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10:01 AM
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sd k
 
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sd k
 
10:19 AM
sd k
 
@SmokeDetector f
> In general, each time your mappings in the Spring I have to look for the user to create an object and is already working with him. Those. let's say I go to the / profile, I pull out the name of an authorized user, looking at the basis of its, if all goes well then working with him. Click on / index, we again have to search for the user in the database, create the object again, and I build the page under it. How to avoid the search and creation of a new object?
That is the post translated
 
@Yvette User removed from blacklist (5839039 on stackoverflow.com).
 
I thought that we should do k for latin posts. That is what I did a few days ago.
I hope I didn't cross the threshold. Because I had even made few mistakes when I was newly privileged.
@ArtOfCode What is the % of my wrong feedbacks to sd?
:29728162 f
 
I hope not, you have been doing well.
 
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[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword with email in body, pattern-matching website in body: SAP WORK FLOW VIDEO CLASSES by amruth1919 on stackoverflow.com
 
10:30 AM
sd 2k
 
Let me see if sd is ignoring me responses or not.
@SmokeDetector k
 
wouldn't they tell you?
 
It's not ignoring. I've still not crossed the threshold
 
were you close to it?
 
@Yvette They would. But not at the exact moment as they are not active right now.
@Yvette I don't know
 
10:36 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body: Custom essay writing service by theamjser on stackoverflow.com
 
sd k
 
10:57 AM
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!!/pull
 
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!!/alive
 
@AshishAhujaツ Of course
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11:02 AM
Bye
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive body detected: Form Loops in Silex by freemindghost on stackoverflow.com
 
@SmokeDetector f edited
 
11:18 AM
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@SmokeDetector k
 
11:46 AM
Backoff received of 10 seconds.
 
Why is smoke detector posting cat images
 
Heh I've just submitted a photo to that site, the next one could be Smudge
 
which site?
 
@Yvette This one: random.cat
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: leafy vegetables and fruits fairly by eanemos on drupal.stackexchange.com
 
11:55 AM
sd k
@PeterJ thanks we have 3 cats
 
Cats in Australia
can no longer feel like they're the hunter in the neighbourhood
Cause in Australia
everything hunts
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of answer: How to get all items in a view using REST API by abhishek on sharepoint.stackexchange.com
 
sd k
@Magisch they are considered a pest to the local wildlife and people generally keep them indoors, especially at night
 
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@Yvette cats?
 
12:03 PM
sd k
@Magisch yep
 
What is the local wildlife in australia? Roided out 'Roos and drop bears and deadly snakes and spiders?
What chance does a house cat stand against that
 
@Magisch Actually it's an interesting stereotype I know is common, apart from the far north where there are crocs about (and it's too hot for anyone sensible to live) there really aren't too many dangerous animals likely to attack I can think of. For example the state I live in every snake is (very) venomous but they just run off and there's antivenom anyway.
 
@PeterJ exaclty
a lot of birds Mag
 
Idk
 
and some small furry critters also
 
12:05 PM
All I hear about Australia is about the funny local dialects or how everything wants to kill you, including the plants
 
we have a large number of dangerous animals and rarely is someone ever killed by them
yeh, it's a joke
 
Probably because people that have survived that long in australia know not to touch stuff that looks cheesy
 
to keep people away from the best kept secret on the globe
 
The most dangerous animal that you could possibly cross here is a small (up to 11cm long) snake whose venom is like a bee sting
only less painful
Maybe a raccoon, these are not to be trifled with
 
12:08 PM
as Peter said most snakes will run away, a death adder will freeze and stay still, you'd be pretty unlucky to step on one
sd k
there are some aggressive snakes, but it's pretty easy to avoid them
 
I have regular owls on my balcony
they will not leave
 
I know. it's nice :D
 
and im not going anywhere near picking up a giant owl
 
nice place you live
 
Not sure if this is still accurate but in Germany you probably have an animal that used to kill more people in Australia than any other - bees (although I think that's still only a handful a year)
 
12:10 PM
We have bees
but I dont consider bees a pest
they're nice, and they don't invade or deliberately mess up people
 
that's the point, neither does Peter
 
Wasps on the other hand....
 
our "dangerous" animals are peace loving, they just want to get on with it and don't bother us, if you know how to navigate in the bush and the beaches
wasps are painful
 
Hornets are OK
bumblebees are just goofy bees
bees are also OK
but wasps really, really suck
 
12:15 PM
@SmokeDetector k
@SmokeDetector k
@SmokeDetector k
 
sd k
 
15 hours ago, by sandwich
FR: post a random cat picture with each backoff message.
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, pattern-matching website in body: Les personnes en surpoids plus de 85 ans pourraient vivre by Sabst1968 on stackoverflow.com
 
sd k
 
sd k
 
12:23 PM
Whats a backoff message anyways
 
It's when the server tells Smokey to take a 10-second break from reading posts.
 
