;;__;;;

Anonymous

Don't listen to me

@Mego checkout and branch

add

status

Neopolitan

1:58 AM

diff

log

blame

@NathanMerrill git: 'Neopolitan' is not a git command. See 'git --help'.

remote?

Anonymous

rebase should not be used :P

is my code gone now? :'(

Anonymous

stash is also useful

1:59 AM

stash, yeah

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