Is that the Stack Exchange API telling Smokey to "Hey, cool down there a little?"
@Yvette Those are some amazing cats
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Have you ever ever observed bagginess below by gdrawi max on superuser.com
 
If they roll up to sleep you could have Ying & Yang
 
sd k
@Magisch thank you
when I'm on a break I can tell you about them
 
12:37 PM
@Magisch Yes. It's usually sent when you hit the API to frequently. They tell you to back off for X seconds and if you don't, they hit you with a long backoff period
oh. @sandwich already answers. In that case...hi. waves
 
1:06 PM
@RoryAlsop cc @Yvette Technically, sure. Realistically... (1) you'll never have a perfect system, especially with such a small sample to test against, and (2) it honestly isn't worth the development effort. This is the first time I've seen something like this in a few months of moderating SO and years of running Smokey. It's rare enough to qualify as "meh"
 
@SmokeDetector f
 
I'm not saying that it isn't a serious case, but I am saying that it's not practical to block these automatically
 
sd f
@Undo ok
any way we can see how many posts we've reported on here and our stats? success wise
 
Unclear, although metasmoke probably has what you want somewhere
 
I like the cats btw, very nice thank you
 
1:12 PM
@Undo Could you maybe introduce a reviewer stats page that you could access by metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/reviewer=<reviewerID or name> that would give stats on accuracy and list invalid feedback by a reviewer?
 
We have that, just not public.
@ArtOfCode Any reason user stats in metasmoke shouldn't be public?
 
Good Morning @Undo. I have no complaints or requests to make of you. Just "Good Morning"
3
 
Best thing I've heard all day :)
 
hi Art
 
@Undo that conversation is happening in socvr right now
In short: no, there isnt
 
1:15 PM
You're saying I need to get out of bed and find my machine so I can handle two rooms at once :(
 
All you need to do is add another route to the admin controller that gives us the stats page. Stop verifying admin on it, add a public route not under the admin namespace
Alternatively, I may be able to do it in about an hour
 
it might save you some grief if people get banned and also for the neurotics who fear they will be banned and from the plain curious who will now regularly ask for them
 
I've got some other features I think I'm doing anyway, so I could bundle that
 
thumbs up sign
 
@ArtOfCode I can do it.
 
1:18 PM
Cool
Heh. Just realised my unintentional pun.
 
?
 
> I could bundle that
In a rails app.
 
I thought you literally meant you were going to bundle the functionality you were adding with that
bundling in mvc (asp.net) also
 
I just meant that I could write that feature as well as them others, but it ended up also being a pun
 
ah
I'm sharpening my pathetic js skills atm
for c#
 
1:23 PM
I am designing a new invoice layout
"You took user design in uni didn't you" "But...." "Great, please do it asap"
 
lol
condolences
I did just design part of a webpage, but the better part is all the back end stuff
 
I don't like UX design
Im not good at it
 
me neither
 
I like to dig into math
 
I like writing code and solving how I'm going to do something.
 
1:25 PM
I do a lot of complexity analysis usually
Its very fun to optimize a process and see a noticeable change in time saved instantly
 
nice
I've found myself in a position as full stack developer and it's been really sharpening up my skills. I love it. MVC asp.net
we're using a lot of ajax and my skills there have been rudimentary.
it will be good just to stay in the one platform and get really good at it.
 
1:52 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: Use SED or AWK to move rows to columns by user170974 on unix.stackexchange.com
 
@Undo neat
 
sd k
 
@Undo is getting websockets working something that's likely to happen soon, or shall I work on the back of status pings for now?
 
It's one of those things that'll happen when I get all amped up about doing it
So probably not terribly soon, because it's sadmin stuff.
sd f
 
> sadmin
Okay, so I'll work on status pings for now.
 
2:00 PM
Yeah. Whatever you do there will be easy to transfer over if we ever get websockets working
 
Should be, yeah
 
TTD is in seconds
 
What's the X axis? Presumably hour of the day?
 
Hour of day, same on both graphs
UTC
 
2:16 PM
That's good to know, I live in a UTC+10 zone and was previously considering taking a large quantity of stimulants in case I was missing spam while asleep but it looks like it won't be necessary.
 
hey, I know where you could get some stimulants
 
lol, yeah MS page probably has plenty listed
 
Um. @Undo you might wanna make that scale explicit, the tooltips are assuming it's minutes after midnight
 
yeah, I know the tooltip is 100% borked.
Couldn't figure out how to make Highcharts just show the numbers, which is irritating because it worked fine on the above graph
 
00:00:01 Thursday, Jan 1, 1970
@Undo want a tiny and totally pointless pluralization bug?
Also, pushed to metasmoke
 
2:30 PM
Backoff received of 10 seconds.
 
Yay, another cat
 
@ArtOfCode Sure
your build failed :P
 
> 1 reasons have caught 1 post
if you only have one reason
 
I thought I fixed that a looooong time ago?
 
ack, damnit
 
2:33 PM
[metasmoke][feature-request] Show a vertical line in the spam per hour graph to show the current time, this allows us to easily see what time the graph assumes without having to UTC convert
 
where is metasmoke CI? Travis?
 
we used to do that, then something happened. Can't remember what.
@ArtOfCode Circle
This might be the first case of CI actually catching a bug
 
...does the feedbacks table actually not have a created_at field?
 
it's... weird
 
wat
 
2:35 PM
but... uh... yeah, kinda doesn't.
I still have no idea how that happened
 
that's sort of a little bit very essential to make this work
 
yeah
 
oh wait, it's updated_at I want
 
We could just add it, that'd work
Doesn't exist either
 
so that's bugged anyway
 
2:36 PM
here, lemme just add it. Should be okay for what you're doing.
 
yeah, we kinda need to - how does one add it so that Rails updates it automatically
Cool, I'll keep on with the rest then
 
t.timestamps in a migration, IIRC.
looking
@ArtOfCode Added timestamps, not pushed yet because it broke another thing
(which tests also caught, yay!)
 
Going well today, isn't it
What's the betting I'm about to totally break Smokey?
 
eh, pretty hard to do that.
That autoreverter thing is awesome
 
Unless the script deleted smokey's .git folder, in what case the autoreverter fails
 
2:42 PM
there you go @ArtOfCode, should be able to pull/merge master into your changes
(assuming you want to change the updated/created_at thing)
 
Ack. I'm not familiar enough with Smokey's code outside of findspam and globalvars to get this right.
 
metasmoke.py
 
Yeah, but idk what I'm doing
Fancy writing some Python? :)
 
maaaaybe
Whatdya need to do?
 
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2:47 PM
sd n
 
@Undo MS should be returning both the commit status and a list of feedbacks invalidated since the last ping, when Smokey does a status update.
The idea is to use that list to ping the user to tell them (with various links) that their feedback was invalidated.
 
oh, this means we broke CI too. Ought to fix that before it goes nuts on us
@ArtOfCode Which room?
We don't have data on whether it came from SOCVR or CHQ atm.
 
@Undo Preferably, the one they're privileged in. That's where it gets complicated.
We have chat user IDs in metasmoke, which we can send to Smokey in the list; could it look up which privilege list they appear in?
 
wait, we have chat IDs in metasmoke?
Thought I never wired that up.
 
there's a chat user ID field on the model, anyway
not sure if there's any data there
 
2:49 PM
yeah, pretty sure it's empty
wait, it's there
 
sweet
 
huh, that's nice.
So we could do a reverse-lookup thing, seems like that could get ugly fast w/ possible identical UIDs between chat servers.
 
Pushed to MS; that should return the data at least
@Undo yeah, it's not nice at all
 
one sec, updating Smokey to not freak out with the new JSON format
 
Heh, oh yeah
 
2:53 PM
now, what are the chances that Flake is going to yell at me?
 
MS build passed, too. Excellent.
@Undo flake8? High.
 
hey, it passed!
!!/pull
deploying MS
 
sweeet
 
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So we might just have to default to one room for pinging people
 
2:56 PM
Which would be okay
 
Yeah, but which one? A number of people are only ever in one
 
Does CE give us access to the currently-pingable list?
 
Or do we post to both?
Um.
I think there might be a way.
there also might not
You can definitely get a list of who's currently in the room, which might serve.
If they're not in here, ping SOCVR. If not there, ping Tavern. If not there, default back to here.
 
that'd work
 
3:03 PM
@AshishAhujaツ o/
 
3:23 PM
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3:50 PM
sd why
 
@AshishAhujaツ [:29735492] Body - Position 282-287: serum
 
@SmokeDetector f
 
Spam tracker broke again for me
 
4:03 PM
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@SmokeDetector k
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of answer, blacklisted user: How does internet explorer know what text files I have viewed? by Shannon Rhodes on security.stackexchange.com
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of answer, blacklisted user: Limiting FTP privileges on Windows Server by Shannon Rhodes on security.stackexchange.com
 
4:10 PM
sd k
!!/test earnmore9.com
 
> Would not be caught for title, body, and username.
 
@ArtOfCode Could you blacklist the website earnmore9.com?
 
4:37 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported answer: change the name of returning field with errors in rails by Ali Pourheidar on stackoverflow.com
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[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in answer, bad keyword with email in answer, email in answer: Will my India based Visa debit card work in the USA or do I need a chip based EMV card? by lisa on money.stackexchange.com
 
sd k
 
!!/test technosanatgroup.com
 
> Would not be caught for title, body, and username.
Backoff received of 10 seconds.
 
@ArtOfCode Could you blacklist the website technosanatgroup.com? It has been used to spam twice
 
4:54 PM
!!/errorlogs 100
autopull not working
 
Another bug :(
 
5:12 PM
!!/pull
 
[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 05c73e3 (Undo1: +technosanatgroup.com --autopull) (running on Raspberry Pi)
Restart: API quota is 3428.
 
Autopull didn't work?
 
18 mins ago, by Undo
autopull not working
sd f
 
Is it smart that smokey submits its current running revision to metasmoke, so metasmoke could display it?
 
I question the use of that
 
5:16 PM
@Ferrybig How long was it running?
 
@sandwich Unsure, but wasn't that long, lets hope it was a 1 time only event
 
5:33 PM
!!/test earnmore9.com
 
> Would not be caught for title, body, and username.
 
The "earn money" spammers keep changing domain names.
But they always have 1-2 digits at the end. Hm.
 
Hm indeed
I can't type. Shouldn't be trusted near a keyboard.
 
note to self: Buy earnmore.com and sell it to spammers for lots of money
 
@Undo Search by feedback: true throws an error, metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/…
 
5:36 PM
Will look
 
Maybe add the key sentence "Start working at home with"
 
Yes, we should look at such patterns carefully. Adding these sites quickly gets boring, and they don't use the same site for long.
 
ah, another ambiguous column error, fallout from adding timestamps to feedback
easy to fix
Have a failing test for it....
 
@Andy Someone's already had that idea, it's parked
 
earnmore9.com, MaxWage10.com, CashPay60.com, E-cash10.COM, Buzzmax7.com
 
5:51 PM
So you want /(earnmore|maxwage|cashpay|e\-?cash|buzzmax)\d{0,3}\.com/ as a pattern, really.
 
I'm thinking a little more general, (earn|max|cash|pay)[\w-]{0,5}\d+\.com
Because it will be morecash7, or earnpay12
 
@ArtOfCode curses. foiled again
 
@sandwich fixed
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported question: free skin csgo Csgostrong by Robika Kiss on gaming.stackexchange.com
 
6:02 PM
Or, there was also pocket-cents50.com ... and Today70.com
 
Item number 1 on my "Things that are unnervingly disconcerting" list: Code works the first time, perfectly.
 
I take it CI is not reporting here now...
!!/pull
 
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Restart: API quota is 3029.
 
6:36 PM
Backoff received of 10 seconds.
 
7:10 PM
Backoff received of 10 seconds.
[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of answer: Is there an alternative to HTML? by user4780615 on stackoverflow.com
 
@SmokeDetector n
 
@SmokeDetector n
 
7:40 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in answer: What holds atoms together? by fart on chemistry.stackexchange.com (@PhMgBr)
 
@SmokeDetector k
 
I wonder if there's any way we could tighten link at end of answer. A decent number of fps/NAAs are from that rule: metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/…
 
Let's look at the URL structure of tps to see if the regex can be more specific...
 
Also, metasmoke graphs don't seem to show NAAs...
 
This isn't tp: metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/post/28682 Wait, it is.
I didn't notice a clever misspelling.
So it's my feedback that's wrong in this case.
OTOH the misspelling could be a typo, and the domain owner an unrelated typo-squatter.
 
7:53 PM
